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C20 Land O' Lakes detention center design agreement

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The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, May 19, 2020

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Jack Mariano

I mo uh aye, motion passes five zero. Thank you. Um C twenty. Um

Andrew Baxter

Good morning, Commissioners. Um C twenty is for the design of the Land O' Lakes Detention Center. We received two signed original agreements from HOK that contained editing marks on pages one, twenty, and twenty-seven. Facilities removed those editing editing marks uh to provide clean pages. No other changes were made. Um clean signed agreement has been sent to Board Records. Yeah. And it's presented here with a recommendation for approval.

Kathryn Starkey

Move to approve C twenty with items one twenty and twenty seven corrected. Commissioner Starkey.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Second, Commissioner Mariano with more discussion first.

Jack Mariano

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Starkey, second by Commissioner Marion with discussion. Commissioner Marion, go ahead, sir.

Jack Mariano

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um I'm I'm I was looking at the details of the agreement and it's going to be about four years of design work. Uh the companies from Missouri Uh are we all comfortable with how long it's gonna take? Because I haven't seen anything as I knew we had so a lot of local companies I thought were gonna be bidding on it, but Um I'm just wondering why there was only a a few companies or why we ended up with one from Missouri.

Jack Mariano

Mr. Baxter or Mr. Brightonbach, can you answer?

Andrew Baxter

Yeah, I'd be happy to answer. So we we put together a uh a com uh committee that involved uh Eric Breitenbach, myself, uh T J Pasche, our chief project manager. um a captain and a lieutenant from the sheriff's office to review all of the applications. Ultimately it was decided that HOK was the was the most qualified design firm. They are a leading design firm internationally and also the

number one design firm when it comes to detention design um in the nation. And we were uh we were very impressed with their with their scope and their understanding of of what was necessary to build this jail. And the four-year time commitment is truly uh because of the the process that we're going through with the construction manager at risk, the design firm is on on standby throughout not only the design phase, but also the construction administration

phase of this process to ensure that everything is built exactly to design.

Jack Mariano

Mr. Mariano?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah

if

everyone else is good with it, let's go.

Kathryn Starkey

I just wish it didn't take four years. That's a long time.

Ron Oakley

Question Chairman Mariano.

Jack Mariano

Go ahead and Commissioner Oakley.

Ron Oakley

Yeah, I uh why does it take four years? 'Cause, you know, that's a long time just in design. And and we're running behind the eight ball trying to You know, have room for Um detain it.

Andrew Baxter

So let me rephrase the the the initial design period is estimated to take one year. The construction administration, which is also related to the design work, when the contractor actually takes over as the lead in the project, then the design firm takes a secondary role. Um that will take the construction of the facility will take approximately three years total. Um, but the design portion is about a year to a year and a half.

Ron Oakley

Okay, I understand. That's that's a step process and I understand that. That's good.

Andrew Baxter

This is the the overall pro the overall project is four years. Yeah,

Jack Mariano

sure.

Mr.

Jack Mariano

Chairman Mariano.

Jack Mariano

Yes, go ahead.

Jack Mariano

Um Jack Mariano. I I hope that we're gonna be involved through this process as well. I mean we talked about mental health facilities located in the courthouse out in the same area. So I hope we're gonna be involved this whole process, what's gonna go out there together. Because I haven't seen much of it and I'm not sure. I I feel like we should have more involvement.

Andrew Baxter

We can certainly ensure that you're involved in our stakeholder briefings and and make sure that you're involved in the visioning sessions. Absolutely, sir. And I mean that as a commission, not just myself.

Okay.

Jack Mariano

Oh with that, so um with Commissioner Mariano's um suggestion and I would I would um

Go ahead and direct um County Administrator if you would work with um Andrew and and Eric to maybe do a presentation in a future board meeting on a you know uh following up with Commissioner Marion's request.

County Administrator

Yeah, so we can't

Jack Mariano

sufficient. Stop. Yes sir. All right, thank you all so much. I have a motion by Commissioner Starkey, a second by Commissioner Mariano. Um Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

Kathryn Starkey

District One, Commissioner Oakley.

Jack Mariano

Aye.

Kathryn Starkey

District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Weight. District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District two, Chairman More.