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An Ordinance By The Pasco County Board Of County Commissioners Amending The Pasco County Land Development Code Section 1302.2 Mobility Fees, To Increase The Mobility Fees For Various Uses Beyond The Phase-In Limitations In Section 163.31801(6), Florida Statutes; And Other Amendments As Necessary, For Internal Consistency; Providing For Applicability; Repealer; Providing For Severability; Inclusion In The Land Development Code, And An Effective Date.

Proposed Ordinances at 1:30 p.m.PDE-26-0524District All

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PDE-26-0524 was taken up 4 times between Mar 19, 2026 and May 19, 2026 — this is appearance 3.

  1. Mar 19, 2026PlanningP8No disposition in the minutes
  2. Apr 21, 2026BoardP36No action
  3. May 5, 2026BoardP41Approvedthis item
  4. May 19, 2026BoardP36Adopted

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MarianoChair

Thank you very much. And item P forty one.

Sun Coast

All right. Well good afternoon.

Starkey

Um can let me do publication real quick. I'm sorry. Item P forty one was published in Tampe Times on March 4th, 2026. Thank you.

Sun Coast

Good afternoon, uh Mr. Chairman Members of the Board. Uh Nick Uren, County Engineer. Item P forty one is uh mobility fee increases. It is updated fee schedules and associated land development code amendments. So to read the whole ordinance title, an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 1302.2, mobility fees, to increase the mobility fees for various uses beyond the phase-in limitations

in section 163.31801, paragraph 6, Florida statutes. And other amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, providing for severability, inclusion in the land development code, and an effective date.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Mr. Chair. Um before Nick gives his full presentation, this item requires a unanimous vote of the board and uh my reading of the statute and the case laws that that requires a any a the entire board. So I think you can take public comment, you can hear Nick's presentation, you can have a discussion. But my recommendation to you would be that you not take the final vote today until you and you should continue it to the final the final vote until you have a full board.

So you can continue now. Thanks.

Sun Coast

As a reminder to the board, mobility fees pay for new transportation facilities. They don't pay for existing backlogs, and they don't pay for maintenance of existing roadways. They're supplemented by gas taxes. In Pasco County, we also have a penny sales tax and tax increment funds that go toward new capacities. For our roadway network. The proposed fees in the ordinance update cover 25% of our projected nearly $7 billion of needed transportation facilities. The proposed fee increases do exceed the

statutory limits, but consistent with the requirements of statute for this situation. We have a recent study justifying the increase due to extraordinary circumstances. We have conducted two public workshops dedicated to those extraordinary circumstances. We are proposing to implement the fees in this ordinance in two equal annual increments. And as your Chief Assistant County Attorney has just mentioned we will be seeking adoption by unanimous

vote of the full governing board when it is next assembled. So that's where we are in the process. There was a conversation that happened in the first reading of this ordinance, and I want to highlight that conversation for the board. It was regarding the amount of the size of a residential lot within the rural area of Pasco County that should be eligible for a discounted suburban mobility fee rate instead of the standard rural rate. In the

draft ordinance in your backup material, the language proposed sets the acreage threshold for that lot to be five acres. There was discussion at the previous board meeting about reducing that threshold down to 2.5 acres. So I've highlighted this because the current ordinance in your backup material does not have 2.5 acres in it. It has five. So if you direct me at this meeting, we can change this and then we can present a consolidated ordinance to you

when the full board is next assembled.

MarianoChair

I from the discussions I heard, no one's gonna be unanimous to vote. If we don't have all the votes, um it's not gonna go anywhere. So at this point I would leave it just as is and we'll have the discussion at the next meeting.

Sun Coast

That's fine.

WeightmanVice Chair

Now two point five looks good for the sake of conversation, but I think we can land on A unanimous vote for you.

Sun Coast

Okay. Yeah.

WeightmanVice Chair

So

Sun Coast

And Mr. Chair, that was the only outstanding item I had. I'm not sure if there were others that you wanted to touch on.

MarianoChair

No, I mean you and I had talked about uh hockey rings complexes and golf course or whatever, so that could be taken care of down the road.

Oakley

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well did you did you want to discuss

Sun Coast

uh

Unidentified speakerVoice A

the reducer I mean if you want us to change something on hockey rinks and golf courses, this is probably the best time.

MarianoChair

Best time to

Unidentified speakerVoice A

do it? If you're asking for a change We probably want to make that change before the next board meeting. So

MarianoChair

let me bring my discussion up. So way back when when we had the Advent Ice Hockey Ring Comp complex coming in. There was a impact fee that was scheduled, I think it's based upon three hundred eighty thousand dollars per rank. And it was like $1.2 million thereabouts. And we staff was able to work it out to actually get the number down to close to $100,000. The theory was it's an attractor, it's good for tourist development, it's good for economic development, and uh for the trips

that it's gonna bring it, it's not just regular people coming in, but a lot of tourism. The single hockey rink, I'm not gonna change that because to me that's gonna be something that's gonna be locally used. It's gonna help, but um it didn't seem to to warrant the same. So I was thinking we should take a look at that and bring those numbers down now as we did before or if we have the vehicle to already do it then we didn't have to, but so be it.

WeightmanVice Chair

Commissioner Weightman.

What you're proposing is we look at areas of regional uh impact. It's kind of what you're referring to, like a significant

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I think use. I think he's proposing that if it's a large hockey rink that's a large tourism draw that it had be a subsidized rate. Which is what we did for convent rights.

WeightmanVice Chair

Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So

WeightmanVice Chair

what was your definition of that item?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Um

WeightmanVice Chair

I mean s no doubt that the hockey reek is a reason provides a regional impact. For the for good reasons. For good reasons, right?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah.

Sun Coast

That was my assumption as well, that a regional attraction would provide four separate rings within the facility that was being proposed.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

And so were you

Sun Coast

if less than four pays the standard rate, more than four would be part of the discussion should we incentivize the mobility fees that are due for that larger investment in a regional facility?

WeightmanVice Chair

It's a good idea.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So do you have a fee schedule that would implement that concept?

Sun Coast

Well I have a slide, but that was only one of two items and I want to show Mr. Let's go one at a time.

Oh okay. All right.

MarianoChair

The next one would be golf courses, so

Unidentified speakerVoice A

you want to show us the hockey one so we can

Sun Coast

so They we were again we were ex um asking you to accept public comment and then we're asking you to continue this until the full board is assembled. I have um to illustrate this suggestion by the chair, if you look right now, the fee schedules for ice hockey arena make no distinction as to the number of rinks or the size of the facility that would be built within Pasco County. I've shown you the amount that they would pay per thousand square feet of facility in the proposed fee

schedule. If the board wishes to implement the chair's proposal that we incentivize these larger investments in four or more rings of ICE. Within Pasco County, then we could create a new row in our fee schedule, call it an ice hockey complex, specify that that means you must have four or more rinse, and subsidize the fees so that anyone building that large a facility would pay zero in mobility fees.

WeightmanVice Chair

Chair. Commissioner Weightman. What drives me batty with these fee schedules, like why can't we just have a uniform rate like fair tax? Everybody pay The same price, house to house. A use is a use. Instead of having all these different tiers and formulas and zones. I I just think if you're gonna build a house, no matter where you're gonna build it, I be president pre prejudicial of where somebody wants to choose to build their house

or whether it's in the heart of an urban area or up up in the north. I I just think it needs to be uniform in general. I know we're not going to get there, but I just felt the need to say that on the record. So Anyway, that's all. Right. Ms. Rokley.

Oakley

Part of that problem with with making it all the same is uh in an urban area you have so many homes close together, less than acres, and and so they they have more units. So you you put those fees against them, but then you get out in the country you're gonna have five acre tracks here and there. it most of the time and all the argument was that you travel further on that road so you have to pay more in because you're out in the rural away from the urban urban, you've got all that traffic,

everything paying toward one thing. But that's a lot of different homes, multiple homes, where out in the rural area you got one. So that's the reason it's been different like this before. So if I'm not mistaken, uh mister Goldstein If we lower that for the two and a half acre lots, that has to be made up somewhere else, right? That

Unidentified speakerVoice A

that

Oakley

lesser

Unidentified speakerVoice A

amount? It it is subsidized by three different sources, which is um the transportation portion of the penny, the um second local option gas tax, and a portion of the tax increment funds. So it is made up from another revenue source. But I think Nick will tell you that the amount of permits that use that particular fee reduction is fairly minimal. So I don't think it's gonna be something that would break the bank.

Oakley

So there wouldn't be earth shake in the

Unidentified speakerVoice A

It's it's not. And my guess is even what he's proposing for the ice hockey and the golf courses is also gonna be fairly minimal. These are not

Sun Coast

Not common uses.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

These are not common uses that are gonna break the bank on it. So if it was something on residential or general commercial, it probably would. But these are fairly unique uses that are not going to be a significant impact to our system. These are more policy decisions for the board.

MarianoChair

And again, between all the people it's gonna bring in the economic benefit plus all the extra taxes you'll pay by building four weeks one anyway, if we can encourage that I think it's a good thing to encourage

Unidentified speakerVoice A

it.

Right. I'm just being honest with you. Yeah.

Oakley

You don't see me I don't know if are there any golf well the one down at two rivers I guess that's a golf course. That's in Hillsborough County, not here, so Um you don't have this many new golf courses coming about. So

MarianoChair

And so can we shift it to golf course then? So my my we're thinking with the golf courses. We've lost Quail Hollow a few years ago. We lost Tim Broaks. We just lost the Lynx golf course. And there was a time when golf was declining. But golf is booming more than ever now. So now there's more demand for it. Uh it's it's it's hard let's say up in Hudson when you you got one course to pick from, and that's kind of what drove that. And it drives up the price, et cetera. And people have to drive further to go play. Right. So if you're gonna

put more golf courses up to me, we can use it for the drainage anyway, which is what these things were designed for to do, is like accept your around it, uh the drainage around it. So however they set it up, if you want to break it down we could to be whether it be a residential community, some just builds a golf course, whatever it may be, there's a lot of benefits to it as well that I think, you know, warrant to if not bring it to zero, at least reduce it down dramatically. Mm-hmm.

Mike Carballa

Yeah.

Commissioner Oakley Nick, was there anything magical with four sheets of ice versus I I don't know what rinks look like in other communities and if four is a good number or Something more, something less. I was just curious.

Sun Coast

I'm afraid that rigorous analysis was not performed in developing the

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I don't know if is are Adam or Consuelo here or not.

So um we probably could bring Adam up. I it really depends on what level ring number of rings you would need to for it to be a tourism draw. 'Cause that was really the intent. Um And Adam, do you have a thoughts on like how many rinks you would need minimum for it to be a tourism draw?

Pasco County

Uh yes sir. Currently um Advent Health Center Ice is four and a half NHL Olympic size sheets of ice. It's constantly full, the event calendar is full. So you probably need for an adequate an amount at least three to pull off an an event. Four, obviously, the more sheets of ice, the better. But three, but right now.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So tha that was really the determining factor, Mike, is w at what level is it a tourism draw? 'Cause that was the intent.

MarianoChair

So I'm I'm comfortable with the four number. I think it just makes it that much more significant. And if we're gonna bring it down to zero, let's make 'em a little bit more. Yeah.

Okay. Alright, so coming with that. What what do we think about the golf?

Oakley

Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

I'm fine.

MarianoChair

Good. Okay. All right. We're good to make those changes.

Sun Coast

Thank you.

This is

great.

MarianoChair

And any other questions for staff? Let's start.

Sun Coast

Uh we were asking or suggested you take public comment today. Yes,

MarianoChair

gonna do that now. Okay. So th this is gonna be heard in two more weeks at the Board of County Commissioners next meeting, but is anyone from the public would like to comment to this that's sitting in the audience now? Okay. Anyone signed up online?

Starkey

No one is online.

MarianoChair

Okay. So we'll continue to next meeting. Thank you very much. Okay.