Public comment on dredging, vacation rentals, and mask mandate
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Thank you. Now's the time for public comment. Citizens are given the opportunity to comment on Any item coming before the board during this session? Or the board also takes public comment on items placed on a future board agenda. or other business under their preview. Due to COVID nineteen operations and
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COVID nineteen operations and to safeguard the well being and safety of our citizens and staff, today's public comment will be handled as follows. First, there will take public comment from those Who are in person. This includes public comment kioks. if it is necessary due to the Overflow of if we're going to be able to do If in someone shows up and prefers to speak at the kiosks and hasn't Um And
it hasn't closed yet. Next, we will take public comment from those Who have pre registered for WebEx. Um link and are currently on queue. Finally we will read into the record public comments, comments, documents PowerPoint or videos. that have been uh identified by the members of the public to be read out loud. played at the meeting or received in file. This new format does not weigh the request that when You
address the board. Comment comments are not directed personally against a commissioner or team member but rather directed at the issues. This provides respect between the Board members and the public. For WebX and Persons and in-person kiosks participants. after stating your name and address for the clerk. The an The timer will begin and activate a start countdown. After two minutes one beep will sound.
Letting you know that you have one minute. Remaining. After the time is up two beeps will sound, indicating the three minutes are up and you Should close your comments. WebEx participants will be disconnected when their time is up and kiosks participants will be asked to walk away from the kiosks. The following people have signed up to speak at in person. So Um Adam Clark will take I guess those first that are here to
speak.
Yes, sir. We have the per s first person who is signed up is uh Kostas. Mm I'm probably gonna hurt that last name, I'm sorry. Kistakis. Kistakis. Thank you.
But everyone knows him as Kostas.
Much easier, thank you.
Good morning. Good morning.
Good morning.
I think I know every single one of you up there except the newest uh commissioner. I uh submitted uh a petition. Name and address.
Name and address first.
Uh name is Costa Kestakis, uh [address removed], about a mile from here at the streets. We have submitted a petition in regards to the changes that are taking place uh uh in the intersection of Ros Lane and um Uh Little Roads. Uh or the where the VA is being built. We have gone through about a year and a half of uh many challenges
up there without anybody's knowledge. Of what was supposed to be happening. We have asked plenty of questions And it doesn't seem like anybody knows what the master plan is in the area there. Unfortunately, about uh um a week and a half ago without anybody being uh notified, anybody knowing about it.
from having access to, you know, uh little road, thus going up the street, maybe two, three lights trying to make a U-turn that is not uh you know visible. At the same time we saw what happened. and uh it's gonna present a lot of issues in the future when veterans are trying, you know, all you know, people like me trying to come out of the VA and trying to pull a A U-turn, a hundred and eighty degree turn, right on Little Road. An
impact on the traffic? I mean I don't know if you have driven, you know, lately on on Little Road. It's it's a mess. So number one, you have a VA coming out. Try to take a left. Has to make a U-turn, it's gonna cause a lot of accidents. Same thing for us. My wife works about Uh three hundred years from here. It used to take her five minutes at seven o'clock in the morning to come in the office. Right now it's
taking her fifteen minutes, a mile. House from my house to this property. is a mile away. I try to take to go um just as an example, the first you know Monday we were blocked up to fifty-four to have some blow work done. I took a right. It took me about fifteen minutes to find a place to to turn and then all the way another thirty minutes to go up on up on fifty four. We need you to take a look at it. We need
to have some, you know, knowledge of what it's potentially gonna be happening there. And we need your help. We would like also a meeting with two, three of you to sit down. Uh take a look at it. We had Uh uh Bill Rackie's office come down. I took the guy up the street, down the street, I showed them all of the issues, they agree with us. The VA cannot block a scene like that without anybody's knowledge. Thank
you.
Thank you for your comment.
The next citizen signed up is Um pastos or Pastor uh uh Troy Peterson.
Good morning. I'm Troy Peterson, [address removed]. I pastor uh Church of Brotherly Love, Hudson Beach Outreach, also the evangelist at Light of the World Tabernacle in Port Ritchie, Florida. I'm truly blessed to be networked with a group of pastors and their congregations in Pasco and nationally called Somebody Cares. I believe God has sent us here today to listen.
And to hear how we can share our resources, abilities, and wisdom with our governing authorities. We meet twice a week with a group of pastors to pray specifically for our commissioners. Hallelujah. And our governing authorities. I believe I'm here today to listen and to report on how we can specifically pray for all of you. As a pastor here in Pasco County, it is my God-given responsibility to teach the Holy Scriptures
that they're able to make us wise for uh wise and to teach us for s salvation through faith, which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction and righteousness. Why? Yeah. that the man or woman of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. We desire to be a doer of the Word of God, not just a hearer only, to be an asset to our governing
authorities, to buy servant leadership and sharing the wisdom of God and the resources that God gives us. Many pastors in this region understand that it is our responsibility To teach our congregations to serve and obey our government, according to Titus 3:1, to remind them, that is our congregations, to remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey and to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to
be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men. This is a faithful. Saying in these things God wants us to affirm constantly that those who believe in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men. It is our reasonable service unto God and to our government to avoid foolish disputes, contentions, and strivings about the law, for they are unprofitable and use useless. We hear
What we hear and what we learn here today, we will take to our prayer intercessors and pray with other pastors and leaders in our community. God will answer our prayers and he will speak to us and open doors on how we can effectively serve with our congregations the needs and requests that our commissioners have. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Um the next person signed up is Kevin Brades.
Good morning. Good morning. I just uh just come I do a uh
an address.
Yes, sir. Um first name is Kevin, last name sorry sir. Uh Brodus is last name and uh I live here in New Port Richey, [address removed]. I'm part of a outreach team here in the area and community that tries to help uh kids and families. And uh I just wanted to come today just to say thank you for allowing us to have the time here, but also just how just we just want to be a a blessing to y'all and the county commissioner and appreciate appreciate what you're all doing, but we want to be uh an active
member in helping this community and just here to serve you guys whatever needs you have that we can uh we have a team of volunteers would love to help and I just come today just to say we would love to serve in any way we can do to help you in this community. Thank you. Yeah, sure.
All right. Uh the next next um individual signed up is Charles Thomas.
Charles Thomas, [address removed]. Thank you for the opportunity to give my public comment. Um
I've had a vacation rental in Hudson since twenty fifteen. and I've been paying my state and Local taxes every cents. Uh
trolled by somebody on the internet. that uh turned me in on a Some
Mm-hmm. And what that involves is when I when you get turned in then you have to get fifty one percent of the people in your subdivision to sign a notarized letter, which means you gotta gotta go around with a notary, to get their approval for your vacation rental. And Um So th these these codes and ordinances are being weaponized. 'Cause what I've heard is I got turned in by
somebody that's over a mile away from me. And uh what they ha you know, how w why can they dictate what I can do with my property? I'm not impacting them in any way.
Uh
And if I don't cease operations, I got a 30-day notice that I'll get a five hundred dollar a day fine.
So this is not something to Just over reach. Um The next one. Here are some of the vacation rentals in Hudson. There's over a hundred and eighty. So I'm I'm just one of the things that I'm gonna do A bunch. And vacation rentals. they offer a a a great opportunity for the for the uh community. I've had guests from Sweden, England, Ireland, Uh Germany.
You know, and they haven't been able to come because of covet, but you know, as soon as they can they'll they'll be booking again.
Mm-hmm. Uh There. Vacation rentals I don't know if you've ever stayed in one, but they're they're a great opportunity to sh
Show the area. A a lot of our guests when they first gu step in, they go, Where are the good restaurants? You know, and then by the end of the stay, they're looking for what property they can buy.
And you know, vacation rentals are well maintained. They're uh guests are friendly, they enjoy the area. Many went Look for the property.
They they love the wildlife, the manatees, the otters, the Good. Birds. They love to fish. They're here to relax and deprogram and to get away.
And you know, here's one subdivision. Some of the subdivisions, the the largest I found was had three hundred and seventeen.
uh properties. That's a lot of people to get notarized letters from.
Thank you for your comment, sir.
Thank you.
All right. Um the next person signed up is William Pettit.
Name and address for the record, sir.
My name is William Pett. I live at [address removed]. I don't want to say anything right now.
Okay, thank you.
Um oh the next person signed up is uh Bob Dillinger.
I didn't sign up to speak. I'm just here for the resolution.
Thank you, sir. And I see it okay.
Okay. The next person signed up is Daniel Griso. Magriso?
My name is Daniel Grisso. I live at [address removed]. Yeah. What I wanted to talk to you about today was a hazard, a danger. We live on a uh community of canals. Which lead into the uh Double hammock creek. Channel. which, over the years, has become so shallow from the sediment coming in, that
while out there, if you're unaware of this, I've seen people come in and their boats slam into the sediment because the tide has gone out. I've seen people fall off of boats. I've seen children thrown from boats and vehicles because they're unaware of it. A lot of people come into this area to fish where we're at. And uh there's no
Of how shallow it's gotten. Uh from what I understand this was dredged out forty years ago. Uh I understand dredging was supposed to be discussed today. But it was taken off of the agenda. So what I just wanted to do was bring this to your attention, that this is not just a convenience for people. It's actually gotten hazardous. It's hard to navigate through this place. and there's hundreds of boats that come through on the weekends. And not just the residents of Westport that live there. Uh people come
from around the surrounding areas to fish there because it's great fishing back up into this uh Water Boyce Salt Springs uh Park around the waters there. So um What I'm really just wanted to do was bring to the attention of the commissioners a how bad this has gotten. And there's a lot of support, there's a lot of people here today to support this and to speak about this. Okay. Thank you for your time.
All right. Gerald uh Guillaume Pagila? Sorry. I it's hard to read the handwriting.
Gerald
Oh okay.
Name and address for the record, sir.
Hi, good morning. My name is Gerald H. Jim Paglia. Um I live at [address removed]. Um I'm here also to support any help we can get.
Uh dredged out. Uh it is a very, very hazard thing. I got stuck myself a few times. but um we'd like them to take a look at it and see if we can get any help.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you for your comments.
All right. So I'm going to um call out uh three names and if you could just line up down the aisle so that we can do one after the other. Um we'll do it in um threes so that you can properly social distance. Um I think this uh written is either Harry or Nancy Thorough. T H R O W E R Thank you. It's Nancy. All right, David uh nope, that's for the resolution. We've got Norman. Hm, Palmondo,
is that correct? Sarah Thomas Thomas.
Norman Palm I think it's Palmondon. If you could stand um in line, six feet please behind the speaker. At the podium.
All right, thank you. And then Scott Thomas, are you here to speak? Okay. Let me go to the next page. Um William Shastowick Chaskowski. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. All right. If you want my name and address painting,
thank you. Thank you. Um good morning commissioners and and staff. Thank you for all you do. My name is Nancy Thrower, [address removed]. I have copies of the comments I'm about to make regarding vacation rentals if it is your desire to receive them.
Most receivable.
Second. Okay. May I approach?
All those in favor?
Aye.
All opposed, like then. Motion passed.
Thank you. I've owned my condo at Gulf Island Beach and Tennis Club in Hudson for seven years. I'm here today to request that you begin the process to amend the current Pasco County ordinance governing vacation rentals. As you know, the current Pasco County Vacation Rental Ordinance, enacted way back in nineteen ninety nine, restricts vacation rentals to thirty days or more unless community owners file a
petition with fifty one percent owner support to change the minimum to six days instead. It would be to our whole county's benefit to update this ordinance as soon as possible, because right now Pasco County is losing out on much needed revenue. It is out of reach financially for most families to take 30 days off in a row for a summer vacation. Pasco County businesses are also missing out on tourist revenue. We
all know COVID nineteen really stressed our economy. The extra revenue generated from updating this ordinance would go a long way to helping local businesses continue getting back on their feet and then prosper going forward. Our county businesses will definitely see an increase in customers with this change as it will help extend our tourist season. Third, Investors are losing money. Many condo owners at Gulf Island and other communities purchase their
properties to enjoy themselves and use vacation rentals to help pay for them until they retire. Finally, in the spirit of local control, I have no doubts about your commitment as County Commissioner to supporting local private business. Passing an ordinance of no less than six days is sufficient to keep Condo Complexes and other associations from competing with hotels while unburdening private businesses
so all can prosper. This is truly a win win. My ask is that you change the current 30-day Pasco County vacation rental ordinance to a six-day minimum. Please empower homeowners associations and property owners with the right to propose a longer minimum stay for their own properties if they so choose. Please amend this ordinance to make it less restrictive on our personal property rights and help our
local businesses thrive. I thank you all very much for your prompt consideration on this matter and for your service to Pasco County, and may God bless you always. Thank you.
Mr. Chairman Mariano. And Madam Clerk, just um no, you're good. Um I just got a message as a reminder Uh because of the limited capacity and there's people waiting in the lobby to speak. They ask that if everybody after they speak if they could just go ahead and go out this door and go back to the lobby so they can let the next person inside to speak. Okay. Yeah, I just got that note 'cause I don't I think that was the policy that we've enacted it just we aren't doing it now. So
Thank you, Commissioner.
Okay.
You can continue to listen in the lobby if you
want. But if you're s
if
you're still gonna speak stay here, but they just wanna let the other people in to speak.
Okay. Yes, sir.
Name and address for the record.
Pardon me?
Name and address for the record. Yes.
Nam Plumondan [address removed]. I'm here basically to support on the trudging of the double hammock. Canal.
Has become a hazard. Uh the markers are falling down. We've tried to m maintain them as best as possible. Uh It should be considered and thought of And if you we've got a boat club, you're more than welcome to contact us and we can gladly be with anybody. uh take anybody out to take a look at it. Uh basically I'm I'm here basically to support my
son in law, he owns the home. uh and but he could not make the meeting. So I came here to in support for that and as well as support for the rest of the people that are here on that. Appreciate your time. Thank you very much.
All right, thank you.
Have a good day.
Yes, sir.
My name is William Shastawski Jr. I live at [address removed]. uh which is in the sea forest area. Chairman Oakley and honourable commissioners, thank you for allowing me to speak with you this morning. You know better than I Yeah, west of s State Route nineteen is a major asset that supports our being a vibrant place. a residential asset that generates premium tax revenue from home and landowners. This is
possible because of the access to the Gulf and all of its recreational opportunities made possible by residential canals. We have all read stories in local newspapers about the valuable yet affordable waterfront property existing in Pasco County. All of our canal communities contribute and economic benefit to the county. Currently, Gulf Landings Association canals are not included in the permitting discussion. It is my understanding
that the original decision to exclude Gulf Landings occurred when we were accidentally removed when the Woodlands declined to participate. Canals and Gulf landings support the county's economic base. Canals and gulf landings support the county's long term plan. Canals and Gulf landings support the county's recreational activities. Canals and Gulf landings allow the county to levy premium taxes on homes located on them. And
finally, canals and gulf landings allow the county to be a true destination location. It makes good tax policy, good economic sense, good common sense, and good political sense. to add is an amendment and to approve in the phase two permitting schedule, the inclusion of all canals and waterways in the Sea Forest area. which includes those of the Gulf Landings Association, I urge you
to make this amendment. Finally, the I wish on a personal note to thank you for allowing me in the to participate three years ago in the PASCO Citizens Academy. I learned a lot about Pasco County, the least of which is that a vibrant community needs involved citizens. See what you created. Thank you and God bless you for all that you do for Pasco County.
Thank you for your comments.
All right, um the next uh person signed up is Jade Archball.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Okay.
Well, are they staying in the room?
Um would you like m uh Mr. Chair, if did you like for her to view the uh proceedings in the lobby or she said that she doesn't want to speak.
Oh should Ed Waller speak?
Correct.
Okay.
So I don't I'm asking the board they people that are speaking.
I think this is for people that are speaking, right? Yeah.
Is she here
for the petition? Um I don't believe so. I mean the uh resolution. Ms. Archbold, are you here for the resolution? Okay.
What's the board's pleasure?
Do you still have a list?
I I do. I
feel she needs to move to the lobby. What do you guys think?
How many people are left in the lobby that need to come in?
One, two, three, four, five.
Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty. I have twenty one left.
Yeah, twenty one that's gonna
speak that's signed up. I have no idea if they're speaking or not, but they're signed up
on the list. Let's make a decision. I feel they should move to the lobby and so the people who are gonna speak and come in. Does anyone agree? Well
we
gotta
hear these twenty right here signed up. You got twenty here that's gonna sign up and move out so they can come in.
I know I think this person who doesn't want to speak needs to move.
Are we
all speak up?
Are all twenty one in here? Or
Yeah, twenty one right in here.
So do we have anyone else?
No one else is in the lobby, then
Okay. Oh oh I see what you're saying. Okay.
Then she can stay.
No more.
Okay.
No more, okay.
All right, uh so the next person signed up, I have Anne Corona.
And then the next person after her is Mrs. Uh Chuckis and Mr. Chuckis.
Justin. I need to line up.
I don't have a first name on them. They're not here.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. Corona. If you'd like to go ahead and state your name and address
for the record.
Thank you.
Good morning. Anne Corona, [address removed]. Good morning, Commissioners. I want to also extend to you a thank you for your courtesy in meeting with myself and residents of Tanglewood East. I'm here actually today to speak more about the explosive growth in Pasco County. Spe specifically the trend toward massive multifamily development, which has accelerated in the past year. I consider this to be exponential growth posing an existential
threat, a threat concerned with or involving human existence in this county. Of course, I cannot overlook the impending threat looming over my community, Tanglewood East, or have lived on nearly four acres for four decades. The looming disaster of Four four-story structures between two rural residential neighborhoods, literally blocking the sun, producing constant mechanical noises, numerous garbage dumpsters drawing rodents, the noise of up to 1,000 residents and years of construction vehicles, as well as the tearing up of our
roads, will be intolerable. Setting aside that particular issue, allow me to address the effect of on the county of these millennials. Multifamily projects. We can further factor in the overdevelopment of 54 with massive residential communities. Packed with homes and arms with the heart. When we moved to Pasco forty years ago, fifty four was beautiful green land, farms, pastures, grazing cattle, pastoral settles settings, I'm sorry. Now, where's the beef? Aside from the occasional patches of rent a
cows placed there to afford landowners tax break, there are none. Commissioner Oak Building yourself into extinction. I do nothing in Pasco because of the traffic. Um On the ground level, it's traffic. But where are these people going to be working? I would like to dispel what I call the Moffat myth. Compared to the growth that is occurring, the number of jobs created will be minuscule, certainly not enough to make significant impact. Additionally, one must assume that everyone that re relocates
has um is medically trained. Moving on to overcrowding of schools, there's no possible way for the system to efficiently keep pace with the influx, students will suffer.
Addressing the overburden of government services, the Sheriff's Office, Sheriff Nako has repeatedly voiced his concerns about the continued construction of mass projects. The citizens will suffer due to increased response time. Why would anyone want to visit or move to an area that looks exactly like where they are trying to get away from? We constantly preach about our tourist appeal. I'm reinforcing the fact that with this exponential growth of multifamily apartments You are building yourself
into extinction. As the Northeast has done. As Commissioner Moore said, we have to sit back and see what impact these on paraphrasing paraphrasing, sorry, multifamily apartments are going to have because we can't just think about today. Five years from now, ten years from now, we think about twenty years from now and the impact they will have on our area. The moratorium should be continued throughout the entire county. Thank you.
Thank you.
So um I will call the um Mrs. Uh Chukis and Mr. Chuckis.
And they're not out in the lobby?
No.
All right. Um Kim Wilder. Robert Crawley.
I um I won't be speaking uh um I'm just here in support of the uh dredging of the uh hazardous canal.
Okay. Um Uh I think it's Miriam. I can't r uh read the handwriting. Um, Hagar Rump. Hagger Rup.
Mm-hmm.
Mariano Mariano Hagerump. Okay.
William Um
S Z.
Yes. How do you say that?
Wow, these names are so hard for me. I'm so sorry. Thank you. I appreciate it. And then Elizabeth Statzer. I think I got that one right. All right. Ma'am, if you don't mind um stating your name and address for the record.
Yeah, I didn't want to touch it because I don't know.
That's okay. Good morning. My name is Kim Wilder and I live at [address removed]. I am a resident of the Westport Subdivision on the Gulf Coast in Pascoo County. The Westport Subdivision is located between Gulf Harbor and Hudson and is surrounded by the Warner Boy Salt Springs State Park. Double Hammett Creek is the main channel into our subdivision. Since Westport was established in the seventies and eighties, there have been multiple
storms that have filled the Channel, making it near impossible to navigate at low tide. The more recent event that has impacted our waterway was the BP oil spill. This has trapped many residents from getting back to their homes due to the settlement that has built up over the years. The sediment builds build up also inhibits first responders from rescue operations in and around the channel, if any, should arise. Making this a
life safety issue. Since the BP Oil Spill a settlement was made and the Restore Act was created. These funds given to states and local counties was meant to mitigate some of the issues arising from the oil spill in and around waterfront communities. I do applaud the commission for taking action in developing a plan for dredging operations. However, I feel the fund should be divided equally amongst all waterfront communities
and not just the affluent neighborhoods. The Westport residents are all taxpayers and would like to see a plan that includes our waterways being cleared. We would like this for our safety and to be able to enjoy the boating li lifestyle that we all moved to Westport for. Again, my name is Kim Wilder from the Westport Subdivision and thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Ah you might
Hi, my name is William STEM. I live at [address removed] in the Westport Subdivision. I'd like to turn in some pictures, six of 'em, for our area. This is my property right here, where I am literally fifty percent dry in low tide. the sun, when it bakes during the summertime, mostly the odor and smell is absolutely nauseating. I we get s we get sick, we don't go outside to use our pool that we've had redone. It's a house that was a foreclosure and re redid
it to be able to have the life to be able to go outside and use the waterways. Um Just all of our canals. I mean our we have tons of Shoals, rocks Um we've had neighbors that have bought new boats and end up with $7,000 in damage, tearing out their lower unit. We're just trying to hopefully get on the book on the books so we can have people Come in, take a look at our properties and be able to fix it. My other neighbor I'm talking for a little bit is
Thomas Howell at [address removed]. His property is the other side of my canal. I'm on the end. But I am literally fifty percent dry and I'm getting no help. No matter who we talk to. That's it. Thank you guys.
Move to receive and file.
I'd like to put these yes, I'd like to put these six pictures in.
Second. Okay.
You
can hand it to the
motion to second. All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Aye. Thank you.
Want to give them the commissioner?
All right. Um the next person signed up I did call was um Mariana Hagerump.
It
was pretty good.
Elizabeth Statzer.
Uh
All right. Um new new names that I'm calling out are Mike Armani Marge Englman. Judy Patton.
And so no one uh Mike Armani Marge Engelman. All right. Ms. Patton, if you don't mind. If you m uh state your name and address for the record.
Hi, my name is Mar Jengelman. I am at [address removed]. Um I am here to talk about the dredging. Um I am gonna presume that the amendment be amended to include um golf landings. Uh I'm going to assume that this was an oversight when the amendment was written that we were not excluded on purpose. Um it is important for all our waterways, just for the marine life. and for the constant flow of water for flooding. that we be included
in this Um Dredging and I know you're took it off the table today 'cause you're looking for funding. Um, As commissioners, I would hope that you're looking at the bigger picture and looking at the whole area and what we can do to improve our marine life. That's it. Just please include golf landings. Thank you.
Thank you.
All right. Um I previously called Mike Armani, Marge Engelman. Still don't see them. Um the next names are Michael Patton.
Missy Is it Hanny? David How a well.
Thank you.
Hi, I'm Michael Patton and I'm at [address removed] Uh we moved to Florida permanently. About a year and a half ago. We bought this house because of the view. And it's a beautiful view. Yeah. We find out we can't get out on the water half the time because the water is so low and it's so dread Dirty, it stinks, it really does. All I want as a taxpayer. Just to get some help, get some support, and
clean out our canals and clean our way out so we don't have to worry about getting stuck. And I hear it all the time and it upsets me unbelievable. I'm paying money. People are coming here are paying money. Taxes are being paid. We're getting nothing out of it. That's how I feel. And I'm getting emotional about it and I'm sorry. But that's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you.
Yes ma'am.
And then name and address for the record and then may begin.
Hi there, my name is Missy Hanney. I'm at [address removed] in Southern Oaks. I just want to say that this is my first visit and this will not be my last. Um I want please know that the community is now awake and we are here to stay involved and pay attention. to your actions regarding issues in Pasco County. We are going to make you accountable and we are not going away. I am embarrassed to have you as
our county commissioners. Each and every one of you had ignored my voicemails and emails regarding the mask mandate. each one of you have failed me and the citizens of Pasco County. You are elected officials, which also means you can be unelected officials. You work for We the People and you are here to listen and respond back to our concerns in a timely manner and not ignore the citizens. Was that part of your campaign as a commissioner?
Vote for me and I will ignore you in the issue that you are concerned about? We have not forgotten what you did. You all have a choice to be a good commissioner or a bad commissioner. You know the old saying, you know better, you do better. You swore an oath on a Bible with no mouse on last year. It's on video. I hope you start now to hear your community And your community will ensure that you are never voted in again. We know when you are up for re-election and
if you are not there for your community, you will be replaced. Right now you are seen as rules for thee and not for me. I urge you to listen and learn from the citizens and to do a better job. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
You don't have a math memory, by the way.
Yes, my name is David Hollowell. Over in [address removed], um Westport community. I'm just following up and I don't want to repeat what everybody else has said. But uh I've been here for 10 years and my real reason for it is I know that Pasco has a problem getting the water across Little Road, 19, and that was one of the issues of opening the canals, trying to get the canals up. open in order for that water to flow out, not
just to dredge our canal for us, but it's also for the flooding purposes, because that water comes across, can't get across, we get a tide, we're in stuck in the middle of it. And that's been going on for years since the no name storm. I wasn't here then, but I've seen it a couple of times and I see what they have the what the problem that they have. They have a problem with getting the water across Little Road in 19 to get the water to the Gulf, because that's where it's all gotta go. So that's really why I want the canal to get dredged in my part. So that's pretty much all I have to
say. Thank you.
All right, the uh next individual signed up Deborah Leone, David Graham, Sandra Gordon.
Good morning and thank you for allowing us to uh speak today. Uh my name is Deborah Leone, [address removed], and I live in the Gulf Harbor's woodlands. Uh uh uh neighborhood. So uh currently Gulf Harbor's Woodlands is in the process of attempting to dredge two canals that were not part of the overall Pasco plan. Uh we actually sent a presentation in um including the latter and uh drainage uh maps for both our neighborhood and Gulf Landing. There's
been discussion incorporating part of our canals in the countywide dredge plan, and I also understand there was talk of possibility excluding non-exempt areas from the plan. So back in 2019, some members of our association met with Commissioner Mariano and some county employees. And uh to kind of discuss uh where we might go with dredging. Uh following that meeting, the association reached the cost uh researched the costs for doing its own dredging as it preferred not to be part of an MSBU with all the additional administrative
costs that go along with an MSBU. As a result, We passed a budget line item in 2020 for $100,000. We spent $13,000, had a hydrological survey done of all of the canals that affect Gulf Harbor's woodlands. Some of them are shared canals with Gulf Landings. In no way were did we ask or expect the County Commission to not include Gulf Landings. It was just we wanted to know what to expect should we have to reserve money uh to dredge our own canals.
Uh nothing against the commissioner or the county, but we've seen a lot of studies and no dredging. And what happens is in 2009 we did a very small dredge actually on a shared canal. And uh it did alleviate some of that problem, but that problem is back and it's ten years later. And the more shallow it gets, the more of a collection point. So there will be a point in time very shortly that Gulf landings, sea forests, and the woodlands probably won't be able to use that portion of the canal to get out. And that's the main area to get out. So
uh Actually uh we have requested uh funds from the county. Uh Our cost right now to do two canals that are no longer that are not part of the plan is $170,000. Uh we have eighty-five thousand of that. Uh we've asked the the uh county commission to uh consider matching our funds to complete the dredging. We've looked at stormwater funds, restore funds, funds that may be used to add us
to the plan, any discretionary funds you may have. If you look at the maps, you'll see there's a direct correlation between drainage, and where we have the problem areas in our canals. So we're asking also to look forward to mitigating future stormwater discharge contamination. Thank you.
Thank you.
Were those maps given to us?
Uh I I emailed that yesterday to all the commissioners and to the thank you.
Okay. Yes, ma'am.
Hello, Commissioners. Thank you. Um, I'm here. My name is Sandra Gordon. I live at [address removed]. I'm here just as Mr. Costas was about the entrance to Ross Lane. We were understanding that there was gonna be a light, but We would like that, but if this curving is going to stay there There's an issue with narrowness and if you have a boat or any trailers or anything you're pulling behind, it's too
narrow to turn onto our street. You will have to cross the curbing to do it. And that makes me wonder about fire trucks coming in. Are they gonna be able to get in and out? I think it needs to be looked at and we're asking for you to help us go back and look at that entrance. Also I have a concern, I understand there is a retail section coming in to the north. and apartments to the north. I'm a s that's what's on the plans, I understand. And they've got it opening out onto Ross Lane. We
only have the one way out. King Haley would be a better entrance for those properties. And I'm asking you to consider that, look at the plants, ask them to go in and out at King Healy with the light rather than emptying them. Out on Taross Lane. With us with the VA. And that's why I'm here today and I thank you for your attention.
Thank you for your comments.
All right. Um I called previously David Graham.
All right, next up, Elliot Steele, Mary Lou Vogel, and Brian Paris.
Elliot Steele, Mary Lou Vogel, Brian Paris.
Is that all the ones on your list?
Two more. more. Um,
and next is
a
So the are the other two are gonna speak then? To Brian Per for Brian Perry?
I'm sorry, I called um Mary Lou Vogel uh uh Elliot Steele I believe that was the one okay. Mary Lou Vogel and Brian Paris.
Yeah yeah you said two people before me, I was just making sure they weren't gonna speak before.
Okay, sorry. That's all I was on. Come on up. Okay.
Yeah, my name is Brian Paris. Um [address removed]. Uh before I respond to why I came, I want to respond to these vacation home, rich, entitled people. Um this is a local town. If you don't live here full time, sorry for your you know, oh well. Take w no one's begging you guys to be here. You know, you guys have been pushing locals out for a long time. And there's a lot of locals that are born and raised here that can't even find a home. So Just because you have a little second home or
third home, whatever you have, you know, oh well, boo hoo. Anyway. But now to the we the people of the repo constitutional republic who I've been talking to for a little while Um A lot of them are very upset the way you guys have governed. Not just you guys in general, but but yeah, yes, definitely some of you guys, obviously locally, but just the way the elected officials have treated this we the people, the Constitutional Republic during this China virus lockdown and all this China virus stuff. You
know, a lot of people are woke. They're assembling and they plan on either voting you out or assembly peacefully through the Constitution of the United States to remove whoever is been governing against the Constitution. And also to the police I I I respect I always pray for our our our police, our sheriffs, but some of 'em been uh acting unconstitutionally. I've even cr hit up the sheriff's office to speak about this. And they've been un they don't
want to respond. What's weird is we're also a county that is number two or three in a state in human trafficking, but yet they're worried about coming after a disabled veteran because he refuses to wear a mask and wants to exercise his First Amendment right and his seventh amendment right. And since I can't speak at other places I'm going to speak here. No matter who you are, any elective it's weird that only one person on this seat is being investigated and none of the rest
of you guys are. It's so weird. The guy that's been mostly fighting for the people. Against the mask mandate is the only one under investigation. I find it odd.
Thank you for your comments. Yeah. Sure, you have any more listed or
um Mary Lou Vogel, which I called before, and then Janine Dombrowski and Kathy Last name is hard to z um I can't hardly say it. Jule Jul Julian?
Hi, my name is Janine Dombrowski, but you all know that. My address is [address removed] s pay attention to the United States. In order to form the perfect union. Establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, love that word, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings, they come from God, of liberty, so
does that, to ourselves. And our posterity to ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. See the difference between the United States, we the people, and the Constitution four? The United States of America. I think we just all need a another education in the Constitution. So we're gonna start and do this slowly. A
couple definitions. A republic. A republic is a commonwealth, a state at which the exercise of the sovereign power is lodged in the representatives elected by the people. Republican. Is a self-governing forum wherein a free, sovereign, moral, and enlightened people guarantee to one another.
and to all minorities the right and obligation to have, retain, and protect each other's God given common rights to life, freedom, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. In their separate capacities, as free inhabitants andor as free sovereign people within a nation, state, nation-state,
and/or a country, all by positively accepting the oaths. as recipients of the oaths of their servants holding public office. Now, democracy. To possess to govern a form of government. In which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of the people collectively, or in which the people exercise the powers of legislation. I just want to make clear:
like, what is a Republican and what is a Democrat. You all claim to be Republicans, so you really need to sit on these words. Um, because yes, we will be holding you accountable. Um also
the mass glitter problem, something needs to be done. We wanna know what's being done, what the costs are gonna be. Um it's not good for our environment, it's not good for the waterways that everybody likes to talk about today, it's not good for the the animals that are in there, they're laden with chemicals, it's being absorbed into our soils. So we just wanna know what's being done there. Um I'm really grateful though that you have the in-person meetings. This uh it makes us all very happy. Um, but I also can't leave here today without
discussing also the building on fifty-four and how many people really are upset about it. I know my time is up. Um and the focus should be, yes, on the dredging. Um where we live in town off of 19. There's a lot of low income ho housing. Thank you for your comments. I will be back. Thank you.
Thank you. Now if anyone else is in the room that didn't get signed up, please come to the podium and the others uh that want to speak today line up behind her. Thank you.
Hi, my name is Kathy Julian and um you have my address on record. I was told that we didn't have it. Your name I didn't call was the last one on the list. I just couldn't read the last name. I understand. Nobody ever gets my name right, which seems very simple. Well no,
it's simple. I just now I can see it, but before I couldn't. Thank you.
Um I I was planning to come and talk about the fact that you didn't less on the meeting, because that's what I read online. But I see you've resolved that issue, so Good job. Um the other thing is I was going last week to um Uh they do these drive-through parades for the graduation. So my daughter's graduating from Pasco e School in the next couple weeks. and we went out to the one in Wesley Chapel, an area of the county I'd never been to before. And holy Comole the construction
going on out there. I know people complain about the construction going on on fifty four, but you guys built the infrastructure before you did the building of the houses. that area out there in Wesley Chapel, oh my gosh, I live off of Moon Lake Road. And the road that accesses that looks like Moon Lake Road. And I know what we went through with Moon Lake Road. when they built all the houses out there, which is a very small subset of what's being built out in Wesley Chapel from the looks of it. And I mean our neighborhood has an access that's not off
of Moon Lake Road, which was nice, but wow, I can't imagine. How are they Why are they building all these houses without the structure? There's no I mean maybe there's roads I didn't see. But I didn't see 'em on the Google Maps either. So that's scary to me. And um like I said, I'm not against Additional construction. Obviously people have property rights. They have the right to do what they want to do with their prote their thing, but 54 should be the model for new construction, not what's going on out in Wesley Chapel.
Thank you for your time. Have a great day.
Thank you for your comments. So is there anyone left that would like to speak? I see no one coming forward. Is anyone at the kioks?
There is nobody here at the kiosk.
All right, thank you. Now we'll go to WebEx. Do we have anyone online?
No sir. Um one of the individuals that have pre-signed up was uh present.
Oh okay. All right, so we'll go to email.
Okay. How
many emails do we have today?
I don't know exactly. Um we have a lot. Um So I have to do that. Duplicate emails that I'd like to go through first if that's okay where um it was the same um verbatim was written on each of the emails so I can go through and do the um name and address on each of those and then read the statement from them and then we have other emails that um are all different.
Okay.
Okay.
All right
Okay.
So I'm gonna go through and do the names and address of those that um submitted an email and it was um the same.
Okay. We have Andrew and Lisa Vilicana. Address is [address removed].
Brian Fasson. [address removed].
Doanna Thurkill? And address is uh [address removed].
Six three I'm sorry, let me do the name first. Vincent Um Azu, A-Z-Z-U-E. Address is [address removed].
And we have Andrew and Lisa Uh Via Cana. At [address removed].
We have James and Lisa Mancuso and their address is [address removed].
Todd Hef, President Coast Um Coast Life Housing Lifestyle Additions at 6212 Spoonbill Drive, New Port Richey, Florida, three four six five two.
We have uh Christopher Hayden. Um [address removed]. Mark Antina Emerson.
Address is [address removed].
There's my other list.
Linda Gear, [address removed].
Robert Sprout at [address removed]. Rick Hug Um Hugget at [address removed]. Dennis O'Hare, [address removed]. Sergio Vasquez, [address removed], Jonathan L. Rom.
[address removed]. Chris Reisinger, [address removed]. Jonathan Shepard, [address removed]. Jeff Caradona, [address removed]. Brett Liddick at
[address removed]. Sharon Evans. [address removed], Cindy Buck. Um [address removed]. Maria Littock, [address removed].
Uh uh
first name is M-E-L-C-H-I-O-R-R-A. Kepner. Um address is [address removed].
Um Tarica and last name is G-O-R-D-O-N-Z-A-C-H-E-R-Y. Address is [address removed]. Cindy Bell, [address removed]. Jane Petty. [address removed]. Um Ica Lane?
[address removed]. Steve Early, [address removed]. E. J. Strauss, Uh three four I'm sorry, [address removed], Anthony Ferreni. Um [address removed]. Janet Lynn and Joe uh John Michael McGuire.
[address removed]. Thomas Hayworth. [address removed].
My apologies on the last one I just read. Um he actually sent in a separate um a separate letter I'll be reading shortly. All right, next one is Lori Taylor, uh [address removed]. Joseph Nifo. Uh [address removed] Lorena. Um
L L E W E L L Y N [address removed]. Irene Anderson, [address removed]. Stacy LaFrance, [address removed]. Andrew, Papa Michael. [address removed]. Martin F E O
R E R O [address removed]. James Hayden, [address removed]. Uh Dennis Gruden. [address removed], Michael Kubala. Five six three one.
Mike Ballis had a letter in?
Annunciate that better. Five [address removed]. Michael Bouquet, [address removed]. Jim and Deborah uh Toth. [address removed]. Thomas Bell, [address removed]. Fred Gruden. [address removed]
[address removed], Jennifer Adam Mexkey. A D A M C Z E W S K I [address removed], Scott Penlin. [address removed], JW and Beth Bailey. [address removed]. Anthony Justice, [address removed],
[address removed]. Um Less than a little bit. And then the last name is E-X-Z-A-B-E, [address removed].
Beth Hinton. [address removed], Colleen Wilson, [address removed]. Thomas Collins, [address removed], Ronald and Kelly Bates. [address removed],
[address removed], Emy Holliday. [address removed] Robin Martin Uh [address removed], [address removed]. Um Steve Crothers. Um Mary Crothers was in person and got to speak. Five five eight five Joe Bath Drive, New Port Richey [address removed]. Richard Fogg. [address removed]
[address removed]. All right. So those are the um duplicate emails and I will read their statement.
Dear Pasco Commissioners, I reside. Oh, we already did those addresses. I request Pasco County Board of County Commissioners add an amendment and approval by the Board of County Commissioners to include all the canals and waterways in the Sea Forest area, which includes Gulf Landings Association, to be included in the phase two permitting that is scheduled for May 18th, 2021 BOCC meeting. Meeting, I request my email to be read and entered into the record of the May eighteenth, twenty twenty one Board of County Commissioners.
Okay.
One moment please.
Well maybe you got that one.
I don't know.
Sorry. I have these left.
All right.
Mr. Sherrill? Mr. Sorry. And this and this I'm just this is just a sorry, let me sit down. I'm just thinking about some of the folks that are in the audience right now. They're here for a a a specific resolution that was time certain. Um is there any possible way if no if nothing when it comes to the emails are related to the resolution coming up that We could go forward with the resolution and come back if there's no emails speaking of reference to the resolution.
Mr. Chairman M if None of the emails r regard the resolution. Yep. In fact, if none of the emails regard things that are currently on your consent agenda, you can move forward with that. and then take public comment at any point in Any point in the in the day that you wish to. So if you wanna if you wanna get a little bit more than a little bit of a Done with your morning agenda and then come back to public comment so long as the public comment is not Right. Addressing your consent agenda or the
resolution, you can do your
own we don't have dredging on our agenda today.
I just w I would love to see them be able to move forward and