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PDE257738 Evans County Line AD MPUD

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Unidentified speakerVoice A

um well P 83. Approved publication Tampa Bay Times July 2nd, 2025, and supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. And we do have one person signed up.

Planning and Development staff

Good afternoon, William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Before I get started on this presentation, a couple items to submit to the clerk's office. Ex parte communications as well as Proof of the neighborhood meeting with its summary and sign-in sheet for this project, as well as any emails from citizens that I received throughout the duration of the two years.

MarianoVice Chair

Move

StarkeyChair

received and five. Second. All in favor? Aye.

Planning and Development staff

This is PDE twenty-five seventy-seven thirty-eight, a zoning amendment, Evans County Line AD M PD.

the location map of the subject site. within the north market area at the intersection of Blanton Road in Lake Iola in northeast Pasco County.

The current Subject site is seeking rezoning from AC Agricultural District to MPD master plan unit development to allow for the maximum development. Of 300 multi-family dwelling units to be platted townhomes or condos. A hundred thousand square feet of support commercial. And one point five square feet or one point five million square feet of light industrial on approximately eighty acres. This is roughly point three miles from the I-75 interchange. A location map aerial of the subject site,

its existing zoning reflecting agricultural It's future land use reflecting employment center. Here is an overall context map to show the subject site's location and relative to the future land use designations that surround the subject site at its interchange of uh of Bland Road and I seventy five. To the south there are several pockets of residential benign indicated there by the blue color. the pink

color which is also on the subject side is Employment Center, and to the south side of Blanton Road, you have the old mixed use flu. uh which is more intense than the current employment center flu on the subject site.

Here's the master plan. indicating the location of the warehouse, distribution, industrial office, as well as some of the support commercial. It also indicates the required Uh scenic corridor buffer along Lake Iowa Road shown in green. There's one variation request with this uh with proposal from 9016 eleven to not provide an interconnect. to the east or to the north. To the east there's a category one wetland and non developable

acreage, and to the north there exist uh existing single family homes that are more rural in nature and uh any further connection would provide a disturbance to them.

So There were some changes when this project initially went to Planning Commission when PDE, the applicant, and the citizens. uh reached some agreements that everybody was happy with. Of course the board heard the companion EDA this morning. The M PD conditions will be reflected to update the 30 year time period now before multifamily entitlements can be sought by this development. I know the slide says twenty years. The conditions will be updated to

be consistent with the economic development agreement. The rural cross section being adopted for Lake Iola Road as well as the additional right away required for that cross section is now part of this M Pud. It wasn't originally in February, throughout our subsequent agreements before we received unanimous uh approval from the Planning Commission, we incorporated this as well. Additional buffering to be in compliance with the northeast northeast rural were added both to the corridors well as to the buildings. And the landscaping

to the north.

The the MPD owner also um offered to work in Good faith with any Employment Center master plan that's com contemplated in this area, originally the comprehensive plan uh contemplated an employment center master plan for this entire interchange. And also the applicant agreed to work with the county in F DOT about any improvements to the I-75 County Road 41 interchange. Oh. Uh Gina, do you mind pulling up my revised PowerPoint please? the one I emailed

you. I just want to go over the real cross section typical Um I know that there were some questions. about that cross section and what the 135 feet entails in terms of the typical section.

This is the rural cross-section adopted in LDC 604, which is the Northeast Rural Section of the Land Development Code. You can see here that on this 135 feet Ample amount of room is given to landscaping and buffering. And uh On the on the one side of the right-of-way typical section there's the meandered five foot sidewalk. On the opposite side, there is the option for an eight-foot meandering multi-use path. And or uh at the time when this

was adopted in two thousand and four, an equestrian trail, uh depending on how the environment was being built out within Northeast Rural at the time. So just to shed some light on that typical section there. Multi use path. With the two thousand and four option of an equ uh of an equestrian trail there that's uh indicated if you're looking at it from left to right on the right side of the road.

This comes in the

right-of-way.

Oakley

Well I just want to make sure because we made a change earlier in consent item dealing with this property. We changed from the 20 year

Run out of for the residential and we move that from twenty to thirty years.

Planning and Development staff

Yes, sir, and that that will be reflected in the MPU conditions. Okay.

StarkeyChair

Um I'm gonna ask Commissioner Oakley. How much more presentation do you have?

Planning and Development staff

I'm okay I'm re I'm available for questions now.

StarkeyChair

This kinda goes to Commissioner Oakley, um, 'cause it's his neighborhood and I know um from the cyclists that I know, um that Blanton is a much used road by the cycling community that comes from around central Pasco to ride there. The

Oakley

what now?

StarkeyChair

Blanton. Isn't this on Blanton?

Oakley

Well this is Lake Iola but it is an extension of

StarkeyChair

Land's part of the route that most cyclists take when we did the route studies I don't Stantec

Oakley

or whoever

StarkeyChair

did the study.

Oakley

You really don't see that many um on this area, but you see a lot more down into Blanton going out Trilby Road. So

StarkeyChair

um Is the would the community prefer the cyclist to be off the road and on a bike trail? Then on the road.

Oakley

Well It's it's safer for 'em to all be on a southern trail rather than a rope. So that's been some of the issues we've had. Well

StarkeyChair

we're we're we're having that um that R V park is having to build Um bike trails and That's on Lake Iowa, right? But it's south of

Oakley

the

StarkeyChair

So it's not near here?

Oakley

is. Well there's one there's one on Lake Island that when it comes to the right-of-way.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, the one that was your sister's property.

Oakley

Yes, that's in my district. So it there's there's a trail coming by the R V Park, you know, the Moody Lake. As we come out, there's a trail provided there.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, and how wide is that one? That's what kind of what I'm getting at.

Oakley

I think that's eight foot if I'm not mistaken. Jack, do you think that's a good thing?

StarkeyChair

I just think they should be consistent and I'm a little concerned that if we go from paved to dirt, It's gonna be a problem. What 'cause this says Uh either. a multi use path or an equestrian The equestrum can go just right beside it. This

Unidentified speakerVoice B

is your typical section. This is not But

StarkeyChair

he said something about uh a paved trail or a dirt trail.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Equestrian path optional is your from t two thousand and four is your typical section, not necessarily what Mr. Two is going to be proposing.

Joel

Go ahead and fill me in. Joel to Palm Harbor, Florida, land use consultant for the property owner. The property owner will build whichever of those options the county asks us to build. So if you want the equestrian trail, that's what will be constructed. If you want the multi-use path, we frankly think the multi-use path makes the most sense. that we want it to be a business park. With hopefully some support commercial and we're happy to put that bike lane

either in that or in the roadway, you and your engineering department just tell us which road section because as Mr. Steinsnyder said it's your it's your requirement and we're going to submit the plans and do it the way you want it constructed.

StarkeyChair

Well I guess what I would ask is if it would be consistent with what we had the development.

Joel

It would make sense. They're both on Lake Iowa Road. They're what a half mile, three quarters of a mile apart. So whichever you decide, you probably should require

StarkeyChair

comes the attorney that represents

Joel

it.

Okay. And for the record, so

Oakley

on the east side of the road, so that sound makes sense to be a Walkable trail. Yeah. Uh the equestrian trail probably should be on the other side, which they would not have anything to do with.

StarkeyChair

Well I don't know where they cross or whatever, but

Oakley

of Lake Oliver.

Joel

And and while I'm here so I don't have to get back up, hopefully uh I'll agree for the record the applicant agrees to the extension of the residential restriction from twenty to thirty years in the MPUD as we agreed in the development agreement this morning.

Oakley

Yes.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Um Well that's that's my only issue. Uh this is a pub any other questions? This is a public hearing. Has anyone signed up to speak on this item?

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Hi, my name's Scott Bland. My wife Debbie and I have lived at [address removed] for the last 26 years. Um I have been sworn in. Thank you. So the idea that there's not a lot of bikes still running up uh Spring Lake Highway in Lake Iola, I I'm out there all the time. I see a lot of bicycles.

StarkeyChair

Trying to get 'em off the road.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Well, it there's like a thousand feet there in front of that eighty acres. If you think those bicycles are gonna run off onto this little multi use thing and then run back onto the highway, that seems like a I don't I don't I wouldn't do that if I were if I were one of those people riding that bicycle. Um that's kind of crazy. Um There's very, very few uh horses, or as they like to say, equestrians. running up and down that highway either. There's a couple every once in a great while,

but it's mostly bicycles. Up and down there. Which runs into the whole traffic idea, but I did want to go to go to my my written notes here. Uh this is my third time attending one of these meetings on this subject. and my second time speaking. So I'm still in opposition to dropping down this immense industrial area in this rural this rural community. Uh so all the reasons I had stated the last meeting and more, I'd I would like to address a couple of

the statements I heard during the second meeting. It was stated that they were going to have a small septic system running on the property. And it was also stated that a properly run sewage treatment plant doesn't stink. Well a quick drive down seventy five past Wesley Chapel will show you that either that plant is not being run correctly Or indeed feces does stink. Uh I'm gonna go with the second one on that. I also listened to a traffic engineer speak about how traffic wasn't an issue and

how should it somehow become an issue. Uh some other government entity would fix it for everyone. Now having been an engineer myself for more than forty years, I can tell you that the problems often lie in the details, or in this case, Handy omissions. Somehow it was omitted that the traffic on this road continues to increase as the population of Brooksville's immense developments finds this an easy shortcut to Tampa and back home. It was also admitted that the

huge RV part that has been mentioned today is under construction just south and that too will increase traffic. Add in the additional traffic that will come from the mega development just west of Dade City. All of these projects are currently underway. This project will add on the order of if we take the number of number of uh uh residential units and all of the uh industrial and everything. Call it something like a thousand cars

and hundreds of tractor trailers per day. This road and its intersection and the bicycles on there, you're not going to have some bicycle train lane going all the way up Spring Lake Highway and Lake Blanton. It's just not going to happen. I can guarantee the developers and the traffic engineer won't be the ones waiting to be struck from behind on I-75 as they sit at the jammed intersection. I ask again for the commissioners to deny the rezoning.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Thank you very much.

Um do we have anyone else who wishes to sign?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

No, that's the only one signed up and no one online. Anyone in the audience?

StarkeyChair

Yeah, and well, is there anyone else here?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Okay.

Seeing no one close the public hearing.

StarkeyChair

Yep, we will close the public hearing and it's back to the commissioners. Um you know when I look at the map here. The R V park is on the right side of Lake Iola. I guess the easy side. We we made 'em put A bike trail in front of that. Um and this is still on the east side as I go up Lake Iola. So it I think it would benefit uh somebody um for these to we for these to connect. And also

I recall Spring Lake Highway Horn Hernando County. Got state. safety money to widen their road for the cyclists because they encouraged the cyclists to come and they they widen that road so it would be safer for 'em. So, yeah. There are cyclists in this area and I know we won't get all of them off the road. But it'd be nice if we can get some off the road, especially kids, as this gets More developed. Commissioner Oakley.

Oakley

So with the new new R V park coming and and that trail actually being on the east side of Lake Ola Road, it only makes sense that it would cross Bellamy Lake Iola Road going toward the Evans property up there so that would be your trail that you could put in and not necessarily a equestrian trail because there's not many horses right there. But there are bicycles. There's room for both. Going both of course.

StarkeyChair

But it just needs to be whatever width we said it would be at Spring down down south. Needs to be at least as wide as that, if not wider. That's all. Okay, um that's my own my issue. Uh anyone else have any

Oakley

I wanted to um I'm very much in favor of this project. It's much better than what it was three years ago and it's come a long way to be a more uh fitting the area that we're talking about. So with the changes and all of the twenty to the thirty years, I'd make a motion to approve.

MarianoVice Chair

Madam Clerk, I'll segue with just what discussion. Sure. I I I do think we should address the the bike trail. If the other development to the south has it, we should mirror what that has as well. Yeah. So let's go to the motion maker.

Oakley

Yeah, we we'll make sure that tr that trail goes forth and it'll it'll still be you know it's by the RV park and we talked a lot about that, that trail's on the east side of the road, which is on the right hand side, when you go and cross uh forty one. to the Evans up by the Evans property and be on their their side of the property for the trail. And so it fits in.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, and you may get um some kind of user at the R V park, say that golf cart or whatever that wants to come up to some amenity that they may put in here. So in this way they're off the road. All right. Yeah.

Oakley

That's good.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Um and just to the gentleman who spoke, remember we're dealing with a a a lawsuit and a settlement, and so we have rules that we have to follow. Um and we just can't come up here and say no, that we have to follow the law. So with that, I'll call the quest I'll uh take the vote. I'll All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. Okay.

All right, we are back to We finish all our R's in the morning?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Oh yeah. No? You need you have a budget presentation on Twitter.

StarkeyChair

Budget presentation. You're welcome to stay.

Yeah.

Um just for my fellow Commissioner's heads up, um Commissioner Yeager has to leave at four. We should be fine. I have to leave at five. So just gonna try and you have

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

to leave at three.

StarkeyChair

Who?

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

We have to leave at three.

StarkeyChair

Oh Well Mariano you could be running the meeting all by yourself at five.

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

Commissioner Mariano. Three.