General Fund and Transportation Trust Fund millage rates
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Okay, in accordance with Florida statute two zero zero point zero six five, the first issue to be discussed is the recommended millage rates and the percentage changes from the rollback rates.
Chairman, members of the board, the aggregate millage rate as advertised on the trim notices was 9.8683 MLs, which represents a 1.37% increase from the aggregate rolled back rate of 9.7350 MLs. The reason the aggregate millage rate is higher is because the total taxable value increased between last year and this year, generating additional revenue. Revenue levied for the same millage rate. Table one in your handout shows the millage rates for the various county levies and a comparison
of the recommended millage rates to the rollback rates and the prior year adopted millage rates. Rather than read this chart into the record, we have provided copies to each commissioner, board records, and members of the audience. Tonight I would like to ask the Commission to adopt the tentative millage rates in total budget. The millage rates adopted tonight are the maximum allowed by Florida law without mailing each property owner an additional notice. The board can reduce the millage rates tonight through the final hearing on September sixteenth, however
the millage rate cannot be increased. Later in the meeting, should the commission wish to modify the budget. We ask that staff be directed to return on September 16th at the final public hearing with the desired amendments. I'd like to give a summary of the General Fund and the Transportation Trust Fund budgets, stating the tentative millage rates, the percentage change from the rolled back rate, and the reasons for such a change. The tentative millage rate for the general fund is 7.4292 MLs, which
is a 3.92% increase from the rolled back rate of 7.1489. The tentative millage rate is the same as last year's adopted millage rate. The county realized an 11.2% increase in taxable assessed values over the past year. The increase in property values results in an additional forty three point six million in property tax revenue. The additional revenue will in part be used to increase the funding for parks capital maintenance, renovate the Hudson Library, provide operational resources
for the expanded detention center, and provide wage increases for all employees. Prior action by the Florida legislator eliminated the requirement for mandatory transportation ad valorem tax. No transportation millage was levied last year, and we propose no millage be assessed this year for the Transportation Trust Fund. I would ask that the board accept public comment and then vote on the general fund and the transportation trust fund millage rates and associated budgets. The minimum vote requirement to levy. the general fund
millage rate is a simple majority or three votes according to maximum millage rate calculations.
Um okay I'm sorry, I have a question for you and I thought it was Decubulus, but I need to go back to this transportation engineering capital. I have two questions for you. Starkey Boulevards from Marcia Drive to south of Wiregrass Road. Um I thought the developer was paying for that instead of putting in a turn link.
That's the question number one and then number two on my presentation last time. Rangeland was on here and now it's not on here. What? So what happened to Rangeland on the major capacity projects? Rangeland was online to the tune of fifty-four million dollars, I think. And now it's gone.
Rangeland.
Wild not listed up there is in the twenty-six. Is it is in there for twenty six. Rangeland confirmed.
But you don't have it there.
Uh we might have ran out of space.
Okay.
Just make insurance. If you could address the first one, that'd be awesome.
Good evening, County Commissioner Oakley. County Administrator for Development Services. Um Chair Starkey, uh the the Starkey Boulevard expansion, from my understanding, is is the county's contribution um for being able to to to complete that entire widening. The developer had a requirement to do the the turn lane as you mentioned into into the project. However the offset of the cost doesn't cover the full cost of of the expansion.
No. No.
Okay. I really have a question on this. 'Cause I was in on these and I'm pretty sure it was either a turn lane at Starkey and fifty four Or Widening that part of Starkey Boulevard.
So I I I do recall what you're discussing. What we'll do is um prior to the final hearing I'll confirm that with your office. Um I don't have county engineer or you know, honest year to to confirm that specifically, but uh as well as the Rangelum question.
Sha she thinks Razan just got cut uh cut off there, but They've confirmed that it's in there. So Rageland is in there. Um but I do have this question on Starkey Bowler.
Okay, thank you.
So we're on page four.
You're right here.
So
for public
comments. Or sorry. I was looking at my notes and trying to remember what I had seen before. Okay, um now does anyone wish to speak to the board regarding the general fund and transportation fund?
So Chair, we have some individuals signed up. It is not clear which one, so I'm gonna call their names and then they can let us know if they want to speak to this one. So Julio Gadoy.
No. Oh okay. Luther Goodwin?
Luther Goodwin.
Sir, when you come to you'll give your name and address for the record and then you have your three minutes.
Thank you. My name is Luther Goodwin, [address removed]. I'd like to say good evening, commissioners, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for the opportunity to present my opinion, Sheriff. Um first of all, um I come before you today to uh update you on my experiences and concerns about the road that we live on, that being Sally Road here in Dade City. Sally Road is
65 plus years old, and it is original in its pavement. We live on the very north end of the street, and we have traveled daily its full extent for some fifty five years. I've called public works many times throughout the years for pothole fills and overlays in certain areas, and I have been very satisfied with the response times on the work done, usually two
to three days at the most. This year, however, Things have changed somewhat for some reason. We currently have an open work order number 82483 pending as of August 28, 2025. Public Works just today has told me that they are running two to three weeks in this type of repair. Back on April fifteenth, twenty twenty five, Work order number seven eight five five
seven was generated for the same type of repair. A crew came and did part of the street, but did not do all of it. I called them back a couple of weeks later and I got no response from that call. A couple of weeks later, my neighbor called and to generate a work order, and we got no response. So we now wait to see if the current request is fulfilled. In one area, the road is practically dirt. My
second concern, and probably the most important one, is as follows. In July of 2024, your team, jubilantly, as per your video, introduced the new road program, MSTU, replacing PBAS as a new system that would be better and fairer for each property owner in the county for the foreseeable future. We were excited as well until some months later we learned that Sally Road
was not on the three-year list of repaving. So that didn't set very well with us. There are 683 roads slash streets listed. on the list initially. We want to learn of some methodology methodology that was used to factor in the repaving on a priority level. It appears that we were overlooked in the initial process. And since we have assessed have been assessed for the night for the 2024 and
2025 taxes, we are in great hopes that we would be added to the list very shortly. We've respectfully submitted Luther Goodwin, and I'd like this to be a part of the record. Thank you.
Second.
All in favor? Aye. I did just uh look at your road and I can tell from Google Earth it's quite quite messed up. And I did just go down and look at the three year list. Um That you can um communicate with them and they will come out and do the road test on your road. There is a Oh. There's someone behind there that can explain that to you. So we'll move on. And
he
can explain it to you.
How long have you all lived on Sally, how long did you say you lived on Sally?
Something something to to think about because of the time you live there is look into our senior tax exemption. For next round we passed this two budget cycles ago. And um so call Mike Wells property appraiser office, they have a whole team and you may qualify for an additional fifty thousand dollars uh for a homestead exemption since you live there so long based on some financials and other things. Um so it's worth a phone call over to Mike Wells'
office tomorrow to see if you can't qualify For the additional tax exemption. I know that's not your road, but that might be able to save you some money.
And there's someone behind you that if you go outside this door, he'll explain the process for you to make sure some comes out and retests your road. I think there's because I've heard them do this to other roads. Because it's all uh And where your road lands on this matrix. So Um but we'll be coming out with a new road list in October. Yes. So um but here's Brantford and he'll he'll help you.
Thank you very much.
Yeah. It looks bad from Google or okay, next.
All right, and then the next person who has signed up is Christy Zimmer.
Good evening. Christy Zimmer, [address removed] I'm asked I'm here to ask for clarification and fairness regarding my property assessment. Thank you for the opportunity for allowing us to be here. Last year my property just values was listed at 313,874. This year the number actually decreased slightly to 310,540. However, during that same time the assessed value went up from 128.6 last year to 132,530
this year. There have been no improvements made to the property, no repaved roads, no extra features. In fact, it has gotten to be impossible to even travel safely around the county without the proper infrastructure with all the growth we're facing. In 2023, my just value went up 15,000 and my assessed value also went up 3750. The only thing I can figure is that you that the taxes went up by the three percent regardless that the value goes down. I have a problem with
that math. I find it confusing and concerning that while the just value went down, the assessed value went up, leading to a higher tax burden on a lower valued property. I respectfully ask the board to explain how this can be justified. This is not the year to increase taxes on homeowners. With the inflation, insurance cost, and the rising cost of living without the equal rise in wages, homeowners association fees, CDD fees, ISD fees, which I know you can't do anything about, but the higher taxes, which
you can, are causing families that are already under tremendous pressure to possibly lose their homes. And with the substantial Growth in Pasco County is experiencing the tax base is already expanding. So revenue should not have to come from the re from raising the burden on individual homeowners. In fact, the growth should allow for tax relief, not increases. The industrial and commercial growth was promised to bring more taxes, but where is the relief for the property owner? These increasing tax burdens
and insurance costs are forcing homeowners out. Most experienced and in a have experienced a shortage in their escrow accounts last year and are having to pay more to cover that shortage, plus more in hope there won't be a shortage for next year. Otherwise, it will be a never-ending bad cycle. It's time to tighten the belts, like we all have to do, to try to solve. Survive. Did you know that there's forty-three properties in the clerk's calendar for foreclosure sales this month? This number is increasing every month. I
work with the banks to assess the values for them to determine whether they're going to do a short sale or a foreclosure, and those requests for reports are multiplying daily. People are forced out of their homes because they simply can't afford the American dream anymore. Don't be a part of that problem. Let's be a part of the solution. All I'm asking for is fairness. I respectfully request that the board reconsider not just mine, but all properties' assessed values and ensure it reflects both the reduction in just value and the reality that this is not the right time
to increase taxes on property county residents. struggling to keep their homes. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Can I just can I get your address real quick because I'm gonna I'm gonna I wanna look into
Yep, yep, but it's [address removed]. What is the street? Thirty Pinecone. Oh Pine Cone. One word. Did you want me to touch on that?
So The example that we have to do is What's occurred on Ms. Zimmer's trim notice, there's other real life examples of that going on in this county. So I don't know what the process is, Mike, if if if if
those
come in,
can the attorney explain that? That's so you don't do the assessments, that's the property appraisal I'm
asking
about process. So the process is is uh I believe the trim notices all say you have to appeal to the BAB, the value adjustment board, and that pro that state law process The will sometimes the property appraiser adjusts before those earrings. they can do that independently, but the to preserve your right for that adjustment, you have to petition for a
Is there a deadline for folks? Yes. And I believe it's on the trim notice.
the right-of-way.
The school board meeting, which is on the ninth, the Swift Mud meeting on the ninth, which is in Tampa, and the Mosquito Control on the fourth. Those are the only dates and notices I I have on this. I I I thought this was the value adjustment board, to be honest with you. No, it's not
the value adjustment board.
Please tell me how.
So while that's uh happening I I will say that uh I believe what Ms. Zimmerman's pointing out is that her must be property value was whatever was lowered. Her property value was actually lowered, but her assessed value was still increased at three percent. Is that
the save our homes annual three percent?
Well I I I would have to say I I looked at some other trend notices and did some math. I will have a conversation with the property appraiser tomorrow and then perhaps we can bring some answers back at the next hearing to that. And I'll I'll reach out personally if if need be if this if the value adjustment board is is the right way to go. But it it certainly intuitively I understand what her point is.
But what's that got to do with the value adjustment board? Well
that's that's that's my question. Because it's not the valuation, it's the number.
Yeah. So and
I I wonder, is it by three percent? Did you look did you do the math? I didn't do the math,
I just calculated the numbers. It was No,
saying yes.
I'm thinking that
that
is the
But if the value of
the house goes down this is what I'm thinking and I'm I'm not an accountant, so I might say this weird. But I'm thinking that would save our homes, everybody's If there wasn't Save Our Homes, you would a your increase would have been up here.
I
have
a non homesteaded property with the exact same thing.
But I'm thinking that that it's just a three percent increase that you get from Save Our Homes. But if
your value goes down, shouldn't your tax go down?
But but it's artificially lower than it's supposed to be because of Save Our Homes. So I just think there's probably s a three this we'll be in But this is a
question for the property.
Yeah, we'll find out. But that's my guess.
And then Chair, another there's another so uh we're hearing this in in In the legislature, some of the members are talking about issues with C D Ds and HOAs around the state. And ask that you grant Ms. Zimmer another three minutes based on the independent uh districts and the fees that are associated with it. I think it's important that she speak to that and it's a represent it's not something that we hear about often, but it's often that people confuse
those fees on top of our fees. Yeah and the speech. And they get and they get blended. But i there's some disc seemingly some discrepancies to that so I ask you grant her another three minutes to talk about that specific issue. Let's hear about that issue.
Probably won't even take their anywho Lake Pageant Estates is the only ISD community in Pad in Pasco County, which is an independent special district. So we had a bill passed in 2006. In that bill it says that if they increase our fees, they're supposed to do it by referendum vote. They've never done that. Rosetta is our current property manager. Four years ago it came to my attention one of the line items in the budget that they were charging us for was $5,408 for assessment
rule fees. So I called Mike Fassano and Mike Wells and asked them what does what where are these fees coming from? Because in Rosetta's statement, they say the district will contract with the firm to prepare, maintain, and service. Certify the assessment roles and annually levy a non-ad valorum assessment for operating and debt service expenses. Interestingly enough, according to Mike Wells, They don't do Rosetta does nothing
with our tax rolls. That comes 100% from Mike Wells' office, the property appraiser's office. He sends it over to Mike Cassano, who charges us two percent to process all our tax rolls to collect all our money and then give it back, and he gives us a rebeat back on top of that. He does not charge that fee either, and he said they are ripping you off. I've been fighting it for four years this year. We finally have board members that want to take it to the head. I am here to say I am not in favor of the ISD amount. I
don't know how that works with you guys because I know that's legislative, but I want you guys to be aware of what they're doing because Mike Fasano and Mike Wells both agreed that this. This was a thievery on the property management company's part, Rosetta's part, in charging us those fees. Is that only for independent special districts? That's or does that have an CD? They're charging the ISD, and it shouldn't be for an ISD at all. They do nothing with our tax rules but one sheet of paper that Mike Fasano sends
to him to sign and put the number that they're going to assess us that they approved on our budget. That's all they do.
That's on the non-advalorum assessment portion of your tax bill or your term notice? Five. So that's so that's the fees that are levied by the independent special district. They're transmitted to the property appraiser just like you do. And Then they are put on the non-ed alarm. So so the remedy and that's why all those different dates and times are listed on your trim notice is to
appear before the spectrum.
What's not under the There's no uh nobody that they the number that they give is the management company. That's who I'm supposed to complain to.
So they they have to have a meeting just like this.
They had a budget meeting.
It was brought up and the attorney said he wanted to Call Mike Fasano and find out. So I got a message from uh the attorney Tim Hayes. I sent him an email and asked him and he said he was waiting for a written reply from the management company and would be in touch with Mike Fasano. But I'm here to say don't approve that seven hundred and thirty-two dollars and three cents. This
board has no jurisdiction to not approve any of the non-advalorum assessments that are not their
But be aware that we're going to be able to do
things are happening at the local level and unfortunately it's not anything that I think you guys can do anything about. Yeah
but
be aware of it. It's good to bring
it to attention to people. So County Attorney so their gov their governing board can vote to reduce these these level of fees theoretically? Is that what you're saying their governing body?
Yes, they can. That's your path. And that's what we've got to work on is getting three of the supervisors in there to voted vote it down and change management.
My recollection is
that
Lake Padgett is an is a separately elected body just like C D D. Okay.
Yes. But it's not a C D D, so it's a little bit different than C D DIS. Thank you for the
opportunity. They did a special act before anybody was using one ninety and that's which is the C D D statute. And so they're classified as an independent special district, which a C D D is also. They just don't track The chapter 190 that C D D's kept are under.
All right, thank you. That was interesting. Um you can do a recall. Uh uh six fifty one fifty one percent I think of your people. You can recall your elected officials on your board. We can talk about that later. Okay.
I'm not so sure unless their special act has that built into the right-of-way.
They don't travel under that statute.
Okay. All right. Uh is there anyone else who wishes to speak to us about this?
Okay.
Um any discussion by the board?
Well, I'll save it for the last day, but you know what I'm gonna be advocating for. Um
Mike, I know we discussed trying to figure out at least looking at reduced millage by a de minimis point oh one. Have we had any refinement on that possibility.
So I mean it'd be board the board discussion on that. We did discuss with the board uh you know potentially looking at at that kind of reduction. Uh point oh one. I certainly Um you know, have have staff look at that and make the necessary adjustments, you know, to the budget. Um that's equivalent to about a
half a million dollars. Yes, sir. So it's not Not a crazy amount, but something.
And I wouldn't doubt that every member uh uh sitting up here wants to do something. Right. So it's just um What the We and we have the last three or four years done been rolling back steadily.
Pas past three years the board is w aiming what what was the seven six seconds?
Seven six zero seven six, then it went to seven point five seven and now seven point four two nine two.
Yeah, so and I think You know where Not funding everything to the highest level, but we're also being respectful of the easement.
I would be happy to bring something back at your regular meeting on the sixteenth to for for the board to discuss if you would like that.
Yeah.
Yes. Yes. So just so the public knows, we we you know, st stay here, but that's the next meeting where we do the
The match.
So
I
know it would look good. Oh yeah, we put it we cut the military, but i if it if it is going to be that amount, which I'm not I don't even think we need to do in the sense of with seven point five in the whole compared to what we were with the state. Um I've got roads and we just heard about this gentleman here. He's not on a three three-year road broad project. We didn't increase the MSTU for the roads. We didn't put one in the parks. And I get demands out there that people want to get the services done. So it may sound good to just drop it down 01 and frankly I
I just don't see what the real point is on just just looking to say, well we did cut it a little bit.
Well I think we should cut something. I I
disagree with
that.
This is not about optics. This is truly giving people their money back. And there's over five hundred and five thousand dollars just right off the top in port projects. And there's also other things that it'd be difficult conversations to have, but I don't think it it's ready yet on on restructuring this budget. In any piece of millage that we can cut, I'm going
to
advocate to do it. I don't care if it's one penny. That's what we're elected to do. It's our number one job. We differ on that opinion, which makes this fantastic and fun every year, the last couple of years. But uh this isn't this isn't sound bites for me. I truly uh believe and I think I've shown in advocating for this effort. It's a mission of mine. So
I I did have a question. Did you want to go? Go ahead
and make a motion.
Well I I no I have a question before um I wanted to ask you because we had a big discussion about the parks the maintenance budget and we all said at that meeting and Commissioner Oakley, I'm sorry, I did see your hands so I'll get to you in a second. Um that we all we ha all had a discussion that um we wanted to do something on the parks maintenance budget And we agreed in our budget workshop that we were gonna give him a certain amount.
Yes.
And that I wanna be sure we're funding him at what we said because I see deficiencies all over the county that are just ashamed.
If if the board elects you know the current example of 0.01 mils roughly half a million dollars I would seek to cut that from recurring spending and if it's this board's desire to because of the condition of the parks budget to leave that off limits I certainly will not touch that.
Well what I'm asking you is what number
Three million dollars is is what we agreed to with uh the advantage of the
other one?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes. So in the parks budget already was one roughly one point two three million and we've added another three million on top of that too for a total of roughly four point two three.
Okay, you will recall
that
Mr. I'm good with that annual deficit was somewhere around seven to eight million. Eight
eight. Yeah. So he's getting half the half of half of the parks are gonna get fixed. Um but I understand we're taking a baby step. Um, but I I will You know, I I wanted to fund them whole. I wanted to do whatever it was we were gonna do the last year, but I we funded the MSTU at zero. But I will be okay at with that number if we state them.
Commissioner Oakley.
Okay. Commissioner Oakley.
Thank you. Uh I think if you remember, was it two years ago we we tweaked the millage?
Yeah. Well we've done the last two years. We had the Fire M S T U and we were
Well I know, but I'm talking about the one that we did, it was a very small percentage of money, but it like for the sheriff, it hit his budget six hundred thousand dollars, which he will never get back. And if you listen to the outcry of the citizens, more and more want the sheriff to be able to do more, but you cut his budget with a tweak. And I mean, we didn't really believe that it would do that to his budget, but six hundred thousand
dollars in insurance budget goes a long way. So I have a problem with tweaking millage. Uh even even with that You have to take away a lot of money. to affect all the homeowners to be able to see a decrease in their taxes. I don't know how much it would take. to really for them to get a benefit out of those taxes coming down.
Mm-hmm. Madam Chairman Mariano I don't think it matters much, but I'm willing to make a motion at seven point four two nine one with the stipulation you take it out of reserves and leave everybody uh every other budget the same. Sheriff's budget, everyone else stays the same.
Yeah what what number you talking about?
I'm go going down that Point zero zero one mils. So seven my motion is seven point four two nine one.
Well we can do that for today and then it was point oh one. He's just making this motion for today, which is a decrease from today. Was it good start?
You don't want
to save
save
and be compounded for and then we'll see what happens. I would entertain a second on that. I'll second
that.
If you lower it tonight, You can't get it back at the next hearing. Yeah. So No, just I mean and the administrator has a has asked you
to wait.
To wait. So it would be
and I appreciate the the zeal and and with that. If if we do that now, that's fine. We I will have to ask for a recess so we can recalculate the remaining numbers that are here currently in in this in this script. I think I've already committed to you of bringing back A number from this board at 01. But it's entirely the board's prerogative. I'm sorry to
know
that.
I'm good. I'll re- recall my motion. I'll make another motion of approval of the general fund billage of seven point four two nine two.
I'll second.
I have discussion.
Oh okay, so we have a for motion and a second under discussion.
I would rather than change it tonight, I would rather us look at the fact of what it means to the sheriff's office. We're not changing
it tonight. The motion was to keep it the same.
Oh keep it the same for now. We have a motion and a second.
And I can address your comment when the board is ready to.
Yes. Madam Chair? Just as it's just to clarify, Commissioner Oakley, what I had said was in doing the millage to do the drop, don't affect the sheriff's budget or all the other budgets, take it out of the reserves and let them go work that internally. So it won't affect the others.
That's what that's what they could do with the you don't affect any of that.
I don't mind cutting taxes. I just want 'em to should be going to the right people the cuts and not hurting the different constitutionals that we hurt before by not looking into it but
And if I I can provide clarity to that, and I'm sorry I didn't state it in my original conversation. I yeah, I had no no intention of of impacting the sheriff's budget. The sheriff already, you know, reduced what this board would normally have given him uh by two million dollars. So that that was off the table. Um you know we'll leave the rest of the constitutionals out and I will find that within the general county government.
Well to Chair
for
the and to clear up
We found we found the fine we found the money to make 'em whole. Special you know, thanks to the hard work of Mike Fasano and what he he returns. And it was just an example of we can make moves there is money out there, it's just how we Think about how we use these funds and how to direct these funds. So I thought that was a fun night for me, my first time. But um I just don't want to take safety. But uh the sheriff the sheriff he he di he didn't take
he didn't take the hit. The sheriff was was made whole thanks to the the team effort and hard work of of uh of uh the tax collector's office uh while, you know, finding a way to save the taxpayer a little bit of money. So I think that's a good thing. That that's that's what happened.
Sure.
Yep.
Um I understand that and he was made whole that time. But that doesn't guarantee that he can be made whole the next time because we were lucky enough to have money come back to us. And that was very fortunate, so we didn't make that up. Every year after that, we're not making up that six hundred, it's gone, it's not coming back in as a buzz. That 600 is gone. Even though you made it up that one year.
Yeah. Okay, so I have a motion and a second.
Um What was the motion?
The motion is keep the mileage out the same the same for tonight so they don't have to go back and do math and we'll
so the general fund would be funded at the numbers that went out on the trip, correct? That is Yes. Yes. Seven point four two nine two.
Okay, is this a roll call vote? Yeah. Okay. All all in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Is there a motion to adopt the tentative millage rate for the transportation trust fund of zero mills?
Second.
Oh okay, under discussion. I just throw this out there. Um You know, we're talking about a regional MPO. And um that's gonna have some W we may have some responsibilities, so just nothing right now. But it's just something to think about that we start Building a very, very small kitty. Can I miss your open?
What you have with that regional and I'm I'm okay with the regional. The fact of it is you gotta have a quorum every time you meet. And you're talking about a board of isn't it twenty six or so individuals?
I think it's gonna be a very important board and I think people are gonna show up.
Well I think it is too, but I'm I'm not sure I'm showing up 'cause we have meetings with just our few and it's har sometimes hard to get five or six or seven people to show up. So Just can't find a large number creates an issue.
People want bigger, people want smaller. Um okay, so we had motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Um okay. On to you.