PDD-22-7563

Published agenda

3 appearances between Jul 7, 2022 and Aug 24, 2022, at 2 boards — continued 1 time.

OutcomeApproved by the Board of County Commissioners on Aug 24, 2022

Approved Staff’s recommendation.

Official title

Zoning Amendment (Continuance) – Palmetto Ridge MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – Palmetto Ridge Cattle Company, LLC – A Rezoning Request from an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to Change the Name of the MPUD, and to Allow the Development of a Maximum of 2,500 Residential Units (Detached/Attached), 50,000 Square-Feet of Commercial Uses, a 49.24 +/- Acre Potential School Site, a 5.03 +/- Acre Potential Public Safety Site, and 2,000 +/- Acres of Open Space/Recreation on Approximately 3,535.79 Acres.

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1Jul 7, 2022
Planning CommissionPC3Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
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Unidentified speakerVoice A
Okay, thank you. Denise, do you want to start with the continuous items
Denise
Absolutely? Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Planning Commission members. Denise Fernandez, Planning and Development. The first item is PC three. That is PDD 227563 is a zoning amendment. Palmetto Ridge MPUD Master Plan Unit Development, Palmetto Ridge Cattle Company LLC. This item was advertised as a continuance item. The continuance request is to July 21, 2022, Planning Commission meeting at 1 30 in New Port Richey.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Okay, is there anybody here to speak to item PC three?
Okay. The next one.
Denise
Following item is PC four. That's PDD 22 7614. It's a zoning amendment. State Road 54 crossings. MPUD Master Plan Unit Development.
This item was also advertised as a continuance. It's a continuance request to the July 21st, 2022 Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Okay, is there anybody here to speak to PC four?
Denise
Okay. I'll move on to the following item, which is PC five. That's PDD 227632 in the name of Cross Park MPUD. Cross Park Land Trust No. 1, Cross Park Park Properties LLC. It was also advertised as a continuance. The continuance request is the July 21st, 2022, Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Okay, is there anybody here to speak to PC five?
Okay, and all three of those are con being continued to the same meeting, right? So we can Approve that continuance all right.
Denise
That's correct. Do you can I can I read the last continuance which is the addendum item if you don't mind me moving
Unidentified speakerVoice A
out
Denise
of order?
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Perfect. That's good.
Denise
Thank you. So your addendum item is APC fifteen. That's PDD 227596 in the name of Denton Avenue MPUD Master Plan Unit Development, Denton Avenue Project LLC. It was also advertised as a continuance. The continuance date is August 18th, 22, Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Okay, is there anybody here to speak that uh to that item?
Okay, um we do have somebody here to speak and I I guess before you speak we we'll give you your chance to speak if you would like. But it has been the commission's policy that if you speak today You cannot speak again at the continues when the item is continued. So I I will leave that up to you whether you want to speak today or whether you want to wait. Okay.
So if we're gonna wait, they can all go on the same motion?
Those are the continuous items. Okay.
Um motion?
Christopher Poole
So
GirardiVice Chair
move.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Second.
GirardiVice Chair
I second it.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Okay. It's a motion and second. Um PC PC three, four, and five are continued to July twenty-first and the last item was to August eight. August eighteenth, twenty twenty two. Okay, a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, motion carries.
2Aug 9, 2022
Board of County CommissionersP86Public hearingContinued
Approved minutes
Approved to continue the item to the August 24, 2022 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey.
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Unidentified speakerVoice B
my notes are a little messy. You're on you're on the con you're you've done eighty-five, correct, Denise? That is correct. Yes, that's correct. And you're and uh eighty-six, the continuance is is next. Right.
StarkeyChair
So item P eighty six was published in the Tampa Times on June twenty second, twenty twenty two.
Denise
Item P eighty six is PD PDD 227563. This item, Palmetto Ridge, MPUD, Master Plan Unit Development, was advertised as a continuance. The continuance date is to August 24, 2022, Board of County Commissioners meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie.
StarkeyChair
Okay, I'll take a This is a public hearing. Does anyone wish to speak on this item that is being continued? Is there anybody online?
Unidentified speakerVoice C
Move to continue.
3Aug 24, 2022
Board of County CommissionersP71Public hearingApproved
Zoning Amendment ~~(Continuance)~~ (Consent) – Palmetto Ridge MPUD … on Approximately 3,535.79 Acres.
Approved minutes
Approved Staff’s recommendation.
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StarkeyChair
Second. All in in favor? Aye? Aye. Okay, so we're back to P seventy one. And then you'll have to come back, Ainsley. Sorry.
Cynthia Speidel
Good afternoon, everybody. Tammy Snyder, Planning and Development.
Moore
Madam Chair, do you mind? Just a question, I guess. Well, good, Mr. Steinsnyder. Um so there was an As far as I'm concerned, there was no uh my recollection there was no uh position at Planning Commission on P seventy two or P seventy three. I personally do not need a presentation.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Seventy one or seventy two?
Moore
Seventy one or seventy two.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
That w it would be up to the board if the public is not a public hearing.
Moore
Yeah, I don't think I mean we all know we all met with I would assume we all met with staff in the past on this item. I don't know why we need to go through it again. We can let the citizen um speak their objections if they have one and then ask questions in reference to his objections.
McCoy
That works for me.
Moore
Yeah.
StarkeyChair
Okay.
StarkeyChair
The first person signed up, Mr. Rob Park.
StarkeyChair
Do we have to read it into the record?
StarkeyChair
He
Unidentified speakerVoice B
already did.
StarkeyChair
You got P71 all done. Okay. So, Mr. Park, if you'd like to address the board.
Rob Park
Okay, yes, my name is Rob Park, [address removed], Avenue Swarm. Item seventy one, Palmeadow Ridge Community. Thank you for hearing me. Please know I will get off topic with a few of my points. I know you were aware of the issues. But the jest is the wording for the future planning must be addressed now. In the late seventies, when I first started coming out to Pasco County,
the county had an existing road network to accommodate the zoning in place at the time. The roads were easy. to accommodate the pull out of existing zoning. Today, in many areas, the zoning has changed. Mr. Park,
StarkeyChair
if you could please Mr. Park if you could uh move closer to your microphone because you're breaking up as you back away from it.
Rob Park
Okay.
StarkeyChair
You're fine when you stay up close, it's just when you back away from it. Thank you.
Rob Park
No worries. So today in many areas the zoning has changed, but not the road now. Some of the roads are now bigger. What's bigger is better. Having a fourteen lane intersection for the through road, that's gonna It's not Three lane left turn. through vehicles passing within two feet at fifty-five miles an hour and your car shudders from the wake of the air, that's better. So I would like you to consider putting wording. In
this consent to address State Road 52 having a wide split. Between the east and westbound lands. Explant the free thing. About fifteen hundred feet or so wide. And any of the applicants' commercial process Planned along State Route fifty two. I didn't know. Between the east and westbound lanes. There would be long sweeping turns. I did send a PDF for that. between the east and westbound lanes
and eliminate traffic lights. No traffic lights on State Road fifty two. Speeds can be reduced. And travel time shorter. Don't need six cars coming out to the com out of the community at an intersection and stopping sixty cars. If you don't act now Then history will repeat itself.
Congestion at intersections, just like we have now. I urge you not to pass the consent until additional wording is in place. I would also like to see wording that addresses the traffic generated by the development, staying on arterial. Because there is a huge problem in this area where vehicular traffic is using collector roads as a material road. And you can see my little cut paste. It's tough but It's
different than what we're doing now.
StarkeyChair
Well I'm I'm trying to understand the picture in front of me. But I I wanted you to I wanted to make sure you're aware that fifty two is being widened. Um moved
Oakley
it up
StarkeyChair
about
Oakley
two years.
StarkeyChair
Yeah they they moved it up and um There is one last section. What what Commissioner Oakley, what is the section that will be last?
Oakley
Well that'd be from uh forty one to air and cutoff and then air and cutoff to the Uh Bellamy. Yeah.
StarkeyChair
But it it is gonna be white.
Rob Park
Well, that's what I'm showing you. Instead of widening Your eastbound lanes are to the south and your western lane to
StarkeyChair
the south. Yeah. So that that that ship has sailed there. That's a a state project and they're buying the right of way. And um I think that that's pretty much that's pretty well that route's pretty well established. As a F D O T project.
Rob Park
fifty or and fifty six. That's what I'm pointing out.
StarkeyChair
Somehow
Rob Park
that has to change.
StarkeyChair
I am so sorry, but you are cutting in and out. I don't know why. Um But
But you know what, if if you wanna come in and meet with me sometime, I'd love to hear your ideas.
Rob Park
Okay, great. Thank you for that.
StarkeyChair
Okay. Is there anyone else that wishes to speak to the board on this issue?
Is there anyone else online?
StarkeyChair
No, not for this item.
StarkeyChair
I'll take a motion on P seventy one.
MarianoVice Chair
Can I ask a question to staff?
StarkeyChair
Yep.
MarianoVice Chair
Fifty two is the right-way gonna be needed here? Do we already have it? DOT
Mike Carballa
would be a DOT and I pulled up their work program on proposed improvements for State Road fifty two just now. I'll just read you an excerpt. From Shady Hills Road to I seventy five, the rural typical section will provide a forty six foot median separating three twelve foot lanes for each direction of travel. They obviously would once they go through their design they would have right-of-way acquisition that goes through their process. But F DOT would be best poised to answer that question. I don't have that information here.
MarianoVice Chair
Okay. I mean w this wouldn't be a developed model that we'd actually look to get that ahead of time.
StarkeyChair
You know, um and and I got a qu and he might be directed to come to an M PO meeting where F dot is there when And where we discuss these things. Commissioner Oakley.
Oakley
I have a question. It's on uh P seventy two.
StarkeyChair
there yet.
Oakley
I thought you were talking about both.
StarkeyChair
Well, P71.
Oakley
Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
So no question on P7.
StarkeyChair
Okay, but I will take a motion to the Mr.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Madam Chair, can we give the applicant a chance to rebut Just since there was public comment, the applicant should have a chance to rebut if they want to.
StarkeyChair
Does the applicant wish to rebut?
Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Mr. Two has indicated he the he's not gonna revive.
Joel
Joel to an associates I represent the applicant which also is the property owner and no we have no rebuttal since it's a DOT project is driven entirely by their design, their requirements, and yes, it's it's in the work program and and the budget funds allocated. Okay. Thank you.
Oakley
Move approval.
Moore
Second.
StarkeyChair
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. And if Mr. Park comes back on for P seventy two, I'm gonna suggest he he come to an M PO meeting where where F dot is there and he can Ask us
StarkeyChair
questions. Is Mr. Park still on the line? Um
Yes, I'm
StarkeyChair
here.
Okay. Oh good. good. All right. We'll uh we'll get if you can uh Um go online to uh To the Pasco County site and see when the MPO meeting meets. I don't know when it is exactly right now.
Moore
Until October, I don't think.
StarkeyChair
It'll be over it'll be over here in uh Newport Ridgeie because we just met in Dade City. Um F dot's there and you can ask any questions. That that's a good way to find your answers.
Rob Park
Well yes ma'am. The reason that I'm bringing it to you is because if you don't put it in the wording now, then if F dot says, Well, yeah, that's a great idea, but do that then no Say no you're not. I already have it approved that you can't do that. That's all
StarkeyChair
I'm
Rob Park
I'm they're just trying to get wording in.
StarkeyChair
Well we we don't control the state. the state development. So
it's their engineering.
It's their their program, not ours. So
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Madam Chairman Mariano if Mr. Park has comments on
StarkeyChair
this I item
Unidentified speakerVoice B
you need to take it. Right.