Conditional Use Request (Consent) - Duke Energy Florida, Inc. - 315-Foot Above-Ground-Level (AGL) Self-Supported Lattice Wireless Communications Facility (WCF) in an A-C Agricultural District - Southeast Pasco County - On the West Side of Dean Dairy Road, Approximately 320 Feet North of Eiland Boulevard File Number PDD22-CU14

33:43Item P ninety seven was published in the Tampa Times on June twenty sixth, twenty twenty two.

33:49So P97 is PDD 22CU42. It's 14, sorry, conditional use for Duke Energy Florida for a 315-foot above-ground level self-supported lattice wireless communications facility in an AC agricultural district. This item comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from the Pasadena Health Planning and Policy Committee, who heard the item on May 18th. twenty twenty two and from the planning and development department.

34:19Okay, so I have questions on this one and I reached out to Duke but now I realize uh didn't know it was coming so fast they have we have not had the chance to comment. It's not a

34:28guide.

34:29It's is

34:29it guide? It's not guide, it's self-supported. So it doesn't have the the guy wires and self-supported. So the trend in the industry

34:38uh was to put the P W S F lower. And this is isn't this higher than our typical cell tower?

34:46Yeah, so so I I we do definitely have Duke here and we have folks on that are uh radio frequency consultants who can talk to you or radio frequency engineers who can talk to you about the trend in the industry. Um I can tell you about the trend in the industry based on my 30-year experience in the industry is that the trend in the industry is moving away from flagpole towers into Into either monopoles. Sometimes they'll do close mount monopoles, which means that the actual antenna is

35:16close to the actual pole. Or you'll see this type of use. Additionally, in our pre-2012 restated land development code, this type of facility would have been something we called an excluded facility because it was for a utility provider. But once 2000 the pre-st the restated land development code came into effect January, 2012. Um all the excluded facilities, that concept went away, so they're coming in for a conditional use. So what I'm trying to

35:47say is that prior to 2012, you probably wouldn't have seen this provider the this type of application. It would have been a permitted use and just had to gone have gone through the preliminary site plan and the building permit process. This this one's a little different in That the provider is actually there's co-locations. I believe ATT is like your your anchor tenant. So you're gonna have different um wireless communication providers co-locating on this tower based on

36:17what the land development code requires, based on this height, it would be a total of it would be four on the tower.

36:23Okay, so um is Duke using this for some internal purpose that they can't use an idea height tower that we allow?

36:31Yeah, this is actually a like a a regional facility for for Duke. This this location is as you could see um and in your in your agenda packet it explains that this is actually a facility that is um is used by Duke. Um for for different purposes. It's um one thing I do want to say because I did uh visit the site, it's it's gated, so it doesn't have public access other than for their employees and the folks who use the lay down yard that's on the facility and all

37:01that. Um it's the uh it's considered the Duke Energy Zephyrhills complex. It's gated, it's got a um metal building, a lay-down yard, it's got a pole barn structure, and it's got uh covered work areas there. Um So yes, Duke will be using it for their their facility needs. And so is this this height was normal, this was an allowable

37:24height within our system? In this

37:26youth in this area? So so when you say allowable height within the system, the reason why we're here, it's a conditional use. So basically um and in your finding of facts um in the analysis I'll t tell you where it is. We actually have a radio frequen frequency consultant. Who we contact and say, Hey, based on what you're seeing out there, what do you think the need is for this tower. Um and basically Uh Mister Monzingo with Omnicom Consulting Group

37:57said that. That that that there's no other towers out there that meet Duke's needs to co-locate and actually expand its network. So it was found to For there to be a need for this particular

38:11tower. Right. And the reason the reason I'm asked these questions, and Denise might remember, but uh and Commissioner Mariano might remember. When I started seeing a Casco one of the One of the protections we put in place was um the visual assault from cell towers. So yeah, that's just my concern. So I always try and look at 'em. But I know they're needed, I love my phone. And uh certainly dukes gotta be able to communicate if we have a hurricane.

38:38Yeah.

38:39Um we don't want them to not be able to communicate to each other. Yeah. I just questioning the height between

38:45since we're talking about Um I think we're gonna continue to see more and more of these. I mean, that's what I want to learn. I have

38:53pending applications in so many places.

38:55Right. Yeah. With the amount of people moving to Pasco County and so many people having devices of multiple devices these days. I'm not gonna name my carrier. But uh they could use a little help.

39:07Yeah, but they use they're much lower.

39:09Um that's a little sarcasm, but um but my my service for example, um of one of the largest, if not the largest carry in the nation, has gone down because of the amount of people that have moved to the area, they can't handle it. Yeah. They're gonna have to build more. And as you know, we're not gonna get away from these, we're gonna see more of 'em. That's just bottom line. And we have to have 'em unfortunately. But

39:30Commissioner Moore, unless something has changed i in the science of this They're closer together and lower. That's why you see the five G. A street high and then every once in a while they have a tower.

39:48Well that's

39:48that's that's what I'm learning here. Some

39:51something's changed. Yeah, you're not gonna see as high as this 'cause I this is Duke and remember excluded facility and that type of thing.

39:57Yeah.

39:58Um and remember I don't know if you recall um um twenty seventeen, um we approved one for the county's P twenty five system and that was as tall as this one. I know

40:08there's three fifty some exceptions, but generally

40:11my experience

40:12and all the research I did and and

40:14changed

40:15over the years is that the PWSFs were coming down. You can look around, you can see cell towers where it's empty empty from half the way the older ones they're empty on the top and the the the arrays came down but anyway yeah

40:28and it's really interesting you're seeing the opposite because these companies the anchor tenant is actually um vying for that top spot that's where the anchor tenant wants to be all the way at the top.

40:38Alright so I will not vote for a guide tower. I'll vote for a lattice tower. But I'm all vote for a guide tower, so just letting y'all know that and anyone who's applying. Okay. Um all right, this is on consent. Does anyone else want to speak to this item?

40:55Uh Ms. Hernandez, do you have a correction to read on the record?

40:58I do. I have a correction for the resolution in in error because this went to the Pasadena House Planning and Policy Committee. It erroneously stated Planning Commission. So I changed that section in the therefore it be resolved section, and that has been provided to the clerk's office. Additionally, there's a sheet that's called the signature sheet from the to the board. Board of County Commissioners in the event that you were to disagree with the Pasadena Hills Planning and Policy Committee. I switched out Planning Commission for Pasadena Hills Planning and Policy Committee. Thank

41:28you so much for mentioning that. All right, no one here and no one online speaking opposition.

41:32That is correct. Okay.

41:33With approv move to approve it, consent agenda. Second.

41:37All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you. Okay, P ninety eight.