PC six State Road 54 PO1 medical office rezoning

49:46Liam Devine, Planning and Economic Growth. Welcome back. You again. You're in the hot seat again. Um PC six. P-E-G 24-7792. In the name, and I'm gonna apologize now how I say this, but I'm gonna try my very best. Um Sha Sa-Chin K and Samali. She resta?

50:14It's a Euclidean zoning amendment. rezoning from AR1 agricultural residential district to PO1 Professional Office District. The future land use classification is Res 3 under the comprehensive plan and the applicant proposes to develop the property in conformance with the PO1 Professional Office District standards for development. The subject site is located on the south side of State Road 54, approximately 400 feet west of Meadowbrook.

50:40And the site is located in the South Market area and the urban service area. Here is our context map.

50:49Here is our zoomed in aerial.

50:55The surrounding future lane juice to the north, east, south and west is all res three.

51:01The surrounding zoning is AC and MPUD to the north, to the east is AR1, to the south is AR1, and to the west is AR1.

51:12The subject site is undeveloped on approximately point four one of an acre. Access to the property is from State Road fifty-four. Um and the subject site is located adjacent to an existing um State Road fifty-four trail to the north. And there are no deed restrictions with this rezoning. And this is coming with a recommendation for approval from Planning and Economic Growth Department. I'm here if you have any questions.

51:37Okay, any questions?

51:40All

51:41right. Is the applicant present?

51:46Is anyone here to object? Okay.

51:54Good afternoon. Uh Sandra Bradbury, North Side Engineering, which is three hundred South Belcher Road, Clearwater, Florida. Um the owner of the property would like to put a medical office facility on the site since it it's only access is on and off of State Road 54. the uh owner believes that this would be a perfect place to put it. There um is a Big easement behind the

52:24property going to the neighborhoods to the south of the property. I am here to answer any questions. Is there like

52:32a

52:32site

52:32plan for the medical office?

52:34We submitted two to staff to um let them review. either one of those choices would be amenable to the owner.

52:47Can you put

52:47this can you put the aerial up so we can see? Let me try to ask the question a different way. The site's point four one acres. And medical office is a heavy parking user, so I'm just trying to figure out how much medical office we're talking about by the time we provide the parking and the retention.

53:07It would be for a single doctor's office and uh with the site plan we did present We did show adequate parking for that square footage.

53:21I can pull out one of mine to if you guys have an aerial that you could

53:24Yeah.

53:26Maybe just a little bit. I don't care if I tip I don't want to review the site plan or see. I'm just trying to get an idea. Are we talking about a thousand square feet of medical office or

53:35I'm pulling the preap notes to see what was pre I think that's what You are speaking of the preamp notes. I'll I'll give give me about two minutes. Sure.

53:46Is that an access easement behind there? That's what I was wondering. What what kind of an easement is that for?

53:53And is that access easement a a improved? Right. I can't tell. Is it paved?

53:59It's actually a drainage easement.

54:01It's not an access easement. So your access

54:05would come from fifty four.

54:11So is that a ditch?

54:13Yeah, it's a ditch.

54:17And the applicant was amenable to putting two thousand eight hundred square feet up to four thousand six hundred square feet onto the site. Okay.

54:35And how was it accessed?

54:37Off of State Road fifty four. Okay.

54:44Any other questions? No. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Thank you less. Hear what the uh questioner has to say.

54:55Yeah if you have questions come on up and

54:57introduce yourself and give us your address. Liam Devine, I just wanted to answer the question really quick. You asked how many parking spaces. It was 14 spaces. Um in the conceptual they provided with their pre-app, and it was one ADA including.

55:11Just trying to get an idea of the scale of this thing since it's a small lot, that's all.

55:15So if we could have your name and address, please.

55:18Thomas Cook, [address removed] Uh Vince Born as well. Uh, I just wanted to stand and and voice my opposition to Uh

55:30Yeah. The uh this lot is residential in a residential neighborhood, zoned in a residential neighborhood. We've lived there for quite some time, have been residents in Pasco County for quite some time. It is a vacant lot and we've always had been an understanding that we may have neighbors there. But not a office, uh the property can be rezoned and then sold. Uh once it's resolved and sold, we don't know what's gonna go there. It could be a medical office, it could be an engineer, it could be a methodome clinic. Uh that drainage easement is a small ditch which is

56:00dry eighty percent of the year. Uh I'm the immediate neighbor. Adjacent to that. Uh my kids play in the yard. We have no issues within our neighborhood. Uh and I don't have any issues with our neighbors. I'm not opposed to having something there. I just ask that we not have commercialized buildings within our neighborhood. There's no uh No buffer. of of a there's no wall. I mean typically when you have a a neighborhood that's built and adjacent to uh commercially or

56:30or professional office spaces there there's a separation and not just a a two foot lull that flows water when it rains. Um Those are my primary W which properties you mine is the immediate one to the south.

56:45Okay. And then Kevin. [address removed] And has staff shown you the site plan?

56:54I have seen it from another neighbor.

56:57Does the site plan, the conceptual plan include buffers?

57:01No. It was just conceptual.

57:05Okay. I d I the only problem I have is I I just can't quite conceive of somebody wanting to build a home on State Road fifty four. I understand that.

57:14I do understand that.

57:15It seems to me that if you don't

57:23I would say uh th this property is also to the east of S Meadowbrook, not west, and that's semantical. But if you look to the Uh actual east three hundred feet there are residential homes that are on on State Road fifty four that are a part of the same community.

57:42I assume they've been there for quite some time. They have been. I'll do that. And I'm not sure if you're not going to be

57:47four is probably two lanes back.

57:51I'm not I'm not sure. Listen, I understand and I I get it that they they're I understand you're f I understand rezoning the property there may be some other you know financial benefits and wins to that position is not into that.

58:04If if this property were rezoned for office

58:11How is that gonna affect how do you think that's gonna affect you? I

58:15I I think it depends on what kind of office.

58:17Well as you said it's a doctor's office, a medical office.

58:19It would be rezoned and and proposed as to be a medical office, but could be sold as well. It could be a methadone clinic, it does could be anything. I'm I'm just saying my my issue is then the in in the in the separation. between the residential community and and the office space is my primary concern.

58:37Is there anything Well I'll I'm gonna ask staff when you're done, but I mean Is there any kind of Protection. Buffering screening that would Assuage your concerns?

58:55I I mean if I couldn't have a neighbor, which would be my ultimate I'd rather have a neighbor than an office. But if I were to have to pick, I would ask that something be contingent upon, you know, some kind of a wall or barrier as they do down roads and highways if you're gonna make that a commercial you know commercial area. There are certain

59:17buffering requirements with commercial construction, so that's why he's asking that landscape

59:21buffering is uh An eight uh the thirty six inch bush on an eighteen inch mound, uh which is is hardly a a buffer between a residential and commercial area. Right. Okay.

59:36Okay.

59:36Thank

59:36you.

59:37Any other questions?

59:39Okay, I have a question, follow-up question for staff. What would be the buffer required by code? Thank you.

59:47Hey uh Brad Tippman, uh Development Review Department. Uh it'd be a type B buffer. So that's a six foot screen included in that?

59:56So that's either a fence, a wall,

59:58or a berm.

1:00:01But

1:00:01six feet high.

1:00:02Collectively at least six feet high, correct.

1:00:06You know, remind the Planning Commission that Unless the applicant agrees to deed restrict this to something more stringent. You can't require them to do something more stranger. Mm-hmm.

1:00:20Right.

1:00:22Dicotter, yeah. Okay, yeah.

1:00:26I apologize that um you guys don't have the concept plan up. There is a retention pond behind the building. buffering us from the neighbors to the south um and of course we would comply with the restrictions of the type uh B buffering. If that could be zoomed out, you will see that there is just

1:00:50to the uh east of that Um Probably not even Севенд ярдж авиа. there is um offices on that same side of the road on State Road fifty four. Um that's the reason why we brought the idea of the medical office to the zoning commission is to make sure that We were following some other precedences that had been set in that area. And

1:01:21uh like I said, there is a retention pond to help buffer any noise of any sort and also we would be complying with the landscape type buffer as well. Type B papyrene.

1:01:39Okay. Any other responses you would like to give us?

1:01:45And that is it. Any other questions they are interested in m making it a medical office? Yeah.

1:01:51Okay. Just interesting how the property to the east and west of it is owned by the D O T. It's right of way property. Correct.

1:02:01Yeah. Both sides of the road. Both sides of the property is owned by F D O T.

1:02:10Well for for for my p purposes, my personal feelings is Uh uh I wouldn't vote to approve this unless there was a solid wall between this property and the residential property and I think that's a reasonable request. Uh I think it's not reasonable to say that you have to put a house on fifty four But it is reasonable to ask for substantial buffer and if a wall is part of that requirement I think we oughta require

1:02:40a solid wall.

1:02:45Right. But I think the county attorney needs to clear can you clarify how that has to happen, Dave?

1:02:51Yeah, if you are willing to agree to something more stringent than the code, we'd have to do a deed restriction. The property owner would have to We can't impose a condition on a Euclidean rezoning. So if if you're amenable to that, you'd have to agree to deed restrict the property to add that additional requirement. Your client's willing to do.

1:03:11I uh would believe so. My only concern is with there being a ditch behind there, that wall could very easily restrict if there was flooding from that ditch being able to three inch, yeah. Branch wherever it needs to and um Uh obviously we would keep our stormwater on site. But with the drainage of that ditch, I don't we don't know where it would be considering

1:03:41to go

1:03:48And All I'm saying is We can do what we want to as an org as a group. But I won't support it without a wall. So

1:03:56if that is I would I mean I would tell you that they can turn concrete blocks sideways under a wall every certain spacings to allow water to pass through. That that's not uncommon Or put notches in the bottom of the wall or whatever, if that's actually a problem.

1:04:14Can I can I ask Liam a question?

1:04:16Yes.

1:04:17Um Liam, the there was a pro there was a rezoning that came to the board very recently, I think. A couple of years ago. Where it started as commercial, same neighborhood. The board denied commercial and basically said they would only approve office. I think it's the one referenced in nine C of your agenda of our agenda. Um So there's a precedent for approving office in this area. My question is Was any additional buffering required for that one? I I don't I'm asking, I don't remember.

1:04:48I can't recall off the top of my head, but if you give me a second I could pull it up and and confirm that.

1:04:54Because that's the one I don't know if the Planning Commission remembers, but when it was Proposed for commercial we had a packed room. Um The board denied the commercial request. And then when they switched the request to office, we had lit little to no opposition. Right.

1:05:13I understand the the gentleman's concerns. I'm just letting you know that there is a precedent the board has decided that office the is the appropriate use for this area. Not commercial. I agree.

1:05:25To answer that question, there's no deed restriction attached to that rezoning. From seven five one six.

1:05:34Thank you.

1:05:37Okay, give me a second.

1:05:39It was There's

1:05:41Maybe maybe it just wasn't finding pack number two. Give me a second.

1:06:20While they're looking it up, if you most definitely re require the six foot wall, we will ask the um Client to amen to that, but we would prefer a six foot privacy fence. They're a little bit easier to maintain and repair.

1:07:05Still working on it?

1:07:07No, we have the answer. So there isn't there wasn't a specific deed restriction regarding um landscaping and buffering. There was a deed restriction that basically limited the building height to a t two stories maximum on that one.

1:07:19Gotcha.

1:07:24All right. I think we varied our concerns.

1:07:29Isn't there

1:07:30a motion? Yeah, I'd

1:07:31make a motion. And I and I'm in agreement with you, Mr. Gray. That I think the least they could do is agree to construct a wall and it sounds like they're not sure if they want to agree to that today or not, so what I'd do is move to continue them till we're back here in Newport Ritchie again to so that they can have time to decide.

1:07:53We would agree to the six foot wall. We just would prefer to do the privacy fence instead.

1:08:01Okay. Is that you'd like to amend your motion or Okay. If you're not going to be able to do If the applicant

1:08:10point blank, I need you to Because this is a voluntary deed restriction. All right. So are you willing to deed restrict the property to to require a wall?

1:08:18Yes.

1:08:20And is that wall just on the south?

1:08:26I I would hope that it would just be on the south side. Um like you said, DOT owns the other two And at some point in time they might concern, yeah. Become available for sale and if our client purchased it, then they'd have to come back before you to ask to have one of those two walls torn down in order to

1:08:45Okay. So I'm going to withdraw my motion and then I'm going to ask you one more question. Yes,

1:08:50sir.

1:08:51So the D O T owns the property to the East. And west. East and west. And if they ever made an offer to purchase your property?

1:09:00Have they? No.

1:09:02That's That's what I'm struggling with is it's just a weird donut hole of property that

1:09:09Yeah, but I think that's a good thing.

1:09:10And as you can see, DOT doesn't use DOT doesn't use both of those properties. There's one of them that is Um

1:09:21Pretty original vegetation on it compared to the other.

1:09:26Yeah it's just weird how from a planning perspective it's Well, I whatever. Yeah. Okay.

1:09:33I would make another motion to approve Subject to the applicant agreeing to the deed restriction to construct a six foot masonry wall to buffer the neighbor. On the south side only? On the south side, yes.

1:09:49I have a second. Any further discussion? Not all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign. Okay. Done.

1:10:02Excuse me, Chairman. Can I get a little clarification on that from my team when it comes to review? Is that the six foot screen within the type B buffer as a six foot wall or only a six foot wall?

1:10:18The other buffer requirements too, but the screen has to be a six foot wall. Okay, thank you.

1:10:24Well of course that's for the board to decide, but yes.

1:10:30Okay.