Anonymous code and third-party inspection issues

2:07:42I had two things that I wanted to bring up about possibly pop policy stuff. And one I think I think we said if FAC is going to take it up, we're not gonna push the statewide order. But I want to try again for the anonymous code Mm-hmm. Um code. I I have a constituent, I've had quite a few who've been beaten up by their neighbors. One was in the hospital, eighteen stitches. So um I I think this is a bad idea and Sean I know it's some senator

2:08:13who's a builder.

2:08:14Who was it that that was getting it it was a senator that was blocking us because he was

2:08:18in Latchua County and that's we'll just go leave it as well. Is Perry. Perry. Is he still

2:08:23in?

2:08:23Yes. Yes. But I have had that discussion uh with a uh w one of our own legislators that uh is receptive to it. We could probably go talk with him on a on a separate note. Um don't look at it as repealing, but the the suggestion that he was comfortable with is that a a citizen could contact They're commissioners. Or their county. No. I get feedback. Basically you're repealing

2:08:53then the the law by saying go to the county. But if they go to their commissioner, you don't have to take their their name and address you just find out where the location of the complaint is and that's how it's done. Okay.

2:09:07And it's gonna be on a policy uh

2:09:09at

2:09:09FAC, I can tell you that.

2:09:13The other one has to do with third party inspections and we've got

2:09:19There's a

2:09:19We've got someone right here with Terry who's um living this. Is Rob Marin here? Okay. So and I don't even know how up to speed Rob Marin is on this, but we have we have quite a few homes that have been built that have mold. Yeah,

2:09:35yeah.

2:09:35And because they have been inspected by a third party provider, there is nothing we can do. Right. And it's so sad because some of these people they know that their house is gonna have mold. They don't wanna close and they're being told if you don't close then you lose your deposit and Um and they go in, they have mold and they have to move out and go stay in a hotel. Right. And unsadly Even kinda knowing this a little bit. Mr. Pito's got a house that has mold in it. And he and I'm

2:10:05not sure. That was inspected by a third party provider. Nothing we can do.

2:10:11Yeah, and and we've had that encounter with some of our legislators. The constituents are calling them new build, putting in HVACs. So it is a discussion and the only thing we as a county can do on that is tell them if they are licensed with the state.

2:10:34Our our answer is and yes we have gotten a f uh a handful through our legislature our legislators is that they are treated as licensed professionals just as our building officials are. Um and if it has gone through the private provider process they're their recourse is through D B P R and um and making complaints about that licensure and a civil matter. We have no oversight once it particularly after it's been CO'd.

2:11:00But if we see the building plan and we see that it's under uh under vented Um the AC m unit may be too small. We can't step in. and make comments on defects that our our staff sees.

2:11:18The limitation on plan review, we cannot go back and do plan review or inspection like for like. That's specifically in statute. Uh but we can audit. So to the extent that we are allowed to audit a private provider up to four times a month. Now granted there's not a whole lot of of quantity of private providers, so we're sort of limited based on the volume of homes that are being built, the ability to go in and do those individualized audits. Um

2:11:49but in in terms of doing plan review, we cannot do plan review after the the uh private provider has done plan review.

2:11:57Well, you know, so we have to tell them sorry, this is a civil suit, and I tell you our constituents don't like it.

2:12:02Yeah, that's what the legislators have to tell them. And so I think they're hearing it loud and clear, and you're probably gonna see that get Tweaked.

2:12:11Well it should be tweaked because I think some of them are actually using that so they avoid our county inspectors from seeing what's going on. I think it's very important that we know that thing is being built right and they're being looked after. I know a gentleman that that I I guarantee everything he did Mm. the past was done without permits. So I worry about what they're doing and they got a third party inspector. Mm. They're

2:12:42paying 'em maybe they're paying 'em extra so they don't have to they can cut corners and not do the right thing. But it's out of our hands. Just a problem.

2:12:50Yeah, so that so so going back to where we were, that really might not be the issue that we want to be the one to lead the charge. Uh we're hoping that the association, the legislatures on their own will just say, Yeah, we're hearing it loud and clear, which we are you know, I put that bug in the uh ear of that representative and said, if you wish to change the legislature. We are happy to work with you with the knowledge that we've had on that. But it's definitely gonna have to, I think, be a statewide effort

2:13:21rather than us being the one to lead the job. But they're seeing it more and more.

2:13:31When you have a a developer brand new built home, perhaps offering the opportunity. For the homeowner to select, make a selection of private provider versus the local county building uh uh department to do the inspections because our homeowners don't have an option currently. Yeah. Okay. They don't know until it's it's too late after they CO'd and they posed on the home.

2:13:52Kind of like maybe the extra form disclosure form, Sean. Maybe like an extra disclosure form to say if you're going to go with a private provider, keep Mind the county cannot go back and help you after the fact. Something

2:14:03like

2:14:03that would

2:14:03be great. Yeah.

2:14:04Little little notice.

2:14:05That could be an easy fixing.

2:14:07Well, I think but go

2:14:09ahead.

2:14:17Right. So even if we provided a disclosure They're not really the one really they're well. when they sign a contract, I guess. When they sign a contract, they've locked themselves into using a private provider that

2:14:33It's not like they say Well we can get our home built faster by using a private provider. That they're not even involved in the discussion.

2:14:41But if the legislature said the developer you're gonna have to give show them the option and say, With us you're doing private

2:14:48You you'd have to change the statute to say that that the consumer must be given that choice of picking

2:14:56up

2:14:56the right-of-way.

2:14:58Right. And I think that's that would be one that you could say is doable. Now with the developers like that, no, but the consumer and their constituents would. So we hear you loud and clear on that one.

2:15:11Okay, I'm done.

2:15:12This is definitely not a Pasco County issue. This is

2:15:16a all County, all Florida is a good thing. Amen. Thank you.

2:15:20All right.