FAC-24-0034

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1. 1Nov 14, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP95Public hearingContinued

   Petition to Vacate Portions … Platted Right-of-Way and Alleyway (Regular) (Continuance) – First Street and Alleyway, Lacoochee Alleyway – Tabatha Wallace and … – No Funding Required

   Approved minutes

   Approved to continue the item to the January 9, 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City with Commissioner Bradford absent from the vote.

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   Jack MarianoChair

   1:10:49All right, so I'm gonna we'll okay. We don't have any action to take on that last item? No. Okay, so we're moving right along. Okay, so now we'll get to the public hearing.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:11:00Would you like me to read

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:11:01the procedure? Mr. County Attorney, please.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:11:03There are two rezoning agendas regulating consent. Staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation, the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual, or five minutes for a group representative, and the applicant will be

   1:11:33given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda, in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give me your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn

   1:12:03for the record. These are quasi-judicial public hearing. The law in Florida is that public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the Board's Land Development Code. Madam Clerk, would you like to swear folks in?

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:12:21Yes, um Mr. Steinsnyder. If um if anyone here is in the public would like to speak to any of the remaining items, if you could please stand.

   1:12:33Please stand if you plan to um speak at the podium. All right. Please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Thank you.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:12:49Okay. So we have a few continuances. Uh start with P ninety five.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:12:53Item P95 was published in the Tambay Times on October 1st, 2023, and October 8th, 2023.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:12:59Thank you.

   Denise

   1:12:59Denise Hernandez Planning and Development. P95 is FAC 240034. This is a request to continue the item to the January 9, 2024, Board of County Commissioners meeting at 130 in Dade City.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:13:11We have a motion.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:13:12Move continues.

   Denise

   1:13:13Second.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:13:14All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. P96. Do we have approved?

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:13:20Yes, item P ninety six was published in the Tampay Times on September twentieth, twenty twenty three. B

   Denise

   1:13:2596 is PD D 24 7683 Crossways MEUD. The request is to continue the item to the January 9, 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 in Dade City.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:13:38We have a motion. Move approval. Move approved. Thank you. Moved to continue. Continued. Moved to continue. Sorry.

   1:13:45All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? P ninety seven.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:13:50Item P ninety seven was published in the Bay Times on September twentieth, twenty twenty three.

   Denise

   1:13:55P97 is PDD 24, 7744, Dawood Hani, and Mimataud Nerme. The request is to continue the item to the January 9, 2024, Board of County Commissioners meeting at 130 in Date City.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:14:06Do I have a motion to continue it?

   Denise

   1:14:08Second.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:14:09All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Item P ninety eight.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:14:13Item P ninety eight was published in the Tampay Times on August on August 23rd, 2023.

   Denise

   1:14:19P ninety eight is PD D 24 CU02, Pasco Cow Land and Cattle Company, LLC, Skyway Towers, Verizon Wireless. The request is to continue the item to the January 9th, 2024, Board of County Commissioners meeting at 130 in Dade City. So move. Second.

2. 2Feb 6, 2024
   Board of County CommissionersP48Public hearingApproved

   Approved minutes

   Approved Staff’s recommendation by a roll call vote.

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   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   34:22Yes, sir. P forty eight was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times January seventh, twenty twenty-four, and January fourteenth, twenty twenty-four.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   34:37Good afternoon, Commissioners. Uh the Real Property team has received a petition to vacate platted right-of-way and alleyway filed by Tabitha Wallace and Mark Evans. The purpose of this vacation is to create one property for a homestead exemption. There were no objections to this petition and the team recommends approval. And the petitioner is here if you have any questions.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:02I'm kinda a fan of alley's.

   Ron OakleyChair

   35:05Let's go back to the map where it shows uh right away.

   35:11Um maybe the next map. Okay.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:15I d I don't know where this is in context to anything else, but Does that does that red mean that we've been vacating those

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   35:24That's the re yeah, that's the portion that's being requested to vacate.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:27Well there there's two red lines, so what's that mean?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   35:29There's the northern portion is an alleyway and the bottom portion is platted right of way.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:34Well how is there a house built in the alleyway?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   35:36It w it's yeah, it was something that was done way before. I I'm unsure of how it was there. Wait, there are multiple houses in the outer.

   35:47Again, this is all all paper roads and alleyways that have been there for many years.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:52Like how like how long?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   35:53I I don't know an exact

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   35:56division, it's Miller Subdivision.

   Ron OakleyChair

   35:59Come up Okay.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   36:07Oh sorry. Tabitha Wallace. You want my post office or my physical address? Physical address? [address removed]

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   36:17And where you swore. Morning.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   36:19She

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   36:19doesn't need to be

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   36:20for a vacation, but

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   36:20that's

   Unidentified speaker

   36:20okay.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   36:21Okay. Then never mind.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   36:23Don't worry about it.

   Unidentified speaker

   36:25Okay.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   36:26So the the property was own is been owned by my grandfather in the family for my mother is seventy will be seventy-seven, seventy-eight this year. And she was about ten years old when my grandfather was in the service. Each month my grandmother bought a lot of Miller's Miller Subdivision is what this is called. and the house built there my grandfather built, my mother put in the pool and the other house you see there that's the pool house in between and the big house that I live in and my mother lives in the pool house. and in the field and

   36:56my brother Mark Evans is my brother. and he lives over in the corner here. So because of the property, my mom put it in our name. She split up the field and all to him and put the house and everything in my name. And so now I wanna file Homestead as one and I can't because of the road the the street and the alleyway that's never been used. It my grandfather memory home gar um growing a garden there. Always had the the shop. That's a big shop you see there is not a house there beside my house in the garage. It's

   37:27never been a road, it's never been an alleyway ever. And I am older too, so in my in my life not gonna say how nice. So but it's never. It's always been our family property and my father and my grandfather has always maintained it and we've maintained it. It's never been maintained by the county. Right. And the p we got permits for the pool, we got permits for the buildings. How that was? In the alley? In the alley, yes. And my my stepfather, which is not uh with us anymore, he actually came down and did something at

   37:57the property wherever you made all that years ago. I wasn't involved in it then but so he come in and paid for the get the permits and did everything this so we thought actually all that was taken care of years ago. But now that it's in my name I'm having to pay full tax and not able to file homestead and that's the reason I'm here today, is to try and get it all as one.

   Ron OakleyChair

   38:17And this is in the Licucci area, right? It is

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   38:19in Likucci, yes sir.

   Ron OakleyChair

   38:21So this area where it is Platbook Two. So it's really old. Wow. It's been like this for a long time and and because for sixty four years Lakucci's been going backwards because of the comer plant leaving uh many years ago. So uh that's why some of this was planted this way, I suppose, but

   Kathryn Starkey

   38:45I wonder if there's some cleanup we need to do in that area. I I mean does the county ever go in and clean up? Yeah, not make the doesn't have to hire attorneys or whatever to I don't know what you had to do to get to this point but I've been working

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   39:00for two years. No, the county the county doesn't go in and vacate Vacate it vacate its right-of-way unless there's a request.

   Kathryn Starkey

   39:12Well I'm thinking that with you know, I I love alleys but I see what's going on here and we're not getting any taxable income from those alleys.

   Ron OakleyChair

   39:21No.

   Kathryn Starkey

   39:22And if they were in the property, wouldn't it be better for us? us?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   39:27Yeah.

   39:30I I don't don't know all over the this would be a Full team job.

   Kathryn Starkey

   39:37Yeah, yeah. It's a big one. I mean look at Wayne Road. That's not I don't I don't even understand what's going on whose property is Wayne Road.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   39:45Wayne Avenue, that road you see right there is actually my property. That's part of my property goes over. If you look at the how each subdivision, how the line the green lines, it's it's crazy the way they did that uh however many years ago, like as you were saying uh hundred years ago, yes. So it's it's very hard. Maybe that's the reason it's never nothing been done with it, because it is very tricks your mind or what have you. It's very confusing and very probably very hard to do that. But I just wanna

   40:15build a file homestead exemption on all my property. I was hoping with my brother um part of it 'cause he owns more property up this way, but because him and his wife's name is on some of it, we had to actually stop where we stopped at.

   Kathryn Starkey

   40:27So that piece along the bottom, the wider one, is that supposed to be a road? That is a

   Ron OakleyChair

   40:32road,

   Kathryn Starkey

   40:32yes.

   Ron OakleyChair

   40:33And it will never be a road because you got Yeah. There's a house down there building it. There's a lot of stuff in that. Yeah,

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   40:38there's there were there were two more houses there from um some older generations. that have passed and and one of the places my mother bought and the house came down and then there was another house beside my brother's house here on the corner. He lives there, him and his wife, and there was a house beside them that they um actually tore down whenever they purchased all that property. So It's it's just a mess.

   Ron OakleyChair

   40:59I assume this will not be uh the last time we actually see this in our redevelopment of the Lakchi area. Yeah. I think this will come before us more and more. Okay that we'll find things that don't like this. Yeah. So

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:14you need public you need to have public

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:16comment if there is any is anyone here to speak to this item?

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   41:20And there's no one signed up and no one on

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:22WebEx. Nobody on WebX. So pleasure of the board more pool

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   41:27second

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:27got a motion second by roll call vote

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   41:30District two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Hi. District four, Commissioner Bradford. District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District one, Chairman Oakley.

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:43Aye. Motion passed. Move on to P49. Thank you. Thank you.