An Ordinance By The Pasco County Board of County Commissioners Amending the Pasco County Land Development Code Section 602, J. “Ben” Harrill Villages of Pasadena Hills Stewardship District, Revisions To Exhibits 602-A, 602-B, 602-D and 602-E, And Amending Other Sections, As Necessary, For Internal Consistency, Providing for Applicability, Repealer, Severability, Inclusion Into The Land Development Code, And An Effective Date.
What the county recorded
Staff recommendation
No Action Required
DispositionNo action
No action was required as this was the first Public Hearing. The adoption hearing was scheduled for the January 9, 2024 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City.
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The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Nov 14, 2023
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The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Nov 14, 2023
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PDD-24-0041 in full →PDD-24-0041 was taken up 5 times between Oct 18, 2023 and Jan 23, 2024, continued 1 time — this is appearance 3.
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back. When he goes back, we'll change. All right, P ninety four, we're approve.
Yes, Mr. Chairman P ninety four was published in Tampa Bay Times on October 4th, 2023, in my affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.
Right, item P94 is the companion to P93. You're expanding the boundary of uh Pasadena Hills, villages Pasadena Hills area, so you have to modify the land development code uh to effectuate that. Uh today um there's no action required. This is the first reading on the item. Um the adoption is scheduled for January 9, 2024. This was presented to the Pasadena Hills Planet Policy. Committee on 1018 of 23 and to the Planning Commission who found it consistent with a comprehensive
plan on 112 of 2023. It's PDD 240041, which is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners, amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 602, J. Ben Harrow Villages of Pasadena Hills, Stewardship Districts, revisions to exhibits 602A, 602B, 602D, 602. and amend and amending other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, severability, inclusion into land development code and an effective date. Again, please accept public comment. No action is required. As
this is the first reading, the adoption is set for 1-9 of 24 at 130 in Date City.
Okay. Any questions for staff? Hmm. No. Okay. There's a public hearing. Anyone here to speak to item P ninety four?
I have no one signed up and no one on WebEx for P ninety four.
Okay. We shall close public comment to the board. Move approved.
No. No, this is this was your first public hearing. You don't Oh we don't have to have a month action.
No action required.
I I have I have a question.
Second hearing is one nine of twenty-four accord according to my colleague Gavin Covey.
'Cause we're looking at the master roadway plan map here. And um I know that Clinton is a state road now, not
right?
Not
Cl well Clinton is, but this is McKay part of the
Well it's the part that doesn't have a multi-use trail on it. Part of this, you know, was left out of the the multi-use trail was not built. But I wanna make sure that it's memorialized here somewhere that that that isn't it isn't that
Orange Belt Trail is coming in on
County Road. It's in Orangebelt.
The Clinton Avenue extension. Um but the Is the map this road here?
We're not it
does that go through here or do I have that mist am I mistaken? Yeah.
This road we've been talking about is McCabe and it goes to
No I I've not talked about that road It's it Are we just going to be able to do that? That's fifty two.
That's state road fifty two.
Are we modifying this at all?
We are only adding the additional parcels from the Hamilton Oaks M PUDs. So we're not modifying any typicals or anything else. No, we're really just adding those additional parcels into the into the district.
And McKay fronts on what road?
State Road fifty two. It goes from the interstate all the way to Prospect Road.
It's it's the uh our problem child is gonna be from Prospect to 301. Because we don't have the right-of-way
and that's that's Clinton Avenue.
Right. So we have the right-of-way to put that multi-use in. on the north side of Clinton from Curley to Prospect. Where I think we're gonna have to come across the street and go on the south side is from Prospect to 301.
Can
we put this up on
a map so we can look at this?
And so anyone who's coming in for development on the south side of 52 from Prospect to 301, we need to be making sure we're getting enough right away. to fix that mistake. Because I think it'd be really expensive to put it on the north side because they have that concrete wall, right? They have that that there's a big wall.
I'm gonna go do the L's fraction.
that's McCabe there where the concrete wall is.
When on that tri went on that route with D O T It looked very difficult to put it on the north side. And it was said that they thought we'd have to is someone putting up the map? Yeah, that's someone. We'd have to come on to the south side. And I I have no
idea if we showed any ship. I drive that way but I don't pay attention to the
outside
of that road. No.
So
I'll skip well.
Um so where's Prospect?
Alright, so
And that walls back to the to the west.
Yeah, to the east.
No. Not the wall.
They said they had the right-of-way that where they thought they could come in and put it back in. between Curley and Prospect. And I'm sorry, Adam I know Tina's our our person who else here knows about trails in the county. Who's your road person that would know this, Mike?
Alright, so Because it stopped at curly, unbeknownst to all of us. Um there From what I understand there's room on the north side. between from curly to prospect, but we run into trouble from prospect to three oh one. And so we just need our planners and our staff just needs to know that anything that comes in on the south side From Prospect Three O One we just need a little more space.
Okay.
Otherwise it dead ends at Prospect. And the idea is to connect it to the trail that connects to Zephyrhills and Dade City. At three oh one.
I don't know where you're talking about a wall though on on Prospect to three oh one?
I'm talking about continuing that multi-use path. To make sure it connects to the three oh one trim.
Right.
And it it it has a problem from prospect to three oh one to be on the north side like the rest of it is
Yes, correct. The the multi-use path that was built in conjunction with F DOT terminates right around by it's prospect I'm sorry at Curley. Um if you pay if you if you look as you're driving you'll see it on the north side of the road. There's a there's a wide multi-use path. It stops at Curley, but there what the commissioner is saying is is that there is enough land on the north side to continue that trail all the way to prospect. At Prospect, however, there is limited right-of-way on the north side. And what the commissioner is asking is as we go through the plans
for properties and parcels that abut McCabe State Road 52 uh is to make sure that there's an accommodation for multi-use path on the south side. So there would have to be a crossing of of State Road 52 to the south side and to continue that. So that way the multi-use path can continue from Prospect to Highway 301.
Yeah I I wouldn't think there was enough room on the north side, but I don't know. No. What's causing the problem?
Retention wall that's very high. Well
retention wall.
Yeah, and it's high.
It's just built with the it was the construction of of the road and the the alignment and it was just a technical Matter.
But the retention wall is on the I Freddy parcel that comes through That's McCabe. Before you get to Prospect, that's where a retention wall is.
If I could
if I
could
recommend all that, you can't do that.
Commissioner, you're yes ma'am, your point's well taken.
Let me draw this to a close because we've got a lot of things going on right now. And I just wanted to make sure I was understanding right, but the new State Road 52, call it McCabe, call it Clinton. It's the same road. I just was making sure I wasn't misunderstanding what you were both talking about. I see it now clearly it's what I thought it was. Uh so I think it's probably a good idea as we've we're seeing and we heard the mayor from San Antonio come today. Let's go talk about what's going on in that road. I know we got alternatives we're looking at, so it might be good to get advanced of a full public hearing, but maybe Maybe
start a discussion amongst us as a workshop or some sort um to talk about what's going on in this whole area 'cause uh it's definitely confusing from from what I'm s seeing and hearing at this point.