PDD-23-7703

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1. 1Jul 20, 2023
   Planning CommissionP15Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

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2. 2Aug 22, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP76Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Regular) – … 228 Multi- Family Dwelling Units. Units

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   Planning and Development staff

   2:09:14Good afternoon, William from Million Planning and Development. Fortunately for us, my colleagues did a pretty great job going over this one. So I will run through it kind of quickly and touch on some things that maybe they didn't cover to avoid some redundancies.

   2:09:29So you've all you're everybody's already familiar with the location. Um so this was the site of the old bluffs at at uh Gulf Side MPD that was approved in nineteen ninety-seven.

   2:09:43Of course the uh the overall location area and context map showing the schools as well as the trail and the Duke Energy easement. The zoning.

   2:09:54sorry, sorry, tell me to slow down at any time.

   Starkey

   2:09:56I think that that is our easement to the east of the Duke easement.

   Planning and Development staff

   2:10:01Yes, uh so directly to the east of the Duke Ener Duke Energy uh property, there's the Pasco facilities property, and then further to the east of that is the Vertical Bridge property that is a platted lot within the Holiday Lakes Estates neighborhood that they use to access that cell tower to the north.

   Starkey

   2:10:19So that's a great opportunity for a trail one day. day. Even if it's an off-road trail, just an unpaved trail.

   Planning and Development staff

   2:10:28Okay. This is the zoning map.

   2:10:34So the applicant does have two variations from the land development code with this project, one from 9016 D11, street design and dedication, the other from 805.6 restrictions on wetland, uh post-development wetland and upland buffers. So the staff analysis for both of these uh sections We kind of just covered uh for 90160 eleven. So there's an existing wetland mitigation area on the eastern portion of the property that abuts the Duke easement. As well as that platted lot that Vertical Bridge

   2:11:04owns that does prevent a fully functional access to the east. There's that existing neighborhood to the south that's already platted that prevents the connection to the south. And from 805.6, this is a multifamily project, and this uh variation from the code is To allow this to not be platted and to be under common ownership, the developer may enter into a reciprocal easement maintenance agreement in the form acceptable to the county.

   2:11:32This is the master plan. And this is the zoomed in version of the master plan. You can see the um pedestrian connection to the south. There's an existing five foot sidewalk that will connect. this project to the school that's immediately to the west and to the north in the conditions of approval there's an eight foot um path it's going in alongside the access way. That will allow the citizens that live in this community to access the Anklow

   2:12:03Trail, which is on the west side of Sweet Briar Drive.

   2:12:08This is the potential emergency access that the client or that the applicant is exploring. Oh. With Duke to see if it's possible to have an emergency access. Of course that's all subject to Duke and Vertical Bridge. uh agreeing with this and they're exploring that at the time of PSP or PDP.

   2:12:27This is a contingency of the Planning Commission. It was to Oh. fully lay out what the additional enhancements to the buffering needed to be as shown on the master plan. You can see here that it's shade trees every 30 feet with palm trees, a six foot opaque wall, and a continuous row of hedges.

   2:12:49And it is noted that that buffer, like was said by Contessa from Dominium, doesn't extend an additional 15 feet onto the school's existing property, uh just to buffer that last lot through an easement with the school.

   2:13:07Uh a couple other things that uh that weren't uh talked about in the other two presentations. Uh this project is um Going to comply with LDC Section 1103 Hurricane Hazards. They have uh they're required to submit a site-specific evacuation plan to the Office of Emergency Management due to their proximity to the coast and the coast coastal high hazard area. Uh they are also going to be paying into the hurricane preparedness mitigation fees pursuant to

   2:13:37LDC 1307.2.

   2:13:42With that that comes to you with a recommendation of approval fr with conditions from the Planning Commission and PDD Uh that also encompasses the condition that you guys talked about with the comprehensive plan amendment.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:13:57Are you t are you talking about the the planning? Yes,

   Planning and Development staff

   2:13:59uh okay. Of course.

   2:14:03Does anybody have any questions for me?

   MarianoChair

   2:14:05Any questions for staff?

   Starkey

   2:14:06No, but I'm gonna show you something when Barbara's done.

   Planning and Development staff

   2:14:09Okay.

   MarianoChair

   2:14:11Okay.

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:14:14Barbara Will High 6327 Grand Boulevard for the applicant. that's one of the better presentations I've seen. Both of both of your staff people on both of those items. So well done. And working with them they really did a nice job and David and it you know, to get to this point I can't tell you how much work it is to get these conditions together and everybody works together and I I just want to take that opportunity because I don't really have a presentation at this point. Um but I wanted to say that to staff because really great to work with and those are very good presentations. Um yes, we did meet

   2:14:44with the emergency management already, um Andrew Fossa. I called him and said, Hey I want to meet with you and he called me back and said why? Never had anybody asked to meet with him and show give him an emergency management plan excuse me, emergency evacuation plan before he ever even asked for one. So they already have one, um, that they're reviewing and they want to use it as a sample for everybody else. So just wanted to tell that story publicly because it uh He was happy to meet with us and it was a good collaboration. Um with regard to the language,

   2:15:14David, we worked back here for about a half an hour with language. Um It's we're gonna need to work with you offline. Um I guess it leaves two options. The option I'd like is that if you would so want to move this forward for approval, it'll be subject to working out the additional language to condition 36A with the County Attorney's Office. Um it's just a pro ma pro programmatic thing about when we do this agreement with the

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:15:39Well I guess I was gonna try to simplify our barber because My only concern with relying on K is I don't know what the legislature is going to do or not do with K. Would your client agree to just a simple statement that the applicant, developer Shall not apply for the affordable housing property tax exemption in section one ninety six point nineteen seventy eight Florida statutes, similar to what we did with the other project. project.

   2:16:06of agreements or anything else. It's just He won't apply for the property tax exemption regardless of what Future steps.

   Starkey

   2:16:14Stand by. While she's doing that um Could you put up uh Google maps of that area? Denise, did you get my email?

   2:16:27Um

   MarianoChair

   2:16:28I'm gonna ask for we take a five minute break. Oh okay. You've gotta go, I've gotta go. So let's take a five minute break. Right this second? Right

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:16:35now. Okay, right now they can't think.

   2:16:41Okay. I'm going to

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:16:43go

   MarianoChair

   2:16:44Yeah, yeah.

   Starkey

   2:16:50Right, why you didn't react.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:16:52Apparently I made of something different material.

   2:16:59Thank you.

   2:20:24I don't know if you're not. Yeah, but it's good

   2:30:30So we need to have this conversation later.

   Ed Zodian

   2:30:34I need to

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:30:35okay so

   MarianoChair

   2:30:38Well, Carbella's gonna bring it up.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:30:40Have you made it?

   MarianoChair

   2:30:46Okay. Does the applicant wants to continue?

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:30:49So despite my efforts to channel a competent affordable housing attorney, I'm not. On that side of it. So we need to continue if we could so that we can work with uh the county attorney's office to get the language right. So

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:31:06But I think Barbara and her client understand the board's intent. It's just that they don't want to mess things up with the way it's worded. So but the board has been very clear that you don't want them to utilize property tax exemption. They've committed they're not gonna use the property tax exemption They've got to make sure they get the language correctly.

   MarianoChair

   2:31:23Can we put it if they Do you want to And take that approach that it comes back to the board.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:31:30Well I'm not sure if they want to come back to the board. I'm sure

   MarianoChair

   2:31:32they don't.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:31:42So that's implicit. If you incondition it saying they won't do it They'll have to come back to you. To do it. To use the property tax exemption. That being said, I'm not sure their issue is not utilizing the property exemption 'cause they already did a PowerPoint saying they're don't not going to use it. Right. I just think they want to make sure it's worded properly so that Maybe I think they may be worried about precluding themselves from other funding sources. I'm not sure what the concern is. But if the applicant's asking for continuance,

   2:32:13I support it because I don't want to be a little bit more than a little bit. Then to mess up their own project. Well you want to continue it. Continued to what, two weeks? Hi,

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:32:21isn't that an easy sentence to crack? No, it's really not. Wait, I've been trying to

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:32:25I offered an easy sentence, but apparently

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:32:27it was

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:32:27too easy for them. So I think

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:32:30they have lawyers that specialize in this stuff and they just, you know, want to make sure that they do it and not me.

   MarianoChair

   2:32:35Okay. Is two is two weeks okay?

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:32:36Two weeks is fine.

   MarianoChair

   2:32:38Okay. Uh let's let's go.

   Starkey

   2:32:41The fifth of September I believe. September fifth. No, and Date City. In Date City, one thirty.

   MarianoChair

   2:32:47I'm I'm okay with the Dade City just because we've gone through the whole dialogue with it. And we're

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   2:32:53Well you could cl you could close you could close the public hearing if you want to. That way you're not conducting a new public hearing.

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:32:59you won't Okay. There's no public

   MarianoChair

   2:33:01hearing, you're okay doing that. So before we continue it then, uh anything else you want to add?

   Starkey

   2:33:05No.

   MarianoChair

   2:33:06All right. Commissioner Starkey did you want to add something else?

   Starkey

   2:33:08No, I just would rather oh yeah I did. Okay. Can you show can you show that map? Sorry. Uh the I Google Google maps of this location. I just wanna uh

   2:33:25Show you something as we talk about adding traffic onto the roads, another way to relieve Traffic. And there there's a couple problems out in this neighborhood and Some pri previous boards Did some things which I would never agree to today. Um Okay, I need them. The other view.

   2:33:47Satellite view. And then I'm gonna ask you to zoom out just a little bit. No but don't go north, go go the other way. No, that way. Okay. I want to add what I'd like you to add is the Holiday Rec Center. Which is to the north.

   2:34:11Still a little to the north. Okay, you see it up there, the Ben Harrell Recreational Complex? If you look where where this Land is. gonna be, where this development's gonna be. And and I told you about this easement that's going that the county owns. And you can maybe zoom in on that easement a along

   2:34:33It's so so there's a Duke corridor. Okay, come come a little south now. Right. So there's a Due Corridor running along here and then it Keep going moving south. There's the park. And you see this road that's coming down here from the park? It's kind of a dirt road maybe. I don't know if it's paved or not that one. If we just Keep going down. If we just put find a way there's a little bit of water right there. But If we just put some kind of little

   2:35:03bridge over that channel or canal. It's not very big. All these kids down here can ride their bikes to to their soccer practice and their baseball practice and basketball and not have to get out and drive all the way round. Get into the park. 'Cause that's county owned property already. So Well we got penny

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:35:28for pests. Is there a trail there right now?

   Starkey

   2:35:30It's it's it's mowed grass. It's you can ride a bike on it. It's not wet. It's I've hiked on it and walked on it and

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:35:38So it's just for pedestrian.

   Starkey

   2:35:41Um it's just land that it's just an easement that we own. I don't know I don't know why we own it.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   2:35:46There's a utility easement there, if I'm not mistaken.

   Starkey

   2:35:48It's so what there's utilities underneath it? Yes. And we mow it and I'm I'm saying they c they can ride it today. They just have to be able to get across that little canal down there on the end. So

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:36:02Well let's just have staff look at that and when we come back with the meeting let's have an answer. We can do that. Okay.

   MarianoChair

   2:36:09I mean that penny for Pasco money we put in for trails for our transportation component and just like I I was saying earlier, let's go look at doing these things.

   Starkey

   2:36:16You can buy a ready made bridge and just pop it in.

   MarianoChair

   2:36:22So we're ready to public comment. Anyone here to speak to this item? Anyone signed up?

   Starkey

   2:36:27Well, we had three people, but I think they all off. Jay Bartels, Grace Elmore, and Susan Conrad. I do not see them in the audience anymore. Okay.

   MarianoChair

   2:36:38So no one in the audience will speak? No. No one on WebEx?

   Starkey

   2:36:41No one on WebEx.

   MarianoChair

   2:36:42To the board.

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:36:44I'd like to move to continue this to the meeting in Dade City. Is that September what?

   Barbara Wilhite

   2:36:51Okay. Staff was a little worried about the two week turnaround on paperwork with their process. So

   2:37:00So do you think they'd be happier if it was a month and ninety five?

   OakleyVice Chair

   2:37:03That's fine. Okay, I'll move that we continue to September nineteenth in New Port Richey at One thirty.

   Starkey

   2:37:11Thank you. Okay, District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman.

   Weightman

   2:37:16Two.

   Starkey

   2:37:16District three, Commissioner Starkey.

   Weightman

   2:37:18I didn't vote.

   Starkey

   2:37:20I sorry.

   Weightman

   2:37:22I was just gonna say thank you to Ms. Will Hight and The DM team for looking into

   2:37:31Being uh Working with us on it. So I

   Starkey

   2:37:37Uh I think District Three, I'm gonna say it again, Commissioner Starkey. I said I. Okay, thank you. District four, Commissioner Bradford.

   2:37:46District five Chairman Mariano.

3. 3Sep 19, 2023
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   Zoning Amendment (Regular) – Dominium Anclote MPUD … 228 Multi- Family Dwelling Units. Units

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