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Zoning Amendment (Regular) – Dominium Anclote MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – District School Board of Pasco County – A Rezoning Request from an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to Allow for the Maximum Development of 228 Multi- Family Dwelling Units

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDD-23-7703District 3

What the county recorded

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Staff recommendation

Approval with Conditions

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This case, across meetings

PDD-23-7703 in full →

PDD-23-7703 was taken up 3 times between Jul 20, 2023 and Sep 19, 2023 — this is appearance 2.

  1. Jul 20, 2023PlanningP15No disposition in the minutes
  2. Aug 22, 2023BoardP76No disposition in the minutesthis item
  3. Sep 19, 2023BoardC12Approved

What was said

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Planning and Development staff

Good afternoon, William from Million Planning and Development. Fortunately for us, my colleagues did a pretty great job going over this one. So I will run through it kind of quickly and touch on some things that maybe they didn't cover to avoid some redundancies.

So you've all you're everybody's already familiar with the location. Um so this was the site of the old bluffs at at uh Gulf Side MPD that was approved in nineteen ninety-seven.

Of course the uh the overall location area and context map showing the schools as well as the trail and the Duke Energy easement. The zoning.

sorry, sorry, tell me to slow down at any time.

Starkey

I think that that is our easement to the east of the Duke easement.

Planning and Development staff

Yes, uh so directly to the east of the Duke Ener Duke Energy uh property, there's the Pasco facilities property, and then further to the east of that is the Vertical Bridge property that is a platted lot within the Holiday Lakes Estates neighborhood that they use to access that cell tower to the north.

Starkey

So that's a great opportunity for a trail one day. day. Even if it's an off-road trail, just an unpaved trail.

Planning and Development staff

Okay. This is the zoning map.

So the applicant does have two variations from the land development code with this project, one from 9016 D11, street design and dedication, the other from 805.6 restrictions on wetland, uh post-development wetland and upland buffers. So the staff analysis for both of these uh sections We kind of just covered uh for 90160 eleven. So there's an existing wetland mitigation area on the eastern portion of the property that abuts the Duke easement. As well as that platted lot that Vertical Bridge

owns that does prevent a fully functional access to the east. There's that existing neighborhood to the south that's already platted that prevents the connection to the south. And from 805.6, this is a multifamily project, and this uh variation from the code is To allow this to not be platted and to be under common ownership, the developer may enter into a reciprocal easement maintenance agreement in the form acceptable to the county.

This is the master plan. And this is the zoomed in version of the master plan. You can see the um pedestrian connection to the south. There's an existing five foot sidewalk that will connect. this project to the school that's immediately to the west and to the north in the conditions of approval there's an eight foot um path it's going in alongside the access way. That will allow the citizens that live in this community to access the Anklow

Trail, which is on the west side of Sweet Briar Drive.

This is the potential emergency access that the client or that the applicant is exploring. Oh. With Duke to see if it's possible to have an emergency access. Of course that's all subject to Duke and Vertical Bridge. uh agreeing with this and they're exploring that at the time of PSP or PDP.

This is a contingency of the Planning Commission. It was to Oh. fully lay out what the additional enhancements to the buffering needed to be as shown on the master plan. You can see here that it's shade trees every 30 feet with palm trees, a six foot opaque wall, and a continuous row of hedges.

And it is noted that that buffer, like was said by Contessa from Dominium, doesn't extend an additional 15 feet onto the school's existing property, uh just to buffer that last lot through an easement with the school.

Uh a couple other things that uh that weren't uh talked about in the other two presentations. Uh this project is um Going to comply with LDC Section 1103 Hurricane Hazards. They have uh they're required to submit a site-specific evacuation plan to the Office of Emergency Management due to their proximity to the coast and the coast coastal high hazard area. Uh they are also going to be paying into the hurricane preparedness mitigation fees pursuant to

LDC 1307.2.

With that that comes to you with a recommendation of approval fr with conditions from the Planning Commission and PDD Uh that also encompasses the condition that you guys talked about with the comprehensive plan amendment.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Are you t are you talking about the the planning? Yes,

Planning and Development staff

uh okay. Of course.

Does anybody have any questions for me?

MarianoChair

Any questions for staff?

Starkey

No, but I'm gonna show you something when Barbara's done.

Planning and Development staff

Okay.

MarianoChair

Okay.

Barbara Wilhite

Barbara Will High 6327 Grand Boulevard for the applicant. that's one of the better presentations I've seen. Both of both of your staff people on both of those items. So well done. And working with them they really did a nice job and David and it you know, to get to this point I can't tell you how much work it is to get these conditions together and everybody works together and I I just want to take that opportunity because I don't really have a presentation at this point. Um but I wanted to say that to staff because really great to work with and those are very good presentations. Um yes, we did meet

with the emergency management already, um Andrew Fossa. I called him and said, Hey I want to meet with you and he called me back and said why? Never had anybody asked to meet with him and show give him an emergency management plan excuse me, emergency evacuation plan before he ever even asked for one. So they already have one, um, that they're reviewing and they want to use it as a sample for everybody else. So just wanted to tell that story publicly because it uh He was happy to meet with us and it was a good collaboration. Um with regard to the language,

David, we worked back here for about a half an hour with language. Um It's we're gonna need to work with you offline. Um I guess it leaves two options. The option I'd like is that if you would so want to move this forward for approval, it'll be subject to working out the additional language to condition 36A with the County Attorney's Office. Um it's just a pro ma pro programmatic thing about when we do this agreement with the

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well I guess I was gonna try to simplify our barber because My only concern with relying on K is I don't know what the legislature is going to do or not do with K. Would your client agree to just a simple statement that the applicant, developer Shall not apply for the affordable housing property tax exemption in section one ninety six point nineteen seventy eight Florida statutes, similar to what we did with the other project. project.

of agreements or anything else. It's just He won't apply for the property tax exemption regardless of what Future steps.

Starkey

Stand by. While she's doing that um Could you put up uh Google maps of that area? Denise, did you get my email?

Um

MarianoChair

I'm gonna ask for we take a five minute break. Oh okay. You've gotta go, I've gotta go. So let's take a five minute break. Right this second? Right

OakleyVice Chair

now. Okay, right now they can't think.

Okay. I'm going to

Unidentified speakerVoice B

go

MarianoChair

Yeah, yeah.

Starkey

Right, why you didn't react.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Apparently I made of something different material.

Thank you.

I don't know if you're not. Yeah, but it's good

So we need to have this conversation later.

Ed Zodian

I need to

Unidentified speakerVoice A

okay so

MarianoChair

Well, Carbella's gonna bring it up.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Have you made it?

MarianoChair

Okay. Does the applicant wants to continue?

Barbara Wilhite

So despite my efforts to channel a competent affordable housing attorney, I'm not. On that side of it. So we need to continue if we could so that we can work with uh the county attorney's office to get the language right. So

Unidentified speakerVoice A

But I think Barbara and her client understand the board's intent. It's just that they don't want to mess things up with the way it's worded. So but the board has been very clear that you don't want them to utilize property tax exemption. They've committed they're not gonna use the property tax exemption They've got to make sure they get the language correctly.

MarianoChair

Can we put it if they Do you want to And take that approach that it comes back to the board.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well I'm not sure if they want to come back to the board. I'm sure

MarianoChair

they don't.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So that's implicit. If you incondition it saying they won't do it They'll have to come back to you. To do it. To use the property tax exemption. That being said, I'm not sure their issue is not utilizing the property exemption 'cause they already did a PowerPoint saying they're don't not going to use it. Right. I just think they want to make sure it's worded properly so that Maybe I think they may be worried about precluding themselves from other funding sources. I'm not sure what the concern is. But if the applicant's asking for continuance,

I support it because I don't want to be a little bit more than a little bit. Then to mess up their own project. Well you want to continue it. Continued to what, two weeks? Hi,

Barbara Wilhite

isn't that an easy sentence to crack? No, it's really not. Wait, I've been trying to

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I offered an easy sentence, but apparently

Barbara Wilhite

it was

Unidentified speakerVoice A

too easy for them. So I think

Barbara Wilhite

they have lawyers that specialize in this stuff and they just, you know, want to make sure that they do it and not me.

MarianoChair

Okay. Is two is two weeks okay?

Barbara Wilhite

Two weeks is fine.

MarianoChair

Okay. Uh let's let's go.

Starkey

The fifth of September I believe. September fifth. No, and Date City. In Date City, one thirty.

MarianoChair

I'm I'm okay with the Dade City just because we've gone through the whole dialogue with it. And we're

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well you could cl you could close you could close the public hearing if you want to. That way you're not conducting a new public hearing.

OakleyVice Chair

you won't Okay. There's no public

MarianoChair

hearing, you're okay doing that. So before we continue it then, uh anything else you want to add?

Starkey

No.

MarianoChair

All right. Commissioner Starkey did you want to add something else?

Starkey

No, I just would rather oh yeah I did. Okay. Can you show can you show that map? Sorry. Uh the I Google Google maps of this location. I just wanna uh

Show you something as we talk about adding traffic onto the roads, another way to relieve Traffic. And there there's a couple problems out in this neighborhood and Some pri previous boards Did some things which I would never agree to today. Um Okay, I need them. The other view.

Satellite view. And then I'm gonna ask you to zoom out just a little bit. No but don't go north, go go the other way. No, that way. Okay. I want to add what I'd like you to add is the Holiday Rec Center. Which is to the north.

Still a little to the north. Okay, you see it up there, the Ben Harrell Recreational Complex? If you look where where this Land is. gonna be, where this development's gonna be. And and I told you about this easement that's going that the county owns. And you can maybe zoom in on that easement a along

It's so so there's a Duke corridor. Okay, come come a little south now. Right. So there's a Due Corridor running along here and then it Keep going moving south. There's the park. And you see this road that's coming down here from the park? It's kind of a dirt road maybe. I don't know if it's paved or not that one. If we just Keep going down. If we just put find a way there's a little bit of water right there. But If we just put some kind of little

bridge over that channel or canal. It's not very big. All these kids down here can ride their bikes to to their soccer practice and their baseball practice and basketball and not have to get out and drive all the way round. Get into the park. 'Cause that's county owned property already. So Well we got penny

OakleyVice Chair

for pests. Is there a trail there right now?

Starkey

It's it's it's mowed grass. It's you can ride a bike on it. It's not wet. It's I've hiked on it and walked on it and

OakleyVice Chair

So it's just for pedestrian.

Starkey

Um it's just land that it's just an easement that we own. I don't know I don't know why we own it.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

There's a utility easement there, if I'm not mistaken.

Starkey

It's so what there's utilities underneath it? Yes. And we mow it and I'm I'm saying they c they can ride it today. They just have to be able to get across that little canal down there on the end. So

OakleyVice Chair

Well let's just have staff look at that and when we come back with the meeting let's have an answer. We can do that. Okay.

MarianoChair

I mean that penny for Pasco money we put in for trails for our transportation component and just like I I was saying earlier, let's go look at doing these things.

Starkey

You can buy a ready made bridge and just pop it in.

MarianoChair

So we're ready to public comment. Anyone here to speak to this item? Anyone signed up?

Starkey

Well, we had three people, but I think they all off. Jay Bartels, Grace Elmore, and Susan Conrad. I do not see them in the audience anymore. Okay.

MarianoChair

So no one in the audience will speak? No. No one on WebEx?

Starkey

No one on WebEx.

MarianoChair

To the board.

OakleyVice Chair

I'd like to move to continue this to the meeting in Dade City. Is that September what?

Barbara Wilhite

Okay. Staff was a little worried about the two week turnaround on paperwork with their process. So

So do you think they'd be happier if it was a month and ninety five?

OakleyVice Chair

That's fine. Okay, I'll move that we continue to September nineteenth in New Port Richey at One thirty.

Starkey

Thank you. Okay, District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman.

Weightman

Two.

Starkey

District three, Commissioner Starkey.

Weightman

I didn't vote.

Starkey

I sorry.

Weightman

I was just gonna say thank you to Ms. Will Hight and The DM team for looking into

Being uh Working with us on it. So I

Starkey

Uh I think District Three, I'm gonna say it again, Commissioner Starkey. I said I. Okay, thank you. District four, Commissioner Bradford.

District five Chairman Mariano.