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An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Providing for a Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 12) from RES-3 (Residential-3 Du/Ga) to IL (Industrial- Light) on Approximately 11.52 Acres of Real Property Located on the North Side of State Road 52 Approximately 0.15 miles East of Giddens Road; And a Map Amendment to the Future Land Use Map 2-9 Amending Subarea Map 2- 9(52) PAW Materials; And a Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment to Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.52 – PAW Materials; And Providing for Additional Text Amendments as Necessary for Internal Consistency; Providing for a Repealer, Severability, and an Effective Date

Proposed Ordinances at 1:30 p.m.PDD-23-0189District 5

What the county recorded

Published agenda

Staff recommendation

Approve

Approved minutes

OutcomeAdopted

Approved to adopt by a roll call vote.

The source document

Published agenda

The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Jun 20, 2023

The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.

Approved minutes

The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Jun 20, 2023

The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.

This case, across meetings

PDD-23-0189 in full →

PDD-23-0189 was taken up 4 times between Apr 20, 2023 and Jun 20, 2023, continued 1 time. This is appearance 4.

  1. Apr 20, 2023PlanningPC1▶No outcome in the minutes
  2. May 18, 2023PlanningPC7No outcome in the minutes
  3. May 23, 2023BoardP54▶Continued
  4. Jun 20, 2023BoardP46▶Adoptedthis item

What was said

Transcript

Machine transcription of 6m of recording, with speaker names inferred from voice matching. 94% of 52 lines carry a name. It shows what was said, not what was decided, and both the words and the names can be wrong.

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Kathryn Starkey

Item P forty-six was published in the Tambay Times on May 3rd, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Item P46 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map two-fifteen, and sheet twelve, from res three residential three dwelling units per gross acre to IL Industrial Light on approximately 11.52 acres of real property located on the north side of State Road 52, approximately 0.15 mile east of Giddens Road. And a map amendment to the future land use map two-nine, amending sub-area map two-nine fifty-two PAL

materials, and a comprehensive plan text amendment to sub-area policy flu seven dot one fifty-two PAL materials. And providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for repeat layer serverability in an effective date. Uh this comes with the recommendation of approval, and we have staff to make a presentation if desired.

Jack MarianoChair

Um you need a presentation.

Kathryn Starkey

No, I just have a question. Okay.

Jack MarianoChair

Question?

Kathryn Starkey

Uh of the applicant.

Jack MarianoChair

I don't have any public comments signed up for this.

Let me just see if there's any public comment. Is there any public comment to I item P forty six?

Kathryn Starkey

Mr. Chair, there's no one on WebEx and no one's signed up in on our form.

Clark Hobby

Uh the applicant. Mr. Chairman Mariano.

Kathryn Starkey

Hey. Um my question is and I know it's not on this property, but I just wanna make sure they know that w we're not gonna have any um chain link fences fronting fifty-two.

Clark Hobby

I think there's a MPUD condition that prohibits that.

Kathryn Starkey

Because there's one there now, but I assume they're going to be taking it out.

Clark Hobby

Right. The the chain link fence that there will be uh that's supposed to be there and it's site plan approved is in the back, and that's supposed to be fencing off the heavy industrial area from the front. But over you know, when we start developing the frontage, that's retail development and it's in Interesting. Just this morning we had a conference call about some of their uses on the site and I was very clear to say don't forget you're marketing the front stuff for typical retail uses you cannot put

too heavy of industrial stuff even though I one's allowed on the front partial because we'll never get the retail users in there. Yeah, we want them both. It's intended to have one row of retail and then IL, I mean I one stuff behind that.

Kathryn Starkey

Well I mean true simulation is IL and Metler Toledo's IL, and I'd love to have that on the front.

Clark Hobby

I'm just saying we have a broker that's you know, we've got a a hard corner with a signal there, so we're marketing some of the upfront stuff for retail. But yes. Understood. Okay.

Jack MarianoChair

Thanks. Commission hang on, Commissioner Weightman?

Seth Weightman

You know a question.

Kathryn Starkey

Oh yes. How

Seth Weightman

did I get so

Clark Hobby

pretty?

Seth Weightman

Yeah. Happy anniversary, Mr. Hobbin.

So it's exciting to see we go from residential to Uh light industrial once again. Can we condition this thing? thing?

Clark Hobby

Yeah, it the zoning already has a deed restriction. There's a companion zoning that that has that with them. So it won't be coming. It will not be.

Good. Thank you.

Jack MarianoChair

Okay. Thanks. All right. All right.

Seth Weightman

Move approval. Second.

Kathryn Starkey

Okay. Sometimes

Can cement mixing go in light industrial. So do we have any place anywhere up there where

Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

Sement mixing does not go in I L. I L is typically enclosed spaces. I H.

Kathryn Starkey

All right. Just I know that I've been contacted by people trying to find a site for Heavy and we we need to have Heavy some places as well. Because otherwise they're gonna be driving from Stay well fifty four or fifty two and airing. All the way up to the corners of the county.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Commissioner, just you know there's a pending land use amendment near the Lime Rock Mines that is planned for having a lot of money.

Clark Hobby

There is one, but I I would tell the board, and it's funny, we've got uh one of my consultant friends who's here who comes from that business, and we've spent a lot of time the last three years trying to find any site in the northern third of the easy. Of the county and we're having a major problem with several concrete companies. They can only keep the the stuff spinning in the back of the truck, I think it's for 50 minutes 5-0. And we're gonna have to find several other sites over time. I

don't know where the right site is, and I know the board doesn't like to designate sites for heavy industrial, but whether we do them as MPUDs with a PD or whatever. Whatever, but this is a serious issue the board's gonna confront for some period of time.

Kathryn Starkey

That's why I'm bringing it up

Clark Hobby

because I was

Jack MarianoChair

content.

Clark Hobby

I mean I literally did Thomas Lange is here and he's probably spent five hundred hours looking at this. That's driving us insane.

Kathryn Starkey

Thomas is who I talked to.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Thanks.

Kathryn Starkey

Joel's saying he may have one.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well you you probably should let Miss Woolheid speak because she she's got one. There there is one in the pipeline.

Kathryn Starkey

Oh everyone's racing every

Jack MarianoChair

All right. So this closed discussion, call the roll.

Kathryn Starkey

District one, Commissioner Oakley.

Jack MarianoChair

Aye.

Kathryn Starkey

District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford.

Jack MarianoChair

Aye.

Kathryn Starkey

District 5, Chairman Mariano.

Jack MarianoChair

Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Item P forty seven.