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ZONING AMENDMENT (CONSENT) – Edward B. Karlander – Change In Zoning From an A-R Agricultural-Residential District to an MF-1 Multiple Family Medium Density District – Southwest Pasco County – On the North Side of Darlington Road Opposite Santiago Drive, Extending Northerly to Sunray Drive – Containing Approximately 17.15 Acres

Recommendatio n: Approval with conditionsPDD-19-7426District 3

What the county recorded

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Staff recommendation

Approve

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PDD-19-7426 was taken up 2 times between Aug 8, 2019 and Aug 20, 2019 — this is appearance 1.

  1. Aug 8, 2019PlanningPC7No disposition in the minutesthis item
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1/2Taken up at 8:43

Denise

PC7 is PDD 197426 in the name of Edward P. Carlander for a change in zoning from an AR agricultural residential to an MF1 Multiple Family Medium Density District. This comes to you with a recommendation of approval with a correction to finding of fact number 10, as was uh I presented that to the clerk's office as well, which reads, unless an alternative standard is approved for paying a proportionate share cost in lieu of improving Darlington Road to County Standards,

the applicant will be responsible for improving Darlington Road to County standards.

GreyChair

All right. You see seven is the applicant present. Okay, anyone here to object?

Alright, you'd like to have a poll? Do you like to you like to have it pulled? Yeah. Okay.

2/2Taken up again at 1:14:00

Denise

Item PC seven is PDD 197416 in the name of Edward B. Carlander. This is a rezoning from Agricultural Residential to MF1 Multiple Family Medium Density District located in southwest Pasco County on the north side of Darlington Road opposite Santiago Drive extending northerly to Sunray Drive. containing seventeen point one five acres. On this parcel, the applicant has agreed to record a deed

restriction limiting the uses on the property to a total of 81 townhomes. The parcel is surrounded by uh RMH and R4 to the south, which includes the Darlington Road, I'm sorry, Buena Vista Manor. Mobile Home Subdivision and Orangewood Village Residential Subdivision. To the west is a church, the next level church, and then adjacent to that is the Oak Hill Subdivision, which is

a high-density residential district subdivision. To the north is Sunray Drive and Pasco-owned property. Some of it is submerged land. And to the east is the Holiday Community Fellowship Church.

Surrounding land uses are res nine, potential for nine dwelling units per acre.

And uh the access to the property is from Darlington Road, not being proposed from Sunray. There is a finding that I read into the record, finding number 10, which we kind of talked about in the previous rezoning as well. Which states unless an alternative standard is approved for paying a proportionate share cost in lieu of improving Darlington Road to County Standards, the applicant will be responsible for improving Darlington Road to County Standards. This comes to you with a recommendation of approval. Again, the applicant has

voluntarily agreed to record a deed restriction limiting the use to a total of 81 townhome units.

GreyChair

All right, Catholic present. So

Cox

I have a question. W Why would uh access be on Darlington and not Sunray?

Denise

Uh Sunrate and I'll I'll allow the applicant to speak that. Uh Sunrate is encumbered by wetlands. So this is all a big

Cox

wetland area. Yeah. Okay, thanks. So

GreyChair

the applicant is the applicant present. I don't remember.

Barbara Wilhite

Barbara Willheid, sixty three twenty-seven, Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey three four six five two. Um we are in support of staff's recommendation. Denise just did a great job laying out the facts, the surrounding uses, the land use. the uh number of units, the deed restriction and the like. I know there's um a neighbor here that has some questions, so let's go ahead and listen to the neighbor. I have my project engineer and transportation engineer here that can probably answer any questions that come up.

GreyChair

Great. Thank you, Mark.

All right, thank you. You'll state your name and address please.

Lori Dresser

Sure. Good afternoon. My name is Lori Dresser. I am a uh resident of [address removed]. I am also a Pasco County school teacher. And We would like a continuance of more information before the Planning Board decides yes on this proposal. There are a number of reasons why. First of all I When you're looking at the parcel information from the county, there's no

FEMA codes here. Why? Probably because Darlington Road floods, Sunray floods, Flintwood Drive floods, and we're not always talking Oh, half an inch. We're talking six or greater inches. You have submerged land. Therefore, do you propose proper drainage so that Flintwood Drive where

I live is not going to continue? It used to be the very end of Flintwood Drive. Back up Fuddy. Now it's a third up the street. It gets worse and worse and worse. So flooding is a great issue. Secondly We have contacted

Uh the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. Swift Mud and the EPA. in that small area is a number of animals, including The gopher tortoise, which is protected. There are owls, there are coyotes, there are deer. There's quite a bit of wildlife, all kinds of birds. The land across the street that is submerged has been um the

study of more than one environmentalist. They go there voluntarily, they uh of course catalog the birds and the bees and we have quite a bit uh uh wildlife there. And if you do develop that land, you can do that. I'm sorry that

GreyChair

since you're making the statements, do you have uh information to back that up that we can receive and file?

Lori Dresser

I have a point of contact. Her name is Alexis Black. No, I mean do you have

GreyChair

Documentation.

Lori Dresser

You wanna see pictures?

GreyChair

No, I I wanna see documentation that you're you're making statements. We either have to assume you have the documentation to back it up or you just are you're just making it up. That's what I'm asking for.

No, I'm not making it up. And I will tell you Where's the documentation? I just have what I have written here.

Cox

Mr. Chairman the gopher tortoises are listed in the final fact. Yeah.

GreyChair

That's pretty common. Yeah.

Lori Dresser

I do have th these are from your website that have no FEMA codes on it. Would you like these?

GreyChair

I see those every day.

Lori Dresser

Yeah. So

GreyChair

the county has other sites on the on uh within the county I know that does tell what the female code is.

Lori Dresser

Well when

Denise

you do

GreyChair

not try to hide anything.

Denise

Yeah, I'd can I please clarify. Um when a parcel has more than one FEMA code, it typically doesn't come out on the appraisers. So if you look at your finding of fact number three. It says that the subject site is located in flood zones A E. X and X five hundred. So this parcel has three different FEMA code, FEMA zones, AE, X and X five hundred. So

GreyChair

Thank you. All right. Daniel?

Lori Dresser

The Darlington Road is of great concern.

That A, there are no sidewalks on Darlington Road. It is not a very wide street. It has a lot of traffic.

We don't understand why it cannot have a sun ray entrance. That's what the whole neighborhood is saying. Why can't they just have an entrance on Sunray? That would be much more reasonable.

The mobile homes are sitting approximately eight feet from the s from Darlington Road. They're right on top of it.

Mm-hmm.

The second uh another point is

Holiday has been a bastion for affordable housing. We have is this going to be affordable housing? And what I mean by affordable housing is I went to preview other town homes right down the street across from Lowe's in uh Tarpon. They're running $331,000 apiece.

The majority of the people who live there are not that you cannot make that kind of money. I certainly can't.

So are we looking uh constantly, we are constantly getting letters from people trying to buy our houses on Flutter Drive. They have texted me, they have called me, they have written us. Holidays seem seem to be the last bastion of affordable housing. And There's a lot more construction going on. Right across the street from US nineteen, there is a housing boom. And

People are concerned about the schools.

Okay. So th th there's quite a bit of going on and we would just like more information before you just approve this.

GreyChair

All right. Thank you very much. Is there anybody else who would like to speak?

Barbara, uh come s address some of those concerns?

Barbara Wilhite

Sure, Barbara Wilhite, I will have uh our project engineer Jeremy Couch from Tampa Civil come up and talk to you about the drainage situation. I can note that um natural resources, if you look at finding it the finding effect, natural resources actually visited the site. um and uh made a finding of fact as to what they saw, what their requirement would be. We'll have a requirement for us to do ourselves to do a listed species survey required by your code. Um and then after Jeremy Couch we do have Steve Henry here and he can talk about Darlington Road.

GreyChair

Okay, you're talking about the access part? Yes. Yeah.

project engineer

Good afternoon Commissioner. Jeremy Couch with Tampa Civil. Excuse my voice today. Uh woke up this morning and somehow uh it disappeared. But uh 17937 Hunting Bow Circle uh loots three three five five eight. Uh to address um the citizens' concerns um There is a a slight issue with flooding on Darlington. Um the issue is because there's no infrastructure for when the surrounding communities were constructed. If you look at the neighborhoods

to the south, um it's pretty clear you don't see any retention ponds. Essentially they all just dump to Darlington and then it sits there. As part of our project, we're going to be required to put in infrastructure. We have to dedicate 40 foot of right-of-way from the center line of the road. We will have to build a sidewalk along our frontage. And we've had small conversations with development services staff about possibly connecting that sidewalk all the way out to Sunrise. We're going to put in a swale to capture the drainage and take

it off the street so that there's no longer a flooding issue. We don't want our new residents to flood, and I think this is going to help the neighborhood as a whole. Uh the reason we cannot put an access on to um a sunray is we have a category one wetland on with portion of the property. The land is low, it does have flood storage. We're not going to be developing anywhere in that area. If we were to bifurcate that wetland with a road, um I don't think it would be good for the area.

We think that the proper access is off of Darlington. Again, excuse my voice. The property does have three flood zones. We've identified a zone AE with an elevation of 10. Our plan for the project, because we are considerably higher than that elevation, is to pretty much stay out of it. We might have some minor compensating storage that we'll do in the fringe areas of our project. But again, we'll have to meet uh Section 902 of the LDC. We'll have to get a Swift Money RP,

and we'll have to deal with our fair share of Darlington Road. I'm here if you have any other questions.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Thank you. Any questions?

project engineer

Okay.

Henry

Good afternoon. Steve Henry, Linkson Associates, 5023 West Laurel, Tampa 33607. As a part of the project, we will be doing an access management analysis to evaluate the access to Darlington. In fact, we've already done the counts and have a preliminary analysis done. Has not been submitted. It will be submitted as a part of the construction plans for that. But based on our initial assessment, Darlington Road, there is no capacity issue on Darlington. road there's plenty of capacity. We've actually run the analysis, shows that all the movements and the roadway operate

at acceptable level of service within your criteria of the code. So we don't see any issue with Darlington from an access standpoint. And as is indicated we will go through the substandard road and evaluate the road as a part of the development process.

GreyChair

So you're gonna have multiple ingress and egress points?

Henry

Uh we'll have one one access point um into the project. Th this this size project one access would be sufficient to accommodate the project.

GreyChair

All right. Any questions?

Roberto, alien engineer, any questions?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

No.

GreyChair

Are you okay? Okay, thank you. All right.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Move for approval.

GreyChair

I second. Motion to approve and a second. Any further discussion? Are they in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.