PDD-24-0009

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3 appearances between Dec 7, 2023 and Jan 23, 2024, at 2 boards — continued 1 time.

OutcomeAdopted by the Board of County Commissioners on Jan 23, 2024

Approved to adopt by roll call vote.

Official title

Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Consent) – CPAS23(08) Hudson Family Trail - Providing for A Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 04) Changing From RES-1 (Residential 1 Du/Ga) To RES-3 (Residential 3 Du/Ga) On Approximately 38.71 Acres Of Real Property Located North Of Hudson Avenue And 1.68 Miles West of Hays Road.

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1Dec 7, 2023
Planning CommissionPC18Consent agendaNo disposition in the minutes
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2Jan 9, 2024
Board of County CommissionersAP142Public hearingContinued
An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive ~~Plan Amendment (Consent) – CPAS23(08) Hudson Family Trail -~~ Plan: Providing for A Comprehensive … And 1.68 Miles West of Of Hays Road.
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Approved to continue the item to the January 23, 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey with Commissioner Bradford absent from the vote.
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3Jan 23, 2024
Board of County CommissionersP37Public hearingAdopted
An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive ~~Plan Amendment (Consent) – CPAS23(08) Hudson Family Trail -~~ Plan: Providing for A Comprehensive … West of Hays Road.
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Approved to adopt by roll call vote.
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Madam Clerk
P 37, proof of publication, Tampa Bay Times, November 22nd, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. The item was continued from the January 9th, 2024 BCC meeting to today.
Denise
Mr. Chair, uh P thirty seven, we're gonna move that till after P forty one so that we can hear P thirty seven together with um the actual rezoning item, which is P forty eight. So if we can move on to P38, please. Okay.
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Denise
P P thirty seven. I
Unidentified speakerVoice A
apologize.
Denise
I said
Unidentified speakerVoice A
P38 by the state. You already did C C ten. Um you called for a motion on C ten. It's been approved. So we need to go back to 37.
Ron OakleyChair
Oh gotcha. Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
All right, gotcha.
Ron OakleyChair
All right. So we're at what which one now?
Denise
We're at P thirty seven and then that will be followed by P forty eight.
Ron OakleyChair
Okay. All right. P thirty seven.
Madam Clerk
P-37, proof of publication, Tampa Bay Times, November 22nd, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. The item was continued from the January 9th, 2024 BCC meeting to today.
Denise
P37 is PDD 240009. Today we're asking that you take public comment and you adopt it by adopt this item by roll call vote. It's an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map 2-15 as sheet four, changing from res one residential one dwelling units per gross acre to res three residential three dwelling units per gross acre on approximately 38.71 acres of Of real property located north of Hust Hudson Avenue and 1.68 miles west of Hayes Road. This item comes here with a recommendation
of approved that you find it consistent with the comp. The recommendation that they found it consistent with the comprehensive plan and recommend approval to the board by the local planning agency who heard this item in December of 2023. Mr. Chairman
Madam Clerk
Mariano
Denise
is that these are fifties and sixties. These are going to be fifties and sixties. Yes. Thank you.
Ron OakleyChair
Okay.
Uh anyone in the audience to speak to this item?
Jack Mariano
Mr. Chairman Mariano is there's a couple of things I want to address in the Zoning on P forty eight. Um I know it was just an adjunction, but there are some things before we did one, I'd rather do both together. So P forty eight I w I'd like to talk about that before we actually move forward with this here.
Ron OakleyChair
Doing P thirty seven right now, I believe, aren't we? Right. But the zoning amendment coming behind it.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
So I think what the commissioner is asking is that we you not take action on B thirty seven thirty-seven until you hear the rezoning and then take separate motions on thirty-seven and forty-eight once you finish the zoning hearing.
Ron OakleyChair
Move to uh P forty eight.
Madam Clerk
Uh proof of publication.
Kathryn Starkey
You've taken
Unidentified speakerVoice A
public comment on this.
Ron OakleyChair
Or we can come back
Kathryn Starkey
to public comment?
Ron OakleyChair
No, we're
not going to be able to do that.
Is there any public comment here for uh this item thirty-seven? Seeing none, we'll move on to B forty eight.
Madam Clerk
P forty-eight, proof of publication, Tampa Bay Times, November 22nd, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. The item was continued from January 9, 2024, BCC meeting to today.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Mr. Chairman, since you're starting on your rezoning agendas, would you like me to do the procedures? Well since we draw
Ron OakleyChair
from
Unidentified speakerVoice A
yes sir,
Ron OakleyChair
I believe I'm ready. There
Unidentified speakerVoice A
are two rezoning agendas regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the Board without further presentation. if staff or planning commission has recommended denial. Or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation, the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative. and the applicant will be given three
minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and and address and
whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearing. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the Board's Land Development Code for rezoning. Madam Clerk, would you like to swear the public in?
Madam Clerk
Yes. Anyone wishing to speak and be sworn in, please stand.
Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth? So help you God. When you come to the podium to speak for the record, please indicate whether you have been sworn, state your name and address, and spell your last name. Thank you.
Ron OakleyChair
Okay. So
Denise
So we're gonna do P forty eight.
Ron OakleyChair
P forty eight, uh yeah.
Denise
Okay, so P forty eight is P D D twenty four seven seven three two, Hudson Family Trail, MPD, Master Plan Unit Development. HWHGC N G A L L C It's for rezoning from an AC agricultural district to an MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District, which will allow the development of 116 single-family detached units, which are going to be 60-foot wide wide lots and 50-foot-foot wide lots per the conditions of approval included in your agenda packet. This comes through the recommendation of approval with conditions. From
the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission as well.
Ron OakleyChair
Is this gonna be by road car or
Denise
This is a regular regular vote and I will say it's listed as regular, but I don't believe there's anyone here signed that has
Ron OakleyChair
the power to speak. Well you check. This is a public hearing. Does anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item?
See a no one. Is anyone sort of
Jack Mariano
WebEx? I would I would like to have the applicant come up. I'd like to address some concerns I have. And uh as the applicant does come up, I want to say that I had a very good meeting with them. They actually addressed some very strong concerns. But in light of some of the testimony we heard today, uh at public comment this morning, I want to do a l try to do a little bit more. And see if they're willing to, and I think they are. Um On this property, um if you could can we put an aerial shot up? On this property
it's on Hudson Avenue. It's three point six miles away from the entrance of Cobra Way to Hudson High School. There are no trails, uh sidewalks. There's no lighting, uh very little lighting I should say, going up and down. Across the streets, Lakeside, which is another development. Now because it's three point six miles away, the kids will be bust. But as we all know, sometimes kids will find another another way to school. Um The applicant has agreed to put a was it a ten foot wide?
Barbara Wilhite
Ten feet.
Jack Mariano
Ten foot wide sidewalk out front, which is great. But it it stops at the property line. I would like us to be able to use uh the rest of mobility fees that would be generated by the project and at least take at least an eight foot wide trail as far down toward the school as we can. Uh in the future, any other developments coming in the area I'd like to do the same. Um They've agreed to put s uh street lights out in front, which I think is good. But I think we need to make sure we have a room for a bus stop, maybe at the entryway, whatever for the Plus to
pick the kids up and take 'em right to school. And I think we need to have one looked at for the other side at some point. So when the kids get dropped off they can go across. even some crossing lights at that point might be a good idea for both sides so the kids crossing over one way or the other uh can get back and forth. Um
So would that maybe the applicant could comment to those first?
Sure, Chicken.
Barbara Wilhite
Commissioners, we also understand the need for public safety and that's why my my client agreed to go from five feet sidewalk to ten foot and to do it. To the extent that we have mobility fees that we can use off-site and we don't exceed those credits, we're happy to, you know, continue the sidewalk. eight feet or ten feet, whatever the county ultimately wants. Streetlights, if we need to add some streetlights, we're already committed to doing streetlights on Hudson Avenue to get this area lit. And then we c we can
work we can work with Go Pasco and see what uh what their needs are as well. We actually have a condition in our conditions of approval that require us to coordinate with Go Pasco already. So
Jack Mariano
Well with Go Pasco the the problem is Go Pasco doesn't have a bus route that goes there.
Barbara Wilhite
You're right. So it's a just a school school.
Jack Mariano
So if there's a way to get credits to actually use the same credits for the Stop either way, that that's fine too. But I I do want to just Put that extra protection level that's out there. The kids need this a safe place to be able to get on it. We're gonna put this extra on. We need to take every every measure we can. Right. Mr. Cabal.
Mike Carballa
Yeah, I just want to add to the to the conversation here with when it comes to using mobility fees and mobility fee credits. And I think what you're suggesting, Commissioner, is the mobility fee credit the mobility fees generated by the site itself. Correct. Yeah. I'm just gonna the board the board obviously the pleasure of the board is the pleasure of the board, but I will I will say that the structure that we have for mobility fees, we have districts and these mobility fees pump into these districts and they do do projects that are already uh under consideration through through
engineering services, major major projects. So if we divert funds by doing this, that's fine. It just it just takes away some revenue. I think this I don't know how many single family homes have going to be one sixteen. One hundred and sixteen. Uh you know that's that's a small amount, but I I just I want to let the board know that the the structure of the mobility fees and the mobility fee districts is to work on the collective and not necessarily individual projects projects per se. Um No, yeah I'm just I'm just gonna be able to do that.
Ron OakleyChair
I'm understanding that he meant the mobility fields generated by this project. So
Unidentified speakerVoice B
So if I could add to that. I think Barbara's commitment was to use the bike ped portion of the mobility fee for as much as that would go, which is a little bit less of an impact To our CIP than if it's all mobility fees.
Barbara Wilhite
That's the portion that we could use to do this. Okay.
Jack Mariano
And and and and I'll say for the for the future as we come up with any projects in the northwest of this area that needs it for both to the north end of the south and any projects coming in, I'm going to be looking to use uh the pedestrian part of this as well to try to get those built as quick as we can as we try to look to improve safety across the board. And we may get some state grants that that come in and help us do to do it as well, so be it. We'll use those two.
Barbara Wilhite
We can do that. If that's included in the motion, we'll work with the language with staff to get that into the MPUD before it's signed.
Ron OakleyChair
That'll be fine.
Barbara Wilhite
Question?
Kathryn Starkey
Um just looking at your Plan here. Um I do see you're not connecting to anyone in the north. That's correct. Actually, but there's connections to the east and west to put a start making a grid to get everyone off so
Kathryn Starkey
that everyone doesn't have to use Hudson Avenue. Staff make sure we address those when we
Barbara Wilhite
did.
Ron OakleyChair
Okay.
So I gotta take public comment on this item. Anyone here to speak to public comment? For this item?
Jack Mariano
Seeing no one? So I'll make a motion to approve with the conditions of working to get a bus stop on uh both sides of the road if possible for the project. Also an eight foot wide sidewalk using the pedestrian part of the mobility fees going down as far as they can towards Corbow Way and street lights are to be done as well. Along the property line.
Madam Clerk
I want to mention for the record that P forty eight had email correspondence from staff.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Get a second and then I'll then I'll clarify. If get a second on his motion and then pass realize I got a second. Uh Commissioner Oak School bus stop. Yes. Okay. So
Yeah. So I d I just don't
Jack Mariano
Okay, no appreciate that. Yeah, school it was meant to be a school bus stop.
Ron OakleyChair
All right. right. I've got a motion and a second. Is this roll call or not? Not
Denise
um the top plan.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Yes, you have to take so
Let's table this motion. Okay, table this one. And go back to thirty seven. And you need a motion on thirty-eight for the comp plant. Thirty seven. Thirty-seven, sorry.
Ron OakleyChair
Move approval. I got a motion and a second on uh P thirty-seven.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
And that's a roll call vote.
Ron OakleyChair
This is a roll call vote.
Madam Clerk
District two, Commissioner Weightman.
Ron OakleyChair
Aye.
Madam Clerk
District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District 5, Commissioner Mariano?
Ron OakleyChair
Aye.
Madam Clerk
District 1, Chairman Oakley.
Ron OakleyChair
Aye. Passes 5-0.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
And then take forty-eight off the table and the motion is that's pending is for approval as modified by Commissioner Marion. Right.
Ron OakleyChair
Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
So
Ron OakleyChair
That's just regular vote on this one. Okay. So I got a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed like say? Motion passed five zero. Thank you very much. Okay.
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