Zoning Amendment (Consent) – Palmetto Ridge MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – Palmetto Ridge Cattle Company, LLC – A Rezoning Request from an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to Change the Name of the MPUD, and to Allow the Development of a Maximum of 2,500 Residential Units (Detached/Attached), 50,000 Square-Feet of Commercial Uses, a 49.24 +/- Acre Potential School Site, a 5.03 +/- Acre Potential Public Safety Site, and 2,000 +/- Acres of Open Space/Recreation on Approximately 3,535.79 Acres.

1:11:54Second. All in in favor? Aye? Aye. Okay, so we're back to P seventy one. And then you'll have to come back, Ainsley. Sorry.

1:12:12Good afternoon, everybody. Tammy Snyder, Planning and Development.

1:12:15Madam Chair, do you mind? Just a question, I guess. Well, good, Mr. Steinsnyder. Um so there was an As far as I'm concerned, there was no uh my recollection there was no uh position at Planning Commission on P seventy two or P seventy three. I personally do not need a presentation.

1:12:30Seventy one or seventy two?

1:12:31Seventy one or seventy two.

1:12:34That w it would be up to the board if the public is not a public hearing.

1:12:36Yeah, I don't think I mean we all know we all met with I would assume we all met with staff in the past on this item. I don't know why we need to go through it again. We can let the citizen um speak their objections if they have one and then ask questions in reference to his objections.

1:12:52That works for me.

1:12:55Yeah.

1:12:57Okay.

1:12:58The first person signed up, Mr. Rob Park.

1:13:01Do we have to read it into the record?

1:13:03He

1:13:03already did.

1:13:04You got P71 all done. Okay. So, Mr. Park, if you'd like to address the board.

1:13:14Okay, yes, my name is Rob Park, [address removed], Avenue Swarm. Item seventy one, Palmeadow Ridge Community. Thank you for hearing me. Please know I will get off topic with a few of my points. I know you were aware of the issues. But the jest is the wording for the future planning must be addressed now. In the late seventies, when I first started coming out to Pasco County,

1:13:44the county had an existing road network to accommodate the zoning in place at the time. The roads were easy. to accommodate the pull out of existing zoning. Today, in many areas, the zoning has changed. Mr. Park,

1:14:01if you could please Mr. Park if you could uh move closer to your microphone because you're breaking up as you back away from it.

1:14:11Okay.

1:14:12You're fine when you stay up close, it's just when you back away from it. Thank you.

1:14:17No worries. So today in many areas the zoning has changed, but not the road now. Some of the roads are now bigger. What's bigger is better. Having a fourteen lane intersection for the through road, that's gonna It's not Three lane left turn. through vehicles passing within two feet at fifty-five miles an hour and your car shudders from the wake of the air, that's better. So I would like you to consider putting wording. In

1:14:47this consent to address State Road 52 having a wide split. Between the east and westbound lands. Explant the free thing. About fifteen hundred feet or so wide. And any of the applicants' commercial process Planned along State Route fifty two. I didn't know. Between the east and westbound lanes. There would be long sweeping turns. I did send a PDF for that. between the east and westbound lanes

1:15:18and eliminate traffic lights. No traffic lights on State Road fifty two. Speeds can be reduced. And travel time shorter. Don't need six cars coming out to the com out of the community at an intersection and stopping sixty cars. If you don't act now Then history will repeat itself.

1:15:42Congestion at intersections, just like we have now. I urge you not to pass the consent until additional wording is in place. I would also like to see wording that addresses the traffic generated by the development, staying on arterial. Because there is a huge problem in this area where vehicular traffic is using collector roads as a material road. And you can see my little cut paste. It's tough but It's

1:16:13different than what we're doing now.

1:16:18Well I'm I'm trying to understand the picture in front of me. But I I wanted you to I wanted to make sure you're aware that fifty two is being widened. Um moved

1:16:28it up

1:16:28about

1:16:29two years.

1:16:29Yeah they they moved it up and um There is one last section. What what Commissioner Oakley, what is the section that will be last?

1:16:38Well that'd be from uh forty one to air and cutoff and then air and cutoff to the Uh Bellamy. Yeah.

1:16:46But it it is gonna be white.

1:16:50Well, that's what I'm showing you. Instead of widening Your eastbound lanes are to the south and your western lane to

1:16:59the south. Yeah. So that that that ship has sailed there. That's a a state project and they're buying the right of way. And um I think that that's pretty much that's pretty well that route's pretty well established. As a F D O T project.

1:17:17fifty or and fifty six. That's what I'm pointing out.

1:17:20Somehow

1:17:21that has to change.

1:17:23I am so sorry, but you are cutting in and out. I don't know why. Um But

1:17:29But you know what, if if you wanna come in and meet with me sometime, I'd love to hear your ideas.

1:17:35Okay, great. Thank you for that.

1:17:36Okay. Is there anyone else that wishes to speak to the board on this issue?

1:17:44Is there anyone else online?

1:17:46No, not for this item.

1:17:48I'll take a motion on P seventy one.

1:17:50Can I ask a question to staff?

1:17:51Yep.

1:17:52Fifty two is the right-way gonna be needed here? Do we already have it? DOT

1:17:59would be a DOT and I pulled up their work program on proposed improvements for State Road fifty two just now. I'll just read you an excerpt. From Shady Hills Road to I seventy five, the rural typical section will provide a forty six foot median separating three twelve foot lanes for each direction of travel. They obviously would once they go through their design they would have right-of-way acquisition that goes through their process. But F DOT would be best poised to answer that question. I don't have that information here.

1:18:23Okay. I mean w this wouldn't be a developed model that we'd actually look to get that ahead of time.

1:18:29You know, um and and I got a qu and he might be directed to come to an M PO meeting where F dot is there when And where we discuss these things. Commissioner Oakley.

1:18:39I have a question. It's on uh P seventy two.

1:18:43there yet.

1:18:44I thought you were talking about both.

1:18:46Well, P71.

1:18:48Okay.

1:18:50So no question on P7.

1:18:51Okay, but I will take a motion to the Mr.

1:18:52Madam Chair, can we give the applicant a chance to rebut Just since there was public comment, the applicant should have a chance to rebut if they want to.

1:19:00Does the applicant wish to rebut?

1:19:05Okay.

1:19:07Mr. Two has indicated he the he's not gonna revive.

1:19:13Joel to an associates I represent the applicant which also is the property owner and no we have no rebuttal since it's a DOT project is driven entirely by their design, their requirements, and yes, it's it's in the work program and and the budget funds allocated. Okay. Thank you.

1:19:28Move approval.

1:19:29Second.

1:19:30All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. And if Mr. Park comes back on for P seventy two, I'm gonna suggest he he come to an M PO meeting where where F dot is there and he can Ask us

1:19:44questions. Is Mr. Park still on the line? Um

1:19:50Yes, I'm

1:19:50here.

1:19:51Okay. Oh good. good. All right. We'll uh we'll get if you can uh Um go online to uh To the Pasco County site and see when the MPO meeting meets. I don't know when it is exactly right now.

1:20:04Until October, I don't think.

1:20:06It'll be over it'll be over here in uh Newport Ridgeie because we just met in Dade City. Um F dot's there and you can ask any questions. That that's a good way to find your answers.

1:20:17Well yes ma'am. The reason that I'm bringing it to you is because if you don't put it in the wording now, then if F dot says, Well, yeah, that's a great idea, but do that then no Say no you're not. I already have it approved that you can't do that. That's all

1:20:33I'm

1:20:33I'm they're just trying to get wording in.

1:20:35Well we we don't control the state. the state development. So

1:20:40it's their engineering.

1:20:41It's their their program, not ours. So

1:20:44Madam Chairman Mariano if Mr. Park has comments on

1:20:47this I item

1:20:48you need to take it. Right.