PDD-24-0041

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1. 1Oct 18, 2023
   Village of Pasadena Hills Planning and PolicyP6Public hearingNo outcome in the minutes

   An Ordinance By The … District, Revisions To Exhibits 602-A, 602-A 602-B, 602-D and 602-E, … And An Effective Date.

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2. 2Nov 2, 2023
   Planning CommissionPC11Consent agendaNo outcome in the minutes

   An Ordinance By The … District, Revisions To Exhibits 602-A, 602-A 602-B, 602-D and 602-E, … for Applicability, Repealer, Severability, Page 4 of 5 Inclusion Into The Land … And An Effective Date.

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   Gavin Covey

   1:31:18Yeah, PC eleven uh is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners, amending the Pasco County Land Development Code Section 602. J. Bin Harrell uh Villages of Pasadena Hills, Stewardship District, revisions to exhibit six oh two A, six oh two B, six oh two D and six oh two E, and amending other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, separability, and inclusion into the land development code in an effective date. So this is PDV 240041, BOPH Stewardship District

   1:31:48Amendment for the Hamilton Oak S PD. So this one we're doing three things. We're adding those additional parcels into the actual tax parcel uh exhibit. Second thing as we're doing the map amendments now for the master railway plan. And then uh third, which is not associated with the Hamilton Oakes thing, is we're allowing the property owner's group's credit exhibit to be administratively approved. So here's an exhibit just showing the addition of the parcels redlined into the actual exhibit.

   1:32:20Um here in the south you can see the addition of the parcels we just talked about. And then again the addition of the parcels we just talked about. and surprise the addition of the same parcels. The Master Riplan, Master Rory Plan, the key map. And again in the master royal way. Master Rory Plan Exhibit A.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:32:43okay.

   Gavin Covey

   1:32:44Except for e

   1:32:47And then the 2065 master order plan intersection details.

   1:32:52And so we're also amending Exhibit six oh two D, like I said earlier, uh amending the uh POG credit list. Um with the fee creditly coming online uh a bunch of transactions will happen, you know, people buying and selling credits. So instead of having us come through the public hearing process over and over again, we're just asking that PDD administratively approve this.

   1:33:15And this comes with a recommendation of approval of the Stewardship District Amendment to the Board of County Commissioners.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:33:21All right. Thank you. Any questions? Anybody in the audience have a comment?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:30Okay.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:33:31If there's no further discussion, I hear a motion. Motion to approve. Second. We have a motion of second. No further discussion, all in favor signify for saying aye. Aye. Hose like sign.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:44Okay,

   Charles GreyChair

   1:33:44emotion carries. Um

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:48Do you

3. 3Nov 14, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP94Public hearingNo action

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   No action was required as this was the first Public Hearing. The adoption hearing was scheduled for the January 9, 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City.

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   Jack MarianoChair

   1:02:20back. When he goes back, we'll change. All right, P ninety four, we're approve.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:02:24Yes, Mr. Chairman P ninety four was published in Tampa Bay Times on October 4th, 2023, in my affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

   Denise

   1:02:33Right, item P94 is the companion to P93. You're expanding the boundary of uh Pasadena Hills, villages Pasadena Hills area, so you have to modify the land development code uh to effectuate that. Uh today um there's no action required. This is the first reading on the item. Um the adoption is scheduled for January 9, 2024. This was presented to the Pasadena Hills Planet Policy. Committee on 1018 of 23 and to the Planning Commission who found it consistent with a comprehensive

   1:03:03plan on 112 of 2023. It's PDD 240041, which is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners, amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 602, J. Ben Harrow Villages of Pasadena Hills, Stewardship Districts, revisions to exhibits 602A, 602B, 602D, 602. and amend and amending other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, severability, inclusion into land development code and an effective date. Again, please accept public comment. No action is required. As

   1:03:33this is the first reading, the adoption is set for 1-9 of 24 at 130 in Date City.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:03:39Okay. Any questions for staff? Hmm. No. Okay. There's a public hearing. Anyone here to speak to item P ninety four?

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:03:47I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for P ninety four.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:03:50Okay. We shall close public comment to the board. Move approved.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:03:54No. No, this is this was your first public hearing. You don't Oh we don't have to have a month action.

   1:04:05No action required.

   Denise

   1:04:06I I have I have a question.

   1:04:11Second hearing is one nine of twenty-four accord according to my colleague Gavin Covey.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:04:16'Cause we're looking at the master roadway plan map here. And um I know that Clinton is a state road now, not

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:04:26right?

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:04:26Not

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:04:26Cl well Clinton is, but this is McKay part of the

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:04:30Well it's the part that doesn't have a multi-use trail on it. Part of this, you know, was left out of the the multi-use trail was not built. But I wanna make sure that it's memorialized here somewhere that that that isn't it isn't that

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:04:46Orange Belt Trail is coming in on

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:04:48County Road. It's in Orangebelt.

   1:04:52The Clinton Avenue extension. Um but the Is the map this road here?

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:04:57We're not it

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:04:58does that go through here or do I have that mist am I mistaken? Yeah.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:05:02This road we've been talking about is McCabe and it goes to

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:05:05No I I've not talked about that road It's it Are we just going to be able to do that? That's fifty two.

   Gavin Covey

   1:05:10That's state road fifty two.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:05:12Are we modifying this at all?

   Gavin Covey

   1:05:14We are only adding the additional parcels from the Hamilton Oaks M PUDs. So we're not modifying any typicals or anything else. No, we're really just adding those additional parcels into the into the district.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:05:27And McKay fronts on what road?

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:05:30State Road fifty two. It goes from the interstate all the way to Prospect Road.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:05:36It's it's the uh our problem child is gonna be from Prospect to 301. Because we don't have the right-of-way

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:05:43and that's that's Clinton Avenue.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:05:45Right. So we have the right-of-way to put that multi-use in. on the north side of Clinton from Curley to Prospect. Where I think we're gonna have to come across the street and go on the south side is from Prospect to 301.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:06:01Can

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:06:01we put this up on

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:06:01a map so we can look at this?

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:06:04And so anyone who's coming in for development on the south side of 52 from Prospect to 301, we need to be making sure we're getting enough right away. to fix that mistake. Because I think it'd be really expensive to put it on the north side because they have that concrete wall, right? They have that that there's a big wall.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:06:27I'm gonna go do the L's fraction.

   1:06:30that's McCabe there where the concrete wall is.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:06:36When on that tri went on that route with D O T It looked very difficult to put it on the north side. And it was said that they thought we'd have to is someone putting up the map? Yeah, that's someone. We'd have to come on to the south side. And I I have no

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:06:51idea if we showed any ship. I drive that way but I don't pay attention to the

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:06:56outside

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:06:56of that road. No.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:06:58So

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:07:00I'll skip well.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:07:01Um so where's Prospect?

   1:07:07Alright, so

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:07:08And that walls back to the to the west.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:07:11Yeah, to the east.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:07:14No. Not the wall.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:07:17They said they had the right-of-way that where they thought they could come in and put it back in. between Curley and Prospect. And I'm sorry, Adam I know Tina's our our person who else here knows about trails in the county. Who's your road person that would know this, Mike?

   1:07:36Alright, so Because it stopped at curly, unbeknownst to all of us. Um there From what I understand there's room on the north side. between from curly to prospect, but we run into trouble from prospect to three oh one. And so we just need our planners and our staff just needs to know that anything that comes in on the south side From Prospect Three O One we just need a little more space.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:08:06Okay.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:08:07Otherwise it dead ends at Prospect. And the idea is to connect it to the trail that connects to Zephyrhills and Dade City. At three oh one.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:08:16I don't know where you're talking about a wall though on on Prospect to three oh one?

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:08:20I'm talking about continuing that multi-use path. To make sure it connects to the three oh one trim.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:08:30Right.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:08:31And it it it has a problem from prospect to three oh one to be on the north side like the rest of it is

   Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

   1:08:40Yes, correct. The the multi-use path that was built in conjunction with F DOT terminates right around by it's prospect I'm sorry at Curley. Um if you pay if you if you look as you're driving you'll see it on the north side of the road. There's a there's a wide multi-use path. It stops at Curley, but there what the commissioner is saying is is that there is enough land on the north side to continue that trail all the way to prospect. At Prospect, however, there is limited right-of-way on the north side. And what the commissioner is asking is as we go through the plans

   1:09:11for properties and parcels that abut McCabe State Road 52 uh is to make sure that there's an accommodation for multi-use path on the south side. So there would have to be a crossing of of State Road 52 to the south side and to continue that. So that way the multi-use path can continue from Prospect to Highway 301.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:09:30Yeah I I wouldn't think there was enough room on the north side, but I don't know. No. What's causing the problem?

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:09:35Retention wall that's very high. Well

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:09:37retention wall.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:09:38Yeah, and it's high.

   Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

   1:09:39It's just built with the it was the construction of of the road and the the alignment and it was just a technical Matter.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:09:46But the retention wall is on the I Freddy parcel that comes through That's McCabe. Before you get to Prospect, that's where a retention wall is.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:09:59If I could

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:09:59if I

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:10:00could

   1:10:00recommend all that, you can't do that.

   Ron OakleyVice ChairDisputed

   1:10:03Commissioner, you're yes ma'am, your point's well taken.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:10:07Let me draw this to a close because we've got a lot of things going on right now. And I just wanted to make sure I was understanding right, but the new State Road 52, call it McCabe, call it Clinton. It's the same road. I just was making sure I wasn't misunderstanding what you were both talking about. I see it now clearly it's what I thought it was. Uh so I think it's probably a good idea as we've we're seeing and we heard the mayor from San Antonio come today. Let's go talk about what's going on in that road. I know we got alternatives we're looking at, so it might be good to get advanced of a full public hearing, but maybe Maybe

   1:10:37start a discussion amongst us as a workshop or some sort um to talk about what's going on in this whole area 'cause uh it's definitely confusing from from what I'm s seeing and hearing at this point.

4. 4Jan 9, 2024
   Board of County CommissionersP54Public hearingContinued

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   Approved to continue the item to the January 23, 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey.

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   Kathryn Starkey

   19:58Uh again P fifty four was not noticed and will be continued to a future meeting and be renoticed.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   20:04Okay. Same thing. So January. So move the item be continued to the January twenty-third uh Board of County Commissioners meeting in Newport Ritchie at one thirty or soon thereafter in the same maybe yeah.

   Seth Weightman

   20:17Move to accept the county uh attorney's motion.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   20:20Second.

   Ron OakleyChair

   20:21Okay, got a motion and second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed like sign. Hear none. Uh motion pass 5-0. Move on to P55.

   Kathryn Starkey

   20:32P55 advertising the Tampa Bay Times, November 22nd, 2023, and by affidavit, certified mails and site postings.

5. 5Jan 23, 2024
   Board of County CommissionersP39Public hearingAdopted

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   Approved to adopt by roll call vote.

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   Madam Clerk

   13:58P thirty nine. P

   Ron OakleyChair

   13:59thirty nine.

   Madam Clerk

   14:00Proof of publication, Tampa Bay Times, January tenth, twenty twenty four.

   Denise

   14:04P39 is PDD 240041. On this item, we're asking that you please take public comment and adopt by a roll call vote. It's an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners, amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 602, J. Ben Harrell Villages of Pasadena Hills, Stewardship District, revisions to exhibit 602A. 602B, 602D, 602E, and amending other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, severability, inclusion into land development code, and an effective date. This

   14:34was presented to the Pasadena Hills Planning and Policy Committee on October 18th, 23, the local planning agency on 1102 of 23, and you heard it off through first reading on November 11th of 23. Again, please take public comment. Comment and adopt by roll call vote.

   Ron OakleyChair

   14:49Is anyone signed up for this item? No one?

   Madam Clerk

   14:52No one has signed up.

   Ron OakleyChair

   14:53Uh anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item? Seeing no one and nobody on WebEx.

   Madam Clerk

   15:00No one's on WebEx.

   Ron OakleyChair

   15:01Okay. Uh

   15:06Need a motion from the board looking. Move approval. Move approval. Second. My motion second. Is this by roll call or yes by roll call? By roll call post.

   Madam Clerk

   15:14District two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. District 4, Commissioner Bradford.

   Ron OakleyChair

   15:20Aye.

   Madam Clerk

   15:20District 5, Commissioner Mariano.

   Ron OakleyChair

   15:22Aye.

   Madam Clerk

   15:23District 1, Chairman Oakley.

   Ron OakleyChair

   15:24Aye. Motion pass 5-0. Move on to P40.