An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Providing For A Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 05) From RES-1 (Residential-1 du/ga) To RES-9 (Residential-9 du/ga) On Approximately 30 Acres Of Real Property Located On Crela Drive Approximately 231 Feet West of the Suncoast Parkway; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency; Providing For A Repealer, Severability, And An Effective Date.
What the county recorded
Staff recommendation
Approve
DispositionAdopted
Approved to adopt by a roll call vote with Commissioner Mariano voting nay and Commissioner Yeager absent from the vote.
The source document
The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Aug 19, 2025
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The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Aug 19, 2025
The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.
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- Jun 17, 2025BoardP54▶Approved
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Uh P fifty four. was published in the april thirtieth, twenty twenty five edition of the Tampa Bay Times um and was supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings for the June seventeenth, twenty twenty five Board of County Commissioners meeting where it was continued to today.
Okay. Uh so item P54 and P56 do have uh residents signed up to speak. Item P54 is the comprehensive plan amendment and item P56 or item P sixty one is the companion MPUD rezoning. Uh it's up to the board's discretion, but I would recommend hearing them together.
I d I don't mind hearing them together. Ford?
I'm fine with it.
We
do this before.
Uh do you have to swear people in though? Yes. Why don't we go ahead and swear everyone in outside? So do you
want
to
So any procedures now too as well? Go ahead, sir. There are two rezoning agendas, regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the Board of County Commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the applicant will be given
And there's no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial, Or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation, the opposition will be given three minutes for each individual, five minutes for a group representative, and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation, or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the rezoning, may at this time request
the petition to be pulled from the consent agenda, in which case That application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all rezoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi-judicial public hearing. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments
to those criteria found within the Board's Land Development Code. Mr. Clerk, would you like to swear the public in, please?
Thank you, sir. Yes.
Anyone
wishing to speak to items P fifty eight through P sixty one, the zoning items, P fifty eight through P sixty one, please stand. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear testimony you will give in these matters? Is it the truth? So help you God.
Uh when you come forward, please give your name and address for the record and uh acknowledge that you were sworn.
Thank you. Madam Chairman, and if you're gonna hear these two together, I would request that you take separate motions on each on the comprehensive plan first, then followed by the zoning. Um if the public is here to speak for One rather than the other, please identify their comments as being for the comprehensive plan amendment versus the zoning amendment. Um and they should be given Three minutes
for each item.
Yeah. Okay, so let's start with P fifty four.
G fifty four. Again, this was published in the April 30th, 2025 edition Tampa Day Times. Supplemented by certified mailings and site postings and was continu uh for the June seventeenth Board of County Commissioners meeting where it was continued to today.
Okay, thank you. So again, Amy Toll, Planning, Development, and Economic Growth. Item P54 is a comprehensive plan amendment. I'll read the ordinance. This is the adoption hearing for the Comp Plan amendment, so I'll read the ordinance into record. An ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map 2-15 and sheet five. Res 1 residential 1 dwelling unit per gross acre to Res 9 residential 9 dwelling units per gross acre on
approximately 30 acres of real property located on Corella Drive, approximately 231 feet west of the Sun Coast Parkway, and providing for addition additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for a repealer, severability, and effective date. So here's the aerial view of the subject site. As you can see it's located on the west side of Suncoast Parkway, just north of Shady Hills area. The project overview is a
small-scale comprehensive plan amendment from Res 1 residential 1 dwelling unit per gross acre to res 9 residential 9 dwelling units per gross acre to allow for a maximum development of 186 fee simple townhomes on approximately 30 acres. The location is on the north side of Corella Drive, bounded by Annehurst Lane, to the east and approximately 231 feet west. Of Suncoast Parkway. There is a companion rezoning petition in the name of Arcola Shady Hills MPUD. Subject
sites located in the North Market area. And the context map shows the uh subject site with the red star adjacent to Cruise Lake Middle School and Mary Gella Elementary School. You can see Corella Drive there as well as Shady Hill Drive and Suncoast Trail.
Here's a transportation network context map to show Old Pasco Road, which is the applicant. Or I'm sorry, this is What? That's not right. That's not Old Pasco Road. We'll fix that. That's Corella. That's the subject site. So uh as you can see, uh Shady Hills Shady Hills Drive is currently on the CIP uh from Corella Drive to Bosley Drive. Uh Peace Boulevard is highlighted here as well to show that there is a bus stop in proximity to the subject site.
Uh Cruise Lake Middle and Mary Giella Elementary School, as well as Shady Hills Drive in proximity to the subject site. You can see it also is it is also close to the Sun Coast Parkway, which has uh uh amenities or proximity to the Sun Coast. Coast Parkway Trail. So subject site is located around public facilities and school systems as well. So this is the existing feature LAN use to res one, uh
or it is res one. The proposed future land use to res nine.
The comprehensive plan consistency. So the proposed amendments consisted with the following comprehensive plan policies. Policy flu 1.1.2, concentration of urban densities, policy HSG 1.1.2, comprehensive plan amendments, policy flu 1.4.3, transitional land uses, policy flu 8.1.5, north market area, and policy flu
Mm-hmm. And with that, we re recommend approval of the proposed comprehensive plan and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote. If you'd like, I can bring staff up for the MPUD rezoning and just go ahead into that presentation as well.
Madam Chairman M need to clarify the proof of publication that I gave before was for the plan amendment. There is a separate um for the record there is a separate Um proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times July twenty-third, twenty twenty five for the zoning. Uh part of this discussion.
Uh okay. Um do we read in the other one as
well or do we stop? If you're if you're gonna take consolidated public comment, yes you're gonna have to open both items.
But I'm asking if we do that right now. 'Cause I don't remember how we do it when we put 'em together.
Yes.
Okay, so you're gonna read p the P
whatever the other one is. Uh sixty one. P you can go through the presentation for P sixty one as well? Yes. Okay.
Yeah. Good afternoon, William for Million, Planning Development, Economic Growth. This is PDE twenty-five seventy-eight fifty, Arcola, Shady Hills, MPUD.
The location map. This is a rezoning request from AR Agricultural Residential to MPUD Master Planned Unit Development to allow for the development of a maximum of 186 platted townhomes on approximately 28 acres. This is on the north side of Krella Drive. twelve hundred feet from the intersection of Crow and Shady Hills.
This is the subject site location.
the z current zoning map, the future land use map.
Here is the overall contextual map of the location. And for the purposes of this, I have asked Tony after this discussion to pull up Pasco mapper so we can see a wider view of the area when we're talking about some of the pedestrian infrastructure improvements that are going to be occurring along Shady Hills Road. So here you can see Mary Giella Elementary School to the south, as well as Cruise Lake Middle School going towards the east. This project
will be improving portions of Substandard Krella from their project access to the elementary school, as well as installing pedestrian facilities on both the north and south sides of the road. the a as well as safe pedestrian flashers for the students to cross the street towards the elementary school. It should be noted that PDE has communicated with the school board on this and the pedestrian facilities that currently exist at the school.
There's currently a gate at the elementary school that's locked. And upon completion of these pedestrian improvements per Mr. Williams with the school board, that pedestrian gate will be unlocked to facilitate students travel to the elementary school outside of the drive aisles of the school, as well as a school safety officer being placed at that gate.
Mm. The sidewalk outside of the subject boundaries, it's uh a a portion of the fiscal year twenty twenty six construction plans is currently at thirty percent design. that improvement goes all the way north to Bosley drive uh with the uh the five foot sidewalk from Cruise Lake to Bosley. which will connect the gap from the pathway on the south side built by North Pasco Corporation Center and the Suncoast
Trail.
This project for fiscal year 2026 is also providing a pedestrian beacon at Green Glen Lane, which is the area that the Commission will be familiar with is the current side of the baseball fields and the county park. They are going to be putting in a safe pedestrian beacon there with the sidewalk to the south of Green Glen Lane to the County Park entrance. The county is also constructing a traffic signal within fiscal year 2026 at Bosley Drive intersection with Shady Hills
Road. And a traffic traffic signal at Little Ranch Road in fiscal year 2026 to support the new fire station on the west of Shady Hills Road.
This is the M Pudy Master Plan.
But more importantly, here's the binding concept plan showing a centralized park with the platted hound townhomes in a in a uh designed in a grid manner with the stub outs both to the north and to Anherst. The connection to Anherst will not be made now either as emergency or as a functional access until the time that Anherst is improved to county standards. It's currently uh a dirt road that's serving as essentially a private driveway for residents that live over there on the on Anherst. You
can see here depicted as well in the red dotted line the pedestrian facilities on the north side of Krella, which will be going to the pedestrian facilities at the school in the middle school and then on the south side to Mary Giella all the way out to the sidewalks and pedestrian facilities that are being constructed out along Shady Hills Road and then in fiscal twenty twenty six when construction kicks off all the way north to Bosley.
The widening of Shady Hills Road. is within the cost uh feasible plan for MPO's twenty fifty long-range transportation planning in the 2041 to 2050 uh time slot.
There is increased buffering with this MPUD along the east side to Anherst for those existing neighbors. We're doing 20 feet instead of the code required 15 with a six to eight foot tall opaque fence. the linear shade trees as well as the shrubs.
Mm-hmm.
With that, there's one variation request for this MPD from 9016011, which is street design and dedication requirement, street access to adjoining property. This project site could not directly connect to the s to the middle school site on the east. The school board didn't want that connection as most of their their track and field activities happen over there as well as another myriad of safety reasons. And in which case staff is in support of this variation because of that enhanced pedestrian mobility that I just spoke to, as well as the safe crossings to allow the students here
to get from both the elementary school to the middle school. This comes with a recommendation of approval with conditions from both the Planning Commission and the Planning and Development Economic Growth Department. I'm here for any questions.
Madam Chairman Mariano. Yes. As we're getting to hear both these things, um I want to thank Will and Rob for going out with us. We went out on the site. Um We met on Wednesday morning to talk about this project. Uh Thursday morning at six thirty in the morning, these gentlemen get up in the morning to go see what the traffic was like. And I give 'em great kudos for going out there taking the time to make that happen, because you didn't have to do it, but I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Tony, if you would just play the video as we talk a little bit. He's gonna show you a series of videos that while we're in the truck they were they were actually
able to see.
So we've heard many people from Shady Hills in the past few years talk about Shady Hills Road. And I think we just heard that it's not going to be built till 2041 on the 2050 plan. The traffic that's out there right now, this is coming from the south. near fifty two, heading up toward a school that's being built a little bit below Del Webb. I mean a skill that's already in place built below Del Web. The traffic is intense all the way down. Uh you'll see that another development even coming onto the side, which is gonna add to more traffic. It's
not even part of this traffic mix yet. Um you can fast forward a little bit, I guess. I don't know if you can or not. Uh shows you a little bit further. It's just steady steady flow of traffic all the way through. entryway into Quail Ridge with some constructions going on.
Oof.
It's it's just steady, steady, steady. And that's coming out of the school where they got a really big loop, but the loop is still being blocked from above to come out here you gotta try to get out. Um And again is it two lane road with a Three school four schools on it. that go. And I want to say that uh you know, Ripper and Barbara will have a great putting the Shady's elementary turn lane in there, which helped a lot, but Here's one with just a huge turn lane or or a access lane going in and around the school, but still still, you'll still get
traffic. And if we're gonna do put industrial, I mean you'll see it in a in a little bit, you'll see Seneca trucks that are like lined up trying to get out, going through the traffic. And if we're gonna build for creating jobs and we can't fix the traffic All the industrial jobs we're trying to bring in and all the jobs we're gonna try to create, if you don't have the traffic
That was a school on the right, yes. And now it now it frees up for a bit. Del Wed's coming up and uh You'll see Dell Webb to put a nice sidewalk running up here, which is good. Um To get down to there, but um won't see a lot of action to it. All right, you can f flip to the end of this one, I think.
Now you're coming back the other way. Look at all the traffic coming back the other way as we're getting up up to the schools now.
That road there's no way.
Yeah, and and look at look at there's no trail on the side either. You got dirt dirt bikes, dirt roads, um for kids to go back and forth on. So even if you're trying to commute and try to come out of these one of these side streets, think about how difficult it's gonna be to get out there too.
And this this truck can't even make it through this intersection that's right here. He's gotta go in the other lane to get over here. So clearly not built for even big industrial stuff yet. I mean this this road needs to get done. And part of what we're seeing too with all that traffic coming down from the south is all those improvements up in Spring Hill. Hernando County. And now finding this is a great shortcut to come down. But again, we can now there's a truck from Seneca trying to get out uh that g that got out. Um there's just more traffic from just getting a view as we're turning
back around, we're gonna head down. And I think we're gonna head down to Cruise Lake at this point. Go ahead to the next one.
Mm-hmm.
So working our way down this cruise like elementary, which is on the left hand side. You'll see we actually got a service deputy in the intersection that's allowing just for for the buses to go to the left, and there's another car to the side Another sheriff's deputy, sitting out there just kinda watching to For traffic or whatever may go may go on. So again, cruise elementary on the left, that's a turn where the things can go, but look at the traffic just coming down here. And we haven't even opened up for the uh primetime with the school as yet. Now all these people are gonna come down to this intersection and take a
left turn.
Might be a light or two before we get there.
Because they can take their flow going in and around. It does a good job, but all the traffic that's out front getting in is where this thing all gets clogged up. And we had that accident a few years ago. I think Mr. Stark in Oakley, you were on with me when we had the middle school student come before us asking for a light at Southwind. That's the light that we put in, and thank God we did. Um but again the traffic that's in this area right here, this quadrant now For the next one. hours. So it was is pretty intense. Um So Cruise Lake's gonna open up here at eight
thirty. And the traffic in there is gonna be moving but it's Light to light to light, backed up. Um
Uh so you're gonna go in front?
And in the front you're gonna see people that are crossing over to the side.
Uh this is back a little bit later, same t little bit little bit later in the in the day there's a second uh police vehicle that's there.
And his people on Mary GL Elementary is about nine thirty. These people are crossing over the road, going into the back Dropping off the kids as this traffic is just like churning around. So Mary Jeller is on the south side of Corella Drive. And when this thing goes up it lined up. We got in line at nine seventeen. When when those traffic started to move a little bit in the right-of-way, They didn't open it until nine thirty and the traffic w lined up Out in the back of Krella, all the way to the not only to the front of Cruise Lake but the other development that's
like right beside it coming in with two hundred eighty more homes that aren't even built yet. That's gonna add to Corella Drive traffic. I see most of their access coming in is gonna be going up that way as well. It's just because you shows you more traffic here stuck. Uh go ahead, flip the next one.
Last one okay.
Now what are those cars?
I'm trying to see where we're going here.
It's on shady it's on shady hills head heading down.
That's back in front of the school, the other the charter school again. So my my point to you is this you got a road that's two-lane, you don't have sidewalks, trails, uh except for s small parts of it, not where where all the kids are coming from yet, but you know the some of the infrastructure is getting filled in. But the road needs to be improved before you're gonna put more density. You've got 280 homes being built on Corella Drive to the south side. It's got one access point. point out on Shady Hills Road, but most of the access they just built in is gonna be going out in Krella, taking the light and coming out either heading
north south, 'cause if you can't go out and go one way or the other, you're gonna go head head the light, which most people do. So all that traffic that's two hundred eighty homes coming on Corella Drive, just a keep in mind, a little dead end road. All that's gonna be thrown in and now you're gonna add another hundred eighty homes. I think in time this development is is very appropriate. But before we bury these people with more traffic out there, more issues out there, with with our own job creators that are out there, like Seneca stuck in traffic here, I mean if these guys take a long time to
get there, they're not gonna want to put more industrial in it, more jobs to be created, and we've got three hundred acres of industrial land out there ready to come in. But it's gonna slow even stagnate that down. If we dump more traffic in that area until we're ready for it.
All right. So I need to let the applicant present and she's requested uh ten minutes. And so she's been granted that. Um and then we can Have more discussion and hear from the public.
Good afternoon. Barbara Will Hight, 8627 Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey, for the applicant. I just did a combined presentation for both the Comp Plan and the MPUD. I will work very hard not to be repetitive because you have now heard a lot about this area. Do you know where it's at? This is the land use map. You've heard about the industrial. You you know Gary's Plastics is there with their two buildings. There's 300 acres of industrial as been alluded to. The PSP and the
employment centers there's a lot of employment that the county is driven here. The counties requested that this employment go here. So it's only natural that the the new development, the homes will follow and that's what you're seeing.
This is our binding concept plan. It's a greened up version than the one that's in your packet. What's interesting about this is that this client agreed to do no eight uh unit buildings. I was counting. So they're all sixes, um, so no eight unit buildings. We have a s a central park feature which exceeds the land development code requirements. We we were context sensitive to our project, our development to the east, the existing homes to our east, enhanced buffer. The client wanted to have a grand entrance
to this. This is N VR Homes, they do a very nice product. These are just a list of some of the different things that we did. Um enhanced the buffer to the east. The currently Anherst Lane sits on the client's property. We're providing right-of-way. Not only did we limit the number of units per building, we also said we're gonna product is gonna be a minimum of 24 feet product. A lot of times you're approving 18, 16, 18, 20. This client has committed to the larger townhome
units at 24. Maximum of six units per building. Our density is six point five nine units per acre. That's a pretty low density for a townhome project. We've compliance with and exceed PM26. We exceed PM26 because we have dedicated visitor parking, 0.25 spaces per unit outside of the driveways, and we are exceeding the parks requirement. We have a 2.25 acre park with only 1.86 acres required. I don't see that very often
in any of my presentations. Usually everybody's trying to get out of your parking. park requirements this this project is actually exceeding your park requirements. You've heard a lot about the off-site improvements. We partnered with the school board. The school board told us what they wanted to do. We said yes and we did exactly what they asked us to do. They were actually surprised that we didn't question anything they wanted. And we didn't. the um the path that on the south side's an eight foot path and it goes from From uh Shady Hills Road all the
way over the Sun Coast Trail. There's significant infrastructure going in, bike pet infrastructure that I don't see in many parts of this county, and some of it you heard William talk about the counties part portion of what the county's doing, but developers are doing their piece too. You can see our piece, both the the sidewalk improvements in coordination and the crossing and coordination with the school board, this multi-use path that nobody asked us for on the south side, but we decided to do as an amenity for this community to get so people aren't driving down Krella Drive on their bikes or walking
down with their strollers to get to the Suncoast Trail. They have easy, you know, safe access on a on a multi-use path. Developers have filled in When you go south of Krella, Softwinds Intersections, developers have filled in that portion. When you go underneath the Sun Coast Parkway, both sides, that's the Poulty project, are filling in that infrastructure. There is a the county's doing their part and developers are exceeding the requirements in doing their part. In this area, these homes will be able to
walk to both an elementary school that's under capacity, a middle school that's under capacity, quite, quite under capacity that middle school is. They'll be able to walk to work. They'll have trails that get them to the Suncoast Trail easily, which goes north and south for miles you can you I mean that's a a biker's dream. You can get to Cruise Lake Park all with without getting in your car. This infrastruct this is a lot of infrastructure that's going in here. Um so I wanted to just point
that out. Some county driven and some developer driven.
This is the product elevations for NVR's product. As you can see, there's attention to the landscaping, there's attention to all the things that the stucco, the facades, the breaking it up, the monotony control, architectural features, attention to all those things that you all have asked for for these types of projects, in addition to making sure they're a platted project with an HOA. which has been another thing that's been important to the commissioners. These are the impact and mobility fees. You can see the generation, the mobility fees alone will
generate about $1.4 million. So with that, let me just see if I had any other notes I wanted to hit before rebuttal. I know you have some public comment, so I will save anything else. I would just I transportation wise We meet all the requirements. I mean I can go through and have Steve Henry talk up here and tell you how he did his analysis pursuant to the land development code, both his needs assessment and his timing and phasing, meets the requirements of your code. There are no failures that are created as a result of this project. And
that would be it. I will listen to public comment and I look forward to um coming back and and talking to you some more.
Um I I did have a question. I don't know if it's to Barbara or Steve or someone. When did you say Shady Hills was getting widened? I heard that some parts were getting improved. Then I heard the whole thing's being done at a certain time. What do we have a timeline?
Yeah. William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. It's within the twenty forty-one to twenty fifty uh time band of the affordable plan for its budgeting.
So there's so none of the Are there any other uh improvements coming from any of the developments? What what's a list of the improvements that are being required to be done by the developers in the area? Turn lanes, any sidewalks, anything?
Sure. So so I I spoke to the the county's obligation uh building pedestrian facilities within construction within fiscal year two thousand and twenty-six. From the subject site to intersection north to Bosley Drive up.
Right. So I had uh I had Tony preemptively pull up an aerial over the location because I uh I'd like to orient everyone. And before I continue the real reason I came up here
We did uh submit late exportes that came in and to the clerk's office. I just wanted to make that clarification, but I Turned out perfect that I came up here.
So where's Bosley?
Tony, if you'll uh if you'll zoom out. And go north.
Yeah. So eventually you'll start seeing
Right. So just it's tough for me to see from here you're close to the computer. When you see Bosley stop, and then whenever I talk about Um Green Glen, that's where the baseball fields and the county park are where the pedestrian crossings and some uh signalizations occurring in the area.
Just type
it in. It's way up there actually.
Yeah, it's it's v it's very far north, which was to my point.
Okay, so what's happening what's happening between there and Bosley?
There is uh pedestrian facilities going in along Shady Hills Road from this intersection where the infrastructure is currently being built by the uh the townhome development. The Commissioner Mariano referenced to the south. It's uh Krella Estates to the south side of Krella Drive, hundred and seventy six townhomes. Along Shady Hills uh Road, there's pedestrian facilities being built by that development as you come underneath the Sun Coast, north to Krella, and then the county is picking up construction of the sidewalk from this intersection all the way north to Bosley
along Shady Hills
Road.
Correct. That is the the first phase that's budgeted.
I was just thinking people
Sidewalks. So Well it's better than nothing, doesn't give a whole lot of mobility. Right.
What's the name of those fields? I've been there.
Should heals?
And that's that is uh Green Glen that I was referencing before with the with the county park and the baseball fields there. Where uh additional pedestrian pathways are going in and uh the pedestrian beacons along the south side of that to aid in pedestrian movement to the park from Shady Hills.
Okay.
Uh any other questions, board members? Or do you want to hear um
Um if you could well go go down to show Quella Drive again and show those. Hundred and seventy six other townhomes are gonna be?
Yes, sir.
Right there in that circ that wedge, right?
Yeah, you can see the the grating that's occurred there.
Yeah, those are built.
So all that traffic you saw has nothing to do with that coming on board. And I think Dell Webb is still under construction too, which is going to bring more. And another Place below that is being built, as we saw, is gonna come online. And again, two lane road. Try to imagine all those side streets you saw going up, with those big lots try people trying to get out. It's gonna be dangerous. Um and I wanna I'll give a shout out to Barbara again for doing a great job working with Ripper. when we and and I wanna thank the board for taking that project was going to be a year coming into construction. We
get that turn lane to Shady Hills Elementary, which is above here, which is uh I think it would be a great asset. People are very appreciative of that. But again, we don't have The capacity to put all these extra trips on here and your traffic studies, you can hear all the traffic studies you want. But if they don't factor in the developments that are coming in? They don't help and they don't show you a true true road. And keep mind, Krilla Drive now is just that little road coming out to South Wind. which is, you know, elevated intersection, difficult intersect section to get in out,
you're just gonna jam up all that traffic.
Well um let should we take public comment? And we'll take public comment first on the comp plan And then we will take public comment on the resilience.
No.
No?
Just Take public comment, but if they're speaking to both the comprehensive plan and the land development code Uh and the rezoning, then they're entitled to six minutes. Three for each.
Do we have folks who have signed up?
We have one person signed up, uh Pastor Jen Kerouck.
Hi there, Pastor Jen Kerouac, uh [address removed]. Um And I'm a pastor, so all six minutes is mine, hate to tell ya. So anyway, um I coming today and I did send a PowerPoint presentation. I
may have missed it. Did you say you were sworn?
I I did not say, but yes, sir, I was swearing. Okay. Thank you. It's on record with video. Thank you. Okay. Can you start my six minutes back? So um I did submit to the slides. Oh, okay. Oh, very nice. I haven't done this before. Um so um
Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. So um I just did like old school went to look at the comprehensive plan based on what is out there currently. I hear a lot about what's coming but unfortunately We just heard Shady Hills Road widening isn't coming until 41 to 45 or something, is what I think he said. Um so really You know, the comp plan shows that, you know, in regards to the protection
of the environment, foundation for growth management, this is what is out there now. And when you're looking at growth management, you know, the concerns that I had with regards to this particular project, uh maintenance of established residential neighborhoods, protection of rural and agricultural areas, which it is. Um provision of adequate service and facilities, I took that to be the widening of the road, providing a good road. Right now the Krella townhomes on
the south side of Krella Drive have created a significant issue as a result of like flooding into the neighbors properties because of the road there on that is currently there.
Also additionally, you know, the growth management principles, I took a look at this, protecting rural neighborhoods and effectively limits urban sprawl. So unfortunately, you know, and again I you know didn't go to school for this. I'm just trying to show the things that I have seen that seem to be that this plan is not consistent with the current comprehensive plan. Um Relies upon a lands acquisition program that is
designed to preserve heat ecosystems and protect wildlife water resources and natural areas. Again, a solid infrastructure support system. Um And I'm just gonna say I you know, the sidewalks, when they're speaking to infrastructure, they're speaking to sidewalks. And I gotta say that if you know, myself being a business person, if I had the ability to do sidewalks instead of throwing my change into the piggy bank to widen the road I'd pick the sidewalks too. I'm
not gonna lie to you. But the reality of it is, is that there are you are relying on the fact that the infrastructure is gonna support these. It doesn't I mean There's also Dell Webb that I don't think anybody if they've purchased a home, I don't believe it's finished yet. Just the models are they just did a grand opening in July, I wanna say, the beginning or mid part of July. So, you know, you're not taking into consideration, I believe it was twelve
hundred homes going into there. And, you know, the traffic study says, you know, we're hoping for whatever it is per town home, like it's like one point six seven cars or something like that, which I don't understand that, but Um and so you know the concern is that you know this is supposed to embody the design to build long-term community value. We're relying on the fact that somebody's gonna put a Publix in the middle
of Shady Hills because they have to drive many miles to get to a Publix. The reality is right now the only thing that people in Shady Hills can use is their cars because we did get we don't have the bus system anymore that was serving that particular area. And so we We're relying on cars, that's it, period point blank. Um there was a study and I'll go I'll Um what I want to
um
There was in 2002 I found a gem. 2002 F DOT did a study for the need for improvement along CR578 corridor. And the blow was established. There was a need for improvement. The current substandard traffic operations within the study area that also included Shady Hills Road. And we know that Mariner is like five lanes. They have two lanes on each side plus a turning lane. And
then they dump into Shady Hills two lane roads. Um and so the concern then is is that if we're looking at Um two thousand forty one to two thousand forty five. Um there is zero chances that anyone can look at this and think that it's safe. For the residents. There are accidents that happen all the time, right in front of the church, right? And
I see those accidents. And unfortunately, I saw a young man lose his life to an accident. And there were four accidents that took place within 45 minutes as a result of one accident where at Krella Drive, Krella and Southwind. There was a major accident that took out a power pole. That created three additional accidents that ended up with a young man, 18 years old, losing his life. And
I appreciate Like I literally came and spoke to many of you and asked, please, if you can put a crosswalk there, flashing lights, something. You know, because there was a gentleman that was there was a young man that was killed there. And so I think morally, ethically, It is it is absolutely not ethical nor is it moral for you to sit in a position to vote something
like this in. It's just not. And so therefore I ask, based on this information and for the safety of the people of Shady Hills community, I ask that you deny this today. Thank you.
No no clapping. Um is there anyone else uh who wishes to speak to this item?
We have no one else signed up online and the only person we have I'm sorry, in person and online we don't believe that person is connected. So
Okay. Does the applicant want to come back up?
No you asked who was signed up. Oh I'm just Close public comment. Applicant rebuttal. Okay.
Thank you again for the opportunity to talk to you again. Um Commissioner Starkey, I would say the s uh sidewalk versus the multi youth path. All the developer projects are all multi-use paths. your project's a sidewalk.
Yeah.
Um so we are hearing you and your desire for multi use paths. All of the infrastructure that the developers have put in to aid with putting together this system of so pip pedestrians and bikes can move are all eight footpaths.
We are making improvements to a portion of Krella that's substandard. Most of most of Krella meets your standard requirements up to the school. And then it goes substandard. We're making that improvement. We don't have any impacts at the intersection of Krela and the intersection where it's the signalized intersection that would cause us to do any mitigation there. Um
I would add Oh, let me just talk about a little bit about um the public comment. I do appreciate the going through the comprehensive plan. It is a complex document that I'm an expert in because I wrote a lot of it in 2006. And you have goals, objectives, and policies. Goals are just goals, objectives are just objectives, and policies are what you implement, and then you implement those policies. policies in your comprehensive plan development code. So I didn't see anything
in the presentation other than just kind of picking words, but as far as is anything there that had any substance. As far as publics goes, um it it isn't I anticipate in the in the other half of Poulte, Poulte did the Dell Web side, the east side of Shady Hills Road, the other half has commercial entitlements. I assume I think there'll be retail there when the rooftops come in and I and I think there will be sidewalks and multi-use paths to get folks
from what you're doing up to Bosley all the Way down to the that ultimately to that retail. So there will be ability to get out of your car and and go to retail locations when that retail comes and the retail follows the the house the housetops. I did take a note of something that Pastor said. that our we would rather throw our change in the piggy bang versus f sidewalks. Well that's actually not the case. We're doing the off-site improvements and we're also we're also doing mobility fees
with 1.4 million But All of my clients th that I have entitled helped them entitle property along here have done more. And so this client is willing to do more. than what we just told you today. They're willing to advance mobility fee payments, which I haven't had any client that's ever said we'll do that. And that's so you can use it to do a route study. You can use it towards a route study. You do not have a route study on your CIP, you're working on your CIP now, so you can
make those decisions, but you could start a process that gets you to somewhere where you can get a plan for this road so that these systems citizens have an an answer as to what when are you going to do something with this road and what's the process. So doing our part, and it's certainly not pennies, the client would be willing to pay half of their mobility fees, about 700,000 when you issue them a site development permit, which allows them to start clearing dirt, and then another the other half when they get the CO
for their second building. Their first building is their model center that gets them up and going. They start selling, they can pay prepay the rest of their mobility fees. So that's trying to be part of a solution that you all can come up with to move Shady Hills Road forward. Um each one of my projects has tried to come up with a solution. you know, t to do something. And and that is our something we're offering um today to you know to listening to the community. You know, we I worked with Commissioner Mariano to get the thousand foot queuing lane on Shady Hills Road. We're
putting in all the infrastructure. We're we're doing all the gaps where the county's not doing um s sidewalks and and pedestrian um improvements and would like for your support. This is a great project, a great developer, and I think it's gonna complement your all your efforts to have an an employment center here. um which is an effort forever, was to put together an area where s people can work and they can live, they can go to school, um, and then they can recreate. And this is something that's been in the works
for a long time. So Uh if you have any questions or want to talk to any of my team members, I have them all here. But I wanted to um offer that to you all as a as a s be part of the solution. Thank you.
Um I have a I have a question just Wondering, uh you know, we're trying to make an effort to save existing oak trees when possible. Will the developer be able to save some of those existing trees in that village that that center green? Or is he planning on knocking everything down and
Uh Jeremy Couch, our project engineer from Tampa Civil, would be happy to uh talk to you about that.
Trying to figure it out.
Commissioner Oakley Tampa Civil 17937 Hunting Bow Circle. I have been sworn. I am the project engineer. It uh Commissioner Starkey, it definitely is our goal to preserve as many of the good, healthy trees within our center corridor as we can. The vision is you pull in, you see a really mature area prior to splitting out. out to the areas where we do have to do a lot of grading to make it drain and not flood and things like that. So it it is our goal to save as many as possible.
Um what about the oak trees on the west border line between you and the school?
So so the areas that we can retain trees at the natural grade, um, we're gonna keep every one we can. It's one less tree we would plant, a mature tree we can keep and it makes the community look better and sell better.
I'm really torn because I think the road needs widening, but I also think they're following all our rules. So You know, I I'm I'm really torn here. I'm I'm wondering about widening the road If we could jump ahead and w at least widen sooner the road from Krella to whatever retail commercial areas coming in. I don't Trying to see it on here, but I don't see it on the Del Webb um property. But
I'll Go ahead, Commissioner Weightman.
Uh I guess staff or Barbara. So a maximum of one hundred and eighty six platted townhomes. Is that the total that's being built, or is it gonna be less than that?
Well,
This this specific So this type of townhome project Why don't you bring bring forward more projects that are designed and look like this to other parts of the of the county? um looking at this design and how it's laid out.
Um I think it's setting a new precedent for what we want to see as far as variety of townhome product and type and amenity and lifestyle and park size, green space, you name it. Um another something just to think about Not to get off. Topic, but When we're looking at our our trees Uh you'll see the oaks being you know, will build up and then the oaks are left in lower lying areas and water rushes into it during storm events and then the oaks they
drown. So it's kinda pointless. It's my opinion it's it's the developer saying, Oh, we're gonna keep the tree but a storm comes through and it falls down and then it's a that's a lot cheaper. way to deal with with trees on project sites. So just something I've I've recognized and to commissioners, the chairs, to the chair's point. But With Shady Hills Road, I think it's time. Yeah. For For a long time, uh you know, it was a quiet place.
Uh the market in the Shady Hills corridor Got hot. and it got hot very quickly and the county has looking at the history of the Shady Hills Road and the whole site has has advocated past boards many, many, many years to say, hey, we want this to be an employment site. We want people here And it's happened and it's happened very quickly. And that's just due to the nature of the market, whether it was, you know COVID
and politics that drove people here or for whatever reason, but business is knocking on the corridor, it's coming in, which is a great thing, gets people to work. Have a nice places to live and work and two schools that are under capacity that now, you know
But what we need to do as the market has shifted Government is not a Flexible. And I think with this market being the way that it is and all the attention in in in in in the market driven moves towards a space We've got to move up the timeline to improve Shady Hills Road. I don't know how we do it. But forty one to fifty's not acceptable. I think if we don't do it sooner than later, it kills this market dynamic that's
happening in this segment of our county. especially with the veterans right there and all the action that's going on up in Hernando 'cause a lot of that traffic, you know, it's coming down south. Bellmy Brothers is is facing the same thing, but that's a a different a different environment. It doesn't have the economic drivers behind it that Shady Hills has and that it's been set aside for many, many years for to attract businesses to come in. So my my concern is less with the with this townhome
product, but more for the greater uh the greater uh picture of of how folks are traveling uh up and down shady hills and getting to fifty two and the veterans and back up to Hernando and then the folks that live in between and you know the life that's in between. I think it's incumbent. This this market's here, it's it's it sees something in this area that that's special and and it's it's it's driving activity. And so we we need to to figure out a way how to start ru widening this road and get it done.
And I'd be willing
some other projects and and start getting it fixed, you know, so sooner than later. Um that's just pivoting with the market and being nimble. And uh the market doesn't. I think government needs to do the same.
It's just money, Commissioner Oakley.
I um I've been looking at Shady Hills Road for quite a while because it does seem very, very congested at times, but Also uh some of the issues with Shady Hills Road is the schools are
built way back. Not not new to take Uh the people driving their kids to school. Years ago, pe most parents were Putting her kids on a school bus and a school bus delivered to the To the school. They didn't have to worry about stacking. In today's time now. Those can even on the east side. And there's some more these on the east the west side also. They're having to take
there's very few kids riding buses anymore. they're actually being driven there by their parents, which has caused a different scenario and the schools weren't bit built for stacking cars to come into school creates an an issue with traffic. uh this particular development which I like and I'd like to see more of these in the county and other areas. But they have the walkability the parents could walk their kid to the school rather
than get in a car and and drive out in the traffic. So I think that's a plus for this development where it's at. Um I think I feel the same sentiments that that y'all do about the fact that we need to move uh Shady Hills Road and I've been thinking of that for a long time. And even when we were making Uh room for other developments coming here. uh developing in this area. the road hadn't changed any. It's it's still the same road. But
I think somehow we need to work out where we get monies and be able to move that forward. The credits coming from this project and the other projects will build up, but I if I'm not mistaken I thought this was a fifty-seven million dollar fix and uh it's very, very expensive. But I'd rather have it done sooner than later. And uh hopefully we can go to the legislator and some other places to help with some of these roads. So We gotta we
gotta reach out, find grants and all that could help us. in this kind of area to help build these roads out. I feel good about the project.
Commissioner Oakley.
Yeah, Madam Clerk I wanna say I I I appreciate the board's efforts, you know, for putting the investments into Um take up to Bosley to put the trail in, work making working with Barbara, frankly, work with Del Web. Putting the trail up, uh getting another project to put the project in front of 'em on it's great. I mean it's a great start. But what concerns me is just it's there's just so much more to do and th the expense of it is huge. What bothers me even with the state is like let's face it, we've tried to work on Conline Road now pretty heavy.
With our commissioners above saying how much important it was. And did you see anything with County Land Road the last two years? Nothing. And we had some pretty strong people up in Ronando County. They got nothing done for a County Line Road. And you know, as as as you mentioned, Commissioner Weightman, I think a lot of the traffic that was going down to Bellamy got frustrated down there. And a lot of them people have shifted over here say, You know what, there's another way we can go and they're coming down here. So in and Commissioner Oakley, as you as you mentioned, what's happened that's been a dramatic change, that's
made this even worse than it was just a few years back.
radius for driving s to s fr to fr to school. Now that's two miles out. So yeah, most of the kids are being driven now. So all of a sudden that problem that wasn't so bad is worse. Now with the developments that we've approved already To throw more onto it and and I'm and tell you with All this traffic on that short little Corolla Drive. That you're gonna have two big developments that are gonna be right there, going up there and going around. To the intersection that only do we have someone die this year, but a principal There's one who died when we put the sulphur and light in. it's
it's gonna cause some some trouble out there. There's gonna be some accidents and it's gonna it's gonna get it's gonna get worse. Um I think the development itself is great. I mean it'll be in the right time it'll be great. It just right now if you do it I think the burden you're gonna put on that road, the traffic I think you're really gonna hurt your economic development. So all that industrial If you got people that can't get out on the road, you know, these big trucks and you saw the one truck coming out of the light on Platinum Drive that was coming out of light one of the first scenes we had, he had to cross the lane over because the intersection's
not built for it. You got that situation up and down and you got some commercial stuff that even if it could could come right now, if they can't get their trucks out It's it's it's not gonna get to the jobs. So by putting in this residential ahead of the jobs I think what you do is you actually hurt the job creation potential that it's got. And that was part of the reason when we're not sure. This was looked at many, many years ago to take our industrial corridor. all the way down from Sun Lake, bringing it all the way up through Bexley, we included this area of Shady Hills to create jobs up here for these folks. But
if you put too much residential and people can't get around You can't move goods and services, I think you're gonna hurt the re the Commercial growth as well. So for that reason I'd love to work with the developer, I'd love to work with e everyone here to try to get this road done, but I think if you throw this on, you're just gonna like cause more gridlock out there and it's gonna be a dangerous situation. And one more thing. One thing about zoning is you've got stricter rules to follow. But when you're doing a comp plan change, you've got all the
flexibility in the world to say, you know what, it's just not the right time for it. You're not bound by the same thing with the zoning. So when you hear a comp plan, you've got flexibility to say, we just don't like it.
Chair. Yeah.
The issue with with commerce Again this goes back to the road. The challenges with the logistics of the businesses are going to be there Whether or not this this project makes it through. The challenges with everything that's coming online within this whole quarter, all the way up to County Line, all the way back down, are are going to be there and um whether or not this project makes it through. That it's it's going to compound as as more comes online. That's
why in in the bigger scope of this conversation We need to we need to really look at this corridor and bump it up. Uh
to start work on on this north south corridor. We're We're not moving quick enough on our north south corridors between Pasco and Hernando anyway. For as through traffic, I mean
You know, it's like Pasco and hi in in Hillsborough now where people are coming south and coming back north. Hernando has enough activity where we're kind of in a similar scenario. And so irregardless of of this project is is stuff that's been approved has come online, the businesses are gonna be hemmed up. Uh with with moving so we need to We need to do that.
What projects we have there and and not wait till f twenty forty one. I mean If I'm fortunate I'll still be around and maybe will come that time or twenty fifty. Hey hey hey but uh hey but uh right you know I might be able to I think I made my point there.
Commissioner Weightman. You know, I think we all I'd love for that road to be four lane right now. Yeah. Um but the reality is is we get our money to pave these roads with impact fee and um
Yeah. Are we gonna increase the impact fee? Um are we gonna um work on our we're talking about Remixing our discounts, which you know I've been saying I thought we needed look at that for a while. Uh but you're either gonna get the money from more impact fee Or you're gonna go. go to our M PO priority list and you're gonna cut something. Um so that's Our challenge
is I mean our challenge is g finding the money and and and and where's the pain gonna come from. Um
And This is something that's gonna be growing on us because Hernando is coming through Pasco just like we go through Hillsborough and Pinellas. They're coming through us and It's gonna not be pretty for a while. Um But that's why I'm wondering i would it make sense at least in the short term to at least widen And I I'm thinking Krella's the point. It seems to me it needs to be north of South Wind for
the commerce. At least find the money to go from That area to the publics or whatever's coming You know, the ma where the main traffic's gonna be. Can we at least accelerate that widening now? Um while we work on the rest, but at least we've Maybe we're helping a pinch point Um
A are there other things we can do for Shady Hills? Um shoulders, lights? Um Are there other things that we can do to help make it safer? Commissioner Mariano.
So I think there are some improvements that can be made. Um I had work with the Turnpike Authority, you guys remember a few years back about trying to get it a cruise late. Yes, I was just looking at it. So when I met when I last met with them, we talked about the park and ride to get done on on uh on the on the turnpike. Uh it came up in conversation that there's a possibility from Hudson Avenue which is just below this, just below Del Webb. There's enough room if we shift Shady Hills Road to the side on a redesign. So we're gonna talk about redesigning. If we shift that road over, there's enough room
for a full interchange for the Turnpike Authority and it's far enough away from fifty-two To m to make it warrant uh where they could actually make it.
I think that makes great sense. I was actually wondering can we do it at Shady Hills? I don't know.
So yeah, so so we can do it at the at the bridge I was thinking at first of Cruise Lake, but down to the south at Hudson Avenue, would be cutting across below Del Webb. It would actually fit there, and then if you shifted the road enough, you could actually make that work. That was one possibility. I think the other things you gotta do is work on the intersection improvements too, as we're trying to do it, but I love the idea from all the way from fifty two at least up to Krella. To make some things happen up there.
Yeah, so it may not be the whole Shady Hills, but at least we w where it's most congested, we get something going there. That's kind of my thoughts. Um but that's a discussion for is that an MPO discussion? I don't I don't know. Yes. Um so we're we're on to this. So um I am glad that the um Did the number change when you went to six units of building or d did you add more buildings to get to the same number? Or
h uh and listen, I'm not I'm just gonna say right here, I'm not a fan of eights. Um but six sixes look a lot better. I think this is a nice layout. So
I think that increased the park space. Oh, even better.
All right.
Okay. Well where it's it's to board.
Which which item we get in the first it would be the comp plan.
I move approval.
Second.
Roll call vote.
District one, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District. Five, Commissioner Mariano. District three, Chairman Starkey.
Well, I'm a r a reluctant yay. Um And we're gonna push to fix those uh we're gonna work to fix that part of Shady Hills.
Yeah.