Angelo's aggregate material conditional use amendment

2:41:12Okay, we'll reconvene the meeting. Uh this is the point at which the uh people in the neighborhood have a chance chance to come up and ask questions or make comments. Um the only we're everybody's limited to three minutes each, so the best thing to do is just Just try to focus on different things. Don't just say the same thing every time. So whoever would like to come up and speak, let us know if you've been sworn. Come on up,

2:41:43give us your name and address. And uh you've been sworn, sir.

2:41:48My name's Earl Sangatari. Um live on [address removed].

2:41:54Okay, and were you sworn in? Sir. Were you sworn in earlier? Yeah. Okay.

2:42:03Major.

2:42:11And that's something we have to receive.

2:42:15What

2:42:15do you want?

2:42:24Yeah, Our individual culture.

2:42:26Okay.

2:42:39So the particular picture right here was taken at um

2:42:47Yeah, 125 feet elevation. This one. All right, go to the next one. There could be a couple of the same ones.

2:42:55Okay.

2:42:58Yeah. Or do you need to right? go ahead and turn the dev button right there?

2:43:05That button right there. Yeah.

2:43:14All right, this particular picture here. No, no, I'm I'm sorry, the this one was taken at the 125 feet elevation. You can see all the trucks. And right now, um, when I met with Mr Armstrong here, they was on the south end Right now they're dumping on the north end. and I'm on the south side and I can still, you know, see all the the dumping and stuff.

2:43:46This one here is what

2:43:50They took too many for me.

2:43:55Is it going? All right, d yeah, this picture here is at a hundred and seventeen feet. um elevation um just a little over about thirteen hundred feet from the dump site and you can Surely see that you're looking right over their little barm or their trees. You know, without a bit of problem. Where's where's that picture taken from,

2:44:23Mr. Singletary?

2:44:24Just on Singletary Road.

2:44:28Okay.

2:44:33I think my photographer was charged me by the picture.

2:44:40This here picture is on the south end now. Um, I mean on the north end where they're dumping right now. That picture was taken there at 105. a hundred and five foot elevation which I mean you can you know my My biggest point is that

2:45:02They want to go to 320. The highest point in Pasco County is on Clay Hill, which is 301 feet. The Pretty soon when they get to 320, everybody in Dade City be able to see this. Matter of fact, just so happened this morning, I was in a hayfield in between 35A, the Old Lakeland Road, and 301, just um, I was just east of the Publix, and I can already see the landfill.

2:45:33You can. And as far as them covering the garbage every day, they do not cover it every day. Maybe once a week, maybe less than that.

2:45:46You need to speak in the microphone. Sir. You just need to speak in the microphone because we gotta keep a rec record of it.

2:45:52They they do not cover it every day. That there's probably three days worth right there, and it hasn't been covered yet. Um, but just my point is, why do we wanna let this landfill run the view for everybody on the west of Dayton City with all the big tall hills and stuff, you'll be able to see it from anywhere you will be.

2:46:18That's it for me. I don't take long.

2:46:38Okay.

2:46:42Okay, who would like to be next?

2:46:50Maybe it's this morning. No, no.

2:47:00Okay. And your

2:47:00name and

2:47:01address? My name is Bernard Wong. I live on [address removed]. Um everybody's just talking about how it's gonna look. And what it looks like right now. My concern is still, um one of the gentlemen told me that there is a clay bank built under the dump site that holds the garbage from seeping into the water. If they do elevate it, will they still Uh reinforce this bank late? That's my main concern. Okay. Will it pollute our waters?

2:47:31We'll get that answered for you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

2:47:37All right, here's the here's the next.

2:47:42Anybody else? Okay.

2:47:48Hi, Jim Aimer, [address removed]. Uh I'm from South Florida originally and I retired and I came up here. And we have garbage landfills about one exit off of uh 75 from me. You could see it from everywhere. The further back you go, the more you see it. Yeah, if you're right up close to the road and you plant trees, you're not gonna be able to see it. But there was one near San. Ample road we

2:48:18could see if you're driving up 95 near Fort Pierce, you see it. You see the birds all over. Now I was looking up some of the materials that are put in the landfill, and I'm not an expert, but I would be concerned about things like gypsum and stuff like that, whether the rain gets through the water and what happens to it as it disintegrates. Um or deteriorates. I'm sure some of these guys might be able to answer answer that question. But I know that it's also s cement and I would think you could

2:48:48recycle the cement. More than maybe put it in the landfill. And I'm also concerned because I know the thing that happened with Mosaic. And If you have a lot of weight and I s they say they're using the same footprint, so if they're using the same footprint, they're putting more weight on top of it. And if it seeps through You know, that's our water. That's all of our water. We're all drinking the same water and I don't know. I buy protos at the local stands,

2:49:19they say they It's from uh farms nearby. I don't know, it could be in the farm near the landfill. Maybe I really wouldn't want to buy that produce. Anyway, that's all I have to say. Thank you.

2:49:28All right, thank you.

2:49:37Welcome.

2:49:38I I was not sworn, I was late, sorry.

2:49:40Oh okay. Now the late one.

2:49:48Uh good afternoon. My name is Melissa Stoll. I live at [address removed], which is a private road dirt driveway. I am to the north of Angelos. Unfortunately, Calmain Farms went in next door to me and they're my neighbor in between the dump. The conditional use uh policy that they have claims that it will not increase the traffic on Enterprise

2:50:18Road. The traffic on Enterprise Road has increased more than one hundred percent. I encourage each and every one of you To go park in the cemetery and watch the parade of trucks that come up and down there. There's been at least two if not fatal, very um serious accidents at the intersection of 35A Old Lakeland Highway and uh Enterprise Road. Um I the original dump was there. My family has owned this property since 1985 when

2:50:49the original dump was active. There are several noxious smells that come, not from the original town dump, which I understand is vented for the methane gas, but I came home on I don't remember the date now, but uh I read an email when we had the previous um conditional use meeting. Um and the smell was coming from right outside of the gate to Angelo's dump. I could not drive

2:51:19down Duck Lake Canal Road because of the weather had been so bad and they had not grated it. So you could, you know, get down the road without tearing your car up and we proceeded from Enterprise Road to Otten Road. I had to stop on Otton Road where the vents are for the methane for the original town dump to roll down the window so I could breathe because I couldn't breathe. It was such a sulfuric Smell was overwhelming. Um Again, the trash along the road. She's saying that they'll start picking that up. But

2:51:49there's been a tire sitting on the road since we had the last. Planning commission meeting that has not been picked up. Um I uh understand that they need like the the uh people before you were s you said, you know, we uh you understand the need for growth and all that, but if they already have that original footprint I don't understand why they need the additional hundred feet. Three hundred and twenty feet is approximately an eleven story

2:52:20building. You can't tell me standing on Duck Lake Canal Road. You won't see that. You can't tell me driving down 301 to historic downtown Dade City. You won't see an eleven story building standing out there. I encourage you to go climb the observation tower at With Lakese State Park on Otton Road. You can definitely see the landfill from there. So I would appreciate it if you would not approve this. Thank you for your time.

2:52:46Okay, thank you.

2:52:49Anyone else?

2:52:53Okay. Uh if not, you wanna respond to the questions and concerns?

2:52:59Sure. What I'd like to do is have uh John Arnold, uh the project engineer, talk talk to the question about the clay layer materials, recycling cement, and weight.

2:53:08Here's the fellow that's coming back in to ask that question.

2:53:14Good afternoon. John Arnold, [address removed], and I was sworn in earlier. With regard to the geotechnical aspect or the foundation support for all of the cells. Currently, we have to get permits and approvals from the Department of Environmental Protection, and that is a condition of our existing conditional use permit. So typically, what happens for the next cell

2:53:44that you're going to go into, you do soil borings and you document to the DEP the subsurface conditions. and then a geotechnical engineer analyzes What the loads would be that would be placed on that foundation, just like a building. and you design the bottom liner system specifically for the site specific geology. It's a very detailed and involved process. So if we were able to go higher, the department

2:54:14would require us to do the investigation and the analysis to prove that the conditions are sufficient for those loads. What we currently have at our site is a three-foot clay barrier layer. Which has a permeability. which is a measurement of how much water can go through it of 10 to the minus 8 centimeters per second. Sand is about ten to the minus three centimeters per second. What it means is it's very impermeable and it would take literally hundreds

2:54:44of years for one inch of water to be able to migrate through that three feet of clay. Um Since we've opened operations, we monitor both for gas at the perimeter of the landfill as well as groundwater. And that's done by a third-party consultant and those results are submitted to both the county as well as the DEP. We have no impact to groundwater and there is no m gas migration

2:55:14from our site today.

2:55:18Where uh there's no gas migration. I'm just curious. The lady is before you said she had a strong sulfur smell.

2:55:28Well we we are in an area um and and and I've been out here frequently where we have an existing organic uh class one landfill that's been closed. closed. And the state of the practice and design is when you put that cover cap over the old landfill. You go back in. and you drill holes down into the waste so that you can vent the gas and the gas has odors. And the reason that's done is to protect the stability of the cover system and to make sure gas doesn't

2:55:58migrate out through the landfill into adjacent structures. It could be a combination of that existing landfill. As well as the chicken farms. Um As we talked a earlier about a class three landfill, it's really construction materials and demo materials. Occasionally at the working face you'll get some material, maybe uh Dry wool that's wet. and it can put a temporary odor if you're in in the v vicinity of it. And the

2:56:29way that that's managed is you put soil cover on it. And that covers the odor.

2:56:35Okay, so uh what they're cla what they're alleging is that there hasn't been daily coverage of the soil. But

2:56:42Well, I would argue with Mr Singletary or I don't agree with him. That picture was in it it it wasn't too long ago. It was uh that's the working face of the landfill. And so you saw the truck backing up and we're pushing down to make the slope. and cover will be placed on that. To cover up the side slope. Sure.

2:57:05Okay. For how frequently?

2:57:08We will put it down daily. Um the current condition is weakly. But we have no problem daily.

2:57:15Current condition is weekly, it's a DEP permit condition. We have added a condition That says daily. So An enforceable condition that says daily. They're doing it daily. There's some debate whether they did or didn't, it's it's like now a condition of approval. On on traffic, um I'm just wanna We're not changing our day-to-day operations, so we are not increasing or having any additional traffic impact. Enterprise Road is paved. All the way from 35A to Aughton

2:57:45Road, it was paved by this project to the county standards. So um it's already paved. And with that, I do want Matt to come back up because we have the what can you see from where and and so I want him to to um Go over that 'cause I know he's given that quite a bit of thought.

2:58:03Okay. Hey Barbara, what's the current permit good proof yearwise? You don't remember I don't remember that. Twenty sixty three.

2:58:11Let me have John answer that.

2:58:13Oh sorry I shouldn't.

2:58:14That's okay.

2:58:15It's uh valid through September of twenty sixty one.

2:58:18Twenty sixty one right now, currently? Yes. And what's the capacity out there now?

2:58:23Oh it's Right around I'd say we view an additional forty million cubic yards.

2:58:32So you're at how what what elevation are you at now?

2:58:35The elevation of that truck that was right at elevation one sixty five.

2:58:40Okay. And you could in your right now you can go to two twenty two.

2:58:44Two twenty two

2:58:45twenty. Okay.

2:58:49And let me just ask uh what's the percentage left of your capacity, I guess?

2:58:59We have eighty percent left, do you got sixty percent left? What do you have left?

2:59:03Uh approximately seventy percent.

2:59:05Seventy percent left. Yeah. Okay.

2:59:09At at two twenty. Yes, that's correct. Just want to make sure I heard that right too. Yes.

2:59:15I'm okay. Jamie, anything? Not yet. Not yet.

2:59:23All All right, so uh the the questions come up um in in talking with folks, hey gosh, this can be the highest thing, highest hill, or highest place in in Pasco County, uh um when this is all done and said. into the future when it's covered and it's green and whether it has trees on it or not, it's gonna be the highest hill in the county. Elevation wise, uh I'm not gonna argue that point. That's that's true. It will be higher above sea level than the other places that we have in the county. Um whether or not you can see that from from some

2:59:53some point in the county I I haven't been to every nook and cranny looking for it. I can tell you I've driven on Enterprise Road over by 301 where it comes up on the hill, headed out that way, and that's kind of where that Burger King is on the corner there, and you head up and there's another field. I drove up as high as I could get, got out of the car, stood up on the trunk trying to look around and see what I could see. I couldn't see it from there. I I'm not gonna argue the point that someone could find a spot where you could be able to see

3:00:23this this area. But I think the point is Whether you can see it from a distance or not. Will you be able to tell that there's a significant difference between 200 feet, 220, and 320. And I would argue no. Unless you get out there with your laser surveying equipment and a drone or a satellite or some other tool like that. you will not humanly be able to tell the difference between 220 feet and 320 feet. Wherever you're

3:00:53standing, near, far, y you're not gonna be able to tell the difference. Um I I think that that's um really not an issue as far as what you can see or or whether it's the highest thing or not. In fact if you're up in air or space, it's all gonna look fairly flat. Um now if this was a tower or a building and it was up sticking out of the landscape I'm sure you'd see that. Your eye would pick up on that. It would be there, it would cast a shadow, you'd be able to tell that that was the highest thing around. But

3:01:23to have something that large at that distance at that scale, sloped as it will be, tapered off at the top as it will be. um and and grasped as it will be, I I don't realistically think that anyone would be able to tell the difference between 220 and 320. That's my opinion on on as far as the visual impact. I can't speak to the other things, but I I I know that you won't be able to see it. If there are any questions on that, I'd be happy to answer.

3:01:53Kind of a question but I'm not sure Matt can answer. Um my question is what was the reason why you didn't expand horizontally as opposed to vertically? Who can answer that

3:02:05question? Um I'll do a little bit on that as I talk to John about it and then I can probably let John uh talk to the rest of it. But I I from what I understand, one of the reasons that they didn't want to expend that footprint was uh because they did want to be a good neighbor in that regard and not encroach on the setbacks that they already established. I I think there was a a concern on the part of the applicant that by expanding outwards, uh getting closer to the neighbors, that that would be um a little bit more objectionable than trying

3:02:35to utilize the footprint that's there and and just add to it. Given the size of this, you could go a lot higher than 320. The DEP and those folks wouldn't have a problem with that. But we realistically said, gosh, we we really don't see a need to go beyond that. Um and we certainly don't uh wanna keep climbing and climbing up to make something that's this giant pyramid out there. Uh y by rounding it off at three twenty you've got You've got something that that blends in a little

3:03:05more.

3:03:07I would just add to that, Barbara Wilhite, that the client owns a thousand acres to the south. and that's Dan where mister Singletary lives. We have a pending application with the county right now to have an industrial project there. So the thought is that We would have a project that would would use that property for something that would produce and not extend an impact by increasing our f our footprint. So And because of the analyses that that Matt

3:03:37has done and seeing what that impact is between 220 and 320. That's the balance is, you know, y you already have that area in the footprint. You don't have to go and permit another area. We can use that property to the south. The property to the south is thousand acres on a rail line. Very unique piece of property. It's um the PEDC's looking at it. Um actually promote that property uh to see if we can get some kind of industrial user down there. So that's the the balance and that's what the owner has uh has brought

3:04:07forward.

3:04:10Hey Barbara, how much land do they have out there toll?

3:04:14This facility is just under five hundred acres, but they own a thousand acres of the south.

3:04:18Okay, so it's they have fifteen hundred total. Okay. And this was five hundred and forty something. I saw something.

3:04:22Yeah, I have the number. Yeah, it's somewhere around it. It's around five hundred.

3:04:31Okay. Are there any other questions from up here?

3:04:36Man, I'm just having a hard time swallowing. I'll be straight up with you in Pasco County and having something that tall. You know, and I've grown here too. I mean I see your visual stuff of it. I mean and uh We we use it, you know, I mean I'm in the construction business. I mean and I know we need to grow things too. But I mean I I I fight with that. I mean, I mean you know, there's still seventy percent capacity left. Um you know, I mean You know, I I I would not be

3:05:07uh honest if I didn't voice my opinion about that to everybody, you know, and how I feel about it. You know, I've lived here, I'm 60 years old, I've lived here for 50. So uh I picked oranges out on that property when I was a 15-year-old kid to make extra money to be able to drive a car, you know. So it's not that, it's just man, it just seems like a huge expansion to me. Um I'm not I'm not opposed to expansion. I'm not opposed to needing a new landfill or needing that area. I know that we do. You know, we have to have that, just like we need to have the power substations. But it

3:05:37just seems like a huge, huge, huge expansion to me. Um Um and we're already through two thousand sixty-one and we're only at seventy percent capacity. What's this put put us through? Twenty one fifty? I I don't know. You know what I mean? I'm just saying what I think. Guys on the board here, so I'm sure I'm not the only one that has an opinion.

3:05:59I I mean I'll I'll add, I mean, on the flip side of that argument, I mean the last obviously Barbara, I think you started with this.

3:06:10Why did they do a better job of planning? I mean they're trying to have foresight and and be good neighbors and do all those things that you know w we would have hoped the other people would have done. Um, you know I might have said this before, but you know Things happen where, you know, w the projected capacity is twenty sixty one or whatever it is, but I mean y you could have something like happen in the panhandle and a a storm come through and all of a sudden a big chunk of that capacity goes away. Um and y and you don't you don't pull a permit for

3:06:40something like this overnight. I mean it takes a long time and a lot of planning to um get through 'cause frankly, I mean, nobody wants it behind their house. Nobody wants it in their area. They don't want to look at it, even though it is, you know, class three waste. So I mean here I I I kind of commend them for the planning and and trying to stay within the footprint of their existing facility.

3:07:04Anyone else? Comments?

3:07:10Michael.

3:07:13I mean the the only thing I'll say is that th this is not the only place a land pill can go. I mean and yes it's it requires um probably a lot more hoops to go through, um, no doubt, but um it's not insurmountable and it it can be done and Um, you know, I think about the landfills that are along I-75 and you see the height of those, I mean you're gonna see this, you know, and it's gonna have a huge impact, this area. Um

3:07:44and just the fact of uh nearly doubling the size of it. Um I just don't think that that's the prudent way of going.

3:07:58Okay.

3:08:01Mm-hmm.

3:08:03I was thinking, which I often do, is is where if this is not approved, where will the trash go? I shouldn't say trash, construction debris go. Would it go on railroad cars up to up north or where would it go? If this is not approved. And it may sound twenty sixty one is not that far off, but it's just only forty three years away. So, as someone

3:08:34said it it does take a long time to get permits, especially if you get to go through the federal government to obtain and I think I heard someone mention that DPA or something.

3:08:44Yeah, it's actually this would be a state approvals. It's not a feder I don't believe there's any federal approvals. No federal approvals? Mr Arnold can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's all state.

3:08:54So That's the question I have is the value of approving it today so that in forty or fifty years down the road that it would be available and that planning, good planning could go into effect. So that's what I see. Uh otherwise the the debris, the construction debris has to go someplace.

3:09:17So and I hate to see it go into the oceans. I really do, but so that's that's why I tend

3:09:25Roberta? Roberto, do you have anything? No.

3:09:33Um

3:09:35Well it seems to be a sort of a wide range of opinion up here. Um I know I understand the trepidations. I understand the need. Um I guess my question to you would be, do you have any flexibility in terms of the level of the Of the new permit.

3:09:57You asked about the high?

3:10:03So we're so this is something I always get into with housing too. where we propose four hundred houses and then Somebody says, Well, what'd you do three hundred? And you do three hundred, but did it make a difference? Do you know, can you drive through a subdivision and see if it's four hundred houses or three hundred houses? If it's three twenty versus two ninety Will it make a difference? But will it hurt the capacity? I mean that's the answer. So I mean we've proposed something that will provide

3:10:33the capacity that's needed and an an existing landfill location.

3:10:39Okay. And there there is a reason why these things are, you know, capped out at a certain size, because they shouldn't just have unlimited ability to put stuff in there for a unlimited period of time. And I mean that's the reason why there's these approval processes that cite these things in other areas. There's there's other mechanisms in our our and our uh laws that allow uh places to go in the in other areas. So I don't know. I just I just

3:11:09personally think this it's enough for this this one and the um conditions that are currently on there now are not have not been met. You know, and that track record means a lot to me. is the fact that they agreed to doing certain things in the past and they hadn't they have not done it. Now the county hasn't enforced it and shame on the county for not doing that. But it's um The track record I I don't think is too good.

3:11:43You have any specific things you're thinking of, Mike?

3:11:45Well, I mean it you know, the two conditions that they haven't met i is that they would give right away to the road and they build a berm and they they did not do that. And

3:11:57To me that means a lot. It goes it goes to uh the credibility of the user.

3:12:07Okay. Anybody else?

3:12:12Chris? Comments?

3:12:17Well certainly I was biting my tongue but I can uh make a comment. So it might be a tie, Chris. Uh well if there is a tie I will be voting, so I can go ahead and explain if I get to that point. Uh I kinda agree with Mr. Hansel here. I see it. I see it's similar to um the previous item that you know part of planning and part of the growth of our county is we have to provide for capacity

3:12:47for for this kind of stuff and um You have an existing landfill here, and I get the fact that it's going to be a little higher. And yeah, I I can understand the problems with that, but same token, you're you're not having to go somewhere else. You're not going to impact some other place somewhere else. Um you're just expanding in their current footprint. And I think if

3:13:18it comes to me, I vote to approve it.

3:13:24Okay. Is there anything else from up here? Anybody?

3:13:28Let me ask a quick question. Mr. Cox brings up a good point. He said that the the in the past there have been some violations. Who enforces the uh the uh

3:13:41probably

3:13:42so so the

3:13:43the answer is it is the county that enforces violations of conditions Fortunately or unfortunately it's mostly a complaint based system. So um there's probably lots of violations that occur in the county that go unenforced, but until somebody files a complaint saying so if a neighbor had called and said they didn't put in the burn and I'm looking at garbage. then code enforcement would typically go out and say and cite them because they didn't put up their burn. I'm

3:14:14assuming, and then Ray can tell me if I'm wrong, then nobody files a complaint about the burn. Um the right-of-way typically wouldn't we wouldn't notice that their failure to do that unless we were going to improve that road and realize we didn't have the right-of-way. But so I don't know that a neighbor would notice their failure to comply with that. But in theory a neighbor should have noticed that they didn't build the berm and should have called code enforcement and said, hey, they didn't build the berm. Did that occur

3:14:44Ray or

3:14:49Uh David, no, we were not called about the berm. The only reason we noticed these things is because they came in for the amendment, because we didn't have staff basically on top of these projects.

3:15:04And uh you know I want to say it's not the I don't think it's the obligation of the citizens just to to be the police of it. It's the obligation of the applicant who said I would do this. And they didn't do it.

3:15:18I kind of have a different view. If I'm driving down the road and I'm doing twenty miles over the speed limit, Who's at fault? Me or the Sheriff's Department or law enforcement? So it's kind of like a catch twenty two there I think in some ways. Yeah, it's up to the

3:15:42company or the vendor or the corporation to take care of these problems. And they should, just like I should all all of us should obey the speed limit. So that's that's what I dwell in my mind when you talk about enforcement of these things is Shame on you, shame on me for going over the speed limit. So that's the way I I view this. So that's why I tend to to uh

3:16:10So yeah, let me you know let me say the other thing about enforcement that's somewhat difficult with a landfill and I would say in a mine as well. When it when there's a building going up and there's conditions that need to be met, typically staff will check before they issue the final certificate of occupancy for the building. And they will verify that all the conditions have been met before that certificate of occupancy has been issued. For a project like this, there's really no final trigger for staff to

3:16:40catch those kinds of things. And so I think I do think that in general enforcement's a little more difficult for staff when it comes to something like a mine. or a landfill than it is for a building. I'm not make trying to make excuses, I'm just saying that final trigger is not there like it would be in in a in a building type development.

3:16:59Mr. Chairman can I just add I know nobody wants to hear excuses 'cause if I make up an excuse to tell you, you know, the client's perspective then it sounds like an excuse. But let me just tell you a fact. Which is The conditions don't require The Berm that's along Enterprise and Otton where they are operating. they put a berm up there because that's where they're operating. So

3:17:23I just thought that was an important fact to know.

3:17:27Okay. Let me just make a quick comment that uh in my opinion is important. I kinda agree and that the the point that Mr. Girarde made in reference to where we are and we don't plan is for me really important. When I say this when we have just a recent sample of what happened in Panama City, Mexico Beach. And God forgive, but we are still a vulnerable area. And that is for me is really important. Maybe

3:17:57we have seventy porcin of capacity at this point, but if something happens around this area, we are going to we're not we're going to be in trouble. And where we are going to have that debris. Keep planning for me is think about those elements. So In my opinion I think The responsible way to proceed with this when it's allowed this type of business to increase the capacity, no because they need it right now. I think also in the business point of view,

3:18:27if they have seventy percent and they are doing this investment I it's a good sign for me to support that. You know, they still running a business with seventy porcent of capacity and they have the initiative to in uh invest uh to increase the capacity within without the need or the immediate need in short term. I think for the community in general, I understand they are People who live close to that, they don't like the idea, but we need to think about the entire area where we

3:18:57live and what is the impact these people can bring to us in case of something happen, you know a storm or so many situations that can happen in the where we live.

3:19:11Okay. I think the has everybody spoken? Anybody had anybody other do you have other comments?

3:19:18I just wanna say I'm not opposed to growth and expansion, you know, at all. I mean it's it's it's gonna happen and it's inevitable, but I just think that's an awful big one that we're requiring right now. I mean or requesting, but I mean um it's what I do, you know what I mean? I just had to voice my opinion. Uh You know, I don't wanna be on the top of the hoop hill and see another hill that's taller than the hoop hill. I mean so I'm just being honest on that stuff. You know, I'm I'm not a opposed of the growth and I know we're gonna need it down the highway, but we're good at two thousand sixty

3:19:48one now, now we're good at twenty two hundred. I I I you know, I'm just saying how I feel.

3:19:55All right. So do we have a motion in a second?

3:20:00I'll make the motion to approve uh With uh the conditions that the county has established.

3:20:07I second the motion. So

3:20:08does that include the modified conditions that were emailed to you and handed out today? Correct, the ones

3:20:13that are attached to the what we got today.

3:20:16Okay. Yes.

3:20:17Okay, we have a motion and a second. Do we have any further discussion on the motion?

3:20:24All in favor of the motion signified by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. Okay, we want a roll call?

3:20:37How was it, Nick?

3:20:40Mr. Copts?

3:20:41No. Mm, mm.

3:20:44Mr. Girardi?

3:20:45Aye.

3:20:47Mr. Council.

3:20:51Fires.

3:20:52Aye.

3:20:54Mr. Williams?

3:20:56I did not vote. Oh, at least not so far.

3:21:12Okay.

3:21:15No passes.

3:21:19All right.