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Zoning Amendment (Regular) – Eagle II Industrial EC-MPUD Employment Center Master Planned Unit Development – 3KS Family LLLP – A Rezoning Request from an A-C Agricultural to an EC-MPUD Employment Center Master Planned Unit Development District to Allow for the Development of 2,000,000 Square Feet of Corporate Business Park, Target Business, and Light Industrial Uses and 150,000 Square Feet of Support/Commercial Office Use on Approximately 321.13 Acres

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDD-22-7585District 2

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Approval with Conditions

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DispositionApproved

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PDD-22-7585 in full →

PDD-22-7585 was taken up 5 times between May 19, 2022 and Aug 24, 2022, continued 3 times — this is appearance 5.

  1. May 19, 2022PlanningPC5Continued
  2. Jun 16, 2022PlanningP2No disposition in the minutes
  3. Jun 21, 2022BoardP69Continued
  4. Aug 9, 2022BoardP87Continued
  5. Aug 24, 2022BoardP76Approvedthis item

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StarkeyChair

Okay, seventy six.

StarkeyChair

Uh this matter was continued from the June twenty-first Board of County Commissioners meeting to August 9th, and then again at that meeting to this day and publication was provided for the original hearing. Back in June.

Planning and Development staff

So change it. Eagles. Good afternoon, William for Million Planning and Development. Uh there has been changes to the uh conditions approval, if I can enter those into the record. Yes, it is a natural resources condition number twelve.

StarkeyChair

Do we have to have a motion to receive?

Second. All in favor? Aye.

Planning and Development staff

That's in your area.

This is item P D D twenty two seventy-five eighty-five, Eagle Two Industrial E C and P D. Here's the location map south of State Road fifty two to the west of Bellamy Brothers.

The current zoning district is AC, to the north is AR, to the east is M Pud, to the south is AC To the west is A C. The future land use of this parcel is EC. To the north is Res One. To the south is res three, to the east is E C to the west is E C

Proposes a rezoning request from AC Agricultural to an EC MPUD Employment Center Master Plan Unit Development District to allow for the development of two million square feet of corporate business park, target business, light industrial uses, and 150,000 square feet of support commercial on approximately 321.13 acres.

This is the CPEV sub-area map at the top. Is the current CPEV sub-area map and on the bottom is proposed after these changes to Eagle Two in terms of entitlements.

This is the master plan.

The proposed development is within the CPEV Central Pasco Employment Village, and the parcels are currently vacant. They are being used for agricultural pursuits. Effective August 24, 2021, the landowners within this Eagle II ECM Puty entered into that certain exchange agreement for CPV master plan use designations for portions of Swope, Coca-Lacus, East parcels, which is now recorded in OR Book 10426, page 461 of public records of Pasco County, Florida.

Fitzpatrick

Can you go back to the last slide please for a moment? The one before that with the master plan?

Planning and Development staff

This one? Master plan?

Fitzpatrick

Okay. Thank you.

Planning and Development staff

The applicant is seeking the following variations from the Land Development Code, Section 805.6 and 902.2 M, to allow industrial parcels under single ownership to maintain their stormwater ponds, wetlands, and open space without having to plat them as separate tracks and conveyed to a separate entity for maintenance. All activity, maintenance, or restrictions in such areas shall be in accordance with the requirements of the Environmental Resource Permit.

The applicant has also submitted a non-substantial modification to the SR 52 Industrial Employment Center Master Plan Unit Development to revise the entitlements on Parcel 2 to be solely light industrial and increase the square footage from 482,780 to 700,000 square feet of light industrial. This will serve as the support commercial for both Eagle 1 and Eagle 2. It will all be allocated on the Eagle 2 MPUD. Going back. Eagle One is the all purple parcel.

that is directly abutting equal to to the east. You'll notice that the map is a little bit more. on top the red Shifts to all purple below, and it's because of this non substantial modification moving those support commercial entitlements to Eagle Two.

The County is prepared to purchase Orange Belt Trail right-of-way along the southern portion of both Eagle One and Eagle Two as set forth in the conditions of approval or has the option to use an existing easement. If the if agreement is reached with the beneficiary.

And that's a thirty foot easement.

And Pasco County would buy thirty feet north of that to make a total of sixty feet.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Uh I'll I w won't stop you until you're done with your presentation. Absolutely.

Planning and Development staff

This is a graphic depiction of that Orange Belt Trail. It's pretty hard to tell from here, but there's a hatched area that indicates the easement. And then you have the overall red area which would include the thirty feet north that the county has an option to purchase.

The proposed request is consistent with the Pasco County LDC Chapter 400 Subsection 402.2 Zoning Amendment MPUD Master Plan Unit Development and applicable provisions of the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. The Planning and Development Department recommends Approval with conditions. The Planning Commission voted three one for denial.

StarkeyChair

With the changes they voted three one?

Planning and Development staff

No. The changes happened prior to in between PC and BCC. It was denied on the fact of the trail.

StarkeyChair

And um

Um So I have questions. I don't know if the applicant wants to go first or would we ask our questions now? I would suggest you take the applicant's presentation. We'll have the applicant's presentation. And Mr. Karbala, who is gonna Besides me, speak about the trail on your staff. Who is your trail czar today? Sam?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Sam's here.

StarkeyChair

Sam. Okay.

Cynthia Speidel

Good afternoon. Uh Cynthia Spidel, Stearns Weaver, 401 East Jackson Street, and I have been sworn. Um we worked really hard to get to this point. We've worked out all issues. Um thank you very much. We want to thank uh William Vermillion, Brad Tippen, Terry Pittas, and David Goldstein and all of you for taking the time to work out these issues. And uh I have a full presentation, uh but that's at your at your pleasure if you'd like me to present that um or if you have any specific questions. But with that we um you know we just thank you for your time and we support staff's

recommendation of approval.

StarkeyChair

I guess um one of my first questions would be um if you have Uh if there's any objections from your neighbors on the

Cynthia Speidel

road, not to my knowledge, but I see one here. Yes. I just want to be sure. Um well he can speak for himself, but we have uh worked really hard. We've met with him subsequent to the planning commission meeting um to remove to move the road uh alignment again. Um during that call, they indicated that they were okay with that revised alignment, so we basically our revisions and resubmittle to the county based on that phone call. So what before you is based on what we understand they're okay with. And then we worked really hard with staff to come up with Orange Trail options.

And so like I said, we're very happy to answer any other questions and the landowners here as well. Okay, so do does anyone else have questions?

Moore

I just wanted to wait and hear from you know the public that's here to make sure we're all on the same page. I know we stated everybody worked hard to fix that road alignment. I know that was from me watching the Planning Commission meetings, that was obviously one of the um things that needed to get worked out um with your your neighbor. Um And then I know the trail was a big part of it too, so I guess I'm just waiting to hear those two items and have confirmation that everybody's on the same page now.

Cynthia Speidel

Right.

Moore

Um and I apologize if you know the purchase price or any additional um right away that we'd be purchasing as well. Well

StarkeyChair

that's what I'm gonna

Cynthia Speidel

uh have

Moore

Sam

Cynthia Speidel

talk about.

Moore

Yeah, so that uh those are the We seem to be on the same page.

Cynthia Speidel

So what we did for the right-of-way acquisition is we threw in the 30-foot easement for free. We based the additional 30 feet that you would be purchasing based on the comps in the area, and then averaged it over the over the 60 feet so that it would be comparable with what occurred to the west of the property. So that option's in there. But obviously if you can um get the easement or the beneficiary of the easement to allow you to use the trail, then obviously the client's willing to give that to you for free. Yeah. So and then I'll

reserve um any other additional comment based on rebuttal if that's okay. Okay.

StarkeyChair

Thanks, Cynthia. We boy, we put a lot of put a lot of hours into this one. Yeah.

Oakley

I think there was an issue about some of that right away because it's gonna be we were having to get right away over Tampa Bay right away.

StarkeyChair

So uh on that thirty foot easement on the bottom, um The um Saint Pete had the original uh Easement. And when Tampa Bay Water was formed that that uh language went over to Tampa Bay Water. And um Sam's been working very hard on this and um Tampa Bay Water has Agreed that They don't need the easement, so if you want to speak to that. Um right with our alignment?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Sam Bennick with uh engineering services. Um I can't say better than you, ma'am. Uh the Tampa Bay Water uh controls that easement. Um and and we did get response from Tampa Bay Water that they didn't object. They had some some pretty reasonable conditions that we would Yeah. Expected and would would comply with if we we did go ahead and locate a trail along that alignment.

StarkeyChair

Our next little challenge will be moving eastward. Um but we are gonna tackle that one next. Yeah. Um but I'm glad we have this one worked out. Commissioner Oakley.

Oakley

The vision road that I've seen on the maps that come through there, there's no set alignment of that because that doesn't matter. The vision road is

StarkeyChair

to the north now.

Oakley

But it's north of of where the That easement for the sidewalk.

StarkeyChair

Yes. Yeah. And that and that that vision road has a trail along it as well. So people can um will be able to live uh in the development and get to work without going on the road if they didn't want to.

Oakley

Well what I understand that. That easement for that roadway. It's not set in stone, so that doesn't mean it can't change or something.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Um

Oakley

that's my understanding.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Madam Clerk. The MPUD when when you approve this MPUD, you are effectively setting the alignment through this M P D. Okay,

Oakley

because I was told, oh no, there's nothing set in stone, but I will set it if it was.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

That was the reason the neighbor was objecting, because it was in fact setting the alignment of the roadway through this MPUD.

Oakley

Yeah, and I have concerns of setting alignment and then um Forcing that neighbor to do something he wouldn't want to do in his project coming forth without

Unidentified speakerVoice C

hear from him, but the applicant's representing that he's now okay with the alignment. But it d this will set the alignment. I

Oakley

want to be clear about

that.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I haven't I haven't heard that. I've heard it but I've not heard it from him.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Madam Chairman, maybe you ought to take public comment then.

StarkeyChair

Oh do you have a question for Sam? Yeah,

Moore

Sam sorry.

StarkeyChair

Can you come back up?

Moore

Yeah, sorry.

StarkeyChair

Take public comment afterwards.

Moore

All right.

Tell me again about the uh let's talk about the trail one more time. Okay.

StarkeyChair

Can you put the route

Moore

up,

StarkeyChair

please?

Moore

It okay, so the applicant said they um are they're giving thirty they're giving uh thirty feet Correct? Easement? Well, we gotta don't.

StarkeyChair

Can you go to

Moore

thirty? Yes.

StarkeyChair

Can you go to map?

Moore

An easement of thirty feet. But we would need to purchase the additional thirty feet.

StarkeyChair

No, we don't if we needed it.

Moore

So we I don't think so that's why I'm wondering if we don't so you're basically selling us we're not gonna need it now. That was

Fitzpatrick

Bellamy Brothers is all the way to the right.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

And I don't know if you if there's a a slide that has that condition language, but uh the the way that the condition is drafted,

Chairman

okay,

Unidentified speakerVoice B

it gives us the option um when notified by the applicant that a sale is pending, um, that uh there's a period where the county has the option to either um decide to not purchase right away or decide to purchase right away at that time. Right now our our study for this alignment is just getting underway and so um uh if If it's acceptable to everyone, I would suggest that we wait until the

the applicant has need for us to make a decision and based on the best information at that time we can either uh purchase at a price that has been negotiated and agreed to um or or opt to continue. This would allow us again to continue working with Tampa Bay Water and go from An email which is a I mean we we trust their their email but uh

Moore

we're trying to

Unidentified speakerVoice B

I had a conversation too.

Moore

Okay good part. No that's good because I know I'm just being honest. So the last thing I'd want to do, I mean, is have to buy a another thirty foot e additional thirty foot easement. at a current market rate with what it is now because it's the prices are inflated. So we lose

StarkeyChair

Yeah, so I'm I'm hoping she's getting the map up 'cause I wanna give you a pic a big picture of what's happening in in this area. So are are we putting maps on or Google Earth, whatever you want

Moore

to call

it? Yes, sir.

If you're looking at current valuations now in Pasco County What we would have paid two years ago or just be honest, when when the purchaser paid what they paid for it, you know, I mean it's it's inflated now. Uh so I would be very

Unidentified speakerVoice B

We did work with uh our

Moore

attorney's

Unidentified speakerVoice B

office and the ones that

Moore

are easement for a trail. I'm

Unidentified speakerVoice B

sorry, sorry.

Moore

I

be

I'd just be concerned paying that side of price for an easement for a trail.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Uh we I mean we did work with the the county staff who um have the we understand the the most direct um you know i uh understanding of that issue. And concluded that the um agreeing to a price now. while we we're not tied to having to purchase that right of way. was preferable to waiting and maybe having either a higher price later or getting into an extended debate about whether or

not the you know, what the definition of um you know fair market value is uh given where we are in our study, we now have a a clear understanding of what the cost of that right away would be. And so we can very accurately compare that against

Moore

So what's that number?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Um Ms.

Moore

So give me a total.

Well you can't talk from there, I mean sorry. Sorry. For the record.

Planning and Development staff

It's all of it is uh con both options are in condition thirty five with the prices. Okay, well just

Moore

give me the price. For I mean for the public and everybody else and

Chairman

Do you want to follow in fifty minutes?

Planning and Development staff

I'll get the exact number.

StarkeyChair

I hear rumbling.

Planning and Development staff

It's not added up in the condition. It's just uh five Five point seven four four acres times eighty one thousand. One hundred and twenty two.

Moore

Five. Five five times eight, is that what you're saying? So Yeah, five

Planning and Development staff

point six.

Moore

Let me let me do my math. Five times eight is four. And I'm gonna add three zeros. So four hundred thousand plus? Four sixty five. You're like

Cynthia Speidel

look

Moore

at

Cynthia Speidel

that.

You were faster than my calculator.

Planning and Development staff

Yeah.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, but I don't think we're gonna need it. Um so if you see Aaron cut off Kind of is on your left and up here is Tampa Sporting Clays.

Chairman

Yep.

StarkeyChair

But you don't want a trail going by. Um and I thought originally we were coming up that southern edge and I thought that was gonna be exciting. But Um The way uh We think it's gonna go, right, Sam? Is that we're gonna uh jump onto this Swift Mud Road going in Crot that's uh Cypress Creek, is that right? And it comes up And uh comes up and it comes and you see where it um I don't have a pointer but You can see where it

touches, yeah, right up there. And that's where we reconnect with the Orange Belt Trail. And head east. So um that's gonna be a beautiful ride through that through that park. So Well

Moore

M Madam Chairman I don't disagree with you in one bit. I I just don't wanna ha pay, you know, almost five hundred thousand dollars for

StarkeyChair

Well

Moore

there's

StarkeyChair

it's an easement that no one's ever used and um but when we've got permitted

Moore

But you feel confident that uh Tama Bay Water is going to

StarkeyChair

they already said it

Moore

pass it over then I clarified it. I'm sure the applicant would prefer not to have to sell it to us, so because probably wants to use the land anyway. I could be wrong, but I'm not sure if you're But I know that's part of the condition to allow that to happen if we need it. All right. You feel confident. I'll trust you.

StarkeyChair

So uh I I appreciate all the parties working hard together. And um getting everyone on the same page. And we thank Tampa Bay Water and Saint Pete as well. Um now's the time for public comment. Come on up, Andy.

Oakley

There's Ray.

Andy Joe Scaglione

Andy Juscaglione, I have been sworn in. Um I agree with Mr. Goldstein that the approval of this P MPDU D um excuse me MPUD sets the general alignment of the Vision Road with that understanding. I do not oppose a location of the interlock uh connectability between Eagle II and D and D Ranch, which is my which is our family, as shown on this uh M P U D site. Map. I'd like to thank um Mr. Goldstein and William and uh staff

for being uh uh I it's a shame that that this wasn't done at the Planning Commission, that it had to come to this point. There's been a lot of uh time and effort. and and uh of of my engineer, Dan Bergen and Matt Maggart. that I've had to spend to get to this point and it's it's uh it's it's I'm not happy that that it had to get to that point. Um I appreciate y'all looking after the taxpayers money. Uh Mr. Moore, Mr. Oakley and and Ms. Darkley that road uh uh the the uh trail would be beautiful,

but thank you for getting that because um I I was having some heartburn um as a taxpayer's paying eighty something thousand acre when it was just sold for twenty five thousand thousand um back in July of this of last year. So um um so anyway, thank you very, very much. Appreciate ya.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Thanks, Andy. Okay, is there anyone else that wishes to speak to this item?

All right, it is to the board. Where

Fitzpatrick

is the road that

StarkeyChair

He is now in agreement to it was shown um in his slide. Is it part of your presentation?

It's on this p here. I'll just hand you that. That's

Fitzpatrick

the

StarkeyChair

sliding show previously. Mm-hmm. Oh, they changed it a little bit. Okay. Can I take a motion?

Fitzpatrick

And he is in agreeance? Because he didn't say that.

Moore

No. Yeah, Madam Chairman I'm happy er the our parties were able to work together and get through this. I I don't disagree. I think I wish we could have probably I'm sure David w himself too probably wishes this would have not had a continue continue continued through the Planning Commission and But we are where we are now, so move for approval.

Oakley

Second.

StarkeyChair

All in favor?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

And that incre that includes the revised conditions that were passed out. Yes

it does. Okay.

Moore

I agree.

StarkeyChair

Correct.

Moore

Mr. Motion making it that is part of my motion, yes, Madam Chair. Thank you.

StarkeyChair

All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. All right, that one's done. We are putting a lot of jobs on the books today. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, folks.

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