PDD-20-7477

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1. 1Jun 4, 2020
   Planning CommissionPC4Public hearingApproved

   ZONING AMENDMENT (REGULAR) (CONSENT) - FAM LLC/Moon Lake … in Zoning from E-R Estate-Residential Estate Residential District to MF-1 Multiple … of Moon Lake Road, Approximately approximately 1.25 Miles South of … Containing Approximately 45.03 Acres

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   Approved Staff’s recommendation by roll call vote.

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   Christina Costa

   19:34Okay. Item PC four is PDD 20-7477. It's in the name of FAML C slash Moon Lake Acres. It is for a rezoning from ER, a state residential district, to MF1, multiple family medium density district.

   19:53The property is located on the west side of Moon Lake Road, approximately 1.25 miles south of State Road 52.

   20:03The zoning amendment is from ER, a state residential, to MF1, Multiple Family Medium Density District, in order to develop the site with a maximum of 162 single-family attached townhomes. The surrounding area is characterized by single-family and multiple family uses.

   20:22The subject site is an expired portion of the Baywood Meadows Forest Point PUD Planned Unit Development. But on August 9, 2005, the PUD Plan Unit Development Zoning District was repealed through ordinance 05-32. In accordance with our land development code, a PUD that expires shall cause the property to revert to the zoning district that existed prior to the zoning of the PUD. So the subject parcel had a previous zoning of ER, and that is what we're rezoning today. The

   20:52expired PUD included entitlements for a mix of multifamily, attached single-family, and detached single-family dwellings.

   21:03Here's a look at the zoning, the current zoning and the surrounding zoning of the area. Yeah. And the future land use is res six for the site. And access is off of uh Moon Lake Road.

   21:19This comes to you with a recommendation of approval from PDD. And I'm here for any questions you have.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   21:26Ah okay. How many acres is that?

   Christina Costa

   21:31S so altogether the the site is just over forty-five acres.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   21:37All right. Okay. Um any Questions from the board.

   Christopher Poole

   21:44Mr. Chairman M I've got a question on Chris Poole. Okay, go ahead. So mine is regarding traffic. I drove this site this morning in a pretty pretty driving rain rainstorm and I see in the timing phasing analysis that they are Proposing a left turn in northbound. My question is that going to be signalized or not? Or is that still to be determined?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   22:10No, not the right fault.

   Christina Costa

   22:13So access to the site is is determined at the site plan point. Perhaps the applicant is on the line too and she has her her traffic consultant and maybe they can answer the question of the future intention for development.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   22:27Okay. Right. Anyway, it's not available at the moment.

   Barbara Wilhite

   22:33This is Torkable High. Can you hear me?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   22:36Yeah. Right. Barbara.

   Barbara Wilhite

   22:38Hi Plenty Commission members, how are you?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   22:40Right.

   Barbara Wilhite

   22:42So Mr. Poole, the answer is that we did a preliminary access management analysis with our timing and phasing analysis. And it did call for the need for, as you mentioned, that left turn lane, 455 feet northbound left turn lane. It's only a preliminary analysis at site plan. The access plan to be formally reviewed.

   Christopher Poole

   23:03Okay. Yeah, I just want I just wanna go on record 'cause that's a very high high uh velocity area, I guess if you want to call it. And it's a pretty sharp turn coming around there. So I think from a safety perspective, that's that's something I wanted to add. And I also see in the timing phasing analysis, there's no Sort of deceleration lane or or anything coming south to turn right. Is that is that correct? Or is that does that seem to be determined as well?

   Barbara Wilhite

   23:27Yeah, that's for the uh analysis that we submitted. Um as I've as I stated, that was a preliminary analysis. So staff um in the staff report has a finding that says that they're gonna review access management at the site plan as well.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   23:41Okay.

   Denise

   23:42Barbara, let's let's get you sworn in first. Uh state your name and your address for the record, and then the clerk will swear you.

   Barbara Wilhite

   23:49We're getting it all out of order. Sixty-three twenty-seven, Barbara Willheight, sixty-three twenty-seven Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey Florida, three four six five two.

   Clerk

   23:59Do you swear affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God?

   Barbara Wilhite

   24:03I do.

   Denise

   24:08Also on this item I want to mention we do have a caller that is waiting in the queue. So Um would you like to

   Barbara Wilhite

   24:20Yes, we would just defer and just see what the concerns may be, and then we can uh I have a team on on WebEx as well. So let's go ahead and defer and see what the caller uh neighbor has to say and then we can um address any questions.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   24:35All right, that sounds good.

   24:38Right. Denise, you want to bring in the collar?

   Denise

   24:41Yeah, we'll bring in the collar. I'll walk

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   24:43on

   Denise

   24:43you.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   24:45Esun Khalil, is that the name?

   Clerk

   24:53Collar, would you please state your name and address for the record?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   24:57Dana Fetterman. S-E-T-T-E-R-M-A-N. I live at [address removed].

   Denise

   25:09And uh the clerk will now swear you in. Okay.

   Clerk

   25:14Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God?

   Denise

   25:20Yeah. Okay, your three minutes start now. Thank you, Ms. Setterman.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   25:26Okay, yeah, I'm calling on the Moon Lake Acre. Um agenda T C four. And my concerns are the Moon Lake Road safety. Um it's actually very, very busy road already. Um Water's Edge has townhomes being added. Um River Ridge had some added recently and Um, Rhodeshaven is being developed at this time. Um, and my daughter does sub and she said the schools, there's

   25:5620, 25 kids per classroom and there's a lot of outbuildings already in this area. Um, I also work on the school system and I know there's a lot of special needs kids. who aren't getting the services that they need or the special attention they need because of the large class sizes. Um I'm uh uh and that's with the schools uh alone. The safety on Moon Lake Road is is bad. Uh I live on a cross street. And it's very difficult for me to pull onto my street Coronado Way,

   26:26which is just up the street from where they want to build the townhomes. We're always afraid someone's gonna back um hit us from the back when we're trying to turn in from either direction. Um, because people are going so fast. They're like pushing us. We blinker early, but it doesn't matter. We're still really scared. Um we there's a turn lane into Baywood Meadows. Um, but that's n uh we don't have one for four node away. Um And people will pass us on the right. Just to um And not

   26:56in it's very aggressive, I guess, to put it that way. The traffic on the link is very aggressive traffic. Um, let's see, there's been a number of accidents and deaths on Moon Lake Road. I'm concerned about the environmental impact. Um with the clearing and things like that. Um So those are my biggest concerns. And also the poor notice to the public with the signs. I understand they place it at the county buildings and they put it in the newspapers. Um, but the signs were very small. Um, they were placed on a curve. And

   27:26parallel with traffic, which wasn't really good no sign notice for the people out here. Um I think that's really about it. I don't know how long three minutes is.

   Denise

   27:39You have about thirty or so more seconds.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   27:42Pardon me? Yeah, thirty seconds. I have thirty seconds. Yeah, so I'm just hoping those these concerns be addressed. And um And just respect the environment out here. But I'm just really worried about the traffic on Moon Like as with everyone else that is out here who's about here. We're all worried about the tr more traffic on Moon Like World, which it can't take. So There you go. Those are my concerns in three minutes.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   28:11All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. We'll see if we can get you some answers. Um There were some questions about the school. Chris, do you have anything that any questions you have about that?

   Chris Williams

   28:24Sure. I can um Um talk about that. Um Barbara, can you remind me of the number of Town homes that are proposed for here.

   Barbara Wilhite

   28:37One hundred and sixty two. Okay. generate 13 elementary school students, six middle school students, and eight high school students.

   Chris Williams

   28:46Okay. So as far from a capacity standpoint, um These students will go to Moon Like Elementary. You probably have it in front of you too, Barbara. Um Sorry. Moon Lake Elementary is a little bit under capacity. River Ridge Middle is a little bit over, but with the um Starkey K8 that we're opening in a year from now. We would expect um River Ridge to be um Relieved of their overcrowding. And

   29:17then also River Ridge High School is currently under capacity. Um so with that few of a number of students being generated. Um we don't I don't have concerns with providing capacity for this particular project.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   29:35All right, great. Thank you very much. Bye. Um Anybody else on the board have questions? Oh,

   Chris Williams

   29:43Mr. Chairman? Yes. If I and if I may add, um, as far as class size, you know, obviously we have the class size amendment that we have to comply with. Um and that's um usually on a on a per school average basis. So um you know, if if more students come then um we're obligated to hire more teachers to um meet uh

   30:13the class size average across the school.

   30:19That's a concern. Is that what you're

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:21saying?

   Chris Williams

   30:22Well, I'm just saying that that that were mandated by law to to do that. So So let's say another 13 students show up at Moon Like Elementary School. Um, then we hire have to hire more staff in order to comply with the um class size amendment.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:43Okay,

   30:44okay.

   Michael J. Cox

   30:46No, no.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:47Yes.

   Michael J. Cox

   30:48Uh so this Michael Cox. Uh my question is to the staff. Does anybody know when Wind Lake Road is slated to be widened? I mean, we acquired the right-of-way for that road back when I was on the commission.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   31:07I'm not sure if there's somebody on staff that can answer that.

   Christina Costa

   31:12I believe Essen is on the line.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   31:18I want to see the column.

   Christina Costa

   31:20He I believe he's a call in.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   31:24Do we know what his uh prefix is? There you go to prefix.

   Denise

   31:29It should be 813.

   Michael J. Cox

   31:40I'm I'm hoping we can provide that answer. It might help um DVD.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   31:45I can I I think I know the answer until Essens gets on the line. The the County did do some interim safety improvements in Moon Lake Road, probably I wanna say a couple of years ago, um shortly after there was the major traffic accident on Moon Lake Road. Um, I don't believe the county ha other than those interim safety improvements, I do not believe the county has any plans to widen Moon Lake to four lanes in the next

   32:12probably next five to ten years. Um it would likely be on that time period. Part of the reason for that is because as you know a Ridge Road extension is currently under construction. And I think the county plans on the Ridge Road extension diverting a significant amount of traffic. Away from Moon Lake Road. So I think that's the reason why the the widening of of When Lake has been delayed. But Eston may be able to clarify more if he's On the line.

   32:44That's a dipole. It's a column to the

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   32:47test to the line. So I I

   Barbara Wilhite

   32:53I I can add to what David said, which was that safety improvement was in 2014 and it consisted of adding paved shoulders, resurfacing the roadway, adding audible vibratory uh pavement markings, restriping, and putting a turn lane at Moon Lake and Bestwood Avenue and um putting flashers like cur curb warning signs and the like. So it was a pretty significant safety improvement that David's referencing. I'm reading from a memo from 2014, but my understanding is the same as David's, which is the

   33:23four laning of Moon Lake was pushed off because of the priority of Ridge Road extension.

   Denise

   33:30And Essen's on the f on the call now, on the line.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   33:33Okay.

   33:41Hasan, are you there?

   33:45Can you hear me now?

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   33:51Right one three, uh I have an eight one three

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   33:55and an eight five oh

   Denise

   33:57Um yeah, eight one three should be. Um okay. We're having some technical difficulties having him on the call.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   34:06Well, I don't think his answer is going to be any different than my answer in Barbara's, just

   Michael J. Cox

   34:10to be honest. You've answered the question. That's fine. Okay. That's fine. Thank you.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   34:14Okay. Thank you. Thanks, David. Okay, um So We've heard from the uh I call her in and so Barbara what comments do you have in regard to that?

   Barbara Wilhite

   34:29Sure, and I have my technical team available too if you have any specific questions. But you know, as Mr. Poole asked the question, I think this is about access management and the turn lanes corn auto way, which which the caller has concern regarding does not have a protected left. So when you're turning left onto Corona Way, you're in the travel lane. I think that's why it's so important and was pointed out in our preliminary access management analysis that we need to have that protected bus. So our turn people turning into our townhome project will move out of the travel

   34:59lane and be in the the turn lane. The turn lane is going to be four hundred and fifty-five feet. um long, so sufficient to hold those cars and address that concern. We we don't went through timely and phasing analysis. Um, we'll be paying mobility fees. We um the land use is RED six. We haven't asked for a land use change. Usually townhomes come in around nine units per acre. We're at six units per acre. The site was previously approved for 304 rental apartments. You've heard about the PUD

   35:30and the expiration of the PUD. Um And so with that, we we have to obviously address environmental impact. We have permitting we have to go through listed species and wetlands and swift mud and those types of things. We did notice as required by county requirements, we actually had to send out letters twice because there was a glitch in the in how we described the rezoning because of the expiration of the PUD. So, but if you have any specific questions, I have a full team available that

   36:00can go into more detail.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   36:04This is Peter Hansville. Forty five acres. How many uh How many acres are gonna be impacted by the actual Homes, roads, et such.

   Barbara Wilhite

   36:14I can bring forward uh if you could bring forward Jeremy Kouch. He can he's our project engineer and I can see he's on somewhere here. So he can answer that question.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   36:24Jeremy, are you there? I I am here, Mr. Gray. Thank you. Uh I I believe it's approximately twenty-five acres of uplands.

   Denise

   36:34Jeremy, we need to swear you in first, please. So state your name and address for the record.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   36:38Thank you. Jeremy Couch, [address removed].

   Denise

   36:45Okay, the clerk will now swear you in.

   Clerk

   36:48Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give? Is the truth so help you God?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   36:53I do. All right. Thank you, Jeremy. Go ahead. Sir, uh it's approximately 25 acres of uplands. We're still going through our delineation with the Swift Mud at this time. Um but essentially The uplands are centered into the middle of the property and there is a wetland area on the north south. Yeah, east. that buffer the project um from the surrounding area. So it's it's a nice little enclave tucked into In the middle in the middle of this tract.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   37:24So it looks like about half of the property is gonna remain uh forested, right? Yes, sir, that's accurate. Okay. I think that was one of the questions that were But they call our hat. was the environmental part of it. So Okay.

   37:44Adding to that question. Peter, did you have a question?

   Chris Williams

   37:47It was the same viewers. They have 162 townhomes. Forty five point uh three. Tenths of an acre. I figured out. They could put 174 townhomes in there. So they're going less. Yeah. Your your question was basically the same as mine. But my my main concern is that's all that's going in here is the townhomes. I thought Ms. Whitley had mentioned something else about apartments. I have apartments on a note. Let it wrote down. Is

   38:17anything else going in this hundred forty five point oh three tenths of an acre?

   Barbara Wilhite

   38:23Yeah, so my reference was to the previous approval. Uh Mr Hansel previously the previous PUD approval would have allowed um three hundred and

   Chris Williams

   38:31Okay, thank you.

   Barbara Wilhite

   38:32For a rental apartment.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   38:33Okay, thank

   Chris Williams

   38:34you.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   38:36All right. Anybody else?

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   38:38Well, I just want to clarify this is a Euclidean zoning, so it doesn't necessarily Restrict the property to town homes. It's

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   38:47a multifamily zoning. Multifamily, yeah. In this case, I understand they're going to be attached. Right.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   38:54Yeah, I that's what the applicant proposed. I just didn't want you to think that was a binding commitment. Gotcha. Because it's a Euclidean zoning district. Okay, thank you.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   39:03All right. Any other questions from any board member?

   39:09All right. If not, uh We have a motion.

   Chris Williams

   39:14This is Peter Hans, so I'll make the motion to approve. Um Sorry, I don't have the number here.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   39:22PC four.

   Chris Williams

   39:24Yeah,

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   39:24PC four. Thank you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   39:26Johnny Girrari on second.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   39:29Okay, so we have a motion to approve PC four. With conditions and second. Um To be clear,

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   39:38PC Yeah, there's Mr. Chair, there are no conditions.

   39:43We don't understand.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   39:46So any further discussion? All in favor? Alcohol.

   Clerk

   39:54Jamie Girardi. Hi. Michael Cox.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   39:59Hi.

   Clerk

   40:01Peter Hansel?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   40:02Hi.

   Clerk

   40:04Roberto Saiz.

   Chris Williams

   40:07Aye.

   Clerk

   40:08Christopher Poole.

   Chris Williams

   40:10Bye.

   Clerk

   40:12Chris Williams.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   40:14Bye.

   Clerk

   40:16Chairman Charles Gray.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   40:17Aye.

2. 2Jun 16, 2020
   Board of County CommissionersP9Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

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3. 3Jun 30, 2020
   Board of County CommissionersP23Public hearingApproved

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   Approved Staff’s recommendation by roll call vote with Commissioner Oakley absent from the vote.

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   Madam Clerk

   1:30:44P twenty three, proof proof of publication, Tampa Bay Times, May twenty fourth, twenty twenty, and June twenty one, twenty twenty.

   Jack Mariano

   1:30:54Okay, two twenty three, go ahead.

   Christina Costa

   1:31:00And can we get someone to put the PowerPoint up for P23?

   1:31:06Thank you.

   1:31:08And could we start back just one more slide?

   1:31:13So PDD 20-7477 is uh rezoning in the name of FAMLC slash Moon Lake Acres is for rezoning from ER, estate residential district, to MF1, multiple family medium density district. Next slide.

   1:31:31Is located on the west side of Lake Road, approximately 1.25 miles south of State Road 52. Next slide, please.

   1:31:41It is uh the proposal is to rezone 45.03 acres from ER estate residential to MF1, multiple family medium density district, in order to develop the site with a maximum of 162 single-family attached townhomes. The surrounding area is characterized by a mix of single-family and multiple family uses. Next slide, please.

   1:32:04A little background on the subject. The site is part of an expired MPUD, the Bay Point, Baywood Meadows Fourth Point PUD Planning United Development. On August 9, 2005, the PUD Planning and Development Zoning District was repealed through ordinance number 05-32. And in accordance with the LDC section 5211, a PUD plan that expires shall cause the property to revert to the zoning district that existed prior to the rezoning of the PUD. And this subject parcel had a zoning of ER

   1:32:35estate residential district. The expired PC included entitlements for a mix of multifamily, attached single-family, and detached single-family dwellings. Next slide, please. Here's just a look at the surrounding zoning.

   1:32:51Next slide, please.

   1:32:54Our piece of photo site is res six. Next slide please.

   1:33:01And access to the site will be from Moon Lake Road. At the commission meeting, there was a little bit of concern over uh traffic on Moon Lake Road. And so we added one additional slide to the presentation. Next slide, please. Showing um the improvements that we made to Moon Lake Road. The widening is scheduled on the Pasco County Transportation CIP for school year 2026-27. Next slide, please. This comes to you with a recommendation

   1:33:31of approval and I'm here to answer any questions.

   Jack Mariano

   1:33:35Thank you. Do you have any questions on P three? Or is the applicant is I should ask two is also the applicants on the line.

   Christina Costa

   1:33:45The applicant is on the line. Barbara Will.

   Jack Mariano

   1:33:48Okay. Mr. Hyde, do you have anything to add before I go back to the board?

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:33:54Uh petitioners, I do not, unless there's some uh question or public uh comment, which I don't think there is, but I do have a team on board here. Um somewhere in the WebEx we uh world we live in.

   Jack Mariano

   1:34:06Okay, any questions from the the board? Any comments from the board? Seeing that I'll entertain a motion.

   Jack Mariano

   1:34:14Approval second.

   Jack Mariano

   1:34:16I have a second by Commissioner Mariano and I'm yes, a motion by Commissioner Mariano and a second by Commissioner Weightman Clerk, please call the roll.

   Madam Clerk

   1:34:24District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Weightman. District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District two, Chairman More.

   Jack Mariano

   1:34:33Aye, motion passes four zero. Thank you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:34:35Madam uh Mr. Chairman, Madam Clerk, just for the record, there was nobody signed up and there were no emails on this one as well, correct?

   Madam Clerk

   1:34:42Yes, sir, that's correct.

   Jack Mariano

   1:34:43Yeah. And