PC-8 PDD 23-7681 Gayetto MPUD rezoning at State Road 54

59:16Yeah. All right. Well, what's next? Um item P eight. Gato M P U D.

59:27Okay.

59:36Good afternoon, Amy Heiler with Long Range Planning.

59:41Today you are hearing the rezoning petition, uh, PDD 23 7681 in the name of Gayetto. The petitioner is requesting a rezoning from C2 General Commercial District and AR Agricultural Residential District to MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District or Master Plan Development District. For parcels located at the southwest intersection of Gunn Highway and State Road 54 to allow for 320 multifamily

1:00:11residential units and 12,000 square feet of commercial office. The subject site is located in the South Market Area and Urban Service Area. Here's the aerial view of where this is generally located. And this is the existing zoning. Here's your visual for the future land use.

1:00:35And your surrounding development or surrounding M Ps.

1:00:42Just to advise as well, there is no map on this one. This is actually one of the first projects that is coming in within the county-initiated Odessa Town Center. There is a future land use amendment that is currently in the process for this. This area is identified as the mixed use area for that Odessa Town Center. So the applicant is requesting uh two variations from the code. So I'll read those into record. The first variation

1:01:12is LDC section 905.1E, Neighborhood Park. The applicant is proposing a total park acreage for multifamily parcels to equal at least 10% of the upland acreage within multifamily parcels, and the standard LDC provision shall apply to determine what land and facilities may be counted towards those neighborhood parks or those multifamily park areas. Additionally, squares, parks, and plazas can be a minimum of one-sixth acre in size and counted towards the requirement

1:01:42of neighborhood parks, provided they contain hardscapes and/or programmable

1:01:50elements such as seating sculptures, fountains, or play structures, on-site portion of the trail system required within this MPDL.

1:02:02The second variation request is for LDC Section 402.5D, administrative use permits for the sale of alcoholic beverages, due to the location of this site being generally located near, but outside of the thousand-foot distance of the school, place, or worship place of worship or park, the applicant has requested the variation from the sale of alcoholic beverages. So staff's analysis on both of these items. So staff's planning and development

1:02:33actually defers to the parks, parks, recs, and natural resources assessment for the variation to section LDC 905.1E as it supports the request, as they we support the request of the cited section in the land development. Code. The analysis is multifamily parcels are intended to be developed with a higher density than other residential developments. Therefore, basing park acreage on upland acreage of the site rather than the number of proposed uses units

1:03:03is more appropriate. Per parks, rec and natural resources staff analysis, they acknowledge the constraints of the current LDC relating to multifamily development project. In particular, The development size and specific characteristics of multifamily development and the need for greater flexibility in neighborhood park design. Staff finds the proposed park request set forth in the multifamily parcels, provides more flexibility to determine the park level of service and identify the need based on size, location, and

1:03:33form as it provides a balance with the surrounding community and aligns with the intent of the proposed code. Yeah. And the last uh staff analysis for section 402.5 D, administrative use permits for the sale of alcoholic beverages. Planning and development staff is amenable to the applicant's request and supports the requested relief from the cited section of the code. The specific distance limitation for alcoholic beverages, beverage sale, and consumption from pre-K through 12th

1:04:04grade. uh public or private schools, places of worship and county parks as intended. To be waived. At the time of this rezoning, there are no places of worship, public-private schools, or parks within a thousand feet of the project's boundary. The applicant shall require and obtain administrative use permits for the sale of alcoholic beverages in accordance with the code. There is a school site, daycare, and a cemetery, but they are located. Located

1:04:34outside of the thousand foot buffer, they are within approximately twenty five hundred feet of the subject site. Here is the master plan of the proposed development. Along the frontage, being red is going to have your mixed use, vertically integrated non-residential uses, the brown portion being your multifamily pushed to the rear, and then your open spaces and trails. This is a submitted conceptual plan for the proposed development as well.

1:05:05And I will run through the findings of facts for the proposed rezoning petition. LDC section 402.2 specifies variations from the code have been reviewed and or may be reviewed and approved by PC and BCC during public hearing. Staff has reviewed the requested variations and find they meet the intent of the code. The existing future land use is currently ROR, Retail Office Residential and Res 9. There is a proposed future land use amendment in the name

1:05:35of Odessa Town Center PD, running concurrently with this proposed rezoning. The proposed flu amendment was heard at the local planning agency on February 16th, 2023, and voted unanimously to. approved. The BCC also heard the item on March 21st and voted unanimously to transmit the amendment to the state. The proposed MPUD is located within what's called the mixed-use residential village of the proposed county initiated Odessa Town Center area plan. Which is intended

1:06:06to be designed with higher density residential, integrated neighborhoods serving non-residential uses in a pedestrian-scaled walkable environment. The applicant intends to meet the intent of the vertically integrated non-residential uses along State Road 54 and setting the higher density multifamily to the rear. Proposed rezoning is consistent with the character of the surrounding area. as it's classified for higher density, with the higher density residential mixed use development across the s across State Road 54 being Starkey,

1:06:36Ranch MPUD. We also have Trinity Community MPD to the west and Suncoast Retail MP and Ashley Lakes to the east. The area is located outside of the Multifamily Residential Policy Directive Moratorium, which established the 2,000-foot buffer along State Road 54, setting multifamily back to the rear. Although it is outside of the moratorium boundary, the applicant is still abiding by that. The proposed MPD is located in the Sancos

1:07:06Parkway Transit Center and urban service area which is intended to focus the higher density residential development. And the school districts bus stations located to the south as well, within the proposed development along Interlain Road. The applicant has agreed to construct a multi-use trail along the boundaries east to the west, extending from the south of the project boundary to Interlay and Road and through the project to Blissfield. Approximately four acres of the project. includes

1:07:37a category two wetland which will serve as an amenity to the development. And lastly, the proposed request is consistent with the Pasco County LDC Chapter 400, subsection 402.2 zoning amendment, and with the applicable provisions of the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. And with that we recommend approval of conditions to the BCC. And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

1:08:02Amy just to be clear You said that it was outside the boundaries of a moratorium. Correct. I think your agenda amendment says it's outside the boundaries of the

1:08:12Yes.

1:08:13That's not the same as a moratorium.

1:08:15I meant the policy directive, thank you.

1:08:16Okay, there's in fact there's no eff

1:08:18moratorium in effect anyway. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, policy directive.

1:08:25Any questions, Rami, up here? All right. Thanks.

1:08:30Thank you.

1:08:31Thank you, Amy.

1:08:35Come forward, sir.

1:08:40Joel II, Palm Harbor, Florida land use consultant for the applicant. I got bored with my retirement, decided to pay you a visit today. Just to keep you guys honest.

1:08:53I have the pleasure of representing the developer who is the property purchaser, uh Altus Cardinal Living. They are a high-end mixed-use developer from Miami. This is their entree in DePasco County. Uh they're one of a handful of of quality mixed use developers who are are finally sticking sticking their toe into the market here uh in Pasco. They have a large project downtown St. Petersburg that is in the permitting stage, also a

1:09:23mixed-use residential and and retail office project. As Ms. Eiler said, we're kind of the initiator, if you will, of this uh State Route 54 gun highway, now known as the Odessa Town Center. We asked the county to work with us to figure out how to do that. And as you'll recall, very recently you moved forward, the county initiated plan amendment that established this

1:09:53overall planning framework for that entire southwest quadrant of Gun Highway N54. all the way from the cemetery on the west to Gunn Highway. Um we were allowed, and we appreciate that to start this MPUD concurrent, roughly concurrent with the Plan Amendment. Uh it's been a long, almost two-year process. We're very happy to finally be here. Uh and our MPUD is the westernmost parcel. in that new Odessa

1:10:24town center planning area. Um We have agreed, as as Mr. Goldstein was clarifying, we've agreed to basically abide by the policy directive. that requires vertical mixed use buildings on the road frontage, even though we technically are outside that policy directive area. This was important to the resident commissioner and the PDD. And because my client is a mixed use developer, they're they're happy to do that. So our front two buildings which you

1:10:54saw on the uh concept plan The entire first floor of those two buildings will be retail and or office. Uh we're hoping for the right mix for mixed use. We're hoping those will be restaurants, uh, coffee shops, uh, craft brewery, craft distillery, you know, boutique shops uh that will lend itself and we should be hopefully the catalyst. to help get this town center off the ground. So as I said, those front two buildings are

1:11:24mandatory vertical mixed use, not optional. And then of course the buildings behind it will be your traditional multifamily project tied into that. Uh the request specifically is for 320 multifamily units with the mandatory 12,000 square feet of commercial and/or office. in the ground floor of the front buildings. It's important to note that Mr. Gaeto, the property owner, who's been very patient with us through this process to get the entitlements before closing, he

1:11:54already has existing C2 commercial on that State Route 52 front. So he could right now develop you know typical commercial outparcels, strip out parcels on the frontage. So that's why it's very important in our mind that we get this approved as a mandatory mixed-use project. Otherwise, you're likely to get a very different continuation of strip-out parcels on the frontage, which could be done now. We are consistent with the New Odessa Town Center plan.

1:12:25As we said, we are part of what is called the mixed use residential village portion of that. Um we have agreed two important two important uh notes here. This north-south trail along our western boundary will be a full-fledged 16-foot multi-use trail. And we have agreed to build it not only within our project, but most importantly, we've agreed with the county and the school district to build it from our south boundary line all the way down to Interlaken.

1:12:56The school district has not only the bus depot, but they also have an elementary school. Down there on Metter Locken. So right now there's kind of a missing link in that main Trinity Trail connection getting to 54. So importantly, this project will build that missing link that will get that trail all the way up to 54 so that once the county figures out where and how to cross 54, whether that's at Gunn Highway or somewhere else, it then will connect to the trail on the north side in.

1:13:26Starkey and then go all the way out. So this is a very important piece. And we are we're going to construct that as the county's as the county's agent, including the off-site portion. We also have agreed to extend that trail east-west through the center of our project so that it will align with what is called Blissville Road, that will be the primary east-west roadway through the Odessa Town Center. And lastly, uh we have what

1:13:56is likely to be the only full intersection connection into all of Odessa Town Center because we have an existing median cut that F DOT constructed that we're going to use as our primary entrance hall 54. And it is far enough from State Road 54 that DOT has agreed it can remain that way and that it also can be signalized when warrants are met. So almost all the traffic coming into Odessa Town Center, west of Gunn Highway, will feed actually

1:14:27through our project, which will be right between those mixed-use buildings. So it'll help feed that retail area and hopefully help it be successful. They'll come into the center of our project, then turn and go east internally and disperse to the rest of Odessa Town Center. Our timing and phasing analysis was approved on the transportation side and we've already specified the intersection improvements that we're required to build there at 54. And we've also agreed to pay our proportionate

1:14:57share for the future signalization if and when DOT will approve the signal for the overall project. Um And then to conclude, the two variations, unfortunately they have to be written up as variations. You see these all the time, but both of these requests are completely typical and completely normal. For these types of projects. The 10% park variation is actually the new standard. It's what parks and recreation always

1:15:27supports on the multifamily projects, the 10% requirement. So this has been approved over and over and over the last two, three, four years. We just simply have to write it up and you have to approve it as a variation. The same for the alcohol. Beverage variance. This is completely typical in mixed-use projects for the simple reason that we want these restaurants and these other potential uses, but you create your own problem because of a mixed-use property, you very easily down the road

1:15:57could have internally one of these uses within a thousand feet that could then preclude the A-B license. So that's why we've learned the hard way to go ahead and get those pre-approved before you start. So everyone knows that if they elect one of those uses, they're and we run into this with school sites all the time. So we're we're used to doing this. So my point is they're written up as variations, but both of these are the new normal and the traditional. And hopefully, one day we can get around to actually amending

1:16:27the land. development code to state that this is the rule so that we don't have to process variations with every application. So happy to answer any questions and also respond to any comments, uh but that's it in a nutshell and we're happy we're happy to be here at the end of the process.

1:16:46I was just gonna thank you for working with us on the trail. We appreciate that.

1:16:50You're welcome. And it should be it should be very helpful.

1:16:53Yes. So Joel speaking of the trail, um This is one situation where the lawyers did a better job than the planners. Not unusual. Good job. Um the because the conditions of approval are very clear about the North South Trail But I don't know that the M P D Plan and Concept Plan Got updated to match the written condition. And so if you look at the M P D plan It doesn't have the north south trail going all the way down to interlock and And then if you look at

1:17:23the concept plan

1:17:28So Is there any way that this can be updated?

1:17:31Yeah we will we will make sure that that gets updated in the BCC agenda package. Uh happy to do that. And we'll show that off site segment on the MPUD plan going all the way to Interlicken.

1:17:42So kudos to the lawyers on your team, shame on the planners and your team.

1:17:46What can what can I say?

1:17:48Mm-hmm. Yeah,

1:17:50I'm a little offended it wasn't updated in our package.

1:17:53Right. Can't blame Joel. He was the lawyer. Well he

1:17:57was

1:17:57No, I'm not he's not acting as the lawyer. He was the drafter of the c of the language.

1:18:04I wanna know why you showed up without a stenographer.

1:18:08But I'd give you guys

1:18:09a break. I know you miss me. Thank thank you all. We're happy to come back if there are any questions.

1:18:16Thank you. All right, are there any people from the public with questions? If there is, please come forward and state your name and address, please. And we'll try to get any questions answered for you.

1:18:31My name is Lynn Zablo. I live at [address removed]. On the property to the west of the One that they're trying to rezone. I'm a wildlife rehabilitator and I'm very concerned about the traffic and the trash and everything I'm gonna have from all these uh residence is gonna be in there and the other thing I'm concerned about is the Blissfield Road, if they're not gonna use it. There needs to be a fence or a wall or something because they have

1:19:01s um taken those trees out before. There's trees there right now and they've cut 'em all down and used it to get in and out before and I can't be there to police it. to keep all these people that are gonna be there and get frustrated going out State Road fifty four. They'll be trying to come down Blissfield Road, which is a um just a limestone road. It's not maintained from my property down to where they're talking about making Blissfield Road and they close that road on their property. Where Blissfield Road goes, they closed

1:19:31it and didn't notify any of the neighbors of it and that upset me. But I'd like to see 'em put a wall between my property and their property, like the bus garage did to keep the property and the people and the trespassing. and everything else down.

1:19:45Okay. 'Cause

1:19:45I don't know how I'm gonna be able to control people cutting through my yard and stuff 'cause I have ten acres there and they'll be coming right through my property and Trash will be coming over. Even the bus garage they throw the trash over the wall.

1:19:57Okay, and then Blissfield goes right through your property.

1:20:00Pardon me?

1:20:01Blissfield goes right through your property?

1:20:03It's in front of my property.

1:20:04So you're to the east of

1:20:06I'm to the east. I'm sorry, the east of the property.

1:20:09Mm. Okay. All right, good. We'll try to get those answered for you.

1:20:13All right, thank you.

1:20:14Thank you very much.

1:20:19Hey guys.

1:20:20Thank you again. Herbert Heap, [address removed]. Okay, my property sits on the corner of Old Gunner Highway and Blissfield Road. I believe everybody knows you come out the southwest corner of that flea market, you're gonna be looking at my place. And anyway, uh Tony Gate who had b had bought owned the property on the front there on fifty four where he sells his gates. He brought the surplus property behind him across Blissfield from the school board. Pasco County

1:20:50School Board had surplus property. So he uh In turn owned the property on both sides of Blissfield, so he closed it. Pasco County Let him close it. Never contacted any of us. So I'm what I'm afraid of a little bit here is they're gonna try to slip this through Got another developer that's already doing it. Uh on Blissfield if they uh start to build this and they'll start running trucks in and a little truck here and a little truck there and a concrete truck here and and not make any improvements. Uh they're they're doing it right behind

1:21:20the Dunkin' Donuts right now on Mammoth They uh putting in that big storage garage. They uh have taken the fence down and they're running trucks in and out on Mammoth right now and haven't done a thing to improve the road, so I'm afraid this is what's gonna happen the Blissfield. And like to see you sort of look at it and Like Lynn said, uh I think there needs to be a wall put up uh I know Chris is familiar with what we did there with the wall between us and the school bus garage and and uh they throw the people throw the garbage over the wall

1:21:50And Saturday, I know you haven't heard about it, but they uh somebody broke in, jumped the fence, got into my property, got into my shop, broke the windows out, got in, stole they were two guns, they were pellet guns and and uh this is what's happening to our neighborhood.

1:22:06There's some way we can put get that wall up. They're gonna do Blizzfield, do it before they start building, and don't start running trucks up and down through there and Whatever. They'd probably be known to me as a Pain in the butt because because I sit there on that corner property and I won't uh sign the papers because so far all the developers that have showed up are a bunch of shysters. And the letters of intent have not been very good, so I don't want to sell out. When they get old gun highway built, and

1:22:36maybe the f free market gets the lows built. Uh uh might you might get rid of me, but until then I'm gonna be a pain in the butt to you. Okay, guess my time's out. You're allowed to do that. I think last time I was here my wife was in the in uh long term hospital and she passed away March sixth, so uh I'm not here fighting it alone.

1:23:00Thank you very much for coming.

1:23:03Is there anyone else who would like to speak?

1:23:06Hello?

1:23:12Joel too again for the applicant. I'll I'll try to address from our standpoint those comments and then uh PDD may well want to wade in because most of this is the county's decision, uh not ours. The portion of Blissville Road uh that was within our property, my understanding is the prior property owner. And the county did vacate that. One important thing about our approval is we actually pretty much re-establish that, if you will. Right now we don't have any obligation

1:23:42for that, but as you see from our concept plan, we actually will be be bringing that entrance south from 54, the primary entrance. And then rebuilding that east-west connection road. And the county has told us that we have to line up our internal piece of that with where Blissville Road stops at our eastern boundary. So we have to line that up because, as I said, ultimately from the county's perspective on its overall plan. that east-west movement on Blissville

1:24:13is the internal movement. Um we will be happy to stipulate That we will not use existing Blissville Road for any construction access whatsoever. And that's not the plan, and we're certainly happy to have that as an added condition. We will simply access all 54 with our existing median cut access. If the county wants on an interim basis us to barricade. Blissfield on our

1:24:43eastern boundary. That's up to the county. They may not want to do that because I think their point is that once we build our internal roadways, they won't Blissville, obviously connecting to 54. But perhaps just the stipulation that we won't use that for any construction contract will help appease the other property owners on an interim basis. Uh as to the property owner adjacent on our eastern boundary, my understanding is her property lies

1:25:13entirely s south of Blissfield. And of course, east of us. As I said, we don't control future construction of Blissfield. That's going to be up to the county and whichever development projects come in east of us. But on our adjacent boundary, we are going to comply with the land development code requirements as to the normal buffering and landscaping and setbacks. But it's my understanding from the resident commissioner and PDD, they very much,

1:25:44the whole point of the Odessa Town Center Plan is that this is to be a pedestrian-friendly, connected environment long-term. Now, obviously, on an interim basis, no property owner is required to sell. They're not required to develop. They're not required to rezone. This is a lot like Connected City and V O P H where basically it just says if you do elect to redevelop or rezon, then you have to do so in accordance with this overall plan. So

1:26:14we think it's critically important that we not start constructing artificial barriers that are really the antithesis of what the Odessa Town Center. concept is, which is pedestrian interconnectiv interconnectivity and ultimately this open town center feel. So that would be my proposal is that we not do anything different than what the plan contemplates on our eastern boundary. And certainly our quality

1:26:45project is going to have its own refuse collection and its rules and we're going to enforce those and we're not going to allow people to to you know misuse someone's adjacent property. So my thought would be add the condition on the no construction access on Blissfield if you see fit to do that and then let Blissfield Road Development play out the way it's supposed to play out long term under the plan. Thank you. you.

1:27:13Are you willing to uh construct a wall as proposed by the

1:27:17No. No. No, that's what I'm saying. I think that is actually contrary to the Odessa Town Center plan. Thank you. Uh I'll let Terry speak to that, but I I don't think they want to start walling off every one of these parcels.

1:27:33Thank you, Mr. Chairman Mariano Mr. Hansel's qu uh question. Um the long term intent is for Blissfield to be a connected street that would bring people to the future signal that's at Uh I guess that would be Blissfield all the way to fifty four. uh and that in at that intersection. Um I don't think that there's a need to actually Barricade the stub that this project will establish at the eastern

1:28:04boundary of their site, mainly because the right-of-way is currently overgrown, the Blissfield right-of-way that currently exists east of this site is overgrown in trees and such. And that right-of-way likely will not be. Developed into a road unless the properties to the east of the Gaillerosite. are themselves redeveloped. and the road gets built, at which point th those trees will probably come down at that at that time. Um

1:28:34in addition, the paved portions of Blissfield and even the unpaved portions at Bliss of Blissfield. fizzle out into those trees. So it's it's not there's not even a you know, a path, so to speak, on the right of way. It's just land with trees on it at this point. Um so there's a natural barrier as it is.

1:28:57Okay.

1:28:59Yeah, yeah. I just want to make a clear clarification to ensure that the individuals who address that issue understood the reasoning behind it is you want to you want this Blueprint to be very clear and very clean and very attractive looking in by blocking in areas or barricading areas in you they They need to know that th that that is not going to happen and there are reasons for it that you want this

1:29:25Yeah.

1:29:28And in the meantime, right. And in the meantime, there is uh Th there is the ability to focus all of the people and future residents that will live at this particular site towards fifty four. They won't have any way to get through on Blissfield because that connection doesn't currently exist.

1:29:47W which that would kind of negate the whole uh uh condition that we're talking about of no construction traffic because there's no way to get construction traffic through there at the moment.

1:29:57True. Yeah. Uh the trees are the overgrowth is there. Um, but it it certainly provides some um comfort, some level of comfort that The right of way won't be cleared because construction traffic can't use that anymore. Well the

1:30:13developer couldn't clear that. It would have to be the The county they would clear that that right away anyway.

1:30:21M Mr. Two, to speak to the uh the boundary on Ms. Abelow's property, you've got a type B buffer in the northern portion of your property? And a type A it looks like on the south, would you be willing to bring that type B? All the way down.

1:30:39Sure.

1:30:40Just I'm checking

1:30:42where

1:30:42the buffers

1:30:43are. So there's about there's a type B right there and it terminates it. Yeah, she's right here. The she's this property here. So it's a type A. Here.

1:30:57Down to the type of

1:30:58type

1:30:58B on the w so it's

1:30:59type B on the northern portion of the property and it transitions to a type A. It's type B all the way down the West side of

1:31:07the property as well. Joel.

1:31:09Yeah, I mean the concern there is the site is tight uh with the building layout and the parking. I think that's why they went with the A on that part. Uh I think the answer of that would be that if in the site plan we can still make the parking work with the building configuration then then yes. Uh but I'd hate to commit that in the MPUD before they've done the engineering on that site plan. I you know, the difference is a ten versus a fifteen foot buffer. It also appears from the

1:31:40aerial to be heavily you know, heavily treed and vegetated. So certainly you're going to leave those down that boundary. I think you're going to have a substantial buffer whether it's ten or fifteen feet um So I mean Uh we would make a commitment to look at that in the site planning process and do it if possible. They have no reason not to do it if they don't lose required parking. uh spaces. And or building units. But it is heavily treed if you

1:32:10notice from the aerial here.

1:32:11Yeah, it definitely is.

1:32:13Mr. Chairman, we have some other options at the the site planning stage as well. We're talking about the plantings within the buffering are are what really create the buffer, not the width. So we can look at changing the width of that buffer if need be. if the plantings are what's gonna help. Um th we have some options, but we can look at that at the site plan stage.

1:32:31And we'll we're we're happy to maximize that aesthetic uh separation with Brad's too.

1:32:36And we do have to weigh that against the the obstructions that those types of things might create as well. Obviously this is intended to be a walkable area. um accessible and open, um not necessarily completely shaded from view from everything. So uh we we have to weigh a bunch of factors there. But the time to do that's at site plan once we have the engineering done and we can actually look and see what can and and shouldn't be done where those actual connections make sense versus trying to guess at this stage. Okay.

1:33:05David, can I just ask Joel one question? Joe on the I'm looking at your concept plan and that main entry road that comes off of fifty four and then connects to Blissfield. The If I'm reading the conditions approval right, it says it needs to be a public roadway, but That might be a little unusual for us to have a public roadway through this area.

1:33:30intent for that L area that I'm talking about

1:33:35I think our intent is as as I usually say we we will do that however the county wants it done. Uh I'm well aware and told the client that you for one typically don't like the county to own roads uh and that, you know, you want the developer to own it. I think the reason we put in the word public is it was important to PD D that even if it's privately owned that it be open to the public. I mean the county's concern is that that throughway

1:34:05has to be public access from that signal. down to Blissfield and across. So again, I mean that's up to Brad's team and and and the county whether you want us to actually if you want us to dedicate that as public right of way on the on the plat, we're happy to do it. If you don't want it dedicated as public right-of-way, we will still And I think that's why the zoning condition was drafted that way. We still have to make sure it's public. In other words, we've agreed with staff it will not be gated. I mean, even if it's

1:34:35Yeah, I mean I'm wondering if we maybe we should say short main public, maybe put in parentheses, which may be an easement or something. I I I'm

1:34:43That'd be fine.

1:34:45'Cause looking at your concept plan, that's the first time I think I've seen the concept plan That looks like some high kind kind of high end improvements that

1:34:54we committed to Terry Terry and Amy and Commissioner Starkey that yeah, it's gonna be very high end. It's gonna have paver crossings and you know, it's going to be really dressed up to try to draw people and attention down through. It's certainly not the type of public roadway that the county would typically build or own. Um so yeah, if you want to put a parenthetical that it may be an easement, uh we just had to make the commitment that it would be open to the public.

1:35:23Yeah, I'm just I I'm not sure that we or you really want us maintaining. We do

1:35:28not respectfully uh want you to maintain that because you might not show up uh too often.

1:35:36So I I m so I think it probably needs to be an easement rather than fee.

1:35:42Yeah, I think we agree with that. I mean like I said, it's gonna have all kind of pedestrian friendly friendly traffic controls and paver crossings and landscaping to the hilt.

1:35:54Okay, well. If I could get a motion to modify condition sixteen to put after the word public put, which may be an easement.

1:36:01Before we do any motion, um If you don't if you unless you object, Joel, I would like to I I think there's one more question from the lady back there. Okay. Do you want to come forward and come forward or we can hear you please? And restate your name and address. Uh and we're s stepping in a little bit out of the routine here to try to give you more time, but

1:36:26Uh my name's Lynn Zablo. I live at [address removed]. I'm concerned about Blissfield because they have cut all those trees down before and started using it. The plumbers had only access to State Road 54. They put a gate in and after it got all approved and everything, they started using the gate. And I had to sit and monitor it and call code enforcement and they had to come out and stop traffic. If we could just stop traffic from coming down Blissfield Road, if they cut all the trees down. because Blissfield

1:36:56Road is not made for traffic. It's all limestone. And I'm just concerned that they're gonna come in, cut the trees down like they do on the weekend. and start using it. They've done it before.

1:37:08Okay, well I think he's gonna come up I think he's gonna come back up and restate

1:37:14That he doesn't have the permission to cut down all the trees, so

1:37:17Okay.

1:37:20It didn't

1:37:20stop before from cutting them.

1:37:24Yeah, because I don't want anybody to misinterpret Mr. Pitos's comments. There may be a day when when Blissfield is actually improved as an actual roadway and where the easy is a very important thing. where those trees would be cut down. So I don't want anybody to leave here thinking that The trees would never be cut down, but it likely would not happen until we actually build a real roadway there.

1:37:43I'll I'll commit again on the record that the the developer applicant for the Gaeta M Pud We'll not cut down any trees on Blissville and we'll not be improving Blissville because it's off site not our property and we can't. We're solely developing our parcel in the access to fifty-four. So we won't do it.

1:38:04And

1:38:05then don't have the legal right to do it.

1:38:07You said you were willing to stipulate that the no construction traffic if it does get developed in some point of the

1:38:13even if someone started sooner than we think east of us and started work there clearing that, we still will not have construction traffic coming through Blissville. We'll just come in right all fifty four. That was our plan.

1:38:26Okay. Thank you, Joe.

1:38:27Yeah,

1:38:27I mean if they're willing to commit to that, I don't think it hurts anything by just making that additional condition of approval that they'll floppy construction access coming from Right.

1:38:36So I think there's another

1:38:38one.

1:38:42Which is to modify condition sixteen after the word public to put in parentheses, which may be an easement.

1:38:49Okay.

1:38:50So do I hear a motion? So moved. So the two conditions are the one I just read and then you can see that. That no construction traffic will use Blitzfield Road. Correct.

1:38:59Yeah, that's the motion. Okay. Second. We have a motion

1:39:01and

1:39:02second.

1:39:02second.

1:39:04Just and

1:39:05that that they also that they modify their plans MPD plan and concept plan to show the North South trail connection to interlocking. Got that, Christy. Yes, yes.

1:39:22All right. With that. With that. Yeah. We still have the same motion. Same motion. Still second. And we still have the same second. All in favor?

1:39:32Opposed, like, sign. Okay, motion carries.

1:39:37Thank you.