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Staff PCBT 25 years and county attorney short-term rental memo

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County Administrator

Okay? Thank you. Mr. Miles? Just wanna remind you if you forgot, PCBT is celebrating 25 years in business this month. So they've been running buses now for 25 years, or the county's been running buses in PCPT for 25 years. So that's all I have. That's

Ron OakleyChair

it.

County Administrator

That's it. I mean it's almost four o'clock.

Ron OakleyChair

Oh yeah.

County Administrator

I'll give you plenty of time now.

Ron OakleyChair

Right. Mr. Ghosting?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I have nothing further and thank you for having me here today.

Ron OakleyChair

Well, to say I I appreciate you being here today and appreciate your advice and uh you know, you're welcome to sit in any time as you have apology to. So Thank you. So that's great. Madam Clerk? Oh

Unidentified speakerVoice A

wait a minute. So Well Commissioner Oriana just reminded me of something. So our office did you a memo about the short term rental ordinance. And did we all of you provide a copy of that memo?

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Yes, I read it and it's a lot of legal

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Right. So the short version is that if you repeal your short term rental ordinance The only thing that you can continue to regulate would be licensing and registration type requirements. In other words, you would not be able to prohibit short-term rentals anywhere in the county if you repeal the ordinance. And the state statute basically grandfathers our existing ordinance and doesn't allow us to re-regulate short-term rentals again, except for things like licensing and and registration. So

the risk of you repealing it is we can't really put in a new regulatory scheme in place unless it's limited to things like licensing and registration.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Are there rules that we can put in place to be a licensed um The RBO or whatever.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

There are some health safety type rules you can put in, but you can't put in rules that regulate the duration of the stay, for example.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

What about nuisance like uh complaints of roundiness X amount?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well I think other nuisance we might be able to regulate through other provisions of our code that have nothing to do with Short-term rentals. The your short-term rental ordinance is really regulating the duration of stays for rent.

But if you're going to be discussing this at a workshop, we can go into more details. I wasn't sure if you it sounded like earlier you were requesting a workshop, and if so, we can get into the weeds of this if you want to, but uh

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Uh Mr. Bile said it uh his practice and he can schedule himself.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Okay.

County Administrator

Yeah I'll say I'll talk to the commissioner at the break and I think what we would do is schedule a regular item for just for discussion. That way they can give us a motion direction at it if enough for important meeting. When we're ready to do it, both your office and and our office and planning site.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Okay. But I I think staff's gonna probably have to give you some data on how extensive the short term rental problem is in Pasco, which we don't have. Right. We can give you the legal analysis but we don't have the facts about how big of an issue it is.

County Administrator

And we can we we can get that information along with the amount of Yeah, church development tax we actually collect from short-term rentals that may or may not be permitted in Pasco.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

So it you know it's interesting that uh apparently we may be collecting money. from our short term rental. We are collecting money from something that we outlook. So I think we could easily be challenged in court.

And there's very selective enforcement. So there's just a lot of issues. Because we have hundreds of them. Hundreds.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah. Thousands possible. Yeah, the issue they're the issues are not d they're somewhat related but not directly related in the sense that one's a taxation issue, one's a land use issue. And so I can't really blame the ones that are do operating illegally from a land use perspective for not wanting to violate the tax law because then they'd be violating two different laws. So it's probably helpful that they're at least complying with one of the laws.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

How you get to pick and choose which law you get to follow. So

Unidentified speakerVoice A

and I believe the tax collect I believe about my pay rate. I believe the tax collector does the enforcement of that tax, correct? So it's not our code enforcement department,

County Administrator

which is and to a certain extent the actual websites do some compliance requirements on the tax piece.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Okay. I d so we just need to talk about it.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So it sounds like this will be a feature agenda item. Is that okay with you?

Ron OakleyChair

We need it addressed for where you get more and more questions.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

July or August. Mr. Chairman Mariano, that's in DC. Correct. Correct. Okay.