Transportation engineering capital

1:31:45Alright, so now we're gonna take you down a journey of roads. Well, no one left. Alright.

1:31:58All right, so let's talk our transportation engineering capital. And now you'll remember that about two hours ago I pointed you to all of the handouts that are in your packet. The handouts in your packet are all the details behind the next handful of slides that we're gonna look at. Now it's important to note that we're not just talking about the projects that are under the county's purview, but we're also gonna be talking about projects that the developers and F Dot are also performing in the county. And so we

1:32:28wanted to break out here Um Lane if you look at lane miles. being built by the county and lane miles being built by the developers, you'll see that we're sharing some of the burden of the growth that's needed in infrastructure related to how our county and our population is growing.

1:32:48So let me just talk to that just for a second. So a few years ago we used the spray jack technology, which by the way as far as for Brantford and then Jason and the team, I think it's a technology that at point zero five percent of cost, it's a thirty percent more efficient bond rating. We should be doing every road that way to make 'em last longer so we can even stretch out these roads performance better. But I I'll say on Hudson Avenue there's three projects along this roadway where we did this technology and they did this thing in like

1:33:18a week all the way through, smooth as can be. You drive down that road Just as smooth as can be. But these new three development projects that have come in If you're if you were closing your eyes or driving at night like Mike Carbello went through the other night, you can feel the difference of the road. So I had a row that didn't have to be touched. it didn't change what what we had in place. Had they just put their turn lanes in around our road, we'd have been much better off. Now I got a road that's inferior, that's bumpy, And I don't know how long how much longer it's

1:33:48gonna last. But it's something that We need to make sure as we're working with developers and I've I've talked with staff about this, uh, but we need to make sure that these roads that are have been redone. that our oper trust stands a hundred percent and go back and go check 'em all out. It's there's just no way we should have uh our taxpayer paid for roads now brought inferior 'cause the development come in and just Brought some parking lot. parking lot guy to come in and d and do a paving. So I think those three are done. I talked about Bellamy before. If you drive up there it's the same

1:34:18type of thing. Though a little different 'cause that's an older road but you can see the road is not the way it should be. So I think it's something that We need a deal with that as we get these developments too not only to what they're doing to make sure they're building the road the way it should be, but to inspect everything at the front if they're touching it. And if they don't need to touch it in a superior like Hudson Avenue, then they should be leaving it alone.

1:34:40So yeah, and and I appreciate the conversation. I've spoken with with assistant administrators, uh Brantford, as well as um David Allen on this in terms of our developer partners and and making sure that when they they touch our existing infrastructure, that one they minimally touch it, two if they do touch it, it it does need to be done in accordance with our specifications, not necessarily theirs, but the same specifications that we would. use on a on a road capital project and then thirdly that it's inspected and held to that standard. So we are those

1:35:10those pieces are coming into into play. Um and uh yeah I think I I think we missed a few things. But uh fortunately on some of them uh we are within within a certain window where we can continue to hold them accountable and um we we will we will do that zealously. Thank you.

1:35:27Ms. Rockefeller. On that same issue, uh I'm known in the past people talking about some of the roads that our developers are making the building aren't up to to speed to what they should be. Their their quality is a little bit less, whatever, so we'll have failures in the road. So I think it's very good that we keep an eye on it and watch it and make sure they uh improve it to the best ability they can to uh make it a better road. So That's very important to keep those roads going. Very expensive. And

1:35:56I'd like to show I'm glad I'm glad you brought that up 'cause actually on the on the east side too, I think on Saint Joe Road. You can drive in and developers did one section of roadway in front of their place, then there's a gap where the road goes lousy, and then it goes back to new again. We need to make sure that when we're looking at these things to what's being done, that if those sections are like that, it needs to be seamless all the way through. Because why we got we're gonna come back in the middle sometime and we're gonna fix that road maybe in four or five years, and now we're gonna go tear it all up. We gotta be working smarter, make them work smarter

1:36:27with us.

1:36:29Uh I've spoke uh to others about uh with staff about possibly a couple of roundabouts out in the Saint Joe area. That we'll slow people down, slow traffic down and and move through. We won't have accidents like we've had in the most recent past that people get killed 'cause they run stop signs and things of that nature, but it'll actually benefit that Saint Joe area and and the roads. But yeah, I agree. We we need to make sure the road stays the same all the way through.

1:36:59So

1:37:05All right, so when we talk about our very complex road program, we also wanted to make sure that um the board and the public understood the prioritization process that happens behind the scenes that helps dictate what makes it into that five-year funding program. So when we look at capacity programs, those um projects are prioritized by traffic volume. roadway capacity, and congestion on arterial and collector roads. When we look at the sidewalks and trails bit of the program, those projects are prioritized

1:37:36to close sidewalk gaps and improve pedestrian connectivity, particularly focusing on neighborhoods and schools. With intersection improvement projects, the team prioritizes those based off congestion relief and to improve safety, including traffic signals and additional turnlanes.

1:37:56I just want to say some of the projects going on out there, like that Zimmerman road we talked about, is coming along with the design. But they just did a road called Johnson Road. You guys might remember it was on the list for a long time. One of the worst roads that connected US nineteen over to Zimmerman. And we couldn't do it right away because we had citizens worry about if you don't have the sidewalk done before the road's done People are gonna speed up and cause more danger. Well the sidewalks are in, the roads getting done, and I'm telling you what a difference is gonna make for that whole area. I mean it's just one of the great projects of

1:38:26making that connectability improving the internal infrastructure. So they're doing a great job.

1:38:32Mr. Chairman Mariano. Um just to add to that a little bit the new way we pave roads now in in the county. We did about what, two years ago or three. But it's been one of the best programs and the citizens realize how much important that is that we don't put neighbor against neighbor on trying to pave roads the way we used to do it. But we do it You know, on a recommended on the list. and work through it and a lot of roads are being paved

1:39:02and uh really improving our neighborhoods and the community. But I've also s said before that wherever we can build a vision road that's not there now, we need to b make sure we make that connection because as things get developed, you need the infrastructure. Uh Mike Galvin actually has come forward to with the Evans Group and uh V O P H area and they're going to they've already design are designing Um

1:39:33Pencart Road and also Prospect Road. And certain areas are gonna be closed pretty soon based on the fact that they're gonna start working on those roads and making them four lane. prior to all the development coming in and selling the houses and things. So that's a that's a very needed important part of developing renters, make sure we have the road infrastructure in place before we put all these houses in so people can move in and out around the round their neighborhoods. So all over the

1:40:03county it should be done like that.

1:40:05Well I I want to say I I appreciate when this board I mean I voted against the project up and up and on Denton Avenue when you know we got I think fifteen hundred homes coming in and I don't have the infrastructure in place that we could put the fees toward that. But literally there's a vision road that's in between that on Hicks Road that would connect Denton Avenue down south to the school at Kitten down getting to Kitten Trail, which is a very important part of the Road. Um, there's an industrial park going in that area. So trying to make that work is something that's that's critical. So um as we look

1:40:35at what we do for our final budget with this MSTU, if there's one thing that we look to change, it might be to supplement that a little bit more because right now We don't know what the budget's gonna be for next year, but we knew we do know that our citizens appreciate the roads and the connectability. And if it's one more good year we've got as far as putting money into this to get these roads done, right now the the property tax thing is pulling like sixty four percent. But I think if people see that we're doing

1:41:06the right stuff it maybe start swaying things the other way when they can see it.

1:41:09Well you gotta don't forget, you know, you got the best citizens of the world in Pasco County. That's

1:41:14right.

1:41:15They've actually put costs on themselves in the past for projects that needed to be brought up to speed and were behind in maintenance and other things that that they voted for the referendum that that came out, I think it was five different items and And they our citizens voted for that. They wanted that. I mean they they put that expense on themselves but they're willing to take that 'cause they want it to be better.

1:41:39Yeah, and those go buns, I I know myself I didn't say a word to anybody any time. I just let 'em vote what they thought. Uh didn't push it down, didn't do anything for that, and just let them make the decision. They voted they wanted better They wanted a jail to keep people in jail. They wanted fire stations EMS to get themselves serviced to be taken care of so they weren't having excessive wait times. Um they wanted parks and lot libraries to be up to standard from when we were fiscally constrained 'cause we were so tight always cut and cut and cut and that we couldn't fund them and then when they fall in disrepair

1:42:10they voted to go get themselves up. So it's it's definitely something I think that We're different, but I think uh we should also be taking a look at what do us citizens want. And I again When you look at the paving assessment program started thirty some odd years ago, it was out of desperation 'cause they didn't want the taxes to go up. Well, by doing that put us in a bad spot and like you say, neighbor to neighbor and the effici the inefficiency of doing it that way, with the whole process and the extra expense, this is a much better

1:42:40way to go. And I think now's the time to at least put one more push forward to try to say show the people about this is why what we're doing is important and and doing it well. Yeah.

1:42:51Sure.

1:42:54All right, so what does this complex capital program look like in terms of dollars? So you'll see here we've got five years broken out by different categories, so capacity, major maintenance, multimodal, or pedestrian, uh safety intersections, signals, and then street lights. And again, you all have printouts of all of the very I'm gonna say this wrong, nitty gritty details. I may have gotten it right, I don't know. Um so we're just gonna talk kind of high level. Now this is a lot of numbers. So

1:43:25I'm just gonna pivot us to something that's um more easily understood, especially from yours truly. A picture. All right, so in your packets, you guys have big eleven by seventeen of this of what these slides are, but let's walk through first the legend and what you're looking at. So this first um visual is the road capacity projects occurring through the county. Now I wanna make one distinction. It's not every project that's currently under construction, but these are the projects

1:43:55that will have some funding. either additional or um for the first time funded in the five year CIP. Now let's walk through the legend. So if Where you're seeing the thinner lines, this is where the developers or F DOT are overseeing these projects. The thicker lines are the projects under the county's purview. Now if you see a line that's blue, this means that this project is getting funding for the first time in our CIP.

1:44:25Amy, if I could just make a suggestion, I understand what you got set there. It might be better in the future though to kind of separate a little bit differently with different colors. Just to kinda go. I mean I I see the principle I can see it but just would make it easier visually to see Mm-hmm. Yeah, the difference. Colourbly? No, I'm not. So it's a but I but I've worked with those that have them. So I've not dealt with those things. So that's why I say maybe that's why we picked the colors you did. So if it can be

1:44:52We

1:44:52will exhaust the Corolla eight

1:44:53pack here. No, and this is excellent feedback. So we've actually had a team uh and so this team.

1:45:03Do

1:45:03it.

1:45:10When I asked for DR money coming up to take care of my roads that are already in there, you could see that I I should get some extra capital capacity. You did, you did.

1:45:22And again, I'm not looking for capacity, but I want my storm damage roads fixed. Thank you. Go ahead.

1:45:28All right. So we had a team um not to to you know show too much insider baseball, but we had a team come together that spanned three branches to really talk about how do we Show a little bit more detail into our road program publicly and with the board than we've done in the past while not inundating everybody with a whole bunch of information. And so what you're seeing here is I'm gonna call it the team's first pass. So we welcome all and any feedback on

1:45:58how to improve this in different future iterations as we continue to increase the level. of transparency that we have with the board and the public in terms of what's in our budget um and even what's out of our budget.

1:46:12You mean?

1:46:13Yeah.

1:46:13I think uh next time for the map you should have the districts like in bold you know, in bold to show where they are.

1:46:23Because it's it's very small to see the roads and stuff.

1:46:29Thank you.

1:46:35All right, so then if I switch to the next map, so the legend here is the same. It's the same um kind of concept. And what you're looking at are the sidewalk and trail projects that are occurring um throughout the county in the next five years.

1:46:49And if you could just go back to a slide. I I it was a little bit different than I was looking to get to a certain point, but Um When I look at uh State Road fifty two and forty one with the improvements going on, um, and you got it looks like it's red for f FY thirty one. And you've got It looks like construction's in the CIP for the rest of it. I mean that one link right there. is probably gonna be a a major blocking

1:47:19point of traffic back and forth again, just like it was the previous few years till we fixed that intersection of fifty two forty one. I know. DOT doesn't have it in their budget, but somehow that's gotta happen. And I'll just touch quickly on It's f it's the blue line up on uh County Line Road. So maybe now that we have Representative Holton coming back to the County Commission, if that hap if that happens that'll draw some more attention to up there but I'm gonna talk about what I heard and if you

1:47:49guys heard something different so be it, but I just think it's something that we need to address as a as a commission. I mean that road doesn't affect any other district but mine. but it's a road that affects the other county above it. They got money through the feds for intersection improvements when they didn't want to do County Line Road twenty something years ago because I wanted to do the road all the way through. They just did intersections. But That road section that's right in there? They wanted I th I think it was us to put up ten million and someone can correct me if they know the right numbers, but ten million apiece

1:48:20for each county, and then they wanted us to borrow the forty five million and pay them back for that. No. I'm gonna say that if they have the money out there for us to borrow the money from them. that And then

1:48:36pay them back.

1:48:36And then pay them back. They should be paying for that road period and make it part of this their thing. Why are we second fiddle to everything else that gets done? So if anybody wants to touch on that?

1:48:47Yeah, I can I can bring Nick up. I mean generally speaking for the overall project, F D O T is funding the design of the project. We are sharing uh right of way costs. So it's you know, so in addition to the four and a half million dollars for design, F Dot is also bringing another ten million uh to the table uh for uh property acquisition, which is about half of the estimated cost. We're sharing the remaining 10 with Hernando County, 50-50. And then there is another 10 million coming in as as a construction

1:49:17grant. But but to your point, there is about 45 million dollars that's coming in the form of an SIB loan. I don't know, Nick, if you could or if somebody could talk a little bit more about the details associated with that and how that program works. would be probably helpful for the board.

1:49:33Sure. Uh uh Nick you're at County Engineer. Uh briefly I hear you. It the State Infrastructure Infrastructure Bank is made available so that communities like ours who can't fully fund the full cost of construction and the shortfall is estimated to be forty five million can borrow that money And then pay it back over time. That that's a fiscal year 30 or 31 decision. So we're going to be chasing external grant funds in the interim to try to avoid borrowing that and having to

1:50:03repay it. That that's the the strategy we have in place today, but I hear you that we ought to do better and see if we can bring external dollars to bear and reduce that load on our county.

1:50:14But the state infrastructure bank, is that a essentially a revolving fund? How does that how does

1:50:18that work? I mean this this is a little out of my expertise, but the the state created a a a rolling um fund to allow for advancement of infrastructure dollars and then replenishing that fund as those repayments are made over time.

1:50:33How long is it going to

1:50:34take? And that's by the way, that's what we used for State Road fifty six. I'm sorry for that. That's okay. But that's how we did the extra two lanes. We borrowed that money.

1:50:40All right. So how did um how long is it going to take to do the design and then how long

1:50:46to do the right of way? Uh design is underway. Okay. And DOT is managing that, fully funding it, no contribution from the counties. Right away acquisition is estimated at twenty million dollars over two years. Okay, but the timeline. What's the timeline for the first? Uh design should be complete within Twelve to eighteen months.

1:51:03Okay. So we've got time and frankly I think this is gonna be is is considered already an evacuation route. And maybe we can reach out with the feds, with with our federal lobbyists and and start working that angle now. And that may give us enough time to draw

1:51:19some money from them. It's a great it's it's a great point because sometimes projects that are under construction there like when we say, Oh, there's federal grant money available, let's go get money for Ridge Road. We're we're building it, we know we it's expensive, we need m it's too late at that point to apply because we're already in the process. We've already gone past milestones. Okay, Commissioner Yeager.

1:51:38Yeah and um Mike, you know I bring this up every week and um Um to Commissioner Mariano's point, that that area of fifty two uh in the red for FY thirty one. If that's an evacuation route also, I mean it goes Could we try and go after funding for that too? Because when you're in when you're in Dade City, I mean it's wide open and then you get down to to two lanes right there. And I'm it just bottlenecks are not moving.

1:52:06That's right. Yeah. So when you hit when you hit Bellamy, the bottleneck so the DOT will address the bottleneck at Bellamy Brothers. The the the yellow line is funded for construction there intending to award those construction contracts within the yellow segment from east of 41 all the way to Old Pasco Road. They're hoping to award those construction contracts next summer. So that yellow segment will go to four lanes. From east of what a road on the north side called Secretariat. All the way through Bellamy and then at Bellamy it'll actually widen

1:52:36out to six lanes and become a six lane road from Bellamy to Old Pasco.

1:52:39So so what about when you're when

1:52:41The Hourglass is the red piece. The the piece just east of US 41.

1:52:45Yeah.

1:52:46Yeah, that's the piece that because it's about a thirty-five million dollar construction project, the DOT was not able to afford it in their updated five year work program. They know it's a priority, we know it's a priority. That one along with the uh fifty four forty one overpass our high priorities on the supplemental list of unfunded projects that we're pushing through the MPO. And and you all sit on the MPO board through the M PO board process to to say let's find the dollars needed

1:53:16to advance those into our

1:53:19What uh Chair Mariano said was a good point as it being an eva evacuation route. Is there anything we can go after at at through that angle because To speed it up or

1:53:31I will so we we typically do not fund the widening of state roads with county resources. They're they're generally funded with either federal um transportation dollars or state dollars.

1:53:42Can you

1:53:44So If it's the d We we can pursue it. Okay. I'll look into it. I'm just asking. Yeah, both with county resources and then I'll have a conversation with Secretary Hall from District Seven to see if we can't attract other creative funding strategies to to ensure that that hourglass is not in place any longer than it needs to be, and if possible not at all.

1:54:06Yeah, I think the intent would be outside outside of county resources. Yeah, that's what I mean. As you know, we yeah we're certainly strapped.

1:54:13We are stretching to cover our our bases, but I I hear you. But you couldn't necessarily

1:54:18state appropriation for s a state road. That

1:54:21we could do that.

1:54:25Good feedback.

1:54:25Thank you. Uh Commissioner Starkey has your hand raised, sir. Uh Commissioner Starkey.

1:54:38Yeah. A question of next slide.

1:54:43What is that red line? So back to me.

1:54:51That connects to balance. And that was Done. The people do that.

1:54:58Is that aaron cut off? No, I think she's talking off of Bellamy Road. There appears to be a vision road that is dashed. So if you go from fifty two north up to Bellamy, there is an intersection, looks like a green and yellow line, and then there is a red dot uh that that appears to be going into I I don't know if that's uh the Hills development or Yeah, it could be um I'm not I'm not certain, Commissioner Oakley.

1:55:24So I I can help with that a little bit. So I think that's a part, like the developer owns part of the property up to that red line part. That red part there is something that's owned by other people that aren't part of the development community, that haven't come to the table yet. That's Not a deal put together to try to make that one happen yet.

1:55:43Gotcha. But that is a thin line, which means that would be done by developer partners. Right. So it's so

1:55:48it's on them but

1:55:49they're

1:55:49not

1:55:49to the table as you. Yeah, we're we're just trying to show the in uh the complete picture of capital with with the map. David

1:55:55And and if I may, Mike, um just very quickly for everybody's benefit, on these maps what we have shown in the light gray that's not colored is the Vision Road Network network. And so again, that's why you see the lines kind of corresponding to what the future build out is um of the f vi uh future vision roads if they're not constructed yet. So that little segment would be, as as to the chair mentioned, would be a developer contribution to our vision road network.

1:56:21Okay. Because I was seeing a lot of gray, but I didn't know how Vision Roads.

1:56:26Our next question is when uh We go under stuff in the box. I think it's big. Person target.

1:56:38Are we having it? The caliber's off.

1:56:42Could be deeper.

1:56:44I heard are we having the developer and then you cut out, Kathryn?

1:56:50It goes from green to yell. Under step five.

1:56:56Oh yes, was it? David? Commissioner Starkey, yeah, that would be developer funded because that is the thinner green line that's shown on the map. And so again, as as um Amy pointed out, the the thickness of the line kind of designates who's building it. In this case, this would be a developer contributed project.

1:57:14But green represents that it is currently under construction and then yellow would be within the next five years to be under construction.

1:57:21Why aren't we just going ahead and

1:57:27While all the equipment is there.

1:57:30Uh it would be a developer call on on his efficiencies and costs. Uh it's not something that I believe that we're we're kicking in on. Um but I mean that's certainly kind of the timing is is at the preference of the developer.

1:57:47We can look into it further with the developer.

1:57:52What's down next slide?

1:58:05And you feel well?

1:58:07Uh no. Sorry.

1:58:11What slide are you talking about?

1:58:22Commissioner Starkey, what slide are you talking about?

1:58:26I got it. Where is Uh Right old.

1:58:32The Death Hills project.

1:58:35It's sound.

1:58:40I heard Jeff Hill's project

1:58:46No problem.

1:58:50Maybe she should text.

1:58:51Yeah, let's let's let's let's end this because this we don't have you c clear communication. Why don't you text what you want to ask to Mike and then we'll ask those questions. It's like take you're disrupting everything here.

1:59:01Yeah, just go ahead and text me, please, Commissioner.

1:59:05So just text everything to m to Mike what you want to ask and we'll go from there. Um I do want to bring up one point too. Um Fifty-four and forty-one was mentioned. Just so everybody knows that that is a hundred and eighty four million dollar project. Um I will say this, uh uh two Penellas County Commissioner sit in the T M A actually made the motion in the second, I'll say four or five years ago, to get that project funded. Uh has anything happened with getting it funded or we're still in limbo waiting to see if it's gonna happen? I

1:59:35do have one follow up question to that too.

1:59:38So this is again a little out of my wheelhouse. This is a state funded project and it's going through the uh the statewide strategic intermodal system process. The the construction is funded in uh fiscal year tw uh thirty two. So the state the strategic intermodal system has a five-year program and then they have a second five-year program. So it's in the beginning of their second five years. Okay. But it's outside of the five years. That we would traditionally refer to as our capital improvement program.

2:00:05Oh, that's not bad.

2:00:06It's it's just outside, but you know the we we we're continuing to work through the district secretary and district seven staff to ensure that it gets advanced into the five years and then into the first year because ultimately we'd like to see it go to construction.

2:00:19Right. But that's that's that's much better news than what I thought I might hear, so that's all right.

2:00:24Ms. Cabrella. Nick, if you could stay there, Commissioner Starkey wanted to know if if you knew the uh the two rivers project uh down down south. Uh the commissioner was curious as to you know not seeing any necessarily any trails there under either under active construction or or planned uh to your knowledge. Are there is there any trail connectivity going on?

2:00:46So let me let me make a couple of comments on the maps. First comment is uh A shout out to Justin Comninos and our development services team for compiling this this was a Herculean effort, just compiling all of the obligations that we've assigned to developers. through their rezoning applications and and the resultant conditions of approval. We you you I'm I'm actually very impressed with the commissioners. You have encyclopedic memories and knowledge of all the things that you have required people to do. We we didn't have a very

2:01:16good database to track all of that content until recently. So that was created and and that's why we were able to present to you a map. Like this, because we have that in a database format now. Second comment is any place that we are showing roads under construction, those roads consistent with board-approved typical sections will include trails as part of the road capacity component. That's being constructed by the developers. Last thing I'm getting, you know, that was two big picture things. With respect to

2:01:46two rivers, the majority of the roads, the north-south roads, both two rivers, Boulevard and Colston, east-west, and Lodge Grass on the east. Have already been constructed and inspected. So those trails are not shown on the capital improvement program because they're completely done. That's right. So that's that's the last distinction. Something that has recently been constructed will not be shown on this map. We are working to create an accurate existing conditions map

2:02:17so that as projects are finished. the infrastructure and the network connectivity that they create is is able to be mapped as an existing facility open to the public for use.

2:02:26Specific to the commissioner's question and I think we can report back on two rivers specifically through separate correspondence.

2:02:32Trails are constructed consistently

2:02:37Great, thank you. So I like to say, Nick, you've done a phenomenal job compiling that 'cause as as I think about it through, I'm gonna I know I've talked about the colours not being betweak but I wanna say the information that is here is absolutely phenomenal. I've I've never seen anything like this. So thank you for putting all this together and making that step 'cause

2:02:54yeah.

2:02:54I it was brilliant to put it together like this. So appreciate it.

2:02:57It was a team effort.

2:02:58Yeah, no phenomenal.

2:02:59So thank you team.

2:03:00Uh

2:03:00one last question, uh Nick. Any any uh Uh um ninety eight or three oh one do we already have trails under construction or or currently planned along those areas on the east side? That was Commissioner Starkey asking.

2:03:13Uh so ninety-eight the reconstruction of ninety eight and the realignment up into uh to align with state road fifty two, that's underway. If you go back one slide, Amy. Um

2:03:27Waited too long.

2:03:28I did.

2:03:31The it The US ninety eight uh four lane widening, the green line on the east side of the map Uh and the realignment into um stable fifty two does include a trail system. They're actually going to be giving us the old segment of US 98 as it comes into US 301. And we're working with them. They're going to be resurfacing that as sort of a transitional, here it is for county maintenance forever. We'll give it to you in good condition. As part of that resurfacing, we'll be including construction of trail

2:04:01facilities on the piece that they're giving to us. It's gonna be as as a locally funded contribution, but it's a cheaper way to get those trails constructed than if we were to wait for them to give it to us and then have to mob design and mobilize and construct on our own. Uh that deals with US ninety eight and then I see it can I I'll come back to three. Commissioner Oakley. And

2:04:20part of the giving back to us, that's that's the part from um 301 out to the big roundabout. On that section. It's the

2:04:32it's the diagonal piece. Do you have a laser on

2:04:34there? Oh. Come on. Nick.

2:04:41This piece right here. That's the piece they're giving to us.

2:04:47Which is the old piece? That's right. Okay. Yeah. That that is funny. Yeah. I drove that yesterday and and it looks very good what they're doing out there. The they had a huge roundabout where those two roads meet. And

2:04:59uh

2:04:59it

2:04:59looks very good. The new construction will be a continuous four lane road with trail facilities and the it will tie into the old US ninety eight via that roundabout at that southern just south where the S curves uh begins. Nick will that saw

2:05:12large trucks and all moving through there yesterday as I come come back from Lakeland. So

2:05:17Nick, will that continue all the way to the southeast of the Polk border?

2:05:23Boy, you're taxing my memory. These are state projects. Yeah. Um Let me get an answer to that. Okay, thank you. Let me confirm that. All right, perfect. I I believe so, but I'd like to confirm.

2:05:33Okay.

2:05:34Uh as far as US 301, there are some resurfacing projects that are underway, and as well as the widening to the north. The widening to the north will have a pa trail component that's the north from uh where US 98 north of Dade City, really near the 575 Trilby Road area, where the US 98301 diverged that point. Is being widened to four lanes and will have a trail component. And then we've asked the DOT to include as part of the resurfacing work of 301 south of that to include a trail facility.

2:06:12the Withacoochie State Trail trailhead facility on the west side of three oh one we'd like to get a trail up to that point. We have the the county is extending from the Hardy Trail To that trailhead, we are doing an extension as a standalone trail project. Now, Amy, if you jump forward one slide, I think we can see that line. Uh that's the large yellow line in the northeast Pasco. Um that that's a county administered project to build a trail from the Hardy Trail in Dade City

2:06:42north up um

2:06:46I've got Lock Street 21st and and then jumping back over to the east. And so that we we will construct that trail as a gap segment, get to the trailhead and then the uh With Lacuochie State Trail goes north from there. We'd like the three the piece along 301 um to be built by the state. If they don't build it for us, we'll get it constructed one way or another.

2:07:11And I I don't I don't think there are other projects on 301 that I'm overlooking at this point. So hopefully that answered Commissioner Starkey's question. Yeah.

2:07:21Thank you, Nick. You're gonna have to show me the Yeah. Oh, that one? Yeah, uh duck your w duck your head. Ooh, all right. That was fun. Thanks. All right. So we have one final map. And the legend is slightly different than the others, mainly because lines don't work for intersections. So we have circles for things that are developer or F dot. projects, the squares are for PASCO projects,

2:07:52and then the blue stars are funding for the first time in the five-year CIP.

2:08:09Alright, so