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PDE-240442 second set minor LDC modifications

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Denise

All right, Mr. Chairman Planning Commission members, Denise Hernandez, Planning, Development and Em Economic Growth. As my colleagues bring up the PowerPoint presentation for this item, this is item PDE 240442. This is the second set of minor modifications to the Pasco County Land Development Code for 2024.

This is the seventy-fourth amendment to the land development code since the land development code was restated in 2012. These proposed amendments were presented to the horizontal roundtable and interested parties meeting yesterday, September 18, 2024. So we're gonna go through these uh amendments fairly quickly. So the first section that is being modified is Chapter 200, Decision Making Bodies and Officials, 204.1 Planning Commission. So this section, we're modifying it so

that if a Planning Commission member's term expires, or members shall remain on the Planning Commission until such time as a new appointment is made. Following section is 300 procedures, 304.2 point D public notice posted. Some of these changes are based on the Border County Commissioner's has asked us to modify our public notice signs the way the signs look so that the signs could look more like similar to those signs that are uh posted by Hillsborough County, where that the sign is is larger,

it's easier to read, it doesn't have handwriting on it, etc. I did note yesterday when I presented this to the Horizontal roundtable and interested parties meeting that um Elizabeth Blair and I will work on an effective date to this section because it probably doesn't make a lot of sense for this section because the sign the signs haven't been deployed yet per se. It would not make a lot of sense for this section to be effective shortly after the adoption, which is October 22nd. So that was noted and

stated to the horizontal roundtable. table and interested parties meeting. So as uh continuing on this section, it basically states that the sign should be posted in accordance with development manual. Currently that section specifically states that the sign is to be purchased by from Pasco County and we will no longer be selling signs. We will have uh policies and procedures uh directing our um Our stakeholders, our applicants, as to where they can purchase these signs from, and I have a

lot of clarity, and that will be in the development manual. Continuing on 305.2 B clarifies that the postage sign is to meet the specifications in development manual. 305.2 B talks about the neighborhood, the neighborhood meeting posting. So the Board of County Commissioners also wanted that the same type of signs, the same size of signs, uh to actually also be for the neighborhood meeting notice. This was all discussed during the conversation.

So that's another section that we're modifying. The next one is 307 continuance procedures. I don't know if you've uh driven down the road and seen how Hillsboro Signs has this red tape that says continued to. Well, the Board of County Commissioners wants for transparency, for noticing requirements for the public hearing signs to state that the item has been continued. That way the folks who drive through that area can see can continue on. Noticing as to when the actual uh public hearing

for the specific item will be held. Um the following sections, uh 310 and 311 are it just adds clarifying language to the section. Some of the changes in both three ten and three eleven talk about how um they they actually implement um 177 Florida statutes, which is Senate Bill eight twelve, so it allows uh folks to um submit some of this information prior to the the final plat. Additionally, there's some corrections in

the language. So um our uh transportation engineering department, TED, used to be called um um a different had a different name, so we modified the name throughout. Um there were some s some items stricken in three three ten, which should have been in three eleven, so they were taken out of three ten, placed into three eleven.

The uh following section is 403.5 construction plans that was noticed to be changed. There are no changes that are being made to that section. So just wanted to let you know about that. The next sections um have to do with Signs. So there are some clarifications in there that this came from our code compliance officers who had who were going out and taking a look at signs. I'm like, well, this sign kind of has some some characteristics of a snipe

sign. So we clarified what snipe signs are and what snipe signs are not. Additionally, um the section regarding temporary signs because of Reed versus Town of Gilbert, where we have to treat all signs the same way. We um and and ran into some concerns during the election season where there were several, so were more than one. temporary sign on a parcel. So during this during this time you are uh applicants are allowed to have or property owners are allowed to

have a total of five signs per parcel. And that is 30 days prior to an an election, and it has to be removed after that time. And additionally, it removes a prohibition of double face signs, so double face signs are allowed. Section 406.1.9 additional standards for signs in residential districts. We also added the allowance for a 10% architectural feature, which is not unlike what is allowed. in a commercial, this is for residential districts.

Um the s second section, uh the following section is ground signs in in um In commercial districts, we wanted to add the word architectural because it said ornamental, so it now says ornamental slash architectural.

Section 406.10 C2 signs wall signs. It removes the term sidewalls from the disallowance of projection for a for a wall sign. Following sig following section is the section on marquee canopy and awning signs. It c clarifies that signs above canopies are not considered roof signs. This is something that came to us from our building construction services central permitting team that they were just concerned that perhaps this was a roof sign and that was not the intent of the land development code. Moving

forward on that, this is a uh this next item, which is Chapter 1000 Miscellaneous Structure Regulations, 1003, Gates, Fences, and Walls. This came from the Board of County Commissioners in that we had they had requested a prohibition on chain link fences, but the Board of County Commissioners wanted that prohibition to be removed. So as long as the chain link, if the chain link fence is being placed, place on an industrial property. So as long as a chain link fence is vinyl coded, that they were fine with

that. So we made that modification to the land development code. The following section is non-conforming signs. This is something else that also came from our Board of County Commissioners. Uh the Board of County Commissioners basically said we We would like for the county to enter into agr into an agreement for the removal of a nonconforming sign, but allow the applicant some time to do that so that then they can have signage in the in the interim. And we did make those changes.

Um we do have a uh one of our stakeholders who's here and I thank them for their patience because they've been here quite some time. They had requested some, they they liked the changes that we had made, but so made additional suggestions, and we did make the we did take those suggestions into consideration and did change the code and included their suggestions. that it that information was sent to you uh yesterday and today and it was also sent to the clerk's office. Uh let's see. The next section

is the mobility fee section having to do with the uniform procedures and provisions. It clarifies the timing of the process for which the county must be informed. The development will be a community or subdivision that provides housing for persons who are 55 years of age and older. This came to us from our folks in building construction services. Apparently there was an instance that was very um it is very difficult to work through that they told us that there were going to be a um a 55 and

over after and then there was some refunds that had to be done and that was just very confusing. Using, so we modified the language in that section. And then finally, appendix A definitions, we're modifying the definitions of canopy sign, marquee sign, and awning sign. Additionally, we're modifying the definition of community residential home for it to be consistent with the state of Florida's definition in Florida statutes. And then we're also modifying the definition of veterinarian clinic as there was a scrivener's error in that definition. So we are asking

that you find these changes, these minor modifications to land development code consistent with the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. These items will be going to the Board of County Commissioners for first reading on October 8th. 2024 at 1:30 in Dade City and for adoption on October 2022. Uh twenty twenty twenty twenty second, sorry, twenty twenty four at one thirty in New Port Richey and I am here for any questions that you may have.

School District Representative

Okay. Any questions? I just have one. Denise, I was just looking at that thirteen oh two one A.

Denise

Yes.

School District Representative

And I don't know if I'm missing something, but it Goes sh the last line should be determined prior to And I don't see anything else. So it's like it stops there. Am I missing it or don't see it?

Denise

13021A, the county shall be informed at the preapplication meeting for the project that such community or subdivision is intended to provide housing for persons who are 55 years of age or older. Should this decision not be made prior to the preapplication? Meeting notice to the county of the intent to provide housing for persons who are fifty five years of age or older may occur at the time of an MPUD rezoning, but must be determined prior to okay, so it should say the submittal of the construction plan application. Okay.

I struck that by mistake. I will fix that.

School District Representative

Thank you.

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Denise

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a great catch. I apologize. That was my mistake. I I hit the the strike. It is bold and underlined and then stricken at the same time. So it is very confusing, yes. I agree with that. Thank you.

GreyChair

You're welcome. Okay. Questions? That's it. That's it. Yep. All right. Anyone from the audience? Questions or comments?

Mccare King

Good afternoon. My name is McCare King. I'm with the the office of iCard Merrill. Our office is located at 2033 Main Street, Suite 600, Sarasota, Florida, 34237. And I have been sworn. I'm here today representing Benderson 851 Trust and 95 FLRPT. LLC. They are the owners of Ridge Plaza, which is at 8601 Little Road. We're here today in support of the proposed amendment to LDC section 1203.4.

We want to thank staff and the county attorney's office for the work that they put in on this and for working with us. We feel that these We feel that these amendments better protect the rights of a private property owner specifically for multi-occupancy parcels, and we would urge you today to vote in approval for those amendments to that section 1203.4 of the LDC. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have, but I want to respect the rest of your time.

GreyChair

Anything? Very good. Thank you.

Mccare King

Thank you.

GreyChair

Is there anyone else?

If not, um I hear a motion.

Moody

I'll move approval of the uh Coordinates with uh the correction noted by Mr. Tanello. Finding it

Debbie Gunloggson

compatible

Moody

with comprehensive plan. Finding it compatible with a comprehensive plan. Second remind.

GreyChair

And So uh all in if all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, like signed. Very good.