Legislative session and Live Local update

4:24:43Now quickly, Ralph Lair. I want you up front. Yeah. I hate that you're last, but since you did wait.

4:24:55Ha ha ha ha.

4:24:56And then run out of here.

4:24:59Give us a give us a little upbeat about the weather in Tallahassee, I guess.

4:25:04Well it it's passed through. It was a a really bad day up in the panhandle. Uh Ralph Lair, Intergovernmental Affairs Officer. I just wanted to briefly you know, session just started today. They're uh I'm watching committee meetings back in the back there. Uh we have the uh Live Local Bill that went up today. David Goldstein has gone before the committee. He did speak with the president's office with our concerns. Yeah. We still haven't gotten on the same page yet. So there uh the bill's

4:25:34moving forward without uh the adr addressing the issues of our concern. We still have two outstanding concerns. We we like the uh the glitch bill they uh presented. It removes industrial and does a few other items. We're trying to put in mixed use on our commercial. property which they're you know if we can give get some language that they are comfortable with uh we can move forward with that. Um so hopefully we can do that before

4:26:05a snack stop or before it hits the floor. Um they don't want to address um this year anything dealing with uh the tax exemption. About the hundred

4:26:18and twenty percent AMI. Not

4:26:19a surprise.

4:26:19That's market rate.

4:26:20Yeah, and and and and they have a hard time discussing yeah, we had that they had the discussion this afternoon. Uh I'd have that follow up and he used an example where based on the on the calculation in the AMI Um, this development is gonna charge two thousand dollars, which is actually sixty five dollars just less of what their market price is. And they're sh and their argument back was, Well, the property appraiser, you know, could deny them and it's like, No, you tell me how that's how they can deny them. So so

4:26:50that's why I said they're they're they're they're they're batting it back and forth, but we've got uh David up there and he's working really hard on this, so Uh hopefully he'll come back and and uh maybe we can figure out a way that they'll uh they might at least address the uh the commercial.

4:27:05That they won't address the commercial, only industrials?

4:27:07Only industrials removed. Right now they are not uh gonna remove the commercial or or at least allow us to put in mixed use.

4:27:18They're a way to add in there. You may know this.

4:27:23Well we have two apartments existing apartments in Trinity Y'all may or may not know this. They're built. These existing apartments are applying and they submitted to the county to become live local projects. Yeah, this is not okay. So here's what we're gonna lose in I have a lorem. W which ones are they? Uh it is

4:27:51they are the gallery at Trinity and Tapestry Cypress Creek. So they've applied to become Live Local Projects. So they essentially pay they want a $768,000 a year tax exemption while charging over $2,000 a month for rent for a two-bedroom. The companies from California And we're gonna lose We're gonna lose Carbal. Let's count it on the

4:28:21Bayonet Point.

4:28:21Close to eight hundred thousand dollars a year in ad valoreman. And from

4:28:24each one?

4:28:25That would be I would I imagine that's between both the school board and and the general fund. So

4:28:29we lose that.

4:28:38Or these out of state companies. It does not benefit our resident. No, we stay the course on our lawsuit.

4:28:46Stay the course.

4:28:51And I think that's the the the plan is we still have to move forward with what you all decided um previously. That's wrong.

4:29:05These existing active multifamily units built residents in them.

4:29:11are trying to Why did they change to change course and apply to the

4:29:17So as we move forward and we wait and and hopefully, you know, uh like I said, it probably is not gonna happen this year. Um no uh take note that that cities and uh counties around the state are looking at what we're doing and have reached out, uh whether it be the letters, uh which I gave you a copy of our letter that went. Today the uh Tri-County letter finally went out. Um so that that's headed up to Tallahassee uh and should have been hand delivered as well today after session started. So you're

4:29:48seeing the cities and counties looking to us and you know why we've taken the lead and uh and and and probably will follow suit.

4:29:56Well with this n new knowledge, you know, and the administrator had told me this. I didn't know we had anyone going through it. They're gonna do that in other counties too. Yeah. Correct. They're gonna start their feeling.

4:30:09Yeah.

4:30:10Yeah, I'm I'm told by Mr. Goldstein that that example actually caught the attention of of the Senate President, so was a little surprised by by that. So I I I think there's uh maybe an unintended consequence move there. But you know, that's just conjecture. At this point I you know I did alert uh Hillsborough and Penlis County of of of the reading schedule for the glitch bill and so hopefully they'll they'll join us in you know in those discussions. But I'm very happy that uh Attorney Goldstein was able to go up and speak on behalf of the County Administrator.

4:30:40At least it gives good discussion. They were having good discussion this uh day and I think they they they realize it and see that um you know changes need to be made the reason why I think they moved forward so quickly and and actually after being told by FAC and and and different groups they want to touch it this year the military bases and the airports were what really they had They said we have to go in and and and fix that. The president realized that. And then she agreed then to do the uh the industrial

4:31:11as well once it was you know brought out to her and explained to her why it was not necessary to have that in there. But that being said, there's other things. It's gonna be another busy year. Um just the deadline for bills to be filed was at the end of last week, uh Thursday and Friday along with We had three hundred bills in it. So now I've been going through and seeing how many of those impact us. Uh I think today alone twenty that are gonna impact the uh local government and county. So it's just gonna be another busy session uh that

4:31:41we have. Uh we have our Priorities that finally got printed up.

4:31:46Do we have them?

4:31:47Yeah, I gave you one copy. I I know you you're going up but what I uh that's the other thing I wanted to talk about.

4:31:52Yeah.

4:31:53Uh Commissioner Starkey, Commissioner Mariano, your plan is Wednesday you will be going up for FAC, is that correct?

4:32:00Leaving right after the um workshop next week. Um I can.

4:32:05I didn't know if you were attending that uh Wednesday or not. We are all going up on the twenty fourth the following Wednesday. Um so

4:32:12are you going are you going up next for a fact?

4:32:15Um I will if we're gonna go push this.

4:32:18Yeah, I mean so that's what I want to talk to him about and what what my point is is I have some

4:32:24that I'm gonna present to you. I'll I'll I'll come and talk to you. I'll give you extras of uh copies of these I'll be over tomorrow. Um and then we have another issue that we would like you to talk with our our delegation about and that is the uh tourism development taxes. There have been m multiple bills filed that wanna try to go in there and raid the funds.

4:32:45Yeah.

4:32:46Bad idea. We need to educate our delegation. I think w I wanna really want you to focus on that when you go up on on Wednesday.

4:32:53Will David go be going back up with us?

4:32:55He will be going up but not f uh not next week. He'll be going up probably uh he might be going up next week if the committee uh second committee hears uh the Live Local Bill.

4:33:05Because I would like us to update FAC at our, you know, the morning meetings that we ha the the the the kickoff and

4:33:13Yeah, fact's one thing. I you know, I didn't wanna I wasn't planning on setting up meetings on there. I don't know if he's really b if he's busy where he could do that. And I don't know if FAC will give you the opportunity to speak. It was like pulling teeth to let uh let us speak the last meeting, uh, to talk about Live Local Death. We didn't want to talk about it. So let me talk let me let me uh check on that, see if that's possible. Let's give a call in.

4:33:37Um and uh do we wanna go to D E P Jack? I mean we need to talk about these things, sorry, for a second. I I mean are there other agencies that we wanna stop in at?

4:33:46Well, you know At the previous meeting we allowed two million dollars for Newport Richard to subduct the sewer. I'm looking at what they've asked for. If there's no subconsor on their list, FGA FGA has one. Yeah. So I think that's a good question. That was the one FGA put in last year.

4:34:02We gotta push that.

4:34:03So I mean they should be they should be asking for that. I want to kinda bring it back.

4:34:06I will help lobby for the FGA.

4:34:08Yeah, I I think I have an email related to that that I received over the week.

4:34:13So so s since you brought it up, these have are all the appropriations requests that have been and filed that impact our county, that include city, nonprofits, uh different groups, um, and then ours as well. Um so some of them don't have uh

4:34:33Both house and Senate sponsors. The sheriff

4:34:35wants another center. He's got first then we've got the um The one with the missing and exploited children and now we want a emotional health center.

4:34:48We're aware of that one. We've discussed that one.

4:34:51know just wanna make sure as we build out those buildings that were And I've talked to him about this, making sure we're building a campus that is well built and well laid out.

4:35:06Um so back to so so again the plan

4:35:10Where does the money come to put these to fun to staff this?

4:35:16That would be the

4:35:17sheriff's office.

4:35:20There you go.

4:35:23Well

4:35:23yeah.

4:35:25So I'll bring this in for a Laney by just saying so the other uh item that I I did put out and I gave you the wrong one, but I did send it to you electronically. Um there's another group going up like they did last year, the greater uh Pasco Chamber of Commerce. Uh they're going up February thirteenth, twenty twenty four. Again, I gave you they had sent me last year's invitation and I gave you the wrong one. Uh but I did send the electronic. So that's a third date that we could go up and take a bite of the apple on that would be

4:35:55a one day trip. We can discuss that down the line. I'll get with you all individually on that and see if you want to go.

4:36:01I'll be at at NACO.

4:36:03And that is the same time as NATO. That is correct.

4:36:06Well. When when when we talked about all this la last year and said we were gonna do it a little differently. I thought we were gonna work with our chambers and and and and get a unified front for how important these were and I don't think we ever did that. As

4:36:23far as

4:36:25That's how Citrus County does it and if you look at what Citrus brings home, remember we talked with Sean about that, that that the whole community supports the effort and It's not just us. Like the school district should be pushing this as well, these sidewalk projects in I mean w we just I I think it helps us if we have broad County community support on what we're asking for. Yeah. And

4:36:56that's what I was told was a way to be successful. So

4:37:01We we had done joint work with the school board going up at the same time.

4:37:06Yeah, and I don't know if they're going. Are they going up at the same time?

4:37:10No, they have a different day. They go up for school board day when they go up.

4:37:13They used to go up with us.

4:37:14So so uh if you remember we uh we normally go up on FAC Day.

4:37:18Yeah.

4:37:19We agreed at the Tri-County Workshop to do it differently and go up with Pinealis and Hillsborough and go up uh on uh Tampa Bay Day, which is on the twenty-fourth. So and we are gonna be partaking in a reception at Evening, so we'll be doing our own meetings, you know, that day in the afternoon when we get up there, and then um the next morning on the 25th. So that's why we decided to go with the 24th. We don't have to go. The plan is that what

4:37:49was discussed at the workshop is that they hope that this can grow and we will then participate next year during the day. We can Bring up our chamber, our tourism development, uh we can take up Kumka Pai and all that stuff and and be a part of what already exists and has been going on for Hillsborough County. Uh but include Pasco and Pinellas if that's what you so choose to do. But this was just the first attempt to try to hold hands

4:38:20as three different counties from campaign.

4:38:34To not quote the county administrator with that seven hundred and sixty-eight thousand in most revenue a year, it's approximately fourteen sheriffs deputy. So when you say who's going to staff the project. It'd be nice to have the sheriff weigh in with us if we've local and say, hey look, this is this is truly has an impact on all schools. So just it's a simple invitation.

4:39:01Wow, we have a lot of developers asking for things.

4:39:05And that money would come to Pasco.

4:39:07Is that a new thing? Does every county have developers asking for money? They've

4:39:11always been asking.

4:39:12Um.

4:39:12And some have received.

4:39:15So some of those items that are not listed as Pasco County would directly come to the county uh at the end of the day. Those two developer projects are

4:39:24Where

4:39:25is

4:39:25the Pasco Pedestrian Overpass Bridge? What is that?

4:39:30That's property over at uh near the

4:39:34crossing over Ridge Road and

4:39:36Angelina Well.

4:39:36How would that jump the list that we have in the MPO?

4:39:40These these are private asks. These are private asks. This is on the develop the developer property.

4:39:51Good discussion. Okay.

4:39:54Anything else? Uh I think I'll begin with you as you sa uh for for next week to prepare you all for fat. Okay. So I'll talk to you the rest of the week, all right?

4:40:11So does anybody have a lot of things they want to talk about on old business?