PDD-21-7516

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1. 1Feb 18, 2021
   Planning CommissionPC2Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) (Continuance) – Kiddie Campus University, … Agricultural-Residential District to a PO-1 Professional Office C-2 General Commercial District– South Central Pasco … Approximately 1.67 Acres (PC: 7/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR, BCC: 8/10/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC; Continued from BCC: 5/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/22/21, 02/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/1/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 3/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 3/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 02/18/21, 03/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting)

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   Denise

   24:16Following item, Mr. Chair, is PC two. PDD 217516 in the name of Kitty Campus University. It's a zoning amendment, change in zoning from AR1, Agricultural Residential District, to a C2 General Commercial District. There's a request for continuance to the March 4th, 2021 Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Dade City.

   Charles GreyChair

   24:40Okay. Uh and the is the applicant present.

   Denise

   24:44The applicant is virtually present and there is no one at the kiosk to speak on the item, nor have we received any emails or requests to read anything into the record for this item today.

   Charles GreyChair

   24:55Okay. So we have a motion to uh continue uh continue this item to At the March fourth meeting.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   25:03Jamie Girardi, I'll make a motion to continue to the March fourth meeting.

   Charles GreyChair

   25:08Second, Richard Tanillo. And we have a second. Any further discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion signified by roll call.

   Clerk

   25:19Jamie Girardi. Roberto Saez.

   Unidentified speaker

   25:25Bye.

   Clerk

   25:26Christopher Poole. Richard Tanello representing Chris Williams. Chairman Charles Gray.

2. 2Mar 4, 2021
   Planning CommissionP9Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) (Regular) – Kiddie Campus University, … Agricultural-Residential District to a PO-1 Professional Office C-2 General Commercial District– South Central Pasco … Approximately 1.67 Acres (PC: 7/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR, BCC: 8/10/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC; Continued from BCC: 5/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/1/21, 03/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 3/23/21, 03/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 3/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, Meeting; Continued from PC: 02/18/21, 2/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; p.m. NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting)

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3. 3Mar 23, 2021
   Board of County CommissionersP50Public hearingContinued

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) (Continuance) – Kiddie Campus University, … Agricultural-Residential District to a PO-1 Professional Office C-2 General Commercial District– South Central Pasco … Approximately 1.67 Acres (PC: 7/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR, BCC: 8/10/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC; Continued from BCC: 5/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/1/21, 03/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 3/23/21, 03/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 3/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, Meeting; Continued from PC: 02/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting)

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   Approved to continue the item to the May 18, 2021 BCC Meeting in New Port Richey at 1:30 p.m. by a roll call vote.

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   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:00So if you're on P fifty, I'm gonna move oh do you have to take public comment because I'm gonna move

   2:31:08The meeting after April twentieth.

   Ron OakleyChair

   2:31:10May fourth.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:11May fourth.

   Ron OakleyChair

   2:31:12Second.

   Christina Fitzpatrick

   2:31:12I keep it to May eighteenth so it's

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:14on this

   Christina Fitzpatrick

   2:31:14side of the country.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:14No, no, we have to have it on this side.

   Christina Fitzpatrick

   2:31:17Yeah. April twentieth and

   County Administrator

   2:31:19May

   Mike Moore

   2:31:20eighteenth.

   County Administrator

   2:31:20May fourth.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:23When's the next board meeting here? After April twentieth? Okay. Move to May eighteenth.

   Mike Moore

   2:31:31Eighteen second.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:31:33And those would be at one thirty soon thereafter.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:36Or soon

   Ron OakleyChair

   2:31:37thereafter. Or P

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:31:38fifty.

   Ron OakleyChair

   2:31:40Okay. By roll call vote.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:31:42I um I need to get the publication on the record. So item P 50 was published in Tampe Times on February 3rd, 2020. I will go ahead with roll call vote. District two, Commissioner Oakley. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Fitzpatrick. Aye. District five, Commissioner Mariano. All right. Perfect one, Chairman Oakley.

   Ron OakleyChair

   2:32:04Aye. Motion pass five zero.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:32:06Um m um Mr. Chairman M point of order. Um Because we have continued this w um and this is kind of for our county attorney and the folks outside, public comment has been taken on this. So Do we do public comment again?

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:32:24You're on the in this particular one I think you're gonna have to do public comment again because you've asked them to go talk about things and bring it back to you. So that you've gotta have but you've gotta have public comment. to hear what the sides agree to and if you're g if you're gonna hear that, it's gotta be a full p yeah public hearing.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:32:44Okay. Okay.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:32:44We're good. They can limit the amount of testimony to you, but I think you've got to it's gotta be open to the public. Unlike the one that's coming up later that it you were just at a vote.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   2:32:55Okay. Just wanted that clear.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:32:57Okay.

   Ron OakleyChair

   2:32:59Uh do you want to give us because we're now into zoning? You're precise.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:33:09Um resigning rezoning procedures. There are two rezoning agendas, regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition The application will be considered by the Board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given Five minutes for presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative. and

   2:33:40the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning, may at this time request the petition be pulled, From the consent agenda. in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and

   2:34:10whether or not you have been sworn for the record. These are quasi-judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the Board's Land Development Code. Okay. Thanks,

   Christina Fitzpatrick

   2:34:29sir.

4. 4Apr 1, 2021
   Planning CommissionPC2Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) (Continuance) – Kiddie Campus University, … Agricultural-Residential District to a PO-1 Professional Office C-2 General Commercial District– South Central Pasco … Approximately 1.67 Acres (PC: 7/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR, BCC: 8/10/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC; Continued from BCC: 5/18/21, 4/1/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/22/21, BCC: 5/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, Meeting; Continued from PC: 4/1/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 3/23/21, 02/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; p.m. NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, … DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 02/18/21, and BCC 3/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting)

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   Denise

   6:35Item PC two is PDD twenty-one seven five one six for Kitty Campus University Inc. for a change in zoning from AR one agricultural residential district to a C two General Commercial District. It's a request from the applicant to continue the item to the April 22nd, 2021 Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie.

   Charles GreyChair

   6:55Okay. And is the applicant present?

   Denise

   6:58The applicant is virtually present.

   Charles GreyChair

   7:00Anyone here to object?

   Denise

   7:01We have no one that's signed up to object on the item on the actual continuance request for the item, nor we do do we have a letter um in opposition to the continuance request.

   Charles GreyChair

   7:11Okay. Great. So uh do I have a motion to approve the continuance?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   7:18Jamie's already so moved.

   Charles GreyChair

   7:22No second. Second. Chris Williams. All right. Any further discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion should signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Motion carried.

5. 5Apr 22, 2021
   Planning CommissionP6Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) (Regular) – Kiddie Campus University, … Agricultural-Residential District to a PO-1 Professional Office C-2 General Commercial District– South Central Pasco … Approximately 1.67 Acres (PC: 7/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR, BCC: 8/10/21, 4/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC; Continued from NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 5/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, Meeting; Continued from PC: 4/22/21, 02/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; p.m. NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/1/21, 3/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 3/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 3/4/21, 4/1/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 02/18/21, and BCC 3/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting)

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6. 6Jul 22, 2021
   Planning CommissionPC8Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) – … p.m.; DC; Continued from BCC: 5/18/21, PC: 4/22/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/22/21, BCC: 5/18/21, 1:30 p.m.; PC: 02/18/21, 1:30 p.m. NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 4/1/21, 3/4/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 3/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 3/4/21, 4/1/21, 1:30 p.m.; DC Hybrid Virtual Meeting, PC: 02/18/21, and BCC 3/23/21, 1:30 p.m.; NPR Hybrid Virtual Meeting)

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   Liam Devine

   1:14:03Liam Devine, Planning and Development, Adendum Item PC eight. Um PDD 21-7516 in the name of Kitty Campus University Inc. It is a zoning amendment from AR1, Agricultural Residential District, to PO1 Professional Office District. The subject site is located in the southwest corner of the intersection of State Road 54 and Meadowbrook Drive.

   1:14:30The subject site is currently undeveloped and contains approximately 1.67 acres. The owner/slash applicant proposed to develop the site in conformance with the PO1 professional office district standards for development. On April 20th, 2021, the Board of County Commissioners denied a comprehensive plan amendment from Res 3, residential three dwelling units per acre, to commercial for the subject site. A companion rezoning application to C two General Commercial District had been filed.

   1:15:02On April 22nd, 2021, and May 18th, 2021, the Planning Commission and Board of County Commissioners continued the rezoning to a date uncertain.

   1:15:12On june seventh, twenty twenty one, the application the applicant amended the rezoning application from C two General Commercial commercial district to PO one professional office district. The subject site was reviewed by Long Range Planning Division and found to meet the location criteria for comprehensive plan policy flu 1.6.5, which provides criteria to permit the location of office development within residential flues. This is a look at the surrounding

   1:15:42zoning. To the north is AR-1 and an MPUD, Sapphire Hills M Pud. To the east, south and west is AR-1. You'll also note on that one that there is already existing PO1 zoning to the west.

   1:15:59And then next slide. And then this is a look at the future land use. To the north is Res 3 and EC, and to the east, south, and west is Res 3.

   1:16:13This is a look from the access. As stated before, there's an MPUD, Zephyr Village MPUD, that is to the northeast of it. There's already professional offices located Caddy Corner to the subject site. And this is coming with a recommendation of approval.

   1:16:30Okay. Well any uh Questions for Will.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:16:39No?

   1:16:43Barbara?

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:16:51Good afternoon again. Good to see you all. So you'll recall that we brought this matter to you all sitting as the LPA for a comp plan change a few months back. Um after we left the planning commission with a recommendation of approval of the of a commercial land use for ultimately what the application was for a C two zoning we went to the Board of County Commissioners. A lot of opposition to commercial um development and specifically C two. um that the client was seeking

   1:17:21at that time. In reaction to the board not wanting to ha see commercial uses at that location. We have amended our application for office. We heard over and over and over in both public hearing that office would be compatible, commercial would not. I think there was a recognition that this property is with is on State Road fifty four at a inters signalized intersection and that it was not appropriate for residential use. And so we took

   1:17:51the rezoning, we went for we applied, excuse me, for the least intense rezoning district. We didn't go for PO two, we went for PO one. As you would call the neighbor said, What's nice about office is It's occupied during the day. It's not occupied at night, generally speaking, or on the weekends. So we have um followed the direction um and and brought came in with PO1. It's actually the best result. If my client doesn't

   1:18:21isn't able to move forward, you'll have somebody else in here wanting to do C1, PO2, and at least this brings to closure the use and office use at this location. Because it's not going to be residential. And it's also consistent with the office use that was approved by the board to the west a couple lots down. Uh we have our team here and uh if there's any specific questions, but let's hear what the neighbors have to say. Okay. Thank you.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:18:49Thank you, Margaret.

   1:18:53So is there anybody here to speak in opposition?

   Denise

   1:19:00Mr. Chair, I do also want to mention that there is a gentleman that signed up on WebEx as well to speak on this item.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:19:07Okay. Let's take the people that are in present first.

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:19:20Hello, my name is Jennifer Robertson. I reside at one seven two four five Riverstone Drive. Lutz, Florida, three three, five, five, eight. Um I don't object to it only because I know something will go there. Um, I do wanna point out that The second lot is well within our neighborhood. So I do want to recommend that um We have an input on

   1:19:51the design of what goes in there and the um landscaping. There is a ditch that abuts that property. We've talked over and over and over about the um flooding from that. And the uh The last storm just shows that there is a problem. I realize that that problem is coming from Um Ballantry. They do need to reconfigure the boxes

   1:20:21and slow down the water. Because it's not safe. If someone's walking from like leaving our neighborhood to Go to the sidewalk or whatever. they will get washed off the road if if we're within that s you know, floodwater situation. because the current is hard enough to push a small car. So um I don't know what anyone can do to um try and

   1:20:51slow down that prop the water that's coming from Ballantre. 'Cause it is definitely coming from Ballantry. Um I know it's not his problem. but also the water coming from State Road 54 will come down the side of his property. So he's gonna need to mitigate that water to where it slows it down. Um maybe he can get the um DOT or whatever to try and contain their own water, which

   1:21:22is the proper way to do it. Um But there is a neighbor um in the cul-de-sac uh that you see kind of coming up the side of his property. that his garage was flooded. So we do need to make sure that the water is mitigated on his property and we do want something that looks nice for our neighborhood since it's within our neighborhood.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:21:49Okay. Those those items that you're talking about, they'll be addressed at site plan approval.

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:21:54Right.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:21:54I just

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:21:55wanted to make sure

   Charles GreyChair

   1:21:56it

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:21:56goes on record

   Charles GreyChair

   1:21:57that we want that. I can assure you that it it will be required for them to mitigate that. that uh water runoff they won't be able to create additional runoff onto your property.

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:22:07Okay.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:08And uh So you can be you can be feel comfortable with that.

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:22:12Oh

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:12in terms of the other things you can Yeah, you can have some input at uh at site plan review.

   Jennifer Robertson

   1:22:17Okay, great. All right, thank you.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:20Thank you. Any other questions? Nope. Okay.

   1:22:32No one else?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:22:35Online.

   Denise

   1:22:37Mr. Grant who's on WebEx.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:39Oh okay. Barbara you want to hold on there? Yeah. Okay, uh Mr. Grant. Yes, thank you. My

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:22:48name is Douglas Grant at [address removed] in Luther, Florida. As you heard, the subject property is two separate lots.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:56Mr. Grant, excuse me. Yes. Uh I don't know I doubt that you'd been sworn, have you? Have you been sworn?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:23:05I was present during I yeah, I heard the initial swearing but I will be happy to swear again.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:23:11Yeah, because I don't think I heard your voice.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:23:15Okay, I was mooted at the time. So yes, please, let's let's do it. That doesn't help you before now mooded. Okay.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:23:21Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God?

   Charles GreyChair

   1:23:26Yes, I do. All right, thank you very much. Go ahead.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:23:31Okay. As you heard, the subject property is two separate lots. Both the lots are within Meadowbrook Estates. There's a northern lot at State Road 54 and a southern lot which is surrounded by agricultural residential properties with single family homes. I conditionally object to the proposed rezoning because the applicant includes the southern lot in their request for rezoning. Commercial use at the Southern Lot is an intrusion into

   1:24:01the existing AR community. A county policy prohibits this condition. I refer to policy one point six point four that states Quote, New Neighborhood commercial uses shall not be located internally within existing family neighborhoods. The county includes offices in the definition of commercial use in the Comp Plan, and the southern lot is definitely internal to our neighborhood. Also, I'm concerned that commercial development on the southern

   1:24:31lot will set a precedent to develop any lots in Meadowbrook estates that has the same offset from State Route 54. And regarding that precedent You don't need to look any further than the County's own pre application comments dated July first. where the county attempts to justify this rezoning by improperly citing an outdated, temporary and terminated special exemption that once applied to a space inside a neighboring home, as

   1:25:02if that special exemption is comparable to this land rezoning. Also, commercial developer approached my neighbor, whose home is located two lots from State Road 54. Developers appear to be expecting rezoning deep into our neighborhood. And we're requesting that you honor this 1970s era community going forward. The county and developers have plenty of other land for commercial development, much larger than what we've done. point six acres that

   1:25:32aren't among homes. Now I said earlier my objection is conditional. I might change my opinion if the southern lot is removed from the request or or rezoning or the developer voluntarily restricts the development as follows. Limit the layout so building structures are on the northern portion of the combined lots and use the southern portion for stormwater controls like a retention pond or detention pond. The architecture of a building Meshes with the residential community. There are more robust

   1:26:02setbacks and buffers compared with the minimum setback and buffers allowed for the requested zoning. No special exemption for a daycare, and there is a ban on tenants that generate pollutants. And most importantly, we seek a mandate from the county that the landowner developer must coordinate development with a coalition of Meadowbrook Estates owners. Yeah. So the county and the developer and the homeowners can have assurances that every step of the development isn't combative. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:26:32Thank you.

   1:26:34Okay. Barbara?

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:26:39Thank you again. So the policies that are cited are relating to commercial development. You heard commercial development, commercial development, commercial development. We are seeking low-intensity office. Um we will be a good neighbor. We've worked with the neighbors before. Um Ms. Honeywell and I were just discussing, you know, she did not get up here and object to continue to work together. Um we'd ask for your support on the PO1 zoning. Thank you.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:27:04All right. Are there any questions for Barbara? That's why I Demeterry? No.

   1:27:12Oh Terry, I'm sorry, I didn't see

   Unidentified speakerVoice E

   1:27:14you. Uh just to follow up on some of the In order to understand the comprehensive plan, the policies in player here would be 165, not 164. Flu policy flu 165, not policy flu 164. Policy flu 165 is office. And so this would this would Uh a rezoning to the to the professional office zoning district would um follow the office policies of the comprehensive plan. Um Uh one thing to note that I'm not sure

   1:27:44it has been noted previously is that the special exception that was approved Uh back in two thousand I forget the date. Two thousand eleven. Um

   1:27:57Is it is an important consideration when you're when when I'm thinking about the the intrusion question, because in order to find the special except exception Uh in order to approve a special exception, you have to find it consistent with the comprehensive plan. The extent of this property is directly across the street to the extent where the previous special exception was approved. So it it's already been found in the past at least that there is uh a consistency with the comprehensive plan

   1:28:27to have such a use. come into uh the neighborhood up to the uh The creek there.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:28:34All right, Harry. Thanks for that clarification. That's good. That information. Okay. Um Any questions?

   1:28:44Any uh I hear a motion. So moved. Have a motion to approve? I'll second it. We have a second. Any further discussion of the motion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye opposed, like sign. Okay, motion carries.

   1:29:10Okay.

   1:29:13Let's see. We're in eleven now.

   Denise

   1:29:19Just a moment, Mr. Chairman.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:29:24It's PC eleven, it's item twelve.

7. 7Aug 10, 2021
   Board of County CommissionersP120Public hearingApproved

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   Approved Staff’s recommendation.

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   Denise

   18:51Mr. Chairman P one twenty, if we can pull that from consent, there are folks here to speak on that item. Um it should have been on regular

   19:02And if I can move on to one twenty P one twenty one, if that's okay with you.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   19:08Item P121 was published in the Tampa Times on June 30th, 2021.

   Denise

   19:16Should you do public hearing procedures or because they're on consent you want to just do it for the last one or?

   Ron OakleyChair

   19:22Um we can do public hearing procedures. Okay. If I

   Ron OakleyChair

   19:29could

   19:29frame them up.

   Ron OakleyChair

   19:38There are two rezoning agendas, regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If the staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, The applicant will be given five minutes for presentation, the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual, or five minutes for a group representative. and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing

   20:09with staff or planning a commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda, in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be proved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi-judicial public hearing. Law in Florida is that mere

   20:39public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the Board's Land Development Code.

   20:50Okay.

   Ron OakleyChair

   20:55Page w page one twenty one. Uh do you

   Denise

   21:00want to do a swearing in? Just

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   21:01in case?

   Ron OakleyChair

   21:01Okay, swearing in.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   21:03Anyone here to speak to the remaining items on the agenda, please stand up and raise your right hands.

   21:11Okay. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Thank you.

   Ron OakleyChair

   21:21Okay. P121.

   Denise

   21:24PDD 217544, it's a zoning amendment, the name of Cole Trust, Jeffrey A. Cole, Trustee, Dollar General 301 in Payne, for a change in zoning from an R1MH single-family mobile home district to a C2 General Commercial District. Comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning Commission and the Planning and Development Department.

   Ron OakleyChair

   21:42Is there anyone here to speak against this item?

   21:46Seeing no one, let it remain on consent. P one twenty two.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   21:51Item P one twenty two was published in the Tampa Times on june thirtieth, twenty twenty-one.

   Denise

   21:56PD D twenty one seven five four four four four four five zoning amendment in the name of Helen Cuoco, change in zoning from an R two low density residential district to a C two general commercial district comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission.

   Ron OakleyChair

   22:10Is there anyone here to speak against this item? See a no one or let it remain on consent. P one twenty three.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   22:20Item P123 was published on the Tampa Times on May 26, 2021.

   Denise

   22:25PDD 21 CU 34. This is a conditional use for the District School Board of Pasco County Vertex Development LLC, Vertex Wireless for 150 foot above ground level, close mount wireless communications facility and an MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District. Comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as contained in your agenda packet from the Planning Commission and the Planning and Development Department.

   Ron OakleyChair

   22:46Okay, does anyone here to speak against this item? Seeing no one, let it remain on consent and entertain a motion for the consent items.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   22:58Uh Mr. Chair, just for the record, um I want to state that.

   23:03So on the items uh P 121, 122, and 123, there was no one pre-registered on WebX. Okay. Thank you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   23:13Cool.

   Ron OakleyChair

   23:14And you have proof approved for all those? And proof for all the years.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   23:18I did. I was like, Okay, yeah, she had that. Sorry.

   Ron OakleyChair

   23:22All right, right, and a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed like sign. Okay. Motion passed 4-0. Go back to the regular item is uh one

   Denise

   23:33twenty. Someone can uh load the agenda the uh PowerPoint please on that item. I'll

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   23:38say the proof while we're waiting for the M.

   Denise

   23:40Oh thank you so much. I appreciate that.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   23:42Item P one twenty was published in the Tampa Times on June thirtieth, twenty twenty one. Yeah.

   Denise

   23:47On this item, PDD 217516, this is for Kitty Campus University Inc., it's for a change in zoning from AR1 to a P01. If you would move to the next slide, please. The parcel is located on the southwest corner of the intersection of State Route 54 and Meadowbrook Drive.

   24:06And um the property is is 1.67 acres. They propose to develop the um property with PO1 district. standards for development. If this looks familiar, it's because this item came to the board with a comp plan amendment to COM, which was denied on April 20th, 2021. Um and a companion rezoning had been filed at that time for C two General Commercial District. If you would move on to the next one.

   24:34On April 22nd, 2021, and May 18th, the Planning Commission and the Board of County Commissioners had continued the rezoning to a date uncertain. And on June 7th, the applicant amended the application from C2 to P01. So this is a request for P01. It was reviewed by the Long Range Planning Division and it was found to meet the locational criteria in the Comprehensive Plan, Future Land Use 1.6.5, which provides criteria to permit the location of office development within a residential future land use. This location is a Res 3

   25:04future land use. Also, I do want to mention that just today, this is was not presented to the Planning Commission, but just the today the applicant has submitted that they voluntarily agreed a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction, which I'm going to ask the board to please receive and move to receive and file. that it they agreed to limit the building height to a maximum of two stories. So as you know this area is located in an urban service area and without this particular deed restriction

   25:35they would be able to have a no building, there's no building height. So um I do want that to be re received and filed, the uh the proposed deed restriction. The re deed restriction reads as follows. The following restriction is hereby imposed on the property for the benefit of the county unless otherwise approved by the county in connection with any subsequent rezoning of the property. Building height, two stories maximum. So would you please receive and file that deed restriction?

   Ron OakleyChair

   26:04I need a motion to receive and file.

   Denise

   26:05So mo

   Christina Fitzpatrick

   26:06motion to receive and file, second.

   Ron OakleyChair

   26:08All right, I got a motion and a second. All all in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. So by way of

   Denise

   26:15the way of background, um the subject location is zoned AR1, which is an agricultural residential district, one acre minimum lot sizes. Um if you look uh Caddy Corner across the street where you see the MPUD and you kind of look see like building shapes, uh that is the the Suncoast Meadows MPUD and that specific area was approved by the Board of County Commissioners in 2002 for professional office use specifically for PO2, which is a step up from PO1, which is what these the

   26:46current applicant is requesting. Additionally, if you look at three doors down to the west where you can see kind of the PO1, the Board of County Commissioners in 2018 approved a rezoning from AR1 to PO1 for that specific parcel as well. If you move on to the following slide, please. So the existing future land use as you can see is thro Res 3, which is also the future land use for the parcel that I explained to you in Sun Coast in Suncoast Meadows.

   27:16And the parcel that's uh two doors or three doors to the west uh that received a similar zoning classification or designation rather than this one. Would you move on to the next parcel? I mean the next slide. It just shows the aerial of the property and the access. And the next slide, please. And this comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission, with the exception of course just to make it very clear that the Planning Commission did

   27:46not see uh the uh the proposed um deed restriction. And I'm here for any questions you may have.

   Ron OakleyChair

   27:55Okay. Uh African more speed.

   Barbara Wilhite

   28:06I have a really quick PowerPoint. Um if staff could bring that up please. Good afternoon. Great to see you all in person. 63 Barbara Wilhite, 6327, Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey, Florida, 34652. Happy to be back here with uh

   Ron OakleyChair

   28:23And you've been sworn?

   Barbara Wilhite

   28:24I was sworn, yes. In person. I didn't have to stand in my kitchen.

   28:31Glad to be back here presenting this rezoning to you with staff with their recommendation of approval and planning commissions, unanimous recommendation of approval. We heard the board's concerns, we heard the neighbors' concerns, and we amended our application to P O one. It's the lowest intensity non-residential use in your code. We also left the comp plan at res three and that also is significant because that limits the maximum floor area ratio, limits the intensity on this parcel. If we would have

   29:01changed it to com for an office use. The flora ratio is Double. of of what it is as a res three. So we very Strategically and purposely Limited the intensity both through the comp plan and through the zoning district we chose to amend our application to to have the least amount of of um density. Um excuse me, intensity. As you know, this parcel is at the corner of a major arterial road intersection, light lit intersection.

   29:31It's not gonna be non-residential. I mean excuse me, it's not gonna be residential. So this is the this is the solution um next slide.

   29:44I did want to show you how this fits very well. The purpose of P O One says P O one office district is i is designed to be compatible with residentially developed districts and enhanced land use development along county major highways and roads. I couldn't have written that to fit this situation. um any better. Uh so I wanted to show that to you in your zoning code. Next slide.

   30:10These are the permitted uses in PO one. They're all office uses. The difference between PO one and PO two, PO two allows retail type. It allows a hair salon, nail salon, massage, personal services are allowed in PO two. And so we didn't want to bring forward anything that had anything commercial or retail oriented. Um So we we are are coming forward with the P O one. Next slide.

   30:41These are the setbacks. Again, your code already sets up what the appropriate setbacks are from residential, your code, and these are what they are. We will meet those at a minimum. Next slide. These are your required landscape buffers. We will meet them at a minimum. I would point out on the south side, um not only do we have the requirement for a type ten foot buffer, um as well as a setback requirement, but there's also 30 feet there. You have a county parcel that intervenes that's 30 feet wide. So there'll be quite

   31:11a distance on the south side. I did want to explain to you the deed restriction. listen very carefully at Planning Commission, listened to the concerns, looked at the P O one district and what um your zoning minister explained, Denise explained, is that in the P O one district height In the urban service area there is no height. So I could see the residents' concern. So we continue to work with Ms. Honeywell and her group throughout this process. My clients worked

   31:41closely with them and my client agreed with her to do the two no more than two stories. And so we brought forth a deed restriction to reflect that agreement that they reached on that. Next slide.

   31:56This aga this is the south side. Um this is an area where you could You'll see that This how it's how it looks. This is a thirty foot parcel for your creek and then our parcels to the north. The distance between our parcel and the home there to the south is over a hundred feet, about a hundred feet. Um next slide.

   32:15Next slide. So this is the professional center to the north. east that Denise told you about. I drove by it the other day. I was um in the area, kind of just driving around looking at uh looking at some of the projects that have gone in. And this is how your code applies with PO PO two actually here in relative to um relative to houses and how they do coexist. Um Next slide. This

   32:47is another example. Next slide. You can see this is the the Trinity Oaks Professional Center over in Trinity. We've got professional office on one side and you have homes on the other side. They exist very nicely together, they complement each other. I actually lived in this neighborhood for a while when I was in between in between uh houses. And uh the setbacks are much uh smaller um for the homes here. The homes are much closer to the road than the homes in Meadowbrook. So I think you'll have it'll

   33:17be a nice fit for the P O one. Next slide. Just another ex picture of how that looks in Trinity and then the next slide. all the same, the area, um, and you can see they those uses complement each other very nice. With that, um we're available to answer any questions, but um we'd appreciate your support. Thank you.

   Mike Moore

   33:41Um no.

   33:43Okay.

   Ron OakleyChair

   33:48Okay, um Yeah. Do we have anyone signed up? Who was that?

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   33:53We do. We have three um three uh people signed up in person and we have two that are on Wipex.

   Ron OakleyChair

   34:01Okay. Let's start with the first one in person here.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   34:04All right. Miss Sharon Honeywell Johnson. If you would please um approach the podium, state your name and address for the record and also whether you've been sworn.

   Sharon Honeywell Johnson

   34:18Good morning commissioners. My name is Sheryl Honeywell Johnson, address [address removed], and yes, I have been sworn. So we were very strongly opposing the commercial. Not that any of us in the neighborhood really want to see it developed, but I do know that we have been talking with Paul as well as you know with Barbara that something is going to be going into this neighborhood. Um And I know there's gonna be other people that will be speaking as well, but as long as I mean they did bring it down to two

   34:48stories and as far as times and so forth, so at this point I think As far as we're concerned, we will be working along with them, but it's really gonna be up to you. Thank you.

   Ron OakleyChair

   35:00Yeah, thank you for comments.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   35:03Next is Jennifer Robins Robertson.

   Jennifer Robertson

   35:15Um my name's Jennifer Robertson, [address removed]. Um like Sharon said, oh I was sworn in, thank you. Like Sharon said, I w I don't oppose it only because I feel like he will work with us. Um I do wanna make a couple of corrections though. The one that she said P O two that's across the street? Um that was not P O two, that was a special exception for A

   35:45realtor who only could have minimal customers you know, there was a whole deed restriction with it, so Um that's not correct. Also the ditch in the back. That's not a hundred feet. One of the the last meetings Um there was a Pregnant person that was here and she and her husband went out there and measured the ditch and it was eighteen feet across. I think there's the county

   36:16has I wanna say thirty feet. Yeah, thirty feet. So, you know I just want to make sure that The picture they have is dry. Right now it's very, very full. Um the problem is That ditch runs along um And on the next street over, which I think there's some people opposing online. Um the water runs through

   36:46and the county I've tried to talk with before about Clearing the way so that the the water will flow. Um, it backs up and it's covered our road just recently. Um and it's because there's a cattle gate on Brookside Drive. the they'll clean all the way up to the cattle gate and then it it goes from eight feet to two feet. And that's there's a water flow problem. So I do want that

   37:16entered in there. Um I know Paul has talked about and I know that they have to keep their own water on their own property, so Um I know it's not his problem, but I do want to point it out. Okay,

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   37:30thank you.

   Ron OakleyChair

   37:31Thank you.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   37:33And the last person signed up, I'm gonna apologize now 'cause I don't know if I'm gonna um spell pronounce your last name correctly, Judy Zitflawsic. Florsik, thank you.

   Judy Zitflawsic

   37:45Hi. Judy Floresek, [address removed]. I'm not opposed or against sworn.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   37:54Sorry. Have you been sworn? Oh. You have to state for the record if you've been sworn or not.

   Judy Zitflawsic

   37:58Oh, I've been sworn. Thank you. Sorry. I'm not opposed or against against or for the the rezoning. I I'm kind of neutral on. I'm a newcomer to the area but uh what I wanna do do want to say to you guys is Uh I've enjoyed the expansive growth of Pasco County. I've witnessed it. It's amazing. You guys are doing a phenomenal job. There's an I know there's a lot of thought that goes into the planning and development of what's going on in this county and i it's amazing. It's

   38:29notable. It's it's even national news. So it's wonderful. Thank you for that. So I guess What I'm observing is in the new development, the residential neighborhoods. The the entrances are are big, they're expansive, the the developments, the residences are set back off the road. The commercial development in the on the road in front is well thought, thought about and and executed. It's amazing. That's

   38:59today. What I'm I'm trying to get my arms wrapped around is the idea that we are trying to change something in front of a neighborhood that was established in the late seventies. So Back then, when the Dais was different with you know other people who were probably putting as much thought and effort into the development of the county at that point in time, they approved Meadowbrook Estates

   39:29for what it is today, and it didn't include the way things are today. So I'm not opposed to change. I'm just I'm just saying that. Just because something can change, it doesn't mean that it should. So if you look at the entrance to Meadowbrook, it doesn't look anything like what's being established new today with these wonderful commercial establishments in front of them. That's great. But I'm worried I'm a little worried about the safety pulling on and off a skinny long parcel that

   40:00we're trying in, I'll use my words. Cuarn.

   40:05commercial property onto that could number one I we've you've heard it before the aquifer issue is one thing the flooding the storm drains is another um the the noise that it would cause in the neighborhood. I guess what I'm asking here is that again I'm not opposed to change. I'm just asking for your thoughtful appreciation

   40:32neighborhood fifty years ago. and not try and make it into something it was never meant to be. Um I'm I'm asking for your thoughtful consideration in whatever you guys decide so that it doesn't negatively impact the residents of Meadowbrook, especially the ones that are going to adjoin whatever future development happens on fifty four our our property values, our you know the stormwater. the the safety of the the traffic on that

   41:02road. Thank you.

   Mike Moore

   41:05Thank you. Why does that keep happening?

   Unidentified speakerVoice G

   41:07They're

   Judy Zitflawsic

   41:08doing the timeline.

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:08They're doing the timer from the Newport. Oh,

   Mike Moore

   41:11from Newport Ritchie? Yes.

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:14I finally figured it out. Sterry. So are you is he signed up for speaking? He's not

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   41:21signed up.

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:22Oh he did take

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:23public comment. So have you

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:24been a share?

   Unidentified speakerVoice H

   41:25Good afternoon. Um my name's Dan Winner. I live at [address removed].

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   41:34Have you been sworn in?

   Unidentified speakerVoice H

   41:35No.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   41:36Okay, let me go ahead and do that. Okay. Do you swear?

   Unidentified speakerVoice H

   41:39Glaciers are flooding and trapped.

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:40No, you need to be sworn before you're fine.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   41:43Just give me one second. Um do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God.

   Unidentified speakerVoice H

   41:51I do. All right, my my concerns are flooding and traffic. Okay, what does zoning change? Um actually only excess out of our uh neighborhood to the north. The only other way is to the south of Sierra Pines Boulevard. Traffic on 54 right now is pretty bad. I'm I'm sure you're aware of it. And I think that this strip of land that they're talking about is Long and narrow. that picture of a creek that I saw up

   42:21there. Uh with the wooden fence or the white fence, I should say, to win uh That creek is up to that fence right now. Um, I'm just concerned where all this water's gonna go. And traffic is also gonna be an issue there. As I said, it's our only exit out of the back. What to the north. So I oppose

   42:45I opposed the zoning change. Uh vote with your heart, vote for the two hundred and some homes that are back there. That are gonna be locked in. It's gonna be a mess. So that's all I got to say. Okay, thank you.

   Ron OakleyChair

   43:01Okay, thank you. And we have two people sign up on WebEx?

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   43:06Yes, and a a third I think is uh trying to connect. So we can take the um two that are on WebEx now.

   Double Scram

   43:13Okay

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   43:14Okay. Um Let's see, yeah. My first person that is signed up on WebEx is Douglas Grant.

   Double Scram

   43:26Not any scorn in

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   43:28it. Okay. If you would please raise your right hand, do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give? Is it the truth so help you, God?

   43:37Great. Um if you could state your name and address for the record, sir.

   Double Scram

   43:41My name is Double Scram and I went at [address removed]. Next slide. Mega fly, please.

   43:53I object to the reasoning because the property is not a good idea.

   44:00Policy states that development can't be an intrusion into any residential area. Intrusion means the site cannot be located between two residential uses. Unless also separated by a collector room. There is no collector room. Next slide.

   44:20campus parking are two separate lots, not one lot, as that print lies. There's a north lot and a distinct south lot. Next slide.

   44:34separated between the development and neighboring residential uses.

   44:47only residential traffic. It's relatively short, only a half mile, and has high access for running traffic. It's line like to go down my house. Next slide.

   45:18Wait, isn't it a liar? Now obviously creek is on the collector. Next slide.

   45:25Already.

   45:41single family helpers.

   45:45Next slide.

   Unidentified speakerVoice G

   45:56That's fine. Yeah, good time.

   Double Scram

   46:00The upgrade once the developer will remove all vegetation. Any more. Yeah.

   46:08can have you provided the design for the album's commerce. Therefore, BCC must assume what I just pay.

   46:27Next slide. Neither the north nor south blocks all fly for rezoning exophice because of intrusion.

   46:41Which is part of the reason the board protected the applicant's previous cop funding amendment requests. Intrusion then, intrusion now. There is no other P01 development on streetway 54 that's an intrusion into residential development. Needless to say, the county shouldn't start disregarding its own policy. We respect your policy and alligations above that one. Thank you.

   Ron OakleyChair

   47:01All right, thank you. Next.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   47:05Yes, we have Terry Grant is next.

   47:12Bit shorthand. Okay, if you could please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God.

   47:22Thank you. Please state your name and address and then you can proceed.

   Unidentified speakerVoice I

   47:25I'm Terry Rains, I resigned at [address removed]. Next slide.

   47:36I object to resolution with 2K transfer floods for office development. My objections are based on a pass-control policy that prohibits office development and intriguing to make residential neighborhood. An office complex was established by flooding and surrounding property industry. Also, this information the applicant and John staff provided to support the policy during the previous hearing. Next slide. And then the focus date has one up as complex the two parcels, one presumably. Consultant

   48:06who's kind of a medical president suggesting an office building instead of a gas station. That's one voice. So it's misleading when the applicant claims all medical come over to me. The applicant in the county show the puppy is one lot. That's off. There are two separate lots, which is important because they don't qualify for rezoning that's office under fleet policy 1.615, especially the SNAP lot. Next slide. The applicant of County Wyoming property three lots west to justify the zone low Q campus lots. That's in

   48:36Mountain. The upper lot is Mount 1,000 feet plus a G campus one for next to a commercial lot, a storage warehouse, which has several lot west of G campus out. So two lots don't match those conditions because they're surrounded by a hay bar off. An office would definitely be an intrusion into your line. the Metro community. Next slide. Intrusion on the left slide would look like this slide to justify reserving the key campus lots because the county is usable tributary as a boundary for development. Next slide. By the way, the

   49:07tributary flows to protect the wetland and that's why it's our neighborhood recovered by the learning water development at its bank. Next slide regarding that storage complex. The county development originally assured us that we developed a two-story class A office building with Metaphyding or UK and activity. Thus I have doubts that the key campus rezoning will result in construction element office complex because of the big and switch tactics afforded to developers. Next slide.

   49:41House and office. The property was not rezoning, and yet the applicant can continue to use that expired retention as they fought present with the rezoning. Next slide. Applicant claims that the chain campus lots are not suitable for agriculture. That's in the because the south lot is surrounded by AR with land single family house. Someone can build a nice family home there. Other properties and then built the states along that same phone. Distance from State Boat 54 or Auth. Kitty Campus may label find AM property

   50:12and subject of help for that's purchasing the land from Kitty Campus. Next slide. Please vote May to any resilience of the Kitty Campus Rice. Please preserve the integrity of this unique and beloved neighborhood. Thank you for your time and consideration.

   Ron OakleyChair

   50:28Thank you.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   50:31And the last person who has registered and is online with WebEx is Michael Tompkins.

   50:41Mr. Tompkins. Are you there?

   50:45We can hear you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice G

   50:48Okay, I'm sorry, I was totally prepared out there now.

   50:57Are you um I have this

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   50:59one and I

   50:59wouldn't

   51:00have to do that. Okay, if you would please

   51:03If you please if you would please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Thank you. You can proceed by uh first stating your name and address and then your comments.

   Unidentified speakerVoice G

   51:17Yeah, Michael Tompins and a 245 broad site.

   51:34Right for

   51:49Um the continued might be the starship, it was probably not a one occurred.

   52:16Mm-hmm. Oh.

   52:20Take a little water like everything else when I went.

   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   53:02And that's it for WebX, yes.

   Ron OakleyChair

   53:05No one else. Is that a? Is anyone in the room uh that have not signed out would like to speak to this item? If not, applicant.

   Barbara Wilhite

   53:16Just briefly. Three things kind of themes you heard there. One was flooding. Um I the um engineer is here um from Beacon Civil actually Jarriss he's a planner but he's representing the engineering firm and he will talk to and work with any of the residents. I've seen him do it many, many times so as he goes through with his firm to design the project the I encourage the neighbors to reach out to Beacon Silvil and talk about, you know, the different things that they've seen out there regarding flooding. We can we

   53:46can't make the flooding worse. There's plenty of regulations on the books regarding flooding. But what is important is for neighbors to talk to neighbors. And so I I uh put that out there that um the civil on the project is is willing to do that. The second thing is the comp plan you heard. There's a specific long range consistency review report in your record prepared by the long range planning department. I know Mr. Pitos spoke at Planning Commission too, so if you had any questions about comp plan It's already covered. Um I won't belabor that, but I know Mr.

   54:16Pitos can speak to it as well. And the third thing is there won't be any bait and switch. Unlike an MPUD that sometimes you can't see what's in it, can't see what's on the face of the zoning map, this is P01. It's a it's a Euclidean zoning district. It's got a it's gonna have a recorded deed restriction, can't be more than two stories, and that's what it's gonna be. And any change to that comes back through a public hearing process that would go back through the same process we've been through. Thank you.

   Ron OakleyChair

   54:44Thank you.

   54:48Any questions? Discussion?

   Jack Mariano

   54:50Mr. Chairman I got two questions. Go ahead. Uh maybe staff can help. With the stormwater requirements right now, what do we have in place? Like what what event does it have to hold its own water?

   Denise

   55:06Just wondering if we have staff here that can answer that question or maybe even online. I know we have someone from long range on the on the line to answer the comp plan item. But regard I mean they're they're definitely gonna have to uh provide a stormwater management plan and report. That's all part of the um of the preliminary site plan um process.

   Ron OakleyChair

   55:27Terry's coming forward.

   Denise

   55:29Okay.

   Jack Mariano

   55:31Re reason I asked the question is sometimes on certain areas we we put stronger requirements than what was just

   Denise

   55:37not in a specific drainage basin as far as I'm concerned, if that's the question.

   Jack Mariano

   55:41Well what I'm what I'm wondering is sometimes we had others put in a stronger stormwater requirement and d in what was there somewhat. This is

   Ron OakleyChair

   55:49a Euclidean zoning. So you you can do that on a master plan development that has that you can condition but this is Euclidean. So they have to meet Swift Mud regs and Rs on top of that if they're more stringent, but that's that's all that that's all that you got.

   Jack Mariano

   56:07What if they volunteer to do so?

   Ron OakleyChair

   56:11They can design to whatever standard they're comfortable designing to in which exceeds Swift Mud Rags. They could do more. Yeah, they could do more.

   Jack Mariano

   56:22Okay. Well what if they if they agree to so yeah if you if you if I could get an answer, what what requirements are there right now?

   Unidentified speakerVoice J

   56:35Good afternoon, Brian Tippin, Playing and Development. We don't have our stormwater people in the room, but generally the requirement is that the post-development rate of discharge off of the site cannot be any worse than the discharge off of the site prior to development. Whether they are able to further restrict that flow. There are some downstream things. There's water is very tricky. It's one of those things where you don't want to cut off water supply to other folks downstream that previously had water

   57:05supply. So there's a balance that they keep. We review that very carefully during the process and we make sure that there's not going to be adverse effects.

   Jack Mariano

   57:12But isn't there a certain stormwater event whether it twenty-five year Yes,

   Unidentified speakerVoice J

   57:18there's twenty-five year and hundred year storms, uh depending on the type of basin that it's in. I

   57:23am

   57:23not aware that it is in the most restrictive basin. Uh but uh I would have to have someone get back to you with that for sure.

   Jack Mariano

   57:31Uh if you could, Mr. Maybe you can bring in the engineer representing talking for a minute. The applicant's engineer? Give me

   Amy

   57:39them.

   57:42Good good afternoon, Commissioner.

   57:51Jarriss,

   Ron OakleyChair

   57:52have

   Amy

   57:52you

   Ron OakleyChair

   57:52been

   Amy

   57:52sworn? I have been sworn, sorry. Thank you for the car. Um but I can tell you that we will go through SWIFT mode requirements, FDEP requirements, and Pasco County requirements, and Pasco County requirements are generally a little bit above and beyond that of Swift MUD. And also if we impact any of the floodplain, we'll have additional floodplain compensation. So there will be both in the designs that we have put forth so far, we would have storm tech

   58:22design as well as some detention that's above grade.

   Jack Mariano

   58:28Uh let me ask you this. The ditch that's between uh let's uh the south of the property, so you've who owns that ditch?

   Amy

   58:34Uh that is Pasco County's property.

   Jack Mariano

   58:36Okay. We had a situation um A few years ago when a Hampton came in along US nineteen and there was a Florida dental place beside it. And we structured an agreement to where instead of building eight one pond here and another pond right beside it. They thought in work with Swiftman on it that they combined both together and it created a better capacity for flow. So instead of just having that narrow ditch running down through and not not to be narrow but fourteen,

   59:06eighteen feet wide, but it could be larger uh Incre increate, I think, even more still mark capacity. Um is that something you guys would be willing

   Amy

   59:17to look at doing? Um I would I would say we would be willing to to look at doing whatever we can to help out the situation there, but the ultimate requirements of that would would fall on my client to answer that specific question of whether or not we would do above and beyond improvements outside of our limits of our property. Yeah. If if that sufficiently answers the question.

   Jack Mariano

   59:40Um it doesn't give me anything else to look at for as far as that goes, but it's part of a conversation. So I'll I'll let the other board members go into that.

   Mike Moore

   59:50Yes, sir. Yeah, so you're pretty familiar with the rules and regulation of the

   Amy

   59:55Yes sir. Um made recommendations to this board. Yeah, that's what's it.

   Mike Moore

   1:00:02All right? Thank

   1:00:03you.

   Amy

   1:00:04Sorry, thank

   Ron OakleyChair

   1:00:04you.

   Mike Moore

   1:00:07right.

   1:00:09Hey Mr. Chairman Mariano and and I appreciate everybody that spoke today and and uh as we saw this the the public hearing uh the last public hearing when there was there was a um different application that that that came through there were quite a few Not not quite a few, very many residents obviously that and we appreciate that that showed up um and that was at the um apologize let me get a little closer here at the New Port Richey uh location and and we did listen, you know, and I and uh have had conversations with quite a few folks

   1:00:39over the last uh few months. So I do appreciate the applicant and um his team working together with quite a f if I'm not correct quite a few residents there to come to a you know a a happy median. You know I would say that you know you look at office and and what impact this will have.

   1:01:03There's not a whole lot they can do now um at at this location. So the the traffic really will be minimal under under this classification. Um We're not looking at like the heavy commercial. I know we didn't know what was gonna happen last time, but the rumors abound or that it might have been a filming station of or a convenience store of some type. Obviously we know that would have had a a dramatic impact on the on the community, especially with the ingress egress

   1:01:33being um on that Meadow Book Drive. Um but you know, when you think about office You know, if this was gonna be, you know, in the middle of the neighborhood There's no way I would let this I would let it fly 'cause that's not the right fit. And that was talked about earlier, right? It's on the front, it's on fifty four, very small impact. But working with the residents and and the majority of the people I've spoken with are fine with this and and uh I I and I'm fine with it. So So I I'll make a motion for approval.

   Ron OakleyChair

   1:02:03And a motion and a second. All those in favor of the question. Mr.

   Jack Mariano

   1:02:07Chairman Mariano discussion, just if I could. Um and Mr. Stein tried to coach me a little bit there if you would. I I wanna make sure that they do work with the best bit of stormwater they can do within the realm of making it all work as well. If you'll just Let's say you just say that you will, I mean you're not gonna be bound to it I guess, but um I think we can do some really good things out there. Might be a little bit out of the box, but

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:02:31On behalf of the applicant, we will. We voluntarily agreed to a deed restriction. We've worked with uh Miss Henywell Johnson and her group. Um we will continue. They have my client and Miss Henywell Johnson have a professional relationship, goes back many years. So we will continue to work on this. Um thank you.

   Mike Moore

   1:02:51I she's I I I yeah Miss Huddy Well Johnson, she is the eyes and ears, and she might I I know she won't make sure nothing gets through that shouldn't happen. I can pretty much guarantee you that. I have a feeling her and the in the engineering firm and the planners are gonna have a very, very close relationship in the coming weeks and months.

   Ron OakleyChair

   1:03:10Well we appreciate that and and what they do to help protect in the water. Water issues are big and and they're a big concern in the county, but yeah. We know you follow the guidelines and within the parameters of what you're required to make sure that you look at it. If you can do something extra that'll help it even better then we'll appreciate that.

   Mike Moore

   1:03:29Yeah, we want to make sure that for

   Christina Fitzpatrick

   1:03:31I'm I like to say, Ms. Wilhite, thank you for working with the community. Thank you for the community and neighborhood to work with you so closely to come up with a smart growth project because it's really important and I really feel that this is a project that it's gonna better complement the community. So thank you for working together.

   Jack Mariano

   1:03:50And I'd like to say that uh I appreciate the applicant changing uh to go to this. I know it took the opposition of the residents to make that happen, but uh I'm glad the compromise was done with the residents as well. Uh I will say after the hearing I did talk to the county attorney about doing this exact type of thing, uh but it's glad to see that you made it happen working with the residents to make it happen because I think something has to go here. This is the least of intrusive that can go in that does make sense. So it's it's a great resolution I think.

   Ron OakleyChair

   1:04:17Okay. I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed like sign. All right. Motion passed 4-0.