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Conditional Use (Regular) – Ace Cheval, Inc/VB BTS, LLC/T-Mobile South, LLC – 195-Foot Above-Ground-Level Monopole Wireless Communications Facility (WCF) in a MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District – South Central Pasco County – On the North Side of 20 Mile Level Road, Approximately 1,550 Feet East of Collier Parkway File Number PDD23-CU11

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.District 2

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Starkey

Item P seventy was published in the Tampe Times on April nineteenth, twenty twenty-three, and July twenty-sixth, twenty twenty-three.

Item

Denise

P70 is PDD 23. C U11, its conditional use for 195-foot above ground level quantum wireless communication facility in an MPB Master Plan Unit Development District. The applicant is H. Chaval Inc., B B B T S LLC T Mobile LLC. The property is located in the South Park and Arid Urban Urban Service Area in South Central Pasco County on the north. set a 20-mile level road approximately 1,550 feet east of Collier Parkway. The surrounding zoning is

MPUD as you can tell to the north this is part of the Plantation Palms golf course and the Plantation Palms MPUD. To the south is AR and AC. And east and west is the east is the Plantation Palms Golf Course, West is Plantation Palms Golf Course. Future land use surrounding is Res 6, residential 6 dwelling units per Gross Acre. This is the aerial and access visual. Access to the overall site is through 20-mile-level road, which is a county-maintained local road with approximately 40 feet

of right-of-way. Access to the wireless communication facility license. that the uh leased area is proposed to a t through a twenty foot wide access and utility easement.

This basically shows what's surrounding the areas. You could tell the Plantation Palms golf course is to the north and the Plantation Palms MPUD. To the south is a Land O' Lakes Recreation Complex. And then there's some agricultural residential zoned parcels to the south as well.

It's just um showing the site plan showing where the uh the actual wireless communication facility and fence compound area will be based on the site, the location of the site.

So the site, as I stated before, consists of the Plantation Palms Golf Course maintenance facility within the Plantation Palms MPUD. I've explained what the surrounding areas characterized by the Plantation Palms Golf Course and the Land O'Chase Recreation conflicts. Wireless communications facilities are either permitted uses or conditional uses in all zoning districts and all future land use classifications. There was a neighborhood meeting that was held on January. January 25, 2023. There was notice made to the to the Pilot Country Airport in the Tampa North Aero Park because

it's within 10 nautical miles of those airports, and there was no comments received. There was a letter of support that is included in your agenda packet from the Plantation Palms Homeowners Association. There was a letter of objection that was received from property owners located approximately 450 feet northwest of the proposed compound area. Item was reviewed by Omnicom Consulting Group, which is our RF consultant, and they recommended approval of the conditional use. When the item went to the Planning Commission, the Planning

Commission added a condition that basically stated that prior to submittal the preliminary site plan, the owner's applicants shall submit to the county a survey, the survey results of the plantation palms residence. Plurality choice of the W of the wireless communication facility design based on four designs that were presented at the May 4th, 2023 Planning Commission. So those at the Planning Commission, and I'm sure the applicant will have more information on those designs, what was shown was a monopole, a shrouded

monopole, a bell tower, and a monopine. and um basically that the owners and or app the owners applicants would uh construct the wireless communication facility design which the per plurality of the residents chose. So this comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet. I'm here for any questions that you may have.

MarianoChair

Any questions to ask? No? Okay.

And to the opposite.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Good afternoon. I'm Matt Taniah John, 935 Main Street, Suite C4, Safety Harbor, Florida, 34695. As a point of order prior to my presentation, we have PowerPoint. All right, that's up and running. So as you heard, I come before you today with staff and planning commission, unanimous recommendations of approval for 195-foot-tall communication tower on L'Current. Currently planned to be a monopine on the service parcel for the Plantation Palms Golf

course, and that's parcel 20-26-19-a block of four zeros-00300-0041. Just keeping things brief, we meet the setbacks for the MPUD. Base of the tower will be enclosed by a PVC fence. The tower will be completely dark at night. You've heard all this stuff from your staff. Uh during planning commission we were asked to propose uh designs to the um

to the membership and the HOA coordinated a vote indicating that they would like it to be a monopline and we have provided uh we have provided photo simulations to that effect. Uh I have also provided since the Planning Commission uh a letter of intent from Verizon Wireless, and I'm going to proceed forwards now. So, this is just the aerial that you've been seeing. Um, and this was shown to the Planning Commission. The yellow arrow shows the proposed location of the monopine.

The purple area is the Orlando Lakes Recreation Center. Uh, the orange wire, the orange line is high voltage power lines. To the south is a gray arrow showing the location of the existing flagpole. It's currently trying to serve the plantation. Mm-hmm. Uh essentially what's going on is with a flagpole style communication tower, it's like putting your Wi-Fi router in your attic. So Essentially you cook the equipment is what happens. You cook the um computers and radios that are attached to the

um to the antennas. And they also need space in order to aim their um to aim their antennas to where the traffic is. The carriers fight the same concurrency battle that you face with your roads except over the air. And that's why they're trying to set up a deployment in this area with modern antennas so that way they can provide the bandwidth that they need in order to Keep up with traffic.

These are just closer views.

And all maps and aerials I show you uh up is north. The tower that is being replaced for T Mobile is eleven hundred and fifty feet to the south southwest, so that is within your fifteen hundred foot radius for the um Under your tower code to research the sites. Before this hit my desk, Team Mobile looked into expanding that tower. It did not work out, and so then they came to us. The only two carriers that are on that tower are Team Mobile and Verizon. Verizon has a couple more year left years left on their lease, but

they have provided a letter of intent to come off the flagpole tower and onto our tower. At that time the tower will be abandoned. Your tower code takes Over forward mobile.

This is just the zoning from your GIS. This is the future land use map from your GIS. This is a picture of a monopole, which is not uh this we're a monopine now. But anyways, just to run through the photo simulations for the monopine, you can see it here in the middle, and the canopy extends low enough that it is captured by the trees in the area, and you can see it just extends upwards like a normal pine. What? You can see another view, and this is actually close to where the uh neighbor objectors,

Tom and Don Lefeer, uh were. They're two house they're one house to the left. Um and the monopine was one of the ideas suggested by them and helped lead to the boat or discussed by them. This is at um

My apologies. This is another view. And you can see that the vegetation is blocking the base. Uh let me get my exact location. This is for me the court looking southwest. Banyan hill. You can see just moving away a bit. Uh the trees that are in between the houses and the tower provide very effective buffering. And then finally 20 mile level road. Uh just to run into the RF package. As I said, this is a replacement. You

can see a map showing the different sectors from the surrounding towers since they do deal with traffic. The tower that is in the middle, A2G7422C, is the existing flagpole tower, and particularly that yellow area to the north is burdened with traffic capacity. It's like a dysfunctional road, essentially. You can see the next Tower to the north is this red square with the letters A2G 0552B, and that is the next tower

north. It's trying to reach into the plantation palms area. It's the second best server, and it's picking up traffic from there. So increasing the capacity of the tower trying to serve plantation palms will also take traffic off of that and neighboring towers so they get more life out. Mm-hmm. This is Starling. This is what we call Starling data and this shows the strength of connections in the area. And you can see to the north that we have a mixture of connections that if you

have a clear line of sight, they're getting some okay connections, but you can also see connections that are poor. And that's the reds.

This is sector charting, so this is like looking at capacity. The blue lines

show the congestion threshold, and you can see that the existing flagpole on the existing flagpole is over its congestion levels.

These are the 4G coverage plots. I also have 5G coverage plots, but on 4G, which is essentially your low traffic coverage these days. We will get a little more expansion to the east and the west, so it will help with a little bit of it will help a little bit to the west. But when we go into 5G, which is the high traffic band, you can see a comparative plot showing that even if that fried pole were able to be upgraded, it could not reach north of plantation palms. You have a whole other subdivision up

there.

So the purple the blue arrow is pointing to the existing flagpole and it's theoretical because it assumes that we could even change it to a monopole. Or a monopole type setup. Underneath the monopine camouflaging is a monopoles arrangement. And then this shows the monopines location from the maintenance facility. You can see that we can resolve a gap in service to the north of plantation palms and exit in addition to the gap in plantation palms. You'll notice that these are

not perfect circles. That's because these frequencies are not like your television frequencies where you could take and put a uh signal like out in, you know, you could take and put a signal in Plant City and reach out to the greater Tampa Bay area. That's you know WTSP uh Channel 10 broadcast across all of Tampa Bay because they have a signal that grounds into Tampa Bay and it's much more strong than this. This is all low power stuff. And so things as simple as houses and leaves

can deflect most of the signals. And that's why you end up with this craggly looking layout.

Um so uh we had objectors from uh Tom and Don LaFury, however we have had the pleasure of working with the HOA and interfacing with our neighbors after our community meeting and after the Planning Commission meeting. Um And a vote was held. That led to the monopine communication tower the monopine style. And unless something has come in this morning that I'm unaware of, I have no objectors. Uh so with that I

am available for your questions. I have David Talbe available for your questions, and Bill Place, who is the owner of the golf course. I also have Jim Hammond who I believe is going to want to make a statement from the public. And that concludes my Direct presentation, I'm available for any questions you may have. Thank you.

MarianoChair

Any questions to the advocate? And I'd like to say um I think it did a great job. We had a communication so let's let's I just wanna review it with ya. One of the problems I had was having two cell towers so close to each other. Yes. And what what you did after we had our conversation, you went out and worked with the cell tower company and now After this tower gets built, T-Mobile will be there, Verizon's still gonna be there, and then within two years when that lease is up, Verizon then joins, that tower comes down. Correct. And I and I thank you

for listening and and making that happen. It's a very great saf safety thing I think for our kids and I appreciate your work on that. Thank you.

Starkey

How far away is your tower from the one in the park?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

It's eleven hundred and I can see that's

Starkey

within our fifteen hundred foot

Unidentified speakerVoice A

it is.

Starkey

And that's the job.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So it is within the 1500 foot range. Um we met your code in showing that we techn we fees it's not technologically able to hold, but going above and beyond the code we've worked to obtain the second carrier, they obviously will finalize that after it's approved. But um the reason it has to be so close is because since this is a concurrency project, it's very similar to how You have new State Road 52 and old County Road 52, they have to be in the same area to serve the same people, even

though they aren't in the exact same spot. But if you left County Road 52 as State Road 52 and kept building, you would have a bit of a traffic, if I may be so bold, nightmare, or a disco uncomfortable traffic situation. So you went and realigned. State Road 52 to a four-lane road, and this is our

Starkey

Yeah. I just don't know if our I worked on that self-tower on this when we drafted the first one, and I just don't know if you guys know we have a requirement that they they have to co-locate or they can't be so close together. Because it used we were getting them popping up on the same property different towers when they when towers were first opened in. No, so um, but they've worked it out that the other one won't be coming back.

MarianoChair

Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

Starkey

I have two s two signed up. First speaker, David Tolby. Second followed um following Mr. Tolby Jim Hammond.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Uh Mr. Chair, if I may. Uh David Talbe is my witness. He is available for any questions about property values since that came up at Planning Commission. Okay. Um but he doesn't have a direct presentation. Okay.

Starkey

Jim Hammond.

Jim Hammond

Good afternoon. Jim Hammond, [address removed]. I'm here today.

Starkey

Mr. Just one I'm sorry, one thing. Just um for the record, can you state whether or not you've been sworn?

Jim Hammond

Uh yes, I've got some more.

Starkey

Thank you, and you you may proceed.

Jim Hammond

Oh thank you. I'm here today as uh president of Plantation Palms HOA, which I've been in for the last uh eight years. And we're delighted that the Planning Commission uh put a condition on that the community got a chance to vote on what design uh cell tower would be put in place. And so uh in instead of having the Official H-Way vote, which had a bunch of red tape, we did an extensive poll, and so we allowed people to use email, our official e-voting

system. You could use Facebook polling. The idea was to get out to everybody possible and give them a chance to have a say so. Of eight hundred and twenty-one households, we were fortunate to get two hundred and eighty-three votes, and I'll tell you on average, that's better. Than what we get for annual elections every year. So we we had a good participation. It was pretty clear what the community wanted. Of the 283 votes, we had 240 of 85% go for the pine tree design.

So I thought that was pretty conclusive. And I'll also state that the significant issue here wasn't the cell tower as such. It was our support for our golf course. Uh so our golf course closed in 2014. We're able to work with the current owner, bring it back in 2016. We'll never forget those days. And so anything the community can do to help support the golf course that we're all in. Thank you very much.

MarianoChair

Jim, I just want to thank you for your service in the community uh from helping work with that golf course that was defunct and having some troubles to to bring it back to where it is. Now it's number one rated golf course.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yes. Nice. Wow.

MarianoChair

Very good. Congratulations. Doing a great job out there. And yeah, we're uh like I said, happy to have the attorney work so well to make this happen. Happy to help your uh uh communities thrive even further. So thanks thanks for all you do. Thank you, Chairman M

Anyone's here from the public to speak this item?

Starkey

I have no one else signed up and no one on WebX.

Weightman

Second.

MarianoChair

All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Thank you for your time today. Thank you very much.