Kenton P54 P55 P57 development agreements and rezoning

1:49:05P54 first. P-54. We have proof of publication in the February eighteenth, 2026 edition of the template time supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailing zones I quote.

1:49:26All right. Amy Toll, Planning Development and Economic Growth. Item P54 is a development agreement in the name of Kenton DA Connected City, GPI, Tampa, LLC. Development agreement for the Kenton MPUD to design, permit, and construct roadway improvements in exchange for transportation development fee credits located in central Pasco County. There is a presentation for you from staff.

1:49:54Right.

1:50:01Good afternoon, William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth.

1:50:07I've got the the clicker back. Barbara was worthy of the clicker for the pointer, so I guess I can have this back. This is PDE 260227. This is the Kenton Development Agreement. A little bit before we get started, the next item is the April Development Agreement followed by the Kenton Commercial MPD. While all three are not separate or not represented by the same applicant, they do work in tandem whenever I talk. about the roadway infrastructure that's being built within this portion of a connected city as it relates um

1:50:37from overpass moving northward. Here's a location map within the county and the location map within Connected City in the community hub along existing uh Kenton Road is a dirt road.

1:50:52This is the segment of road for this particular MPD that's obligated to the Kinton MPUD for construction. You can see to the south is Elam Road. There's the gap, and then highlighted in red is this applicable segment of Kenton MPUD. Which moves north to Tyndall Road, that little gap that you see between the southernmost tip of the red improvements and Elam Road is the is the following DA

1:51:23that you'll hear. The April DA is that that missing segment there on this current map.

1:51:28Well, question for you just before you go for Uh I see McKendry's n not too far away from there. With that connection that's on that's highlighted in the in light color on the top part, would that connect the Tyndall Road and then m make its way to McKendry or we'll do a connection?

1:51:46Eventually McKendry and Tyndall they intersect. In the double branch MPUD, when McKendry is fully built from its current terminus as it was constructed by Johns Hopkins, as it moves north into double branch. That's where you have several east-west roads that connect Tyndall Road, McKendry, and Kenton as they both parallel move northward to State Road 52.

1:52:08So in the northernmost part of the Map, wh is there a road existing now that's that's Pindle that goes all the way down and connects out to McKendry now?

1:52:17Uh currently there is an alignment of Tyndall Road. That red is showing the new alignment of Tyndall Road. There is existing Tyndall Road currently today, but that east-west little piece uh that's red, that'll that's the new Tyndall alignment. So this new

1:52:29Tindle alignment when is that gonna be connected to go over or in the interim, does it connect right now down? Does it move down?

1:52:38It it doesn't now uh what needs to happen for that piece, that piece was previously um given to the tall timbers MPUD. Tall Timbers was going to be constructing that next roadway infrastructure. Um so we need that little development piece in between the bus depot and that alignment attendle to come in for that little last piece.

1:53:02This is the the modified cross section for Kenton Road. The important thing here is the the twelve foot multi-use paths being constructed on either side of the road.

1:53:19And as a as a catch-all, you'll hear me say this several times throughout today's meeting. This is one of three different projects that we have as a backstop for building the Misson Kenton segment, as which connects Elam to Overpass. So this development agreement, the Kenton DA, the next DA, the appreciation.

1:53:43So we have three different backstops in order to get this last segment of road built from Elum to Overpass. This comes to you with a recommendation of approval from Planning Commission, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Come available for any questions.

1:53:57Okay. Anyone have any questions questions about this? I believe Ms. Roper.

1:54:01I believe um the new Canton Road's gonna help some uh flooding of the r of that road as it was before. There was a lot of flooding and I think they Kenton coming through is gonna help with some of that area that comes out of uh King Lake and goes goes to the west. Right. There have some folks there have had some real issues right there with flooding.

1:54:26Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.

1:54:29All right,

1:54:29so I hear the applicant lady coming forward. Because we are gonna have both these items before we vote. You want to do do this one now too? Sir. We're gonna have both items. Do you want to do this one? Finish with 54 as well? Yeah. And then we're gonna bring back 57 before we vote on this one.

1:54:44Well, I want to uh if we can stay in order, that's great for me, because that they're separate applications. And then

1:54:49we're gonna we're gonna I wanna we want both of them heard together. So Well here w if you want to talk about fifty four we'll talk about

1:54:55Yeah, I I gotta do 'em one at a time just 'cause they're they're a little bit different deals. So Clark Hobby, Hobby and Hobby PA one oh nine North Brush Street, Tampa, Florida. I've been sworn. This project uh is the northernmost of my two projects and runs uh for the segment picks up in the April M PUD where they stop and it goes up to the Tyndall segment. And uh The credits that we're getting in this development agreement are consistent with

1:55:25the comprehensive plan, the financial plan for Connected City, and are already called out to be done and allowed in the MPUD that was approved, I think, about the year. three years ago. So it's it's we're really the only purpose of this DA is to create the construction requirements that the county has in any DA uh to make sure we do what we need to to do on the construction uh side to get the credits themselves. So Um I'm happy to answer any questions

1:55:56you have. We have met with the neighbors a number of times. Um we've tried to work through any drainage concerns they may have. And we've also, just so the commission's aware, you may recall when the MPUD came through. The way the roadway is designed going north, it's all on our property. And the reason we did that was to A not cut off the neighbors who are using the existing dirt road to the east of us as you get up by King Lake and the lots. You can see on the northern part,

1:56:26but then also it created a bigger setback for our neighbors from where our development activity is. So my recollection is that the closest house is like 275 feet away from where the road's gonna be built. So it's a good long ways.

1:56:41Yeah. Then any questions for the applicant? Okay.

1:56:45I um just w what is the what is the profile of the road? I don't think I have Like it. Sorry.

1:56:54Yeah, they can go back, we'll can take you through it. And and by the way, on this one, Joe Semino is my engineer on this one, and he can go through that uh with you if you have any technical questions. There you go. But uh Commissioner, I think I may be able to answer your question. So this had originally in the uh plans for connected city, it had uh uh bike lanes, you know, on the road, next to the road. And so staff asked us starting about a year ago to take those out and to upsize the the

1:57:24multi use pass on either side. And so we ended up with two twelve foot multi-use pass and got rid of the bike lanes.

1:57:31Okay, and that twenty two feet What is that on either side? I I I I never understood why we Why we preserve so much

1:57:44or if we get into

1:57:45I I don't I don't know if it's clear areas or Joe, do you wanna answer?

1:57:49I know I know it was done before all y'all were here, but The twenty two feet between the road and the trail? Um

1:57:58I couldn't I I don't have it in front of me, so I couldn't.

1:58:01I mean it's gonna be beautiful, but you wouldn't call that necessarily really walkable. So when

1:58:08utilities

1:58:13I don't think that doesn't mean the trail can't be Android.

1:58:18best to meet

1:58:20I I I think I think and

1:58:22shade trees.

1:58:22You may be also looking at we're you know we're building two initially but allowing for the transition to four and that may be some of the area that you're looking at.

1:58:31Well there's eleven foot, eleven foot, eleven foot, eleven foot four or

1:58:33is that got the

1:58:34I think I think that's just grass on either side. It's just the very, very wide corridors. Yeah. Which lends to high speed unless we've got some traffic calming going on. And it's you gotta run across You gotta run across that road quick.

1:58:53Yeah. Understood. Well, if if you all ever decide to change the the cross section to make 'em smaller and general throughout Connecticut, I don't think we have a problem with it, but it it's the general widths in the comp plan and so that's what we're following.

1:59:08Is this going all the way from Elam to uh

1:59:12It's going from Elam that go goes all the way up and we'll go to Hendle. Okay.

1:59:17We're already having issues with utility providers playing nicely in our rights of way. I don't know that we really want to narrow them. Yeah, we we may

1:59:24not want to take it any smaller. But that'll just point out smaller that's areas of ruin. That's the width

1:59:30that's

1:59:30in the

1:59:30right-of-way. There's a ten foot utility easement besides the twenty-two-foot.

1:59:36Okay, but it

1:59:37on the outsides of the trails. I'm just saying it's it's Mm-hmm. We're

1:59:44just playing the the cars we're dealt with, Commissioner. It's in the comp plan right now.

1:59:48I've seen roads like this in Texas. Yeah, a separate comp plan would be called.

1:59:52Okay.

1:59:53When they did cattle drives down the road.

1:59:55All right, so now we'll hear a presentation on fifty seven.

2:00:03Right. Like I was right in here.

2:00:06Oh, where are we? Did we take public comment? No.

2:00:12Public comment first, though.

2:00:16All right.

2:00:16So

2:00:16P54,

2:00:17public

2:00:18comment. And actually the uh if you can put the public. PowerPoint up, that'd be great. It's really for fifty-five. I didn't realize this was the northern portion of it. Michael Sorek, uh [address removed]. Wanna speak on fifty-five, but it's gonna apply to this as far as the twenty-two foot there residents uh were um

2:00:42told that this will be how do we go forward?

2:00:49Oh, there it is.

2:00:52Thank you. Uh residents were told that this is going to eventually be the four lanes, so two lanes in each direction, and there was space being left there so that it could easily be expanded. This is gonna be the main thoroughfare between Epperson and Mara. There's going to be a significant amount. There we go. All right. So this is going to be To be the main thoroughfare between Epperson and Mara, between the two lagoons. So it's going to be more than just the approved developments of Priel and then Kenton. Yeah. Okay.

2:01:23This is actually the trap part of the traffic study from P57. So this is the most current traffic study. And I wanted to point it out for 55. but it's going to apply to this with the existing projects that are already approved. Peak hours there's going to be 1355 cars per hour traveling this road. In the PM There's gonna be almost fifteen hundred cars traveling this road. So The

2:01:54residents, you can't build this paved road fast enough for safety reasons. However, we we would really like to encourage you to get right on the board or right out of the gates, making this two lanes travel in each direction, because there's going to be a tremendous amount of vehicle flow. There's no busing in here. these new developments, it's not just getting to work, it's gonna be getting your kids to school because all the schools were moved out to Curley Road, but it's within the two miles. So it's too far to take golf carts and alternative

2:02:24transportation to get the kids to school. Everybody's in a vehicle. In and out continuously. With this number of cars. If it's a two-lane road, cars are going to stack up quickly at those intersections. The other thing from the resident side is if the existing Kenton Road gets renamed, we'd like to have some input on that if it if it changes from Kenton Road. But as far as the road Goes this there's no objection from

2:02:54the current residents because this is going to make everything a lot safer. We'd love to see four lanes, but other than that, it's all safety concerns and the paths for the current residents and the future residents. residents is gonna make a a a huge improvement for the safety of the current and the future residents. Mr.

2:03:15Potterek, just ki for the record, would you acknowledge that you were sworn for the resolution. I was. Thank you.

2:03:24Any of the public comment to this item?

2:03:29Anyone online?

2:03:30No one online.

2:03:31Okay. All right. Go to the next item. P fifty seven.

2:03:36P fifty seven, correct? We have proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times January twenty-first, twenty twenty-six, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings for the Board of County Commissioners meeting of March 10th, where it was continued to today.

2:03:57Okay. Uh Amy Tull, Planning, Development and Economic Growth. P57 is a zoning amendment in the name of Kenton Road Commercial MPD, Kenton Road Commercial LLC. It's a rezoning request from AC Agricultural to MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District to allow for the development of 110,000. Square feet of non-residential entitlements and a hundred and twenty-room hotel and associated infrastructure. Located in northeast Pasco County at the northwest

2:04:27corner of the intersection of Kenton Road and Elam Road in the community hub special planning area connected city on approximately 9.43 acres, and staffs available for a presentation.

2:04:40Any questions just

2:04:44Any questions for staff? Could Could you

2:04:47all it seems odd that it's a rezoning matter and your your own haven't acted on those two development agreements yet, or were you doing that?

2:04:56Yes.

2:04:59Okay, did we Okay. I don't know. We're

2:05:01gonna come back to it.

2:05:07Yeah. I'm I'm confused, Commissioner. I think Barbara and I are confused. So we got two DAs that are unrelated to another rezoning. What I don't understand why are we not voting on the DAs?

2:05:18We are going to, but staff wanted to have both of them presented to us so we can listen to both of them.

2:05:23Both of the DAs?

2:05:24Yes.

2:05:25So just yeah, my two DAs. Okay. I just I th I was getting confused. I didn't why are we thought you wanted to hear this other rezoning which doesn't make any sense.

2:05:34Staff wanted to have fifty four and fifty seven, right?

2:05:39Okay, so fifty four and fifty five

2:05:40that's I think that's what got us confused. Okay. I

2:05:43was on my list Jack.

2:05:46As to P fifty five. Yeah, I

2:05:49so I got a st I got I got it mixed up, sorry about that.

2:05:52So fifty five. As to P fifty five, we have proof of publication in this February eighteenth, twenty twenty-six edition of the Tampa Bay Times, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

2:06:07William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. This is the April DA In connected city.

2:06:19the location and its approximate location in Connected City within the community hub. This is for the roadway segment just south that wasn't highlighted in red, uh in between the previous DA's Kenton segment and Elam Road. It's the same exact typical section.

2:06:39This development agreement is just with the April E DA, the other one was with the Kenton and Beauty.

2:06:50Here's the cross section, same as the previous DA.

2:06:55And again, this is the second of three backstops for the missing segment of Kenton Road in between Overpass and Elam. And it also comes to the board with a recommendation of approval from both the Planning Commission and Planning Development Economic Growth Department. I'm available for any additional questions.

2:07:13Any questions for staff on P fifty five?

2:07:17Um

2:07:18Mr. Starkey.

2:07:19Well, I have a question on Elam. Sure.

2:07:23We're gonna We are gonna go back to it, so.

2:07:26Okay. Well my question's about E Land. Okay. If you wanna w I can't

2:07:30we have we'll go back to that next. Uh is there any question on P fifty five? Okay. Applicant wanna come forward?

2:07:37Why do you think?

2:07:40Commissioner's Clark Hobby again. The only thing I would say, it's basically the same setup as the previous one. You already actually approved the DA for this one. The only reason we had to come back to you is it had a construction deadline that we couldn't meet. And when we came in there, then we changed the cross section. But it's the same thing, continuing the same cross section down to Elam.

2:08:00Okay. All right. With that said, is any more public comment on P fifty is there any public comment on P fifty five?

2:08:14Michael Pultoric, address of record, I have been sworn in. I just want to get on the record here the volume of traffic that is going to occur with the existing approved developments. And nope, the other one. The one that we started out with. That one'll be fun though.

2:08:39Okay, so these were the original uh volume with signalization charts that in the prior meetings I did put in record and What I what I really, really, really need you to hear me on this is not only should this be four lanes right out of the gates, but with the existing this is background peak for P-57. There is going to be, without P-57, almost 1700 vehicles traveling. Traveling east-west across this

2:09:09intersection of Kenton and Elam, and there's going to be thirteen hundred and fifty-five projected vehicles. This is in one peak hour. One peak hour AM.

2:09:22In the afternoon.

2:09:25Come on. There we go. There's gonna be almost fifteen hundred vehicles and over seventeen hundred. Meeting at this intersection. For safety reasons. There has got to be signalization at this intersection. It's going to go straight through. With four directions of travel.

2:09:45Which which intersection are you referring to?

2:09:47So

2:09:48Kenton and Elam?

2:09:57Are those traffic circles?

2:09:59Are those traffic circles?

2:10:03There was a traffic circle

2:10:06come down

2:10:07and there's a little bubble there.

2:10:09Where Kenton Road comes down traffic circuit. The east west road is Elam. There's a bubble there with a whole bunch of blue numbers. Yeah. That's the intersection that we're talking about. That is also the intersection f south from there where the Kenton extension will get onto Overpass Road. This is an incredible amount of traffic and especially with two lanes of traffic Thirteen hundred and fifty five vehicles in one hour trying to turn onto Elam Road is gonna be beyond dangerous. Please

2:10:40consider making this four lanes and please please get us signalization right out of the gate so we don't get our kids, teenage drivers, killed trying to get to the high school. That's really it. Thank you.

2:10:56Anyone else here to anyone else here to speak to item P fifty five? Okay.

2:11:04And address the traffic concerns, what the thoughts are on the project team, what would either signalize or increase the performance?

2:11:11Absolutely. So if you if you take that that graphic back up there from the timing and phasing, I think uh an important piece to note when you're looking at volumes have moved east to west. I'm out of time. Um a as you could I get it back. So a you look at that that sixteen hundred number there for the for that peak that peak hour here. That that numbers drastically gonna decrease whenever we talk about the next project, which is constructing Kenton down to

2:11:41overpass, alleviating that east to west segment there that currently shows 1700. Additionally, you know, back of napkin, you're looking at a a much much larger capacity on Elum that exists as a two-lane than that 1600 number showing that it's it's very sufficient for the 1600 number, which again is is gonna drop whenever we punch Kenton down to overpass. So and two two signals as well.

2:12:10My beef. And the attorney says bring it up after because it doesn't have anything to do with this DA, but it but I I am gonna bring it up. Uh sorry. Is there's no multi-use trail on Elam as a brand new road. It's got five foot sidewalks on both sides, and I'm just wondering how did that happen?

2:12:32I mean if if you're wanting to Take a bike to work or a golf cart to get around these communities. You got a five foot sidewalk on both sides on a brand new road. We don't do that here. So how did that Get approved. That's I'm I'm not happy about that. I saw it when I was driving through there last year and I couldn't believe it. It's already done. So we're gonna have to go in there and Fixing. Which is ridiculous.

2:13:04Sorry.

2:13:06Okay. Any other questions for the applicant?

2:13:09But uh any anything else on Elam, any any extension on Elam or whatever, they have to do it right? And there has to be a multi use trail on one of the sides. So people can get around not in a car safely.

2:13:23All right, so the app appling doesn't anything to add to that. So we're gonna go back to item fifty-four. We have a motion.

2:13:31Mr. Chairman, uh on this particular item there was an amended document, I believe, presented to board here at the meeting. We just asked that the approval be continued on final review by uh finance in the clerk's office. Fifty four or fifty five? Fifty four.

2:13:51I made a motion to approve.

2:13:53Motion to approve

2:13:53over

2:13:54the second.

2:13:54Second.

2:13:55Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? I noted that with the changes the clerk made. Um recommendations. Now item P 55 to the board.

2:14:12Do a motion. Move approval.

2:14:15Second.

2:14:16All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Now item P fifty-six. P fifty six is fifty-seven

2:14:26is what you got left. Fifty seven. Uh fifty-seven, I believe we already announced the group publication, but We will again confirm it was Tampa Bay Times January 21st, 2026, supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings for the March 10th, 2026 meeting, where it was continued to today.

2:14:51Good afternoon, William from Million, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Before I get started, I wanted to state on the record about Elum Road. I was doing a double check. The reason that the sidewalks exist there was the 70AA cross-section in Connected City contemplates only two five-foot sidewalks, and then the path on the internal. So when the road was built, it used the adoption. typical section. However, now that we've amended the LDC when we require the multi-use pass, it is something that the County could upgrade at a future time.

2:15:23Thank you.

2:15:26This is PDE 267872. This is a rezoning request from AC Agricultural to MPUD Master Plan Unit Development to allow for the maximum development potential of 110,000 square feet of non-residential entitlements and 120 hotel rooms. This is at the northwest corner of the intersection of Kenton and Elam Road. Here's the location map, right around those other two D DAs just to the south. Located within the community hub

2:15:57SPA of Connected City there at the intersection. Here's an aerial showing the subject site. The current zoning map reflecting agricultural and the future land use in this case being that connected city SPA. Here is the master plan for the MPD. You can see here that the MPD is divided up into three different parcels, three different trapezoids, area A, B, and C, of

2:16:27which each area has its own permitted use and its own build. Building orientation standards put in a most use. The community hub in Connected City, one of the things that the community hub strives to do as both the board and planning staff are working through tall timbers with where should a park go. The community hub also is meant to serve mixed-use areas. Serving as neighborhood centers. So when staff and the applicant worked on this proposal, it's its criteria here

2:16:57being at the intersection of Elam and the Kenton Vision Road as we build that segment south. It seemed like a prime location for a mixed-use area serving as a neighborhood center. And that's what PD and the applicant tried to accomplish here within these three different areas. By having their own development standards and their own permitted uses. To go over a little bit of what these conditions of approval strive to complete, we used some neighborhood hubs, much like Lexington or Bexley,

2:17:29where non residents. Residential uses such as retail and commercial were oriented around centralized third places, which is what we did here in area B and Area C.

2:17:46These these parcels or these these end users rather in areas B and C here on the master plan IPA.

2:17:54I just I just they're just the master plan. Thank you. So i in area B and C which is area C being the furthest away from the intersection, that that's where a vertically integrated self-storage facility would be allowed and then as we move towards the intersection and we try to create that mix of uses there along the uh the gathering space between parcels B and C where you're you see the C One neighborhood commercial and the hotel. Those parcels and their buildings are sub all are required to be oriented along

2:18:25the social gathering space and to frame this intersection, as well as provide pedestrian connections to the existing pedestrian facilities along Elam and also as they build the road on Kenton moving south to Overpass.

2:18:39Are are we talking about future s something future on E Lamp or you're talking about the five foot sidewalk?

2:18:45In the interim they'd be connecting to the five foot sidewalk. Until um

2:18:52Do we have the right away to do a multi-use path there already, or do we need to get it from this project? Because we have to put a multi-use.

2:18:58We we did already get right away we actually got it right away from April, the previous DA that um was just approved item fifty-five. That actually oddly enough along this frontage of Elon took care of the right-of-way dedication. Um I'd have to see an actual map but it would To see how much space we had with the five-foot existing. Um, and the county engineer is is here as well that he can talk about the retrofitting. Mm-hmm. So I'd I'd like to go into the

2:19:28one variation request here from table five twenty-two nine R five. Uh this is to oop.

2:19:40Yeah, let me back up from the variation request and talk about the signalization here. This is the Missing Kinton road segment um that is proposed to be built with two signals there both at Elam and then one at Overpass.

2:19:57Can I can I ask you a question? Um why are we not doing traffic circles in this area? Why everywhere else we're doing traffic circles to keep traffic moving? Is there some reason we're not doing traffic circles here?

2:20:11In this particular case in Connected City a traffic circle wasn't contemplated. It was contemplated to be signalized by the colour.

2:20:27Now we're doing traffic circles.

2:20:29Good afternoon. Uh David Allen, I didn't mention uh introduce myself earlier. Sorry about that. Uh Assistant County Administrator Development Services. In these two specific locations, um were really site-restricted in terms of being able to do traffic circles just because the footprint of that type of intersection. takes up more space and kind of the the configuration that we have for both the current and future layout doesn't provide enough room for a traffic circle in those two locations.

2:20:57Well I I hope wherever we can we can contemplate traffic circles instead of traffic lights, which are safer and better to keep traffic moving.

2:21:06Certainly.

2:21:10I will now jump back to the variation request from that table. This is a variation request to reduce the parking ratio for the self-storage facility. The Connected City land development code actually requires a higher number of parking spots for self-storage facilities than the regular land development code. So the variation variation here is to to park the self storage facility consistent with the land development code in lieu of the connected city land development code.

2:21:36Why would we be changing that?

2:21:40To be so I think that the the connected city LDC vastly overparks self-storage facilities which don't generally use a a a large parking lot and that's shown in the regular land development code which has a different parking ratio. So we're we're just going with the regular land development code in this parking.

2:22:02You'll save you'll get more green space too.

2:22:04Yeah. You don't people don't they only park when they have to run in the office and get a new key or something. Yeah.

2:22:10Thank you.

2:22:14With that, that comes this comes with a recommendation of approval from both the Planning Commission and Planning Development Economic Growth. I'm here for any questions.

2:22:21Okay. I just need to know about Mr. Starkey. I just need to know about the land for the multi-use trail. Make sure that We don't know. That we have the ability to expand that sidewalk. And and if that's a county engineer or someone.

2:22:36That's important to the community.

2:22:39Oh here comes.

2:22:48Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, County Engineer. Um the the short answer is yes, we have enough space within a 70-foot right-of-way to construct multi-use pathways or trails. That the obstacle we're going to have to overcome is that we have used the space to construct the typical section adopted in Connected City, which puts six-foot multi-purpose lanes adjacent to the vehicular lanes on the roadway. And who's gonna

2:23:18use those?

2:23:19Nobody.

2:23:20Well, the board adopted those typical sections and And the development community constructed them consistent with the plan for that area. We are working aggressively to change those so that we don't construct additional facilities like this in the future, because we recognize your input as well as other members of the community saying that they would rather see that space allocated to the trail. It is relative, it's rather expensive to recognize. Retrofit a constructed corridor to move the space from the area between

2:23:50the curbs to the area outside the curbs.

2:23:53Leaving the six foot lane on the pavement, is there room to expand the sidewalk on the north side?

2:24:01I we we can certainly explore that.

2:24:03Well I'm

2:24:04not

2:24:04gonna vote for it if

2:24:05I there is so there is room within the seventy foot. What what you what you lose is the space in between the edge of the back of the curb and the front of the sidewalk that you had allocated toward landscaping. Is so something's gotta give. There there will be a trade-off. If we want a wider pathway, we will have to either move the curb and gutter inward toward the center of the road, very expensive, or give up on green space.

2:24:28So um in connected city w were we not comp I mean, this was this high-tech community where people and people got around on golf carts.

2:24:39Yeah.

2:24:40So w where's what happened to that concept on Elam Road?

2:24:44So the concept that was put forward and endorsed by the board was to construct what are called six-foot multi-purpose lanes within the curb area.

2:24:53So is that are those for golf carts?

2:24:55They are for golf carts.

2:24:56So then the traffic cannot be faster than 35 miles an hour?

2:25:00So then traffic is supposed to be traveling slower. So

2:25:03that's what we have on

2:25:03the side?

2:25:03On Elam, that's what's planned. So that that's gonna be a golf cart lane on Elam?

2:25:10Yes, with with the caveat that if you drive Elam Elam, you will notice that the golf cart lanes get merged into the vehicular lanes at a very at various locations along the Thank you,

2:25:23Margaret.

2:25:24Because To minimize the conflict at the crossing streets. It's it's a design that leaves some things to be desired. Well that's

2:25:37that's

2:25:37the

2:25:37plan. So the golf carts are allowed in the road and we have to keep the traffic

2:25:41for that area.

2:25:42Thirty-five miles an hour, but I still need a multi use a wider sidewalk on on one of the sides. But we

2:25:49uh we have the space to build a multi uh a wider sidewalk on the north side or the south side at the expense of reducing the green area.

2:25:56Okay. Great.

2:25:59So that means you want to reduce the green area?

2:26:01Yeah, I mean there's no other choice. You have to keep the kids safe on their bikes and stuff.

2:26:10You cannot pass safely on a five foot sidewalk. Another one. One of you is gonna go off the sidewalk. Um and then Yeah, so That's why they make 'em whiter now.

2:26:21All right, that's the output.

2:26:23Barbara Will Height, 6327, Grand Boulevard. I have a PowerPoint and Will got me banned from the clicker, I guess.

2:26:32Yeah, it was taken from him too.

2:26:35We'll be doing clicker training on

2:26:37the third. I'm not very good at it, so I definitely could understand why you guys would take it away from a lot of this context. You know, this is like the third time you've heard about this area. I have to say this a lot of information that we usually don't have when we when we come forward with uh some of our rezoning. The intersection here, Ket Nelam, a natural commercial location. We're at the southern edge of the community hub. As you've heard, Kenton Roads 42 foot right-of-way ultimate four lane. Elam 70 foot ultimate is two lanes.

2:27:08Obviously this area is changing. That's why you've had all these DAs. I can tell you that my client is is the segment between Elam and Overpass and the two signals. REPA is going to do that project with the county. We have a DA pend a development agreement pending as we speak here.

2:27:27We spent a lot of time placemaking here. We do have the areas Keep up with myself here. A, B, and C. Starting closest to the intersection is our area C. Next slide.

2:27:43I just gotta figure out how to do that myself. Um so for area C, we reserve this for commercial retail uses only. Oh my goodness, look at that. Now I'm gonna mess it up. Really bad. So we reserved those areas for commercial retail only. We prohibited uses, and these are significant uses when you're talking about placemaking and in this location in the community, the southern portion of the community hub. No standalone drive-throughs. So that's no Wendy's, no McDonald's. No standalone drive through.

2:28:13Awesome. No no fasting.

2:28:15No convenience gas.

2:28:16Is there a misspelling on that?

2:28:21No no convenience. All the things that the client wanted are in this prohibited list. No, I'm kidding. Or would have wanted, but we we didn't start there. So no convenience gas, no car wash, no vehicle sales, no vi no vehicle garages, that would be no auto zones, no um the things we see, right? The the the entire places and the like. We limited To restaurants, coffee shops, cafe, bars, and entertainment for the first two years. So those are the only uses that can go in there.

2:28:52charge this area to be able to to have these uses. So the client agreed to that commitment. Another thing that we talked about at Planning Commission was really just trying to talk about this social gathering area. How does it really become a social gathering area? Well we added a requirement that now we have to have a property owners association and it'll be maintained and owned by the property owners association so that all the different restaurants and the like can use that area and so can the public come, you know, hopefully in their golf

2:29:22carts or their bike and they can sit and have a coffee um in the morning. Nothing. We you heard about building orientations not only in area C, which is closest to c the intersection, but area B Both buildings within those areas orient to a social gathering area. I was asked at Planning Commission, why don't you have an exhibit? Well well, because we don't have our users yet and I never want to to show you something that I don't know I'm gonna do. So we spent painstaking time trying to write how we're gonna do these things.

2:29:53The social gathering area again talked about who maintains that. Buildings in area B and C are required to orient to that that area. We even go down to where you can park, where you can have parking, where you can have driving, just to make sure again you're framing and making an actual social gathering area. Down to to number B. It's reserved for commercial, retail, office, or hotel use only. Again, depending on which of those users you have, how the parking and driving can happen in relation to the social

2:30:24gathering area. the same commitment in the area B that the commercial any commercial retail uses in that area for two years have to be, you know, restaurants, coffee shops, cafe bars, entertainment.

2:30:35So what happens after two years? Yeah,

2:30:37what does

2:30:38what does that mean? After two years we we flip back to not doing this competently.

2:30:46But there's the prohibited list. You can have other you can have other things other than so you could have a nail shop, you can have it's anything that's not prohibited, you can have on the commercial retail side.

2:30:59W when does the two year clicker start?

2:31:03Starts from ho if you approve today. Starts from today.

2:31:09So then we went to area A. Area A See? See why they banned me?

2:31:17Yeah.

2:31:22We looked at area A. That's the area we're allowed to have the self-storage use. No more than three acres. First floor retail's required, 5,000 square feet. And our facades are required to carry architectural landscaping features to add visual interest. So it's going to be how it looks, first floor retail, the size is restricted, so the storage will be above above retail.

2:31:47And that is the presentation.

2:31:49Mr. Starkey.

2:31:50Um when when will this Kenton Road be built?

2:31:59I I I'm a little I know the client has already kicked off the design. Um we have working on our DA with the county, just so as quickly as we can get the DA approved.

2:32:08So I'm a little concerned that that it's the two years w would start before the roads there, so Is that what does that It's kind of ambiguous for me. Um And I I feel that Maybe we need more time. Is it two years after Kenton Road is open? Um but You may not even start Canton Road in two years. Like two years. You gotta get your permits. All those things, right? And

2:32:39then the opportunity will be gone to have something very good. That's really good for the neighborhood. So

2:32:47I don't know. I don't think it should start from today. What what are your all's thoughts?

2:32:56I'm gonna say I've got a I think it's a a legit concern. So having it known when it's coming. Um I think we're doing well to kind of work with that storage thing to have the re uh the retail underneath it to make it work to help the site m be become more viable. But I think if you stretch out that time to when the road's built And put

2:33:15the two years in. You have public comments, so let me talk to my client in the meantime. Okay. Thank you.

2:33:22I mean I I appreciate sometimes land sits forever, it's not fair to the to the developer. Okay. I'm thinking of that Saddlebrook property.

2:33:32All right. So now we're going to go to public comment. Well they need to come forward.

2:33:40You're getting nine minutes today. This is why I'm here. Yeah, I did ask for extended.

2:33:56I'll give you my chocolate flavors for us. They're a lot less

2:34:00Park guy reporting for duty. Michael Pultorek, uh address on record, yes I am under oath. Do you want this in your neighborhood? And I mean it. This is this we're talking about a five-story hotel and a three-story storage unit in the middle of our residential community hub. This is unacceptable. I am not opposed to growth. I'm not opposed to things being built. This is silliness. This is gonna be in the middle of Epperson and Apreel and

2:34:30Kenton.

2:34:34I want to talk about the comp plan for a minute.

2:34:36Yeah.

2:34:37When you go into the comp plan, the LDC, Connected City, even though staff, uh Director Pitos has repeatedly on record said that the Comp Plan is aspirational and the term transitional has been used repeatedly, it does not exist in the Comp Plan, neither of them. Why is that important? Because in your Comp Plan, it says adherence to the Connected City Comprehensive Plan Policies, all CC MPUD

2:35:07development applications shall be consistent with the intent and policies of the Connected City Comp Plan. That's very important because it states in 5229, the big book that was written for the connected city, what the purpose and intent is. And there's a legal definition there. The word shall. The word shall means mandatory. It is mandatory to follow the purpose and intent. Now while the greater connected city SPA allows for all use types, although

2:35:38some are prohibited. Technically an international airport didn't get prohibited, just for the record. It says each spazone has a specific character that describes the optimal density, intensity, and predominant uses. This is a map of the greater Spa zones. The community hub is orange. South of it is blue. That's the South Innovation Area. To the north is the green innovation area. To the purple on the

2:36:08left or the west, that's the business district. And the yellow is the urban area. The purpose and intent of the community hub. This is it right here, straight from the book. I zoomed in a little bit. The intent of this zone is to create a unique centralized education. Schools have been moved out though. recreation and open space system that's well connected to each of the other zones and serves and complements the city connected city development as a whole. The community hub zone shall be

2:36:38characterized by a mix of residential, educational, recreational, civic, culture, and resort type uses. The lagoons are the resort type uses.

2:36:51If you want to ask where storage units and hotels go, the very same comp plan tells us the north and south innovation zones are for office, medical, hotel, and retail. I can lump self-storage units into that definition of what's supposed to be there. That definition does not fit inside of the community hub. And nobody can get up here and try to explain that it's a transitional zone because

2:37:21it's bordered on all four sides by residential, and the comp plan is not aspirational. We have to follow this. Storage units are not part of the community hub purpose and intent. Back to the map so you can see it. The orange, the community hub, is meant to be residential and parks. Staff brought up the parks, so I'll jump right in. This is the VOPH superpark. It's actually 17 minutes by car to get from the community hub

2:37:51to the park. And it's been whittled down to three softball fields, so it's not gonna work. That is your eighty acres in the middle of Connected City. The 40 acres right there could, if you wanted to, be turned into this. This fits on 40 acres right there. And I can show you how Pinellas is using a park just like this to make money. They bring revenue in, they bring in tourists, and beyond that, it pays for itself. This could be sitting right on your property right now. But let's jump back into this. This

2:38:22is what we're talking about. That does not meet the purpose or intent of the Connected City nor the Comp Plan. Florida statutes 163 says no development may be approved unless it is consistent with the adopted comprehensive plan. Why is it important? Let me give you some court cases. Machado versus Muggler. Says it will be consistent. Pinecrest versus Shidel. They actually had to demolish an existing apartment complex because it violated the comp plan. M.

2:38:54Hoth and Walton. This is from twenty twenty one, heard by the District Court, specifically says development orders must comply with the entire comprehensive plan.

2:39:07This does not belong in our residential area, and I don't think you would approve this in any of your neighborhoods and your developments. Starkey Ranch is a perfect ex example. Now

2:39:18don't do

2:39:18that. This would not be put there. This has to be voted no. Thank you.

2:39:26Look at that. No tree. Anyone else to speak to item P fifty seven?

2:39:32No one else decided.

2:39:34I see Nansel Hazelwood coming up.

2:39:41Nancy Hayswood, [address removed]. I agree with Mike completely. Why have we got a planning department and a comprehensive plan if we don't follow it? Thank you.

2:40:03Barbara Wilhite again for the applicant. So there's a table that He didn't show you. Table C C four-2 development pattern for the spa zones. It talks about predominant uses. And yes, he quo he read to you predominant uses. And then it talks about prohibited uses. What's prohibited? No commercial on that list. Prohibit is industrial. It talks about mixed-use areas, which mixed-use areas serving as neighborhood centers. That's

2:40:33what we're we're doing here. This is this is commercial. for the area. We made sure we designed it for the area. So It is not against the community hub. We're on the southern edge of the community hub. We're not on the lake. We're not in the middle. We're on the edge. So we have followed the comprehensive plan and we have followed the connected city requirements.

2:40:57To answer the question I did talk to my s my uh client back there and so we can change the two years to three years. Like I say, as soon as they approve our development agreement, they're gonna start construction. Um they're already started the design process even without the development agreement in place. Um just to try to get it going, so

2:41:27Um, I wanna show a picture of a storage facility. Um

2:41:37I'm gonna send it. Barbara, I've shown it to you before. See if I can drop a pin on it's in Sarasota. Um

2:41:47I don't know how to get in there more.

2:41:53Should we look at the South Innovation Zone?

2:41:56Pardon me?

2:41:56We're not looking at the South Innovation Zone.

2:41:58If we're community hub zone, we're on the south side of it, South Innovation Zones to our South.

2:42:07You can see common uses, residential mixed uses shall be pro high provided in all zones. But certainly not a zone where you're not supposed to have commercial uses.

2:42:14Uh co could go. Back to the map that shows exactly where it's located. Well the zoom in not a star but the zoom in

2:42:39You wanna see the the different I wanna see

2:42:42I wanna see the property like an aerial to show where it is exactly.

2:43:03And the part of the road that we're looking at the part of the agreement is to take it all the way down from Elam Road to

2:43:08To overpass.

2:43:09To overpass.

2:43:10Correct. Correct. And then the signalization of both of those intersections.

2:43:19Uh let's go back to the previous one.

2:43:24The map that showed the zones. Please.

2:43:30Do you guys see the different zones? Yeah. She's looks like she's pulling it up there.

2:43:43It's got the different colors on it. It's got like purple and blue and That's it, yeah. That's what you're looking for, Commissioner.

2:44:02And if you could just go back to the regular slide that just listed all the uses, please.

2:44:15Did you want the table, Commissioner?

2:44:17Yeah, the table, sorry.

2:44:19The table, yeah, the table thing, yeah.

2:44:40Would a hotel be considered something that supports a recreational use?

2:44:45Would a hotel be considered a recreational use?

2:44:47Would it would it s no, it says mix of uses that support recreational uses? Would a hotel be considered something?

2:44:54Absolutely.

2:44:56Limited storage center.

2:45:08You have to remember that you have John Hopkins about a half mile away.

2:45:19So would the storage qualify as a mixed use of a serving serving neighborhood centers?

2:45:24Yes. Well you gotta remember your your storage is

2:45:28is vertical as you want it. You want the retail on the first floor so it's not like it's taking up land. That's the that's why the county you all wanted to see the retail on the first, so that storage is something you need, but it's not taking a property. So if you don't do it here, then it takes up property somewhere else. That's why we put the retail on the first floor.

2:45:52All right, and back to after three years. What would then potentially happen to the property.

2:45:59I think that's an addition to the storage.

2:46:02Yes, I'm not sure.

2:46:03I'm just I'm just trying to that's that's another thing that as you brought up. Yeah. Area

2:46:07A is gonna be st storage and retail. Retail first floor, fifty five hundred square feet. And then A and B. B can be retail, office, or hotel. A excuse me, C, going at A B C. Um C is just retail. So The reservation, which for now for three years, says any of the retail in this project, other than the first floor retail. Um would

2:46:38be limited to drinking or eating. For three years. And then after that it can go to other other uses, whether it be Hell hair shop, nail shop, um

2:46:54Still can be restaurants, still can be can be Well it could be restaurants from the beginning. Can always be can always be restaurants and coffee shops and the like. It's just a reservation saying we're gonna go after those uses for three years and after three years we couldn't get you know we need to develop the property. So that's the that was the where we came up with the the limit limiting it to try to Get those uses.

2:47:21Um Commissioner, I sent Gina two photos. Can you show the first one and then the second one? Because I'll probably take a second one. This is I've showed you this development before. This is uh Lakewood Ranch kind of outside of Lakewood Ranch. It's on fruit, it's called Fruitville Commons. Um those that's multifamily on the right side. And that's a storage unit. uh building there. And can you show the next picture? I'm and I'm sorry, uh the Google

2:47:52map, the Google car did not go down that road. Is that the second one or the first one? Yes, it's show the second one. Um It's all it's pretty m yeah, so That's right. That's one that's vertically. That is vertical mix use? That's pretty nice looking. If we can, you know, get something like that. I think that's a lot better.

2:48:16No, I you bring up a good point. So how can we how can we incorporate that into that so it looks like that?

2:48:22This is uh a

2:48:23company called public storage. Remember they have to A we have to put retail fifty five hundred square feet on the first floor. No, and

2:48:28I get that and

2:48:29that looks good.

2:48:32County White?

2:48:33But the county gets to approve what our facade looks like by reason of the condition we agreed to.

2:48:37And because I think the Orange Building would be a little stark. Yeah. Right?

2:48:41They get to approve the facade. So

2:48:44So take a picture of that.

2:48:45Yes,

2:48:46there you go. Staple

2:48:48it to the

2:48:52Yes, that's

2:48:53fine.

2:48:54But I think I mean that does look much better. Um

2:48:58Yes it does.

2:49:01Wrote into the conditions that they wanted to approve our facades.

2:49:05So the same would go e with let's say after three years, whatever you're gonna put it there we'll be able to look at and do the same.

2:49:11Yeah, so after three years we could have different tenants. For our retail. But we still have to orient our buildings and restrictions on where parking can be and where drive aisles can be, so that we have a social gathering area. It just allows us to have some other tenants. It's just not working that we're able to track. All the drinking and eating. And we need to be able to have some other tenants in there.

2:49:30And and as long as it can if it l have the keep of the look.

2:49:33Yes.

2:49:34Like something like this. I mean how do we Do do we have the control over that?

2:49:41Well we can add that We have to have a common color palette, we can add some architectural standards to make sure that we're consistent amongst all of our buildings.

2:49:50Yeah, like like a Champions Gate, you drive down there and come through and there's some regular retail, but it doesn't look like they're regular retail and it looks good.

2:50:05If you're ever in Sarasota you should pull out and drive through this very well designed place.

2:50:16And has a great furniture store that none of us can afford to shop in. It's the best furniture store in Florida.

2:50:26Right, that's a challenge.

2:50:28Is that where she sh she shops?

2:50:33Not me.

2:50:37I'm just warning you. You're just going to look.

2:50:50Part of the third DRI for Lake Lakewood Rangers.

2:50:54We can add a requirement for common common architectural and color scheme. We've we have some from another project. Um and so I can write language that adds that as a requirement of this. So yes, Commissioner Oakley I was driving in Champions Gate Champions Gate and I said this looks great. What why does it look great? 'Cause it's all complements each other. So And it has all different uses and but it's very complimentary. Same thing at Promenade, if you go down at Promenade, which isn't too far from here. Um

2:51:24at Promenade, which is at Curly and um Overpass. Just kind of it's got common architecture, common colors. Looks good.

2:51:33And you're looking when you drive into Fox Hollow. So the left side, there's an industrial building there. But they made it look like it's not. No, it was built into it, so wasn't it? I know I

2:51:42I know which one you're talking about.

2:51:43Oh the commercial, the

2:51:44the

2:51:44office.

2:51:46They used to make hangers

2:51:47in there. It's not industrial. It is the association. uh offices of the like door builders association or something like that.

2:51:56They used to I think they used to make something in there. But

2:51:57there's one of the hangers that was down by um Um In Penellas County. Yeah, East Lake. Yeah. That hangar one was right there. Great. Yeah.

2:52:07So I think if we get the look and go through, this this does provide a great connection for this whole area that we desperately need to have to keep it flow. I mean the f the flow's good now, but as things are being built up to the northern part. if we don't have that flow coming down. It's critical, I think, having a light that uh overpass is gonna be a a big help as well. It's gonna be needed. Uh it's just been a very important missing piece. So I I I think that staff in this conversation with the board now has actually enhanced

2:52:37it quite a bit. I think staff and the team Barbara, you and your developers have done a good job working with us to try to find a way to get this done. So I'm I'm g I'm pretty well satisfied to what I've what I've heard. So I think you guys did a good job bringing it all together. The team's done great. And this is the type of thing You know, we can't just keep on saying We gotta wait for the development to get stuff done. When you get stuff done ahead of time in timeliness, like we used to be able to do from years ago until the state legislature changed the rules, it's harder. This

2:53:07is a great, I think, opportunity for success to get the best we can possibly get out of it.

2:53:13So if you w wanted to your motion would include that we include language in the MPV conditions that require architectural materials and color, um common architectural materials and color palette is what we have from another project that you haven't seen yet.

2:53:28Okay.

2:53:31Okay, any other questions for the applicant or staff?

2:53:35No, I'm grateful that you added the one more year. Thank you very much.

2:53:39To the board.

2:53:40Uh move approval. Second.

2:53:42Second. With the note of conditions by what I just mentioned.

2:53:46Uh what and and the uh and the architectural. And the condition she

2:53:50just read?

2:53:51Yeah.

2:53:51Yeah. Okay, I'm good with it.

2:53:54And and we do have right away for the multi-use. I heard that. Okay. All right.

2:54:00All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion passes.

2:54:09You did that.