PDD-23-0189

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1. 1Apr 20, 2023
   Planning CommissionPC1Public hearingNo outcome in the minutes

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   Denise

   9:35Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Planning Commission members. Denise Hernandez Planning and Development. The first item is PC one, which is PDD 230189. It's a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment C Pass 2227 for RBR properties PAW. The applicant has requested a continuance to the May 18th, 2023 Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   9:58All right. I'd like to hear the case, please.

   Denise

   10:13Well that's that's why

   Charles GreyChair

   10:14Mr. Middle wants to hear it today. No no no.

   Denise

   10:19I'm sorry, the applicant requested a continuance uh like after the agenda was published. So I should have said that.

   Jon MoodyDisputed

   10:25What what was the date again? May eight.

   Denise

   10:27May eighteenth twenty Okay, and then

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   10:30could I speak staff after the meeting about this so that we don't have to pull it the next time?

   Denise

   10:35Um I will make sure that the team member who's responsible for this item is available to speak to you.

   Charles GreyChair

   10:41He's right there. There you go.

   Denise

   10:44The planner is actually Hyatt and I I can have Hyatt. Okay, thank you.

   Charles GreyChair

   10:50Okay.

   10:52So it's just easier when they're not here though, right John?

   11:00Okay. So uh that's not that's g to be continued, uh motion.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   11:06So moved.

   Charles GreyChair

   11:08I suck it. Further discussion, all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye opposed, like signed.

2. 2May 18, 2023
   Planning CommissionPC7Public hearingNo outcome in the minutes

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3. 3May 23, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP54Public hearingContinued

   Small-Scale An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Consent) - CPAS22(27) RBR Properties/PAW – Plan; Providing for a For A Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the To The Future Land Use Map … and an Effective Date.

   Approved minutes

   Approved to continue the item to the June 20, 2023 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey.

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   Jack MarianoChair

   25:07Uh continuance.

   25:12Can we have proof?

   Kathryn Starkey

   25:13Sorry. All right. Yes, uh P fifty four was um advertised in the Tampa Bay Times April fifth, twenty twenty three, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

   Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

   25:25Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Planning and development. Item P fifty-four is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan and providing for small-scale comprehensive plan amendments of future land use map map two-fifteen and sheet twelve from Res 3, residential three dwelling units per gross acre to IL industrial light on approximately eleven point five two acres of real property located on the north side of State Road 52, approximately

   25:50And a map amendment to the future land use map two-nine amending sub-area map two nine fifty-two PAL materials. It covers the planned text amendment to sub-area policy flu 7.1.52 PAL Materials, providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for repealer servability and effective dates. And this item is being continued to the was requested to be continued to the uh June twenty, twenty twenty-three BCC meeting here in Upor Ritchie. At one thirty.

   Jack MarianoChair

   26:18All right, so move to continue time certain. Someone make a motion. Is there a move?

   Kathryn Starkey

   26:24Second.

   Jack MarianoChair

   26:25All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. P fifty five.

4. 4Jun 20, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP46Public hearingAdopted

   Small-Scale An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Consent) - CPAS22(27) RBR Properties/PAW – Plan; Providing for a Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the The Future Land Use Map … (Residential-3 Du/Ga) to IL (Industrial-Light) (Industrial- Light) on Approximately 11.52 Acres … 2-9 Amending Subarea Map 2-9(52) 2- 9(52) PAW Materials; And a … 7.1.52 – PAW Materials; And Providing for Additional Text … Severability, and an Effective Date. Date

   Approved minutes

   Approved to adopt by a roll call vote.

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   Kathryn Starkey

   31:58Item P forty-six was published in the Tambay Times on May 3rd, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

   Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

   32:07Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Item P46 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map two-fifteen, and sheet twelve, from res three residential three dwelling units per gross acre to IL Industrial Light on approximately 11.52 acres of real property located on the north side of State Road 52, approximately 0.15 mile east of Giddens Road. And a map amendment to the future land use map two-nine, amending sub-area map two-nine fifty-two PAL

   32:38materials, and a comprehensive plan text amendment to sub-area policy flu seven dot one fifty-two PAL materials. And providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for repeat layer serverability in an effective date. Uh this comes with the recommendation of approval, and we have staff to make a presentation if desired.

   Jack MarianoChair

   32:55Um you need a presentation.

   Kathryn Starkey

   32:58No, I just have a question. Okay.

   Jack MarianoChair

   32:59Question?

   Kathryn Starkey

   33:00Uh of the applicant.

   Jack MarianoChair

   33:01I don't have any public comments signed up for this.

   33:05Let me just see if there's any public comment. Is there any public comment to I item P forty six?

   Kathryn Starkey

   33:10Mr. Chair, there's no one on WebEx and no one's signed up in on our form.

   Clark Hobby

   33:13Uh the applicant. Mr. Chairman Mariano.

   Kathryn Starkey

   33:18Hey. Um my question is and I know it's not on this property, but I just wanna make sure they know that w we're not gonna have any um chain link fences fronting fifty-two.

   Clark Hobby

   33:30I think there's a MPUD condition that prohibits that.

   Kathryn Starkey

   33:34Because there's one there now, but I assume they're going to be taking it out.

   Clark Hobby

   33:37Right. The the chain link fence that there will be uh that's supposed to be there and it's site plan approved is in the back, and that's supposed to be fencing off the heavy industrial area from the front. But over you know, when we start developing the frontage, that's retail development and it's in Interesting. Just this morning we had a conference call about some of their uses on the site and I was very clear to say don't forget you're marketing the front stuff for typical retail uses you cannot put

   34:08too heavy of industrial stuff even though I one's allowed on the front partial because we'll never get the retail users in there. Yeah, we want them both. It's intended to have one row of retail and then IL, I mean I one stuff behind that.

   Kathryn Starkey

   34:23Well I mean true simulation is IL and Metler Toledo's IL, and I'd love to have that on the front.

   Clark Hobby

   34:31I'm just saying we have a broker that's you know, we've got a a hard corner with a signal there, so we're marketing some of the upfront stuff for retail. But yes. Understood. Okay.

   Jack MarianoChair

   34:41Thanks. Commission hang on, Commissioner Weightman?

   Seth Weightman

   34:43You know a question.

   Kathryn Starkey

   34:46Oh yes. How

   Seth Weightman

   34:46did I get so

   Clark Hobby

   34:47pretty?

   Seth Weightman

   34:48Yeah. Happy anniversary, Mr. Hobbin.

   34:53So it's exciting to see we go from residential to Uh light industrial once again. Can we condition this thing? thing?

   Clark Hobby

   35:01Yeah, it the zoning already has a deed restriction. There's a companion zoning that that has that with them. So it won't be coming. It will not be.

   35:12Good. Thank you.

   Jack MarianoChair

   35:14Okay. Thanks. All right. All right.

   Seth Weightman

   35:18Move approval. Second.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:21Okay. Sometimes

   35:26Can cement mixing go in light industrial. So do we have any place anywhere up there where

   Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

   35:36Sement mixing does not go in I L. I L is typically enclosed spaces. I H.

   Kathryn Starkey

   35:43All right. Just I know that I've been contacted by people trying to find a site for Heavy and we we need to have Heavy some places as well. Because otherwise they're gonna be driving from Stay well fifty four or fifty two and airing. All the way up to the corners of the county.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   36:00Commissioner, just you know there's a pending land use amendment near the Lime Rock Mines that is planned for having a lot of money.

   Clark Hobby

   36:06There is one, but I I would tell the board, and it's funny, we've got uh one of my consultant friends who's here who comes from that business, and we've spent a lot of time the last three years trying to find any site in the northern third of the easy. Of the county and we're having a major problem with several concrete companies. They can only keep the the stuff spinning in the back of the truck, I think it's for 50 minutes 5-0. And we're gonna have to find several other sites over time. I

   36:36don't know where the right site is, and I know the board doesn't like to designate sites for heavy industrial, but whether we do them as MPUDs with a PD or whatever. Whatever, but this is a serious issue the board's gonna confront for some period of time.

   Kathryn Starkey

   36:50That's why I'm bringing it up

   Clark Hobby

   36:51because I was

   Jack MarianoChair

   36:51content.

   Clark Hobby

   36:54I mean I literally did Thomas Lange is here and he's probably spent five hundred hours looking at this. That's driving us insane.

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:02Thomas is who I talked to.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   37:05Thanks.

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:05Joel's saying he may have one.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   37:07Well you you probably should let Miss Woolheid speak because she she's got one. There there is one in the pipeline.

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:12Oh everyone's racing every

   Jack MarianoChair

   37:16All right. So this closed discussion, call the roll.

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:20District one, Commissioner Oakley.

   Jack MarianoChair

   37:21Aye.

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:21District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford.

   Jack MarianoChair

   37:28Aye.

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:29District 5, Chairman Mariano.

   Jack MarianoChair

   37:30Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Item P forty seven.