Parade barricades purchase for Holiday Rotary and community

1:34:16You gotta hurry. Okay. Um on on the barricades, uh years ago the county commission uh worked with T D C. T D C funded the barricades. You heard the story about how well the situation is. Um Chasco Fiesta's coming up and there is a actually three bids that were done, they looked at it and they can actually get them in time for the upcoming Chasco Fiesta parade. um which was only a couple of weeks away. And to make it happen. I

1:34:47need to make a motion for the TASCO County DOCC to donate TDC money of $139,030 to the Holiday Rotary Rotary as a 51C3 with the stipulation the funds be used to purchase the barricades and maybe utilized by the county and the other nonprofits.

1:35:10So who would um

1:35:11Where's this money

1:35:12come from?

1:35:13Uh I suggest tourist development just as we had done before.

1:35:17Well I'm not gonna I'm not gonna second

1:35:19that.

1:35:20The as I recall what what you did before was T D C bought the barricades and then at some point you transferred them to the rotary because we were having to ma move them. We didn't move T D C funds directly into the not for profits accounts.

1:35:40Right and and I got purchasing talk to it why they need why they suggested that we go this way.

1:35:45Well so I think if if I may real quick just in in terms of source of funding, I I think you probably need to put that purview on administration to determine. Yeah, this is seems to me like as as the statements even were made during public common, legitimate public safety type expense. So whether it's tourism funds Funds, whether it's public safety funds or general funds, I think you should leave that to me to make that call if that's okay. Furthermore, I think that in order to expedite

1:36:15things that the board really give the funds directly to the rotary of holiday with the express stipulation that that's what they're going to purchase with them. Certainly would streamline the procurement process. I'm looking at from my I'm seeing head nods from Carrie, and you know, obviously you're gonna cut that to a nonprofit is with with the stipulation, and I think we can ensure that. Uh the the county really, quite honestly, I have no desire to to store or manage

1:36:46or maintain these barricades. So I presume that the city of Newport Ritchie or the Rotary would would manage. that for now and into the future. But those would be my concerns over this, provided that in you know whatever the board decides.

1:36:59And and I think that I would want to give in the motion the flexibility for you to kind of make that arrangement happen so we get the security that they stay uh for Pasco County's uh use as well.

1:37:09Mr. Boitler.

1:37:10Thank you, Chair. I'm not opposed it's it's probably time we get some more barricades since our events are growing, more folks are coming in to town or you know more people moving here. But I think it these barricades need to be a county owned asset, whether Parks manages them or something, if we're going to take funds to buy 'em, which I think they're necessary, but I think the county needs to maintain ownership and if a club needs them or something we create a process for

1:37:40them to use however many many they need because it should be a universal as events grow that way we just don't buy 'em for one select group. I think these need to be a an offering countywide asset for any kind of big public you know festival or what have you.

1:37:58And the the city New Port Richey. as well. So I think I th I I like I said, I I give the county administrator the chance to work out the details. It just happens to be because this parade's coming up and you heard all the work it's gonna take to get all those barricades, all those business people are gonna drive down, come back up, etcetera. If they just get delivered here, now it's just a matter of our our our own goodies from the from the jail out there putting them all up. It'll save a lot of time, grief, and just prevent any accidents from happening. These barricades in place.

1:38:28Mr. Chairman?

1:38:29Yes.

1:38:29I I'm more in agreement with that than uh I don't even think that is a correct process for us to just sit here and spend T D C money. I mean they have a board and they have a process. And so for us to just step in and spend their money with so um if you think you have the money um then I would agree with Whiteman that um you know public safety at some of these events is is important. Um another idea too is and I don't know how quickly you can buy barricades, I have no idea, but

1:39:01can we lend resources to go down to Tampa and pick some up? I kinda like the idea of sharing with the different communities. because uh you know, how often are they really used? Um But in the short term is that an option? Um but I would be in support if of purchasing them if everyone thinks they're really needed.

1:39:22It seems it seems like the cities control those things. They they have blockades and all every city. Daddy City has them and Jeffrey Hills has them so I would assume New Port Richey has 'em to a point or Port Ritchie. But I think it'd be best to let the administrator look into this and if you have to just call If it comes out of a different plan and doesn't look like it should go that way, then we need to know how it should go. That's fair to everybody.

1:39:53Not just buy for w one one group and Go for one show.

1:39:59And Mr. Chairman in years past it was designed where, like I said, it was it was It was used for T D C funds years ago. Whether it's used for that fund, I'm I'm not biased to one or the other, but I knew that was just the venue we'd done before, so I was comfortable with it. I can put the flexibility in that motion, uh up to the administrator decide how how he wants to pay for it. But the timing of it was critical and that's why I had to bring it quick without going to G. So they don't have any now,

1:40:23is that the problem?

1:40:24They don't have enough now, they had about half what they need. Yeah. They have to borrow 'em, they've got to drive all the way to Tampa and you heard all the business people gotta go make that move 'cause we can't go do that. Uh this way here we just streamline everything and then we can work out the arrangements like they're going to be. They didn't know it

1:40:37till now? What's that? They wouldn't have known this when they finished last year.

1:40:42I I I had brought it up a few months back. Nothing happened with it, so it just kinda come up again to say let let's go see if we can find it. They went out and actually looked and got some small vendors, they got three bids, checked them all out, found out what the the availability was and they just got that back to me like two days ago. So

1:40:59I I think uh too if I'm a

1:41:02quick decision for

1:41:03I I had a conversation with Michael Cox um And I think that they used to also get some from Dun the city of Dunedin, but they won't share theirs. I think that's what you said. They're they're not they must be using them or something. So um again my I think the two options are we help provide resources to go down and get the ones from Tampa if they're willing to share, or um or we figure out a way to help pay for them. But it seems like maybe the city should pitch in something 'cause the parades are in the city, not the county. But

1:41:33um But still. Uh I think it's a good thing that our parades are growing um in popularity and we don't want to have, you know, the child run over by a float. Um and so if we save one life, you know, with more barriers, it's it's a good thing. So

1:41:50So I'll make a motion to buy the barricades for the amount of money up to $139,030, give the administrator the flexibility to set up the terms of the purchase as well as storage and control of it later.

1:42:05Meaning it remained a county asset, but

1:42:08I then I if I can clarify well I don't I'll let you decide if there's a second or not. But um just to clarify, uh I think the city of Newport Ritchie was willing to store them, so if the county has access to them, is that okay versus the county storing them or is your intent, Commissioner, to have the county maintain possession at all times of these assets?

1:42:26I I don't I don't have a preference of where they're stored. It's a counted asset,

1:42:31yeah

1:42:31therefore County should be able to have you're the ruler of those correct in charge of those, but

1:42:39good spirit of who uses the barricades stored wherever.

1:42:44Okay. And does the board have a problem with us um you know, if we're going to streamline this and make this quick to uh essentially cut a check to the five O one C three, the Rotary of of Holiday, in order to expedite the purchase that's if if we purchase them then

1:43:00I would object to that.

1:43:01You would okay. I would

1:43:02I would too.

1:43:03Okay.

1:43:05It just doesn't seem the right way to doing your doing a rush job, wouldn't it? I mean, somebody had to know this way before now and we should have known it before now so we don't have to rush in such a decision to spend citizens' money for one community over others. So

1:43:21That's that's I mean

1:43:22that's a And in years past those barricades were g gone to both sides of the county. Dade City's Ever Hills could get to use them as well and stored and some of them are still up there from the initial purchase. So if you're whenever anybody needs them they they should have access to them.

1:43:37If you will look into this and then see which way we need to go

1:43:40I I I think the motion was was I think it was clear. Uh up to a hundred and thirty nine 300 or 30, you had the number flexibility to determine the the funding source and then of course we'll we'll take the most expedient procurement path that is within the board borders. So

1:43:59my problem is is the fact that we got $139,000 laying around to buy these these things. It concerns me that we automatic real quickly go do something like that. Without some more thought and it really.

1:44:14So let me let me ask a question. Is um it's public safety. Is that part of Penny for Pasco?

1:44:21Um I again I'm I'm thinking through number of of of options on that, so I w wouldn't be my my head has gone there, yes ma'am. I I'm not saying that that's uh we I have to vet that.

1:44:32Okay, let me let me ask Commissioner Mariano a question. Um what Do you know what the turnaround time was to get them delivered?

1:44:39They can get these to the eighteenth, the parade I think is the twenty third. So That's

1:44:44pretty tight.

1:44:44That's it's super tight. That's why we had to com I had to bring it today.

1:44:50Okay, well I I'm sure that you guys can figure out cobbling sources and frank and again I would make a call to the cities. I mean we're getting hit with this at the last minute too but seems like the parades are in the city so maybe they can participate in some way. In the cost, as we can say.

1:45:10No, I'll let I'll let wait one second, Nick. I'm not crazy about it.

1:45:16Jeff and I have hadn't had time to to to really you know coordinate on this but I mean one one option is if you could allow me to sole source it that that would certainly expedite the uh the procurement process. I'll add that to the motion?

1:45:31Well if it's a sole source, it's a sole source. That's a decision your purchasing director needs to make. I don't know I would think that barricades are available from more than one source, but that would be a p a procurement question. Okay.

1:45:44I don't know if stuff.

1:45:50Well

1:45:53For the sake of public safety and I feel like this is an asset that the county needs and will use for, I mean, what's the life on these things? Ten years or more? I'm sure. In between. Yeah, we'll we'll I think we'll use these more regularly. Um it's a bit of a fire drill, but uh I'll I'll trust the county administrator and I'll second the motion.

1:46:16District 5, Commissioner Mariano. District One Chairman Oakley.

1:46:20Alright.