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Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Consent) - CPAL21(04) Chapter 7 Transportation Element - Providing for Text Amendments to Chapter 7, Transportation Element, Table 7-2A, Corridor Preservation and Repealing Table 7-2B; Providing for Map Amendments to the Highway Vision Plan and Functional Class (Map 7-36) and the Transportation Corridor Preservation Map (Map 7-35); and Providing for Additional Text Amendments as Necessary for Internal Consistency

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDD-22-0058District All

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PDD-22-0058 was taken up 2 times between Dec 7, 2021 and Feb 8, 2022 — this is appearance 1.

  1. Dec 7, 2021BoardP119Approvedthis item
  2. Feb 8, 2022BoardP34Adopted

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1/2Taken up at Afternoon session, 45:48

StarkeyVice Chair

And we have P one one nine.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Item P one nineteen was published in the Tampa Bay Times on October twentieth, twenty twenty-one.

Denise

On this item, this is the transmittal. Uh so we're just asking you to accept public comment. So there's no action required today, just authorized, actually authorized transmittal to the Department of Economic Opportunity and other reviewing agencies. PDD 220058, comprehensive plan amendments, C Pal 2104, Chapter 7 Transportation Element, providing for text amendments to Chapter 7 Transportation Element, Table 7-2A, quarter preservation, repealing. Table 7-2B providing for map amendments amendments to Vision Highway, the Highway Vision Plan and Functional Class

Map 7-36 and the Transportation Corridor Preservation Maps, Map 7-37, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency. I do want to mention that exhibits B and C have been modified. Um, the table and map Plath Road extension from Decubelus to Little Road was Incorrectly listed as 80 feet of right-of-way. It's been modified to 60 feet of right-of-way. Those modifications have been provided to the clerk's office.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah.

Denise

Are

StarkeyVice Chair

they gonna put

Denise

that up here? 'Cause they're only showing one picture.

StarkeyVice Chair

This

Denise

plast this is the pages, um it should be page nineteen of your attachment for exhibit B.

That one uh where it calls out Plath Road extension from Decubelist to Little should be sixty feet, not eighty feet.

StarkeyVice Chair

Okay, is there anyone who wants to speak? Um We do have someone signed up. Okay, we'll poll one one eight. We're gonna be here a long time. Oh sorry, one one nine. Okay. Uh one we'll pull one one nine. All right, one two zero.

2/2Taken up again at Afternoon session, 1:01:05

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Item one nineteen, we have Rob Um Perrill signed up to speak to this item.

Rob Park

Rob Park, [address removed], I'm sworn.

I'm specifically concerned with my small world where I live on [address removed]. And more broadly, if these are consistencies just where I live, how much of the rest of the proposed changes are flawed? First, Aaron Cutoff is a collector road. In an addendum to the existing Chapter seven transportation element, there is wording, quote, collectors serve as connecting links between local streets and arterials, end quote. The wording goes on quote collectors do

not form continuous network and generally discourage through traffic, end quote. Aaron cut off. Connects arterial roads US forty one and state road fifty two. Ninety nine point nine percent of the traffic on air and cutoff is arterial traffic. there doesn't seem to be any discouraging of through traffic. In fact, the proposed change to table seven two increases air and cutoff from two lanes to four lanes. This contradicts

what your predecessors put in place. and what your predecessors put in writing. In the proposed text amendments to Chapter seven, the second paragraph ends with the words, quote, Meet established community goals and perver preserving the quality of life, end quote. How does putting a four lane road a hundred feet from my front door preserve quality of life. I have lived on [address removed] for forty years. aside from Outlaw

Ridge and the abomination of Caliente and Aaron Cutoff, There has been no change on air and cutoff to justify the increased traffic. Second. At a January 2020 MPO meeting, I pointed out that a portion of the Collier Parkway extension had been eliminated, but was still drawn on the proposed maps. This was confirmed by an executive planner at the MPO, and it was understood the map would be corrected. Proposed

maps 735 and 736 are not corrected. In addition, both maps show Caliente as an existing collector road from US 41 to Aaron Cutoff. It is not a through road. Both maps show future Collier Parkway extension, different from the eliminated segment, as a four lane collector road about a half a mile west of Aaron Cutoff. Why two four lane roads that start and end together? Third, emphasis should not be

in slicing up the county with these so-called corridors. Emphasis should be on keeping arterial traffic on arterial roads. Emphasis should be on maintaining collector roads and not as shortcuts in between arterial roads. Emphasis should be on maintaining the vision of your predecessors. and still add your vibrance. Fourth, I urge this board not to pass these amendments until they are corrected, scrutinized, and verified. Thanks.

StarkeyVice Chair

Uh I'm sorry, you're not allowed to clap here, so plea please uh don't do that. Um Does someone want to answer if uh Erin wrote

Unidentified speakerVoice C

if there's any more

StarkeyVice Chair

Is there anyone else who wants to speak to this?

Okay. Can someone uh Well I'm gonna close for close it for public comment and could you please talk about Aaron Cutoff?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Hello everyone. This is Amir Jamali, uh with Planning and Development Department. Uh actually I wanna say and make a clarification. This table is not for actual um projects. This table preserves the right-of-way for future possible improvements if we wanna widen or expand the roadways. So it is the all can be an ultimate design for that roadways. Uh so so right now as of today the

county has no plan to widen the roadways uh And if we want to pl uh plan any uh expansion then we can discuss later. So I just want to make sure I think this comment is not related to the Quidditch Preservation table because it's for the ultimate uh design for the when the county is picked up.

Denise

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice E

Any questions? Commissioner Starkey. Yes.

Fitzpatrick

Are are you planning to build a road there? Are you just widening it and getting right away for a vis planning of a visionary road?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

So the vision is to uh construct that roadway as four lane if we have more developments in that area. If more development comes in into the picture for sure we need more capacity improvements to carry the traffic.

StarkeyVice Chair

Okay.

Terry's answering my question. You can come up. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're good. Do I uh any more questions? I'll entertain a motion.

Unidentified speakerVoice F

Second move. Second.