Wesley Chapel District Park groundbreaking, County Line Road
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Thank you, Madam Clerk. Um again, we're going to come back to Commissioner Starkey in the afternoon. Um, just to reiterate, reiterate what Commissioner Oakley said. Um, it was great to have, we had our first again virtual groundbreaking over at Wesley Chapel District Park and went very well. Um, myself, Commissioner Oakley, um, Dan Biles, Eric Brightonbach, Keith Wiley, and Todd, Tom Fitzsimmons. He's from the Wesley Chapel Athletic Association attended that. The PIO's office did a great job putting a video
together. that went on the county's uh social media platforms and we obviously received a very, very, very good feedback on that. So excited for our citizens. Um hopefully by this time next year they'll be uh indoors instead of having to play basketball and volleyball and such outdoors and 120 degree heat on that cement. So it's gonna be really, really, really nice for them. So thank you to everybody involved. We appreciate all your work and efforts. Um, just one thing I'm gonna bring up, and I may have to ask Mr. Biles or um
since Mike's here. Um, I am excited about something, and you know, we've we've talked about this for a few years um since I've been on the commission, that County Line Road. needed um some desperate attention to it. So that is being worked on. I think it's in any in the coming days, I think that project's gonna start from my understanding, we're looking at the what would be considered the westbound portion. eastbound
portion. Sorry, I apologize. It's it's very confusing over there if it's north south east west, right? You could I think you could easily call it north and south if you wanted to, but it would be the eastbound. Lane. Um Which is the one in front of the school. For the elementary school.
You're not okay. It well it that that that's the one. So I'm happy that's being done. Now I will I will say this though. I I do question. And I know we've been going back and forth the last couple of days with the team. I do question why we would not go ahead. and do the Other side. of the road when we do have contractors out there and I would assume that within the next couple years we're going to have to go back. I was thinking
it'd be more cost effective at this time. And I know and I and apologize. I know when I was going back and forth, I think, with Ainsley.
Give me one second here, I apologize.
Two
Yeah, I that's right. So the um
Mm-hmm.
The westbound lanes, you know, has a lot of crack crack seal and then there are some potholes on it.
the eastbound lane will go all the way down to full depth reclamation, which is great because it needs that again, especially in front of the elementary school in that section. But I I just I can't I just kind of question why we're not going to go ahead
and do the other portion. And and I spoke with staff this morning about about the decision to do that. Full depth reclamation is very expensive. They they took core samples along those that that southern half, if you will, eastbound, uh, and and it showed a lot of base failure. So it's about a $1.4 million job just to do those eastbound lanes. Um According to staff, and based on our current methodology, they believe there is at least five years, if not more, life left on the pavement on the on the westbound
lanes. If we were just to simply mill and overlay that, and we can certainly look more at that, but it would be at about a $750,000 cost to do that. And so staff, staff believes that uh there are some other roads that may be a higher priority, even though there may be. an aesthetic look at uh to it obviously. Um You know, we we do our best to predict based on methodologies and and certainly can apply a little more rigor uh to that uh if if If that's something that we'd like. However You know, that's seven hundred and fifty thousand.
could represent a ripple effect through the program maintenance. And that's really what staff is looking for. They're just trying to make sure that they're they're balancing those.
Right. And I always want to be a obviously a good steward of our tax dollars. At the same time, if we're out there doing crack ceiling and filling in potholes, I think about what is that going to cost uh over the next several years. um and if we go ahead and like you said and just mill and and and pave um maybe that could um I don't know if it'd be break-even point or not, but um I Let me let me ask for that analysis. Yeah, we'll we'll we'll come back. And again, I'm not asking for full full depth reclamation on the other side because I know it does it's
not needed. Um, but And if we're out there. We know what's going to happen three or four years down the road, or we don't know what's going to happen three or four years down the road, but I can tell you one thing to be more expensive. to do the project. That's one thing it's guaranteed. We just don't know how expensive it'll be. Um again, instead of having to send the your crews out there constantly the crack seal and fill potholes in and we know that Again, two or three years down the road, it's gonna be even worse. Why not just get ahead of the game? That's my opinion. Oh
we'll take a look at that life cycle cost and I would appreciate that. Yes, sir. Thank you.