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Jack MarianoChair

anyone here from the Sheriff's Office? Other are bailiff. Oh yeah. Okay. Um got a couple items. Um Commissioner Starkey just passed this over to me, which I've passed this on to uh Colleen and she's been working on it. Uh some of the grants uh that are out there to the feds.

Put stars next to them. Good.

It's the breakdown of climate energy and funding opportunities for counties. Um and again I've talked to Andrew and Eric Artie, but there's a couple on there that just showed. Uh she says investing in coastal communities and climate resilience Um it's through NOAA. two point six billion dollars. Uh grants for conservation and restoration of coastal and marine habitats and resources. Jocelyn, you got that? All right. There's another one for urban and community

forest forestry assistance. grants for tree planning and related activities. One of 'em could be as far as a a trail goes along Sun West. We had that fire there a few years ago that got From the trees in the Swift Mud property? Cross the road on Old Dixie into Sea Pines. Um there's a trail and I think there's federal if you tie it all the way up to uh Cheskowitsu Preserve. If you go all the way up there, you could even t pick a federal tie-in for two, so more opportunities, but tremendous

funding opportunities that are out there. Yeah. As we talked about. Um And Commissioner Starkey, it's funny you mention about your uh uh Odessa project. Um About a month ago or so. I think we're we're here and we had a uh hearing on a gentleman on New York Avenue. Wanted to put a piece of pro property up going from uh what it was zoned to put in residential apartments, et cetera. And I says, no, I don't want to see that. He hadn't met with me. Uh I met with the neighbor property and the property after that as well. They're all looking to go to a C

one, C two, which is the same as was to the north. So from Utica uh which is the end property where there are some apartments on the other side from that road all the way over to diagonal on New York Avenue. I think there's a great opportunity to take that whole thing. And bring it all to C one, C two. It's gonna take a comprehensive plan and amateur change and then a zoning change to make both those happen.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

What's in C one?

Jack MarianoChair

See one you can do

Unidentified speakerVoice A

it's your neighborhood commercial uses, I think. So maybe.

Jack MarianoChair

residential office.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

We

Jack MarianoChair

don't

Unidentified speakerVoice A

That's comprehensive plan

Jack MarianoChair

was comprehensive plan. Well so that's why I say we could do both. So you got ROR out there, so what what they can do there is not what we really want to see out there and with all the stuff going on to the other side of New York Av, if that big industrial park comes. So I'm I'll make a motion that we look at adjusting the comprehensive plan in the zoning Uh from Utica Drive. uh to Diagonal Drive along New York Avenue, mid-make it board initiated. I can't actually make the motion. Would someone do that?

Ron OakleyVice Chair

I don't Robert's rule says you can.

Jack MarianoChair

Okay. But

Ron OakleyVice Chair

wait a minute, wait a minute, wait.

Jack MarianoChair

I'm making a motion. I can second a motion. I can't make a motion. Is

Kathryn Starkey

that how things like that happen?

Mike Carballa

Set Robert's rule, what he can do. Would it maybe be helpful if we saw a map or maybe

Kathryn Starkey

has he talked with the planning department and has they worked all that out? Why don't we have them bring it back to

the easement?

And we went and talked to the neighborhood. We had neighborhood meetings.

Jack MarianoChair

So Terry, bring an item back for that?

Ron OakleyVice Chair

Um can

Kathryn Starkey

you

Jack MarianoChair

From diagonal.

Yeah. To the south part. There's a lot of R O R that's in there?

Right.

Yeah you just had it.

Kathryn Starkey

Oh.

Jack MarianoChair

Right there. So you'd you'd rather some residential on the side? probably New York and New York gets everything over to the side. It's all Should be commercial anyway, all the way to diagonal. On the south side.

Kathryn Starkey

So um

Amy Heiler

So the um

Kathryn Starkey

I don't know if you want to talk about what we went through briefly since we're what What time is it? Um, about how we did that gun in fifty four, 'cause we did a lot of community stuff.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

What? Yes, uh Nektar Speedhouse Planning Development, the Gun and Fifty Four project, also known as the Odessa Town Center. Um was a kinda is a kind of initiated project where Uh we met with the community first and the uh I think it was the Sarkey Ranch Public Library. Um or the uh the TLC.

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah, don't get me going.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

The learning center, I think.

At at the library, n nonetheless. We met with the community there and um we gathered their input on the on the on the project. Um went back uh did a number of uh planning exercises on it, did some feasibility studies, then took those results back to the community, got further input and feedback from the community on those results. made the re the refinements that we did and then pieced together the sub-area policy and the necessary map changes that needed to happen in the comprehensive plan and

then engaged in the public hearing process. To bring that to fruition.

Jack MarianoChair

This is not nearly that dramatic a project, not that flashy a project. If you look if you pull that map back up again On the northern part you've got CMEX, heavy industrial. You've got a stow a towing two towing places, a storage unit, I mean there's not a whole lot of fluff and flair here. There's some affordable housing apartments on the other side down there. I'm just trying to take out we don't put apartments in there. I don't want to see any retail in there necessarily. If something comes in, so be it. Uh but this this one person wants to come in and build some nice warehouse spaces for

companies to be able to come in.

Kathryn Starkey

So

Jack MarianoChair

another one another one will come in and do uh even storage with some office. Or some other facilities in there. Something that's gonna create jobs.

Kathryn Starkey

Um so people in in the Odessa town center don't have to do comply with what we just did. It's voluntary, first of all. And second, we didn't do it Um I mean Some We weren't trying to cover a cost for someone who was coming in for a project. We were trying to do good planning. In a sec uh in an area I don't know what the correct term is

So I don't know. Are these guys planning on coming in to change it?

Jack MarianoChair

Well that's my point. The first one came in, had met with me before, and I know the guy beside him wanted to do something.

Because the other guy that comes beside him, he wants to come in and do something. He needs a full change on both ends. Well he can come

Aggie Purrington

pay for it.

Jack MarianoChair

Well let

Aggie Purrington

me just continue if I could.

Jack MarianoChair

So you've got one gentleman that came in that was gonna get denied, he decided to continue rather than get denied. So we try to work with him and we couldn't meet with him. I'm I met with him. The other one beside him he says, I'm looking at going to do this, what do you think we'll think about that? I says, Well if you come in and do that that actually fits a lot better. And then that'll help

more compatible with him. And then the other guy to the other side. Wants to do something with with heavy let's say a C two commercial as well. So I've got three parcels out of five just along New York Avenue. Never mind if I get the other parcels to the side pulled in, I can make this a whole quadrant that'll be C two j C two C one, C two generating and create jobs right where we want 'em to be.

Kathryn Starkey

Well why not go from diagonal to Um

all the way over and do the whole area.

Jack MarianoChair

comprehensive plan use and zoning changes to make it happen to create jobs from what they've got, it'll take away the apartment pressure. And make something happen. So we can look at the whole area, I'm good with that too.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

And the idea is to go from ROR to ROR O R

Jack MarianoChair

to a

Ron OakleyVice Chair

I L is the industrial future land use.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

Yeah, you don't want to go heavy in there.

Jack MarianoChair

No, but yeah, we can go I I L, that's good.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

I L would be. Yeah.

Kathryn Starkey

Which begs the question, where are we on the um Planning. Um exercise that we're gonna have on the form based code because we wouldn't have to do any of this. That's not necessarily true. Yeah, yeah. Not not exactly, but it just doesn't beg that question. Are

Mike Carballa

we I'm I'm working with Frank now. We we texted a little bit, I guess when I finally reached out to him, he was traveling, he's back in town now, and so we're we're working on setting something up.

Kathryn Starkey

Okay, great.

Jack MarianoChair

Okay. So my last two items, uh the Shrimp and Crab Festival is coming up March three to five.

Kathryn Starkey

What

Jack MarianoChair

is

Kathryn Starkey

what is

the Shrimp and Crab Festival is the shrimp crap. Should be should be good up there.

Jack MarianoChair

Uh Snipe size, I got it.

And then uh After we go up, I will be uh working on the scalloping as well, uh as we hear more and more about it. it.

Developing, trying to get the season opened up, yep. yes. Uh oh

Ron OakleyVice Chair

yeah.

Jack MarianoChair

I've been

Ron OakleyVice Chair

talking to uh The E there with with them. Yes, the three other things. And talking to them about length Lengthen the season. And I don't believe we have the ability to lengthen the season because they're afraid if they lengthen it. you kill out more of of the seed for that makes the next season good. And so you gotta we just gonna have to stay with a ten day season it looks like right now.

Jack MarianoChair

Well being that we're talking about it, I will tell you the data shows that compared to citrus and Hernando, our numbers are stronger and better. Yeah.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

And people go take 'em out and don't have enough seed left to make it flourish and come back the next year.

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah, I I I would agree with Commissioner Oakley. I mean I think we need to get a boat ramp.

Jack MarianoChair

And again after twenty years of not being able to do it. Scullop and now just getting started on it. Uh those scallops die in the year anyway, right?

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah, yeah they do. The a scallop dies, but we do need that seed.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

They they leave seed there, so

Kathryn Starkey

um I would I would wanna wait and see what Hernando and Citrus look like n next year because it was so bad this last year. They need to recover and eggs and will get slaughtered every Everybody will be in our area and will get picked out.

Jack MarianoChair

I I heard this past year, success was

Ron OakleyVice Chair

Mike

Kathryn Starkey

has

Jack MarianoChair

something to say.

Ron OakleyVice Chair

I understand. I heard the same thing. But they say if you lengthen your season you could kill it out then not end up again without a season. You don't want to end up without a season. Well

Mike Carballa

if I could add add to that, Mr. Chair, Commissioner Oakley, the Yeah, I mean that's that's exactly their their fear. They don't wanna just go in and and just extend the season without some study behind it. So they they've asked, you know, we we do perhaps have some tourist money that we can spend to initiate a study that can provide some science behind it and then see what really what the right number is.

Jack MarianoChair

All right, you know what? Let's let's do that. As a matter of fact, Adam and I had talked about that, so we'll bring it bring it to TC, bring it forward and do a study. Uh but we need me we need to expedite that real quick.

Kathryn Starkey

But eventually I do want to lengthen it. I mean, Well

Jack MarianoChair

I understand.

Kathryn Starkey

I just want them to be better.

Jack MarianoChair

We want it

Kathryn Starkey

to last,

Jack MarianoChair

not to just lengthen and not last. Yeah. We'll work at getting the data in place. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well folks, that's all I have. Mr. Chairman Mariano Bradford.

Gary Bradford

Yeah. I just wanna uh stop on everything we all can agree on when it comes to Washington. You print it. come.

Go get it. Yeah, yeah, they'll be on it.