Live Local land use protections

55:47So the next one. I'm gonna give a caveat here that we will tread lately, as we all know. Live local uh when it first passed. We work with the sponsor, uh President Pasadomo, uh, to address uh some of our concerns. We did, uh we were successful uh in how we did on the uh tax exemption, um, but we were not successful on the land use issue, and so we still have concerns. concerns with this uh as we move forward. This may not be the uh the year,

56:17but we do want to keep it on your radar so you know what we are dealing with. But the commissioners felt important that we do make this one of our policies. So I'm gonna have uh our County Attorney David Goldstein who's Become the expert on Live Local just to come up and explain the the land use issue that we are trying to see.

56:39Thank you, Ralph. And and I wanna thank the delegation members for what the support we got last year on the tax side. We just didn't quite get there across the finish line on the land use side. Um I think you all know that we have a lot of commercial industrial property in Pasco County that's still at risk of being converted to apartments basically. And For Pasco County, we have a strong emphasis on job creation. We value our commercial sites. We value our industrial sites. We want to make sure that we're not continuing to just be a bedroom community to Hillsborough and

57:09Penellas. We want to be able to be able to have folks work local, not just live local, but work local. And so for us, protecting those commercial industrial sites is a priority. You know, every time we get a new commercial or industrial rezoning in Pasco County, we make them deed restrict their property. Mr. Weightman's very familiar with this issue. Um, so that they don't invoke Lib Local. So it's still a major issue for us on the land use side. I will tell you that we did have some conversations with the Senate President's office towards the end of the session. When we

57:39got the tax relief, they asked us, Will this shut up Pasco? And my answer was Um not quite. Um because we're still not there on the land use side. So Senate President's office did have some dialogue with us. There was some discussion about maybe limiting it to redevelopment sites. You know, we have We have some redevelopment sites like the Gulf View Square Mall where we've allowed some of that to convert to to to multifamily and it makes sense in certain locations. But I think you all know, you know, Pasco EDC has a Ready Sites program where we have Over

58:10three thousand acres of industrial that we're trying to preserve for employment. And that becomes very difficult when you have Live Local comes in and says that can all be converted to residential. So we still need some relief on that issue and any support we can get from the delegation would be appreciated. Um it sounds like Commissioner Weightman wants to weigh in.

58:29Yeah, Senator Hooper, just Thanks David for the recap there. Pasco is leading the state with the number of commercially zoned properties. Pasco is I think we're number one with those zonings of all the counties. And It's important to remember as we go through the land use side of this bill. We talked about the overpass road interchange. We still have a corner of that road where taxpayers went 65 million invested

58:59in this overpass. that the live local bill is still being dangled. over at us. as that those folks who have that important corner are trying to Uh come up with uh a project that this board made. see as a benefit to the county. But With that said it comes with a residential component. It's highly likely it'll come with a residential component to it, which is completely against what that zoning was set for. So Live Local

59:29is still being used as a leverage point, at least with this government. And uh we just don't want to see that used and it diminished the taxpayer investment on such critical job creating sites uh that PATS boards have voted on and made made you know available for for good commerce. So um just something that we deal with two meetings a month then it's just it's important to us that we save our save our jobs.

59:57Mr. Yeah.

59:58Thank you.

59:59You know when I first ran for office twenty years ago, my number one platform for most economic development. We're a big commuter county. I will tell you as much as I'm thrilled that we're the number one commercially producing county for job shows, we are still a big bedroom community for people after community. And what that does, it affects Penels, it affects Hillsboro. all over the place. So the more jobs we can create here the better. I will say this board's been phenomenal and our citizens have been phenomenal backing our economic development plans. The first penny didn't have anything with economic

1:00:29development, but the last two do. and to hire like a guy like Bill Cronin to come forward and put his team together to bring great companies like Great Line Plastics we just Dari Line Plastic we just brought in. They were expecting they were didn't know if they could build the jobs in. They were expecting three hundred jobs over like four years. In less than nine months they filled six hundred jobs. I mean, you know, with with all we do with the M skills, et cetera. We want to keep on focusing this stuff, but we don't want the s the these apartments to be able to come in and kill us. And

1:00:59frankly, every single commercial problem we've got coming in does all and just change with it. We we did just one the other day for our o o overlay policy. Um where they can't switch it over. But we shouldn't have to do that battle. We shouldn't have to control locally. So somehow we just get that bill to give the local the control. Um, if you need a base on something about commuter rates, whatever, so be it. But something to do that if we've done these things and put things in place, help us create the jobs because it's not only better for us. It's better before.

1:01:30Um David, when you did your analysis, it you found that it really benefited four counties in the in the state. Do you remember?

1:01:38Because they what they said was affordable. They set it up 120%. Um the average median income and I think we discovered last year that there's really only Miami Dade, Broward, and Monroe are the only counties in the state that even have a def major deficit. of housing in that income range. So for Pasco, 120% of AMI is just mark your rate. Apartments. So what we're finding is Live Local is basically just a subsidy for market rate apartments. At least in Pasco.

1:02:08They they kinda lumped Tampa Bay inclusive and you were wrapped up in that number and Um I can't speak for the house, the groups in the Bayer is closer to being or assuming you're being part of that leadership team.

1:02:25I I know on my side I I I think the Senate's gonna have that discussion and and even though President Pasadomo is still in the the chamber for two more years. She's not the president, so um It's been talked about a little bit. I think she is receptive to

1:02:45The the legislature is We we have a great policy if we uh never have time to do it right but we always have time to do it over. And this may be the year we get to do it over and uh fix our we call it a glitch bill.

1:03:00to to take that into consideration uh so I'm I'm hopeful that that discussion will occur early in session, if not in committee week before session.

1:03:10Excellent. Um I don't know if we have anyone here from community development, but Um You know, we did a study. We hired uh the the Pasco Housing Authority hired University of South Florida to do a a housing analysis for Pasco County. And it showed we had plenty at eighty to hundred twenty AMI and plenty in the pipe works where our big deficit is at sixty and under. And um certainly anything that the state can do to help and we're not the only county in that situation and the hurricanes

1:03:40could make has made that much worse for a lot of people. Any help on the sixty and below. Um what is the

1:03:47uh

1:03:49Uh David, do you know what the uh

1:03:51current AMI is for past the I actually don't know. Yeah,

1:03:55I don't remember. I think Kathy Pearson's online. Kathy, do you know by chance?

1:04:02No, I don't. Uh but David, uh you don't happen to have the report handy. We could look that up.

1:04:08Yeah, we'll get it we'll get it sent to you. And it and it changes, you know, it's for a for a family of two it's this, for a family of four it's that. Um we are proud that uh in the next few weeks. I think we I think uh one just closed. Dominium just closed on a sixty uh they're gonna be building a sixty AMI, two hundred about two hundred sixty bed unit or apartment unit out by Anklot High School. It was on surplus school property

1:04:39and they got all their funding so I think they're ready to go. There's also an adult um age restricted, one that the city of Newport Ritchie is doing that we partnered with behind the Southgate public. So I'm sure those will be filled the minute the doors uh are open there, but the the need is is greater than the supply that we have.

1:05:02So it's not that we're against that kind of housing at all.

1:05:09is lumped into a a group of counties that may have a different scenario that that we do and we understand that. So

1:05:19I do think that um adding changing that term out redevelopment really cleans it up a lot.