Commissioner updates and mobile home registration
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Yeah. Great. Thank you. But at this time, uh we move on to our miscellaneous business and Commissioner Starkey, you have
Yeah, I have um Derek here who's gonna uh Derek and I have been working on a little project and I have some things here that I will talk about next time, which one includes the Ombudsman, um but I'll skip that for next time. Um you might have seen in the paper with T Barda that we have been um having presentations by some very interesting folks, including uh those with with Hyperloop, uh the Fix Guide uh tramways, the air taxis, and then uh Which is actually about to get started
in Orlando. There'll there'll be a a taxi that will be um driverless, pilotless, called uh with a company called Lilium. um in Orlando and they plan to fly here to Tampa, so we're excited about that. Um A tap bait water. Interesting meeting coming up where we are discussing whether we're keeping our executive director Matt Jordan or not. Um I wanna thank everyone who participated in the Holiday Lakes uh cleanup. My staff and I we were out there and It's awesome
when you see those truck those car car f cars full of uh junk and mattresses on their roof and And all that stuff being brought down to be be taken out. I don't have the number with me, um, but I know we had a very successful cleanup. I also was uh out there yesterday and saw the hockey rink um built in the Holiday Rec Center. So I I don't know if that's open yet and Keith's gone, but it it looked awesome. Um And so now I want to uh bring up Derek who has done a
little bit of research on something that I I didn't have time to look at last year, but I wanna m have it as part of one of the things we fixed for this year. And uh if you remember when we had a discussion about a development that was coming in in Land O' Lakes uh that wrapped around this trailer park called Bambi Court, I think it's called. I went and drove the area to see what shape of the roads were in. And when I drove through Bambi Court uh with all the trailers and frankly I think code needs to go through there. Um
Uh I noticed the stickers on the windows, the decals were from years ago. And uh And so we started doing some research and while the tax collector collects the money. Um There is apparently maybe uh no enforcement going on. And so Derek's done a little research and Derek can you talk about the mobile home registration and registration fees that we're supposed to be collecting?
Good afternoon. Um so Commissioner Starkey had me uh you
know
look into the mobile home decals. There's two different decals in the state. There's a real property decal, which um you only get once if you own the land and own the mobile home. You get the sticker one time, then you're good until uh unless you move. Um the second, which is, you know, a little more um w the mobile home decals is if you own the mobile home but not the land. Um you're supposed to renew every s every year and it expires December thirty first. Um I reached out to the tax collector. They do send out renewal notices. Um after January tenth the uh then they a fee is charged
for being late. However um you don't renew that there is no enforcement action. Um N if you decide you do want to be caught up, um you do have to pay the back back pay and the fees. However, um there's no you know, they don't there's no enforcement action. Co enforcement doesn't deal with that. Um and I think I would believe it would be a a sheriff issue. Um but since you know they're not driving on the road, there's they're not actively looking at these renewals. Um and last year I got the numbers. There's about 17,169
registrations. So out of that was about 9,400 addresses. Um each if you have a double wide you need two stickers. So um that's just the numbers. And this year it's about the same, 17,100 to date. So there's about sixty nine off from this year to last year, but um There's no there's no record of, you know, who actually has a mobile home or not.
So um I think this is something we need to look at. I I think there's a lot more lot of mobile homes in the state that aren't paying their their fair share of you know, since they don't pay a property tax, this is kinda what covers it. And um so we need to uh and I hope Sally. Um I don't know where we get more employees, but um We we We gotta put this back on the radar and uh do an assessment. I did talk to Tim Coet last night. I was at a meeting where he
was and he said that um he thought he could help us um get some more information um on the uh mobile homes and work with us to help um get this program back going and get that money back into the county because I think we're leaving tens and tens of You know, maybe hundreds I don't know, lots of money that sh should have been collected.
Can I Commissioner Starkey question or you or Derek can ever answer this? If I'm not correct, that's the almost identical to an auto tag. Yeah. So whether that that money would be collected by the tax collectors continue to be tax collector's office. Don't uh doesn't don't some of those fees actually go to the state? A portion of those fees don't part of doesn't a portion of auto tags actu
Yes.
So I'm trying I guess you need to what I'm just saying is maybe you need to break it down and see actually how much money would actually come into the county and look at what the cost is of enforcement and see what your ROI is because Let's say there's if there's a thous I don't know what the number is, but if there's a thousand and this portion goes to the state, this portion goes to the tax collector. How much money, you know what I mean? How much money is that? What's that dollar amount and what would it cost, you know, and what's your ROI if you did some type of you
hired another FTE or
So there's a there's a difference between the real property decal and the mobile home decal. And the real property decal is shared with the property appraiser's office, the county, and the um tax collector, right? Yeah. Um
that's more easy.
I don't know if we have it broken out yet for the mobile home decal.
Was that more your target than your
real
property? Okay, gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha makes more sense.
Because you're getting some property tax. Still so they are helping to contribute to their costs, but if it's a uh You know.
Did I did I misunderstand what Derek said though? But the real property is only paid once. Yeah.
Right. That's the same thing.
And it's not much. That's on that one. Yeah, but that's once when they put it on. It's likely that that's being collected because it's once when they put it on.
It's the other one that we're not collecting.
Yeah. Yeah. So it's the other one that we're not collecting. I
think that happens in a lot of areas.
Yeah, we just have to you know. keep our eyes on it and get those people to do what they're supposed to do. I think it's important to know what the right number is also in the county and And that's a way of knowing How many of those we have out there as well? Uh I had another question for Keith, but he's not here. Uh I just keep waiting for the restroom and Starkey Park. I've started working on that in my first year when I got elected eight years ago. Uh
it's a restroom that's supposed to be built at the intersection of the Suncoast Trail and the Starkey Trail. And we got a grant. Um Finally, but I haven't heard anything since that. Thank you. Merry Christmas to everybody. Okay.
Commissioner Fitzpatrick.
Oh. Yeah.
Well a lot's happened in the past couple weeks. And um first I would like to address there's a vacancy in the V O P H and I need to um I would like to appoint Rob Lin Rod Lincoln.
And that that is that is the commissioner my understanding is that's the commissioner's appointment, so really it it's gotta be noted for the record that she's Wait. My recollection is we don't have the board do we have the board confirm that appointment?
Right. Okay. That's an appointment on that one. Yeah.
And Merry Christmas and I will discuss more in depth the next meeting. Everything going on.
See, that's it. All right. Thank you. Mr. Mariano.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Congratulations. Congratulations to Commissioner Starkey as well. Just want to thank staff that are doing a great job out of Gulf Highlands. There were two pipes in each place. They did a great job doing those. And uh the staff at the Seapines for Stormwater. It did a good job cleaning out some trenches this year and uh we've got development coming in that looks like it's gonna do a lot of good work. to solve the uh drainage areas up there. So very excited about that. Uh Commissioner Starkey you like you had a great success down at Holiday Lake. Country called the states,
that cleanup went really well as well. As a matter of fact, uh shining little stars we ha one little old lady that uh Didn't have a scooter and shoes had been broken into and we actually have uh having a um Uh Steve Pitts kinda like helped spur it. But uh Sharon and Sully Sullivan and Tom from Top Mobility donated a scooter for this lady so now she's got a little bit of mobility that she can actually get around the neighborhood now. Nice. So we're really excited about that. And I will be with you guys next time. I uh Uh
with COVID, I I have very little symptoms. I'm feeling very good. Uh drinking a lot of water and some vitamin C D in zinc. And I hope to work with uh Dr. Levine and and Mike Napier on trying to help our citizens get a little more protection as well. So Merry Christmas, everybody. Happy New Year.
Mr. Chairman, before Commissioner Mariano goes away, I understand you have an appointment for VOPH as well. Mr. Maggart needs to be reappointed. Dale Maggart.
Uh sorry about that, but yes, thank you. So I'll I'll appoint uh Dale Mergett to the vote as well.
All right. Good. Recycle. Uh Mr. Bowers.
I have a whole two and a half days of stuff, but we'll say that. Come on, we'll
just uh give us a short version. Yes, thank you. The
short version is uh our budget team uh we won the GWA Distinguished Budget Presentation Board again. It's now four years we're gonna uh
good on that.
My mic's not on. Thank you.
Do you want to repeat that for the record? Sure,
for the record. Uh Our budget team won for the fourth year in a row the GFOA Distinguished Budget Award. Um so Four r years running on that. That's a that's a lot of hard work on that team, not just putting the budget together, but the book and everything else and so and you should have gotten a link in the last week to ten days with the actual online budget book. That is the budget book now. So
Okay.
Anything else?
No sir. We'll send the list to r to you, see you to see everything else, all the other good things that are going on.
Okay.
Mr.
Svanstone? Uh I don't have anything. Um Happy Holidays. Okay. Um We'll see you in
the new year. Oh yeah. If I don't see you before, I'll see you next year. That's right. Uh Uh Madam Clerk.
I do have uh one thing just to update and come full circle on. I mentioned um Operation Greenlight was taking place in November. It did, it took place on the eighteenth, nineteenth and twentieth with extended hours and um I thought that it was very successful. This was the um uh an event to uh allow drivers uh drivers that have suspended driver's license, maybe they shouldn't be drivers. What they want to be drivers again, they have suspended drivers licenses or individuals that would like to um to enter
into payment plans and have fees waived up to 25% in of the collection cost to allow them to get back on the road. So we had 265 cases that were um that were part of this event. O of that, um a hundred and forty five paid in full. 120 cases entered into a payment plan and there were almost eighty cases that were pulled from collections to for this part of this event. So we find that it was pretty um pretty successful. There were 185 drivers
licenses that were eligible for reinstatement. They just have to go to the tax collector's office and and get that done. So very successful event. Um we'll hold another one in the spring and I'll have more details on that. Thank you.