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Starkey

B 46, we have proof of publication for the March 10th, 2026 Board of County Commissioners meeting. That publication appeared in the November 26, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times and was supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. It was continued to today.

Amy Heiler

Good afternoon. Amy Toll, Planning, Development and Economic Growth. Item P46 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a comprehensive plan text amendment to sub-area policy flu 7.1.63, North Pasco County. Resort and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for a repealer, severability, and an effective date. Staff is available for a presentation on this item.

Mariano

Did please present?

Hayat Mazilli

Hi, it's Ms. Ellie, Planning Development Economic Growth.

Okay. So the applicant is proposing a comprehensive plan text amendment to sub-area policy flu 7.1.63, North Pasco RV Resort. And the purpose of this amendment is to change the name of the PD to North Pasco Resort. So we're dropping the RV. To reduce the RV spaces from 550 to 350 and to allow for the development of a 250 four-story resort hotel.

The subject site is approximately 131.68 acres in size, and it is located along along I-75, east of Lake Iola Road and south of Blandson Road. There's a companion substantial modification, rezoning the petition to the existing North Pasco Resort MPUD.

This is a map showing the general location of the subject site. It is located in the North Market area within the east the northeast Pasco rural area.

This is a zoomed-in area of the location of the subject site. Like I mentioned, it is located along the I-75 interstate, east of Lake Ayola and south of Blancing Road.

This is a map showing the existing future land use classification as PD on the subject site. And it is surrounded by AGR, future land use classification, all around.

This slide outlines the proposed amendment to the existence of area policy. So the change includes reduction of the RV spaces from 550 to 350 and addition of a 250-room four-story resort hotel. The proposed development Will remain under one single ownership with no condominium platinum and no subdivision into three or more parcels. The policy um or the sub-area policy amendment continues to prohibit permanent residency

and limits and limits the length of stay to maintain um a transient stay. It also restricts the uses near Moody Lake to passive recreation. To preserve the environmental sensitive sensitivity of that area. And finally,

the amendment include a minimum setback of 274 feet from the hotel room or from the hotel resort. from Iola Lake Iola um Road right of way. Overall, these changes are intended to balance a reduced RV component with a more traditional resort lodging option, while of course maintaining compatibility with the surrounding agricultural land uses.

Next, we have the binding concept plan showing the overall layout of the development. And again, I'll save the details for William Vermilion, who will be working you through the details of this concept plan during his MPUD presentation.

There you go. The proposed Sext Amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies.

And with that, Planning Development Economic Growth recommends the board to accept public comment, adopt the proposed comprehensive plan text amendment, and ordinance by roll called vote.

Mariano

Okay. Any questions for Stuart at this point? Okay. So now we'll you know the z rezoning of the P fifty eight.

Starkey

P 58 we have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter on the November 26, 2025 edition of the St. Tampa Bay Times, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. That uh advertisement was for the meeting of January 6th, 2026, where it was continued to March 10th, 2026. was continued to today.

Planning and Development staff

Good afternoon. William Fromilian Planning Development Economic Growth, the Companion Master Plan Unit Development to the aforementioned Comprehensive Plan.

This is PDE twenty-six seventy-eight eighty-three, the substantial amendment to the North Pasco RV Resort. This this amendment does It does a couple different things. The the first is to reduce the RV spaces from the previously approved 550 to a total of 350 RV spaces to allow a hotel as an allowable use for 250 rooms and to amend the name from North Pasco RV

Resort to North Pasco Resort in Peawy. This is located in the north market area on the east side of Lake Iola Road on the west side of I-75.

Here is the location map.

The current zoning map reflecting M PD.

And the existing future land use map reflecting P D.

Here is the contextual map. There's one MPD within the one mile radius of the subject site, which is the Evans County Line Road, 80 MPUD, which was approved last year for that 100,000 square feet of commercial and 1.5. five million square feet of light industrial with the contingent platted townhomes and condominiums um that were stipulated for the time limit of twenty years.

This is the MPD master plan. And this is the binding concept plan showing all of the RV spaces as well as the entrance into the project. One of the things that changed at Planning Commission was Before I were to zoom in what what looks like a gatehouse for the entrance um essentially became an uh an optional sheriff's workstation to where the Pasco County Sheriffs in the area could use that workstation there at the uh the guard

house, which is it's denoted there as C, but it it's kinda tough to see.

This is the Lake Iola corridor buffer. This was a part of the original plan. Nothing's changing on this, but this really highlights the buffer requirement for the scenic highway that is Lake Iola from this resort MPD. You can see the large berm and landscaping there, which is a total of I believe that's 48 feet if I'm if I'm reading that correctly. And you see that there's a total of two hundred and seventy-four feet from the right-of-way um to the to the actual hotel that's being enabled and the substantial modification.

There is also a binding master landscape plan that was previously approved that's remaining unchanged this year.

This here um this indicates all the all the approved landscape. Nothing's changed in this and if we were to go to the the next slide, uh my my clicker was taken away. This here is showing all the different species of the yeah.

Starkey

And and if you think we can read that, uh

Planning and Development staff

Neither you nor I can read this. This is me trying to say none of the master landscaping is changing. This is just indicative of how thought out the landscaping is within this this resort style project. This is all the specific types of trees, not only that exterior buffer from Lake Iowa, but also internal between the R V spaces themselves and internal to the project. This here, oop. And there's the actual pictorial visual there of the

internal buffering that happens in between the spaces with its uh prescribed species of tree and shrub. Next slide. This shows some of the transportation improvements to Lake Iola Road. In this case as well as the the bike pedestrian facilities that were previously agreed to in 2022 along there on that that shoulder as you move north to Bayhead, this project does have all the applicable site access requirements to include

the left and right turn lanes in and out of the project, which is depicted here on the intersection exhibit. A couple things to note as well in the areas it pertains to the capital improvement program, the intersection of Lake Iowa and Blanton just to the north, which is on the south side of that Evans 80 project that I mentioned previously. was scheduled to begin construction, some intersection improvements there in 2026. It's in its design phase currently and it includes the realignment of that intersection as

well as lanes and stop control measures that the county went out and started started doing in 2026.

Next slide. Both PDE and the Planning Commission recommend approval of conditions for this project. I'm here for any further questions.

Mariano

Questions for staff?

Well let me ask you a question. Um With the Reduction I think is a good thing. But the one concern here is is there anything happening with the stage? I know we addressed it a long time ago. Can you talk about the stage where the music's gonna be played now it's gonna be protecting around around the properties?

Planning and Development staff

Absolutely. That was one of the nice things that the uh that buffer exhibit that showed the right-of-way cross-section showed the first thing it showed was the hotel's 200.

So really you're talking about the closest neighbor is even further than that on the other side of Lake Iowa. We also have all the applicable sounds and decibel regulations in the conditions of approval for this project, um in in uh in accordance with the Pasco County Sound Ordinance.

Mariano

Okay.

Oakley

Anyone else have questions? Just Rope just one question. Are they gonna do anything with uh County Road forty one and where Lake Ola hits, are the are they gonna make any improvements in that? connection. I know when we talked about it early on Uh F D O T did not require any improvements there.

Planning and Development staff

Yes, sir. To to my knowledge, the only improvements that were necessitated by the uh the impacts to uh Lake Iola Road there were the turn lanes in and out and those intersection improvements as well as what the county's handling to the north. All right, thank you.

Mariano

Yeah. All right, and to the applicant.

Barbara Wilhite

Good afternoon again. Barbara Wilheite, 6327, Grand Boulevard. For the applicant, I've had the pre pleasure of representing this project from the beginning when it was approved before. Um staff did an amazing job with their presentation. Really doesn't leave much for me to do, but I can read to you the condition that we wrote with regard to the outdoor entertainment area. We wrote a specific condition at MPUD condition.

Thirty. It's like G. Thirty G. Any outdoor entertainment area shall be limited to resort guests and restaurant bar patrons only. There should be no stage lighting that creates light spill or glare off site. The project will comply with the code of ordinance, Chapter 6, Division Two, regarding no noise ordinance. So it says who, how, and how m how loud in that condition that we wrote.

And with that we've I've got my team here, we'll see what the public comment is and be glad to uh address anything. Thank you.

Mariano

Any questions to the applicant? Okay. So this is a public hearing. So anyone want to speak to items P46 or P58?

Starkey

We have signed up Murray Peters.

Mariano

Yeah.

Planning and Development staff

Marie.

Mariano

Marie, just for you and everyone else. So on this item, you're gonna be able to speak for three minutes on forty-six and then also fifty-eight, or you can combine it together.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I'll just combine them together. Okay. Primarily on uh the lat the lattice later one, the earliest one. Um

On that ma'am

Starkey

ma'am, your name and address.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Three Peters [address removed].

Unidentified speakerVoice B

And have you been sworn for the reason?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I have been sworn, yes. Thank

Unidentified speakerVoice B

you. Thank you, ma'am.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

If you look at that picture. In the bottom left corner, all those pines are gone. The hurricane took 'em out. Had to be removed. which puts that house right there. You can see on the left bottom boundary. Completely unprotected from The music and the you know, that's That's something to consider. It's not that somebody's a quarter mile

down the road. They're a matter of feet from that property there. Um Also the um the other corner opposite those pines, those those trees are being removed. Or an electrical substation, you know. So there's no more sound barrier for that event center noise coming down uh the road. The other thing I want to point out is I

was very concerned to just see that the hotel residents can stay there for a year. That's not temporary housing. That's real close to to permanent and nothing was said about the interval between The first year D how long do you have to stay out before you can just move into a different unit and and have permanent living there? Um that's very concerning because it certainly adds

to the

Permanent traffic that we're gonna have in addition to everything else. And if you're looking at six hundred units And of those three hundred and fifty units are RVs.

They could you know, when you're coming off the interstate, it's a very short off ramp. It's a very short. Jump over County Road 31 to Lake Iola Road. It's already backing up from morning traffic trying to get to work and these are going to be cars or trucks pulling RVs, maybe not all of the 350, but a lot, and that's gonna back traffic possibly all the way up the interstate. And up the off ramp.

I don't think that's been looked at. When you think about when there's an event, a certain number of people are gonna get in there three or four days early. but on the day of the event or the day before the event, There's gonna be a lot of incoming traffic. W how are people on Johnson Road gonna get out? If if it's backed up. That's part of our concern. And then also I don't know if planning is aware of it. Um

Just north of this parcel is a severely under size culvert linking the two lakes, Moody to Middle.

Just in the last year, the owners of those people on the end of each culvert has opened it up and taken out trees and and brush and everything. And you can stand it On Lake Iola, you can see both lakes. So whatever they dump in The lake is going over to the other lake. And if there's a heavy rain year

And that lake's already full.

uh you're gonna have Lake Iola Road going underwater. No. Nobody's and I've not I've been to almost every meeting on this place and nobody has said anything about that little culvert. under Lake Iola Road connecting the two lakes. Which would then prevent us from getting out unless we go all the way down through Santa Ann to get out. So with that I would just uh Just wish you'd Do

some do something about the permanent, semi-permanent. Two hundred and fifty people. who could live in the hotel. I think that's that's not right for our area. No hotel needs to be a mile and a half off the interstate. It's crazy. Thank you very much.

Starkey

Thank you. Nancy Hazelwood.

Mariano

We have a motion to receive and file.

Yeager

Who wants them?

Mariano

Motion and second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

Nancy Hazelwood

Nancy Hayeswood, [address removed]. How are y'all today? Um

Starkey

Nancy, w just acknowledge you were sworn.

Nancy Hazelwood

Yes, sir.

So in the last episode of the RV FARP, no one had heard of the entertainment area, but brought it up. Um the paper you just received has what Ms. Willheit said, um that's from the application, and that's what I'm handing out to you. Um we actually she and I did actually have a uh talk about this um at the neighborhood

meeting And uh it makes me wonder about what stakeholders tell you sometimes and what they don't about things. Um

I I think that y'all reserve need to have a lot of respect because y'all deserve it. I know they y'all do a lot above and beyond

So uh

So we'll go on. I'm still asking that the county address the issue of the entertainment area. This is still northeast protected area and outdoor entertainment will have a direct impact on the area.

What's the other that's for six months of the year. I mean they've got to entertain 'em for six months. And if you add together the hotel and the R V park and not the rest of the places they can stay and the lodges and everything else, you could have over a thousand people there. Every day for whatever entertainment they're planning there. And that's what concerns me. It doesn't belong in the Northeast Rural Area Plan. You've got one

other big project. almost a mile away and that everything else is rural around there.

If you want to allow the entertainment, please put it inside. or make it unamplified. Either of those conditions would work out and help keep Noise. If you're thinking about the noise ordinance for the county, that doesn't work real well in the northeastern rural area. That was Addresses cities. It addresses the rest of the county. I would I would certainly like it if you all would finally put together

a noise ordinance in the northeast rural area that takes into account that we are rural.

So also when Ms. Hyatt was going over things, I saw them say that only things allowed would be passive recreation. If you consider this recreation, it's not gonna be a passive recreation use if you've got a thousand units of people there and all those units that they're staying in. My consideration for this is it needs a dab at work and I'm hoping y'all will Make

sure that we don't have noise going outside this area. Thank you.

Starkey

Kim, what?

Kim Witt

Hi, my name is Kim Witt. I've been sworn in. My address is [address removed]. I live off of Johnston Road, right down from the RV Park. The original plan for the RB did not include the 250-room hotel and then an entertainment area. The amount of water that would be pulled from the aquifer will be 79.252. Per room. That is about 20,000

gallons, if all of them were occupied.

Each RV consumes between fifty to a hundred gallons per water per day, depending on the occupancy.

And the pa the Pasco County is forcing us To have water restrictions.

Dates modified phase three extreme water shortage. Yet you guys allow the continued large developments, the lagoons, pools, etc. Massive water consumption, and again, I'm limited on what I can do on my property. Thank you.

Starkey

That's the last person signed up in advance.

Mariano

Yeah, I see someone approaching. No? Okay. Anyone see us speak to this? Please come forward.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

That's okay.

Starkey

Your name and address for the record and were you sworn?

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I was not storing.

Starkey

Okay. Go go ahead and your name and address.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Renda Scarborough, [address removed]

[address removed]

[address removed].

Mariano

Okay, sir. Anyone else who may speak that it didn't get sworn in? If

Starkey

you

Mariano

were you

Starkey

sworn, sir? Okay. Okay. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you will give in this matter is the truth, so happy God? Yes, sir. Thank you.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Okay. We all came to a meeting in twenty twenty. And reluctantly we had to accept that an RV park was going to be part of our community. But we were told it was good for our community. We were then told that the RV Park was now gonna be called a North Resort, Pasco Resort. And would have two hundred and fifty hotel rooms and three hundred and fifty RV spaces as well.

How can you assume that a hotel in a rural community on a two-lane road is not to bring chaos to our northeast rural overlay. At 85% occupancy just in the hotel, that would be 200 cars a day of people staying one night. Doubtfully, but possibly two nights. The developer has the right to answer as he has perfect this is our community. But who is going to stay in these rooms? We're fifty miles from

Disney World, SeaWorld, and Universal. twenty seven miles from Bush Gardens. No one is coming just to see our charming and wonderful Dade City. The people using this hotel will be traveling north or south and want a quick stock up stop off at the interstate. The average hotel room, I'm going back to her water usage, is 150 gallons of water per night. Obviously his goal is to be 100% occupancy, but even at 85%

occupancy, that's 212 rooms per night. That's 32,000 gallons per day, 222,000 gallons per week, and 11 million gallons used in one year. How much water can you continue to take from our community and from residents who are dependent on their wells? by using eleven million gallons a year on visitors passing through, not people living there. RVs and people in campers are used to living there, limiting their water.

Hotel users are not. I travel a lot, and I know that I am truly not worried about how long my shower is and how many times I flush the toilet. And when I leave, more water is used to clean and wash linens. RV hook up RVs hook up with a water hose and bring their own linens. It is obvious that the developer of this project has realized that the income produced from just an RV park doesn't match his needs, so he is wanting to build a hotel to make up the difference and make this now a resort,

not a family-friendly RV park. We ask that you not approve a hotel and stick to the original plan that was approved as an RV park for your residents, not just for a developer. Thank you.

Mariano

Is there anyone else please give me hand this gentleman? Otherwise we'll close public comment for insight here.

Brent Holder

Hey, good afternoon. My name is Brent Holder. My address is [address removed], and I have been sworn. Yeah, I came here today. I wasn't planning on speaking. I just came to listen. And when I was listening, several things were said that really struck me as being odd. We we've heard mention numerous times in this discussion about the Northeast Pasco overlay. And And the spirit of the Northeast Pasco overlay

can be boiled down into one term, and that's rural. And if you think about how this resort in a rural area is compatible, the two just don't go together. You are in a community that has two-lane roads, two-lane roads in, two-lane roads out. Everything around is two-lane roads. And the amount of people, uh, the amount of vehicles that

this is going to bring to the area, um definitely. definitely is is not compatible. You know when this uh when this project started um and and we did not have the hotel in it um It was I I have not talked to anybody, and I've talked to quite a few people, any residents in the area, any neighbors who are for this project. It seems to me there's obviously one group just for the project, and that would be the owners

or the people that are going to benefit, and that is not the residents. residents of this area.

I I heard uh speaking earlier that um it was mentioned that the four-story hotel um was going to be they they discussed compatibility with the surrounding rural area Think about the ludicracy of that statement. A four-story resort hotel and a rural area. Is that compatible? I think it is. Um and

we we heard about the buffer area, a buffer for a four-story resort hotel. uh trees, uh a berm that's ten feet tall, it it doesn't work. I implore the the uh commission here to to listen and to back the residents of this area. Thank you very much. Excuse

Starkey

me can I Can I get your address again?

Brent Holder

Sir.

Starkey

Sir? Can I have your address again? Sure, [address removed],

Brent Holder

[address removed]

Starkey

[address removed]. [address removed]. Okay. Thank you. Okay.

Mariano

Seeing no one else, we're gonna close public comment in here. Is there anyone online?

Starkey

No, sir.

Mariano

Okay. To the applicant.

Barbara Wilhite

Commissioner is this is a resort, it was always going to be a resort, actually under construction as we speak. Um We're just making a modification to reduce some RV spaces and add hotel rooms, same people just staying in different Place. Some people like to stay in their RV, like myself. Um and I'm those who, by the way. I have an R V Um and all the other who's that I see when I'm at the RV resorts are pretty good who's. Um

We went through compatibility, we actually had the author of the Northeast Pasco rural area come to you when this resort was approved and tell you how it was compatible with the Northeast Rural Area, the person who wrote it.

The um the con staff did make a statement regarding occupancy. There can be no permanent occupancy in our hotel rooms, in our RV spaces, our yurts, or our airstreams. We follow the county follows Florida statutes to determine what's permanent occupancy and what's transient. And it's you can't have in a 12-month period, you cannot have residents, you cannot have occupancy more than six months. And you have to have this is all state this is all state driven. You

have to give a guest register as required by Florida statutes 509.101. At the end of this day the R V shall be removed. Um or stored in any on-site storage facility. The um developer shall maintain those guest registers, RV license plate numbers. I could go on and on and on. almost a page of how that all works. I can tell you every detail about this resort has been looked at and spelled out and

there's there's long conditions that has to do with each one of these things.

We um Traffic was looked at when we when we had the resort uh approved.

This project was always gonna be resort and there was always gonna be music. There was always gonna be outdoor music by the pool, just like there's gonna be currently. Again, all we did was take people were gonna come in RVs. We added another way for them to enjoy the resort. Hotel rooms as opposed to the R V or the resort cottage. I Passive recreation that staff mentioned re was our limitation that we put on anything down by Moody Lake. You'll see on the binding concept plan how as we

get towards the lake the development drops off and all we can do is passive rest recreation. There's limitations on like kind of you can't have any motorized boats, a whole bunch of limitations in regard to Tamoody Lake. They're already in the the current approval.

The the berm and the trees on the Lake Iola scenic quarter buffer are substantial. We were thoughtful in where we placed the hotel. It's two hundred and seventy-four feet back from the Lake Iola right of way.

I think I hit each one of the c oh I d would say about the Sheriff's Substate, the Sheriff's area. Uh I did meet a a nice gentleman at the neighborhood meeting and he said, you know, Mrs. Will Hype, we want something that will be c relate to our community. And w I have an idea. I'm like, okay I You all know me. I love ideas. So he said Would you would your client go talk to the Sheriff's Department and see if if you put an area with a bathroom in a dedicated area within your resort, towards the front of your resort? Would they come and potentially

stop there and work so we'd have more police presence in our community. I can't make them come, but we're gonna build the place so that they can come. And that was came from a resident at the neighborhood meeting that came up with that. We followed through and committed to it. So thank you very much.

Starkey

Question

Mariano

Mr. Starkey. For you.

Starkey

Yeah. Mr.

Mariano

Starkey first.

Starkey

I have um two questions. I'm not sure I ever heard you say on site storage before. So where is that and what is that?

Barbara Wilhite

Like all RV pla RV resorts, there are times when you're not ready to take your R V out and you will store it. Um so there's a storage area on site.

Starkey

Um

Barbara Wilhite

trailers and and and the like

Starkey

where is the on-site stored?

Barbara Wilhite

The area where we could do on site storage is in that the corner. We gotta go back to the it's down here in the in the bottom corner.

People bring golf carts and they need trailers.

In the bottom, is there can she have a pointer? It's the but it goes to a V. It goes to a V? And you see the V towards the bottom there? That's where you would do any storage or trouble.

Starkey

That's like a field where Will it look like the one on Decubulus?

Barbara Wilhite

We have a We have a buffer on both sides of that. There's a corridor buffer on the west and then the the buffer to 75. So it's a buffered area.

Starkey

So what are those what are those little s uh grey buildings there?

Barbara Wilhite

I see no I see p pickleball courts and an open area and trees is what I see.

Starkey

No, there's like s There's build one, two, three, four, five, six.

There's six there's six buildings or something. Down in the corner.

Mariano

Maybe if you use the letters that are closest.

Mike Carballa

It's a labeled active recreation. So

Mariano

it's what?

Mike Carballa

It's labeled active recreation. I don't know what's in the soundplay. We're talking the green houses down there.

Starkey

No, that's where the pickleball courts are. I'm talking about right there. What are those?

Freeze? No. That's Something built. Because that Okay.

Um I do

I can't. What do you think that is?

Yeager

We're gonna find out.

Starkey

I think they told me once area.

Yeah, I was thinking that when you told me something on that before. So are you saying in that field is where you're gonna store RVs? We could, where we could.

Barbara Wilhite

And it's it's not just RVs, there's also trailers 'cause people bring their golf carts to a place like this and they have no place to put their trailer. So they'll temporarily temporarily store. This is not for It I know I can you cannot come here and rent this. You cannot this isn't for the month. This is just for guests and

Starkey

right. But I do have a concern of the aesthetics of that next to Lake Iola, so Those can look Very ugly. Like at the one on DQ.

Barbara Wilhite

And it's our it's i the that same buffer that we went over is the same buffer to the

Starkey

Okay, so it's how how big is the buffer? I I don't I don't recall ever seeing that as

Barbara Wilhite

it's a

Starkey

current it's

Barbara Wilhite

currently approved. It's nothing new. Um

make it really.

Starkey

So it's just gonna be on grass. You're gonna store them on grass?

Barbara Wilhite

Yes. All the all the storage places and all the R B reports that I go to, that's how they're stored. Yes. And it's again it's not for the public. It's just for guests.

Starkey

Okay.

Barbara Wilhite

Pay for that storage and you don't leave your things there for very much.

Starkey

I wanna I want to be sure that that is screened from the road because I don't think that'll look very nice.

Barbara Wilhite

Yes, the so the the quarter buffer is forty-eight uh feet wide, quarter tree buffer. Um You see the other specks on here they're pretty small, but let me see if I can pull them up. Ready?

Starkey

Yeah. Um Okay, my my other question is the hotel stays. We heard someone say you could stay there for a year.

Barbara Wilhite

Yeah, no, I just I read that condition.

Starkey

Yeah, I want to go over that. What am I talking about? No

Barbara Wilhite

permanent occupancy by state law permanent occupancy is more than six months. So someone can stay in the hotel for six months? Nobody can stay in any hotel for six months, but people don't. I didn't I know that. Right. That's state law. That's the difference between and it's and the state tracks that because it's a different tourist tax. If you're over six months then that you don't pay the tourist tax. And so the state has all these registers so they make sure that nobody's staying. So everybody that's there is paying the tourist tax and that's why the state tracks it so carefully. Um

Starkey

You know, I know my brother just finished uh driving For s for the last few years she's been gone seven months of the year in his R V. And there were times when I wanted to go visit him, especially when he was in Alaska. Sadly my work got in the way, but Um When he was in really cool places and I was gonna fly in, there was no place for me to stay because they conveniently didn't provide for any of us to stay in their R V with them. And so I would have to go get a hotel, which means I'd have to go get a car. and drive very far

away from where he was camping. So it was it was a real problem. I think it's convenient to have a hotel Um, you know, some of these may be snowbirds are come down who come down and they wanna have family visit 'em. And now they can Stay instead of When I did that with my parents, my kids had to camp outside in a tent in Maine. Um which they love, but So um

Okay, well those are my comments. Ms.

Oakley

Rokley, I d I just want to clear up the hotel for you a little bit. It's an ex extended living hotel. So a person that's traveling from up north down south, and we have it around Dade City, around Lacouche, down in Zephyrhills. We have people come here and stay six months out of the year. And we know when they leave because our traffic gets better. But when they come down it's very busy at that time. But this extent this hotel is set up for extended living. There's

a I don't know what you call a uh half kitchen or whatever in those rooms to where they can stay and not have to go out to eat or whatever. There's also gonna be places to eat. in this round that hotel area in that commercial area there and also there's one or two restaurants, you know, th in that. But then they also have a um Water feature with uh a lazy river and things of that nature in

in and around that area also. But uh and they have wells for their water. Um I didn't understand and maybe Barbara can tell me, I don't know what culvert they're talking about that would raise the water in one place in another. Is that from Middle Lake to Moody Lake? Or Moody Lake and Moody you have an east and west side of Moody Lake.

Barbara Wilhite

They said it was under Lake Island Road. She said it was under Lake Iowa Road, but

Oakley

It was under what?

Barbara Wilhite

My engineer's saying he doesn't know about said culvert. Um

Oakley

Is it the cover? Is it covered over near Bayhead Road?

Starkey

No one to say.

North of A.

Oakley

North Just north of Bayhead that runs from Middle Lake to uh Moody Lake. Okay. Yeah. Okay, I got you. Yeah.

Starkey

Um

Mariano

hang on, hang

on.

Name the address of the record.

Joe

Sure. But go ahead. Afternoon, everyone. Joe Simoneau with WRA Engineering 12363, Hampton Park Boulevard, Tampa, Florida, 33624. I believe we're talking about a culvert that connects Moody Lake to Middle Lake. It sounds like it's been reamed out. That's usually a good thing that they're cleaning out culverts. Um, but either way, it's irrelevant to our project. We were permitted back in October 2024 through both Swift Mud and Pasco for our master stormwater

uh master stormwater development. Uh that's already been constructed. We're going to be moving on to a Swift MUD transfer to operation, which basically is a fancy word for project clearance because the stormwater is all complete. And it was permitted to attenuate or hold back water to the rest of the water. regulated amount that we're discharging into the lake. So we've met all regulatory criteria for what we're sending downstream, both from a rate and a water quality treatment standpoint. But it's good to hear if they are cleaning out culverts

downstream.

Oakley

Right. Anything else coming shortly? Okay. Um

Also this property is in tiers, so you you find it uh the tier next down next to Moody Lake is low, then you got a middle tier and then you got upper tier, where each tier have different people on it, but you can see over the next tier going out across the interstate and and the lake down there. I can only imagine how pretty the sights are out of out of that hotel. if you're looking because all this property lays on the Brooksville Ridge. And uh it's

very high rolling hills and beautiful country out there. So Yeah. Uh

Joe

I can attest to I've I've done many, many projects over the years in Pasco and this is probably the it's definitely the only project I have ever done this on and will probably be the only project in Florida I ever do this again and we actually have to have switchback roadways to get a car. down the road or to get a car down the hill. So it's a pretty impressive photography.

Oakley

And you'll find you'll find that RVs don't travel like they don't all line up and come to the R V park that one day. Because if they did you wouldn't be able to get in and out. But they actually go in their own timing and move and and it's not a crowd of people that that's coming now. If you have a amusement thing going on or some musical or something going there. you'll find local people coming there, not necessarily those R Vers will be coming. Those those people will already be there. But um

this is a very nice project. But y you find people all over the north coming to uh R V resort and this one here allows for extended living because not everybody has that uh you know, recreation vehicle that they travel in. So Commissioner Starkey.

Starkey

Um when I look at my map here, Commissioner Oakley.

Oakley

Yeah.

Starkey

I know this was in your family, some a family member or something at one point. I don't see the money. So was it a citrus citrus?

Oakley

When we had citrus there.

Starkey

Yeah. And um and and now and thank you to the applicant. There's gonna be a lot more trees on there than there was before.

Oakley

Oh he's gonna put more trees there.

Starkey

And then when I look across the street now I see Where you see in this map an old citrus I guess that was an old citrus farm there. It looks like they have a Um Agro tourism. Um Project going. Let me see. I just saw what it was called. It's like a a little farm. Let's see here it is. Where'd it go? Uh well it's a place where you can go. They have a uh a maze and uh sunflower

field. Um Dade City Farms. So I think this will help that small business. Oh yeah. And and then that right across from where that hotel's gonna so this is across from where the hotel's gonna be. Uh where those orange trees were. is Dade City Farms and then just below that is an L L C Called quality stump removal. That's what I'm seeing here on the map. At the corner of Johnston and Lake Iola and there's a bunch of commercial cars in there, so Um seems like that I I

I'm I'm in support of the project and I I think it'll be a good addition to the community.

Oakley

I think it's be a very nice it'd be a a plus to the area. And and it's a broader range of people coming there than Just people round there. They're gone people that probably have gone to Zephyrhills all their life might end up here at times. So

Mariano

Right, I've got a question. I want to put a map. We heard about the noise and I think it's A reasonable concern and I will say that I've had several times trying to get someone from the Sheriff's Office out to get a code enforcement hunts on a noise button is almost impossible. Some doesn't

Oakley

have a noise ordinance in

Mariano

intact. Let me finish please. Yeah. So my concern is that if we do get some loud noise, to get someone out there to go Check it, protect it. I think the burden should be on uh the hotel operator here with the doing the music. What I did was and and I'm subject to letting the staff kind of figure out work with work with the applicant and the neighbors, but my thing is I put a series of blue dots around the map that's out there. I don't even know if that's the appropriate spot, but I think there should be some

type of noise detection for the decibels on our ordinance around the area so when the music's playing. The They can show what's going on out there.

Barbara Wilhite

Yeah, we're not gonna agree to that. That's totally unreasonable. I mean when I was up here with Saddlebrook, nobody asked me for a noise ordinance, nobody asked me for a noise meter. They're a resort just like this is And that's just not reasonable to to have somebody that's gonna have music. And it's connected with the resort that that's our new standard is now we're gonna have to you know have noise monitoring. That's a very expensive system to put together. I have a comment I have a

Mariano

I'm w I wanna continue if you don't mind. We'll come back to you in a minute. Um well you may feel that way, but I wanna I'll listen to what stat maybe has to say and maybe the other board members as well. But if they're worried about the concerts and I know it's difficult to get a sheriff's deputy out there, especially on a rural area like this, we are in the Northeast rural area, I don't think it's too much and maybe staff can comment to it a little bit because I know we've never asked for it before, but we've never had this type of situation before either. So maybe staff could come to it.

Barbara Wilhite

Well with all due respect we did saddle work and there were homes right next door.

Mariano

Saddlebrook was a resort built in and everything else came around it with the saddlebrook being in the home and and all that coming in there. This is coming in after the fact when these people have been established.

Barbara Wilhite

The applicant's not agreeable, so

Mariano

It's okay. Uh so maybe staff could talk to it.

Yeager

So I I also uh am an R B er in a camper and normally when they're talking about live music it's it's by the pool or it's outside a restaurant or something, it would be no different than Uh whiskey Joe's. It's not like a Sims Park where it's a full on concert. It's just it's live music, that's all. And and that's I think there's a difference between having something like an amphitheater where somebody's gonna jam out to just live music.

Mariano

Uh let me bring the applicant back up.

Yeager

And I've I've camped all over the country.

Mariano

So if it's not to be quiet music, what is the music setup going to be exactly?

Barbara Wilhite

What exactly is my music gonna be?

Mariano

Yeah, like how's it gonna be set up? Is it

Barbara Wilhite

an amphitheater? Is it

Mariano

gonna be just a little stage where you get a one or two band plays out there, or is it gonna be a seven piece band? What's what's gonna go on?

Barbara Wilhite

I I don't have the details of how many people are gonna be in our bands. I tried to write it to be clear that it can't be open to the public because I figured that's where events come from. You know, I tried to write it and I purposely wrote it that way so that we're not talking about events. Even though everybody else keeps talking about events, we're not talking about events. And so that's why I added that condition. So it is real it is what happens at resorts, music that's played at resorts outside, that's the type of entertainment that we're talking about.

Mariano

All right, let me let me ask staff a question then. I wanna find out who's familiar with the no ordinance uh enforcement and what how could we what do they think would happen if we did get a complaint from somebody.

Mike Carballa

Uh Mr. Allen, I don't know, do we have anyone from code? available I could spook on that? No, we do not. All right. I mean I believe we have a is it I don't want to speak off hand. There there is a decibel rating and there is a time period, ten PM to I think could be six or seven A. M. where you have to keep the decibels below a certain level. Are you suggesting equipment that would monitor that in real time and then report back? I

mean tantamount to like a red light camera, I guess, for sound?

Mariano

And and and again I don't know the technicalities of having it uh so having a Noise des device to go out there, we would go except

Mike Carballa

I mean if we report out we we do have decimal decibel meters where our code compliance officers can measure you know what the sound is at a certain certain point. Thank you, David.

David Allen

Provide some additional clarification, Mr. Kabul. Uh good good afternoon, Chairman

Mariano.

And board members, um, our noise um component of the ordinance is sometimes challenging to enforce because we have to have a sustained level of decibel exceedance and that has to be measured at the property line. And so in this particular case, it would have to be on the border or the edge of the project itself. And then again, we would have to have a certain duration of time where that noise exceedance would be above the decibel level before we'd be able to issue a

citation.

Mariano

Right, so if you're gonna look at trying to do that along I seventy five, it'd be difficult. I don't know if there's I see maybe one, maybe cross from there.

Starkey

You have to silence that phone.

Mariano

So again, you so when when I look at if you're gonna go monitor that, now you've got to have someone probably either come in the resort, go on the edge, or go on the right-of-way outside the property to go monitor it. I just find it a difficult thing. Um so and and I don't want it takes. What does it take to actually can is there such a thing as an automated decibel reader that can be installed?

David Allen

know personally if there is um i i do know though just kind of looking at the layout here with with it being directly adjacent to interstate 75 is that background noise is correct affected too as well and so the the decibel readings will have

Mariano

Okay, so now from kinda what I did on the map on the other side you've got one house that's across from close to the entryway, another further further up the map. Does

that mean?

Stump grinding?

Starkey

That's the stump removal company. So not the

Mariano

Sunday house.

Starkey

It's got a bunch of commercial cars. Okay, so that house. What about

Oakley

further up?

Starkey

That one where all the citrus trees are, that's the dates.

Oakley

There's only a few homes right there on Lake Isla Road, near near the road, near this project. I'm sure that the big trees or the pines and all that got blown down during the storms and all, I'm sure that The owner putting this in would want to put some trees back up for a buffer himself. So I think that'd come back. There was actually a tree on that side where the lady was talking about earlier There was a tree there, a pine tree. That I could I could

not touch one of my workers' hands reaching all the way around it. That was a huge tree. I don't know if it's still there or not, but that was a historical pine tree, because it wasn't an oak tree, it was a pine tree, and it was huge and it was right in that area. So I remember that from years ago. But there's not a lot of homes real close on Lake Halloween. There there was some put there, but I bet there's not over seven or eight that'd be close close to

this property. Now they could be because they got vacant land over there.

Mariano

All right, so Mr. Allen, I'm gonna say to you that hopefully this doesn't become an issue. If it does, we'll need a team to go out there at certain points to uh to monitor it. But we do have an ordinance in place, so we'll have to r rely on that. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

Any other questions?

Joe

Yeah.

Mariano

Okay.

So for items number two forty six we'll go first. That'll be the land use. Do a motion.

Oakley

Move approval.

Yeager

Second.

Starkey

Yeah roll call vote District One Commissioner Oakley Aye District Two Commissioner Weightman uh excuse uh District three Commissioner Starkey Aye District four commissioner Yeager aye district five Chairman Mariano

Mariano

aye and now we go to item P fifty eight is it a rezoning move approval

All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 4-0. That's moved.

Now we go to Item P fifty five. P54