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Commissioner direct payment and litigation assessment

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StarkeyVice Chair

Um I'm gonna skip on mine and I'll I'll um Oh great. Sorry. I'll go over them next meeting. Thank you.

OakleyChair

Mm.

Yeager

Well, um I attended the firefighter graduation where they graduated um thirty-two cadets, so that was awesome. I also attended with Commissioner Mariano and Commissioner Oakley and Commissioner Seth Weightman, sorry, long day. Uh we um were at the topping out cer ceremony at the Pasco County jail and that was um really interesting and um

OakleyChair

Good barbecue.

Yeager

It'd be very good barbecue.

Mariano

All right. Uh sets of pitches.

This is a uh homeless site that's over by State Road 52 with the flea market. Um this site had caught on fire back February eighth of this year. I think I showed pictures and said how we need to get that cleaned out and we had to work with getting trespass agreements in place, et cetera. And carry on the next pictures. There's a couple of pictures of how it looks looked.

So there was a fire that happened there that caused a few uh people to show uh have to show up there. And then just the other day, uh this is on fifty-two, same location. a homeless person who they caught uh set fire to this whole area. So it was like one homeless person trying to like hurt the other homeless people there. And you've heard about the machetes and the other things that go on there. But look at the traffic. Look at the the smoke. There were numerous uh firefighters

that were out there. I think we had at one time looked like about six or eight trucks. I go off but I think is there another picture or is that one it

Weightman

I think it's great how this where this location is is described. The new car wash.

Mariano

New Yeah. Um so with that, when we had the first fire, I was trying to uh eliminate having this happen again and it didn't happen. Uh I think we've you've heard me talk before about I think we need to take our uh deputy that we have under our um unlicensed contractors, expand his work to actually take the burden off the sheriff's regular deputies, regular patrols. And have that person work with us, work with code enforcement to go get the Tresh Passer

agreements in place, get these sites cleared out when we find them there, take care of the people violating our safety ordinance, panhandlers, uh that we have put in place. Because right now, you know, as busy as they are, and they'll tell you they don't have time to go deal with the panhandlers. If they're gonna be able to keep on panhilling making money, they're gonna keep on staying in the woods doing all the things that they do. And that's just gonna keep on going and going and going. And I think we've got an opportunity to go change that. If

this fire had happened in another neighborhood and you can go up one mile to Leisure Beach, you'd had homes everywhere. And I think we saw last year with all the demonstrations about how many firefighters it takes, about twenty one, three sets of to try to fight a fire, if you're gonna br especially protecting homes. It takes a tremendous amount of resources to go through. This one here only costs about ten grand for the day. Yeah. But ten grand's ten grand. If we lose homes, we lose lives, we change all

things. If it affects businesses, you lose jobs. We've got to go deal with this and I think now's the perfect time to go do it. We've got a perfect ordinance that works for the the right-of-way safety ordinance to keep the panelists from doing it. It pr it finds the people that give as well as the people collecting. Our deb our our code enforcement people don't want to deal with them because they think they're dangerous. If I've got a deputy that's armed with them, walking step by step, they're safe, everybody's safe, you can get rid of the problem. But if you just keep on letting us keep on going, going. So I think in

the upcoming uh budget conversations that we work on, and I know Roy Mazur was l looking at it, uh let's go work on that unlicensed deputy that we have that we pay for and change it, use some ad Ballora money to offset it, and let's go deal with this problem because it's just gonna keep on coming and coming. Um We had the moonlight cleanup.

Is

that your

StarkeyVice Chair

district or her district?

Mariano

It's actually on the borderline, so it actually touches both of its splits.

StarkeyVice Chair

So Jack's claiming that one so you have

OakleyChair

Well keep keep keep

StarkeyVice Chair

mine.

OakleyChair

Oh so that you're

Mariano

They're stretching out in the other districts. Now let's look at the bottom of the flyer in loving memory of Commissioner Gary Bradford.

As a matter of fact I did call Commissioner Yeager. She just had places she had to go with the family, so But uh no the cleanup went very good. Staff was phenomenal out there. Uh matter of fact there was one gentleman in the neighborhood that there's an old fire station that we had that had so sort of trash that's collected up, etc. Uh he went out with his tractor, because I went out there with him to look at it. He piled everything in one place and they brought a grappling truck out the week after, picked it all up, cleaned it all up.

StarkeyVice Chair

Wait a minute, wait a minute. I want to talk about this. Because they won't let us do that and when we cleaned up Juana Vista in that area, they let the residents put everything out in front and they came through with, you know, something in I mean they picked up a wave runner, a nasty old wave runner, all kinds of stuff, but I was told we couldn't do that anymore.

Mariano

Well keep in mind it was our property. It's an old

StarkeyVice Chair

fire

Mariano

station that we own. It's our

StarkeyVice Chair

okay they brought it there and then they

Mariano

Well no no it wasn't break it was already stuff that was dumped there

StarkeyVice Chair

by

Mariano

others. That we're just cleaning up the site. So he just showed it to me as a as an issue that we should fix our own site. So he helped put it to plot it all together and a grappling program went out there and cleaned it up. But uh it was it was a great success. They were very happy that we were out there. Um next page. Mm-hmm. That was just some pictures. So that by Wendix it was ha they had held.

Uh the Palm Terrace Stormwater Project, I think I showed a picture of that before, but they did some great improvements out there. I showed the ditches that were done there before. They even went into that pond that's right there, where they replaced pipes underneath. They found a whole bunch of silt that was in there. They brought the mucky mucks they call it. Went in there and they've now cleaned it all out and the drain in front cleaned it out uh Jason Team just did a phenomenal job out there. Absolutely, absolutely phenomenal. Because these people here we couldn't get This is a stormwater project that'll be coming up later on now that we shut

down the FA plant that's there, but they still flood all the time. All the water comes from all the streets down to this area. Now it's got a place to go to at least hold it for a bit as we as we study the stormwater plan. With the water now to flow out, uh everybody should be in much better shape for the summer. So this is like I

Unidentified speakerVoice A

got some questions on the edge of that road. Look at it, it's all

StarkeyVice Chair

cheetah.

Mariano

Uh it's been soldered now, it actually looks better. There that might be some just dirt that's left over. But they did a did a good job cleaning it up. They soldered it in, it looks great. Good next set of pictures?

Look at this on the sod. Yeah.

StarkeyVice Chair

Good sod too.

Mariano

Say they r really did a great job.

StarkeyVice Chair

Not poking grass.

Mariano

So you know Ken Hudson I'll tell you working with a great administrator. Mike, you'll l you're letting us get the whole team together, work with Brantford and Jason and everybody. They put a h put our heads together and they come up with a great plan to make it work. And I think these people are as a matter of fact a along Arboredeal there, they are very happy. Uh Nancy Bonitez who runs the uh neighborhood watch was Got a couple of calls and talked about it, so they're thrilled what's going on out there. Uh keep on going.

That's all you have? Great. Let's see.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well I I I something weird exactly missed.

OakleyChair

We missed out on some of his pictures. You forgot 'em.

Mariano

All right, I had s also I'll just say it. I had I went to the uh Oasis Pregnancy Center that just opened up. What a phenomenal, phenomenal team there. We had some leftover from my grandson, some diapers, et cetera. So we brought him down there. But what what a great facility they have put together. Uh it's right off of um what's the road? I got my pictures. That's right in New Pergeo, almost downtown. But uh but great great

facility, great people down there, really uh Peter's done a Peter Custom has done a great job bringing uh it over to this side again. So very happy for him. Right. That's good.

StarkeyVice Chair

Commissioner Yeah, that's

Mariano

all I have for

StarkeyVice Chair

I forgot a few things.

OakleyChair

No.

StarkeyVice Chair

And this is one that uh staff couldn't help me with that I was talking to yesterday, so I think I was talking with David Goldstein. Gina, do you have those photos? Um so this is happening in Starkey Ranch. It's um Pine Gap Pine Spur Gap. They're parking all their trucks and their boats and there's um commercial it's commercial vehicles all along the side. of this road.

And talking with Chase, you know, we didn't We don't know how to deal with this. Is is this a if it i is it a C D D road? Is it a county road? Who would take it then? Um I think was it you, David, or Brad? It's there's no signage there. Maybe it was Chase that was saying that. Do we need to put no commercial parking? No out I mean, how do we how do we deal with this?

OakleyChair

This is people that live here that

StarkeyVice Chair

No, I don't even know if they live there. I don't have no idea where they live. They just found this road and decided to park on it. And I I I have a video but I I I couldn't um send it, it was too big, but the whole road is lined with commercial vehicles. What's the name of the road? Pine Gap Spur.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah, this is Pine Gap Spur. It uh Spur it runs behind uh from Gunn Highway uh westward and right behind uh the new businesses are there, the World of Beer, the seven eleven, all of those businesses right along that stretch. It runs between those and the apartment complex. that is behind them. But those all those street on street parking is part of kind of that town center parking area. So it's not necessarily the apartment complex's responsibility to monitor And to

Commissioner Starkey's point I don't know that we have a system in place to to monitor it currently. So

StarkeyVice Chair

So I need help trying to figure out who's how do we deal with this? Is it tickets? Do we have to s put signage? So if you could help me with that one. Um also June twelfth is the ribbon cutting for the Metropolitan Ministries. Um Derek Mitchell. I think it's the Derek Mitchell Welcome Center or the Derek Mitchell Center. The Mitchell family was very kind and donated m um money for the uh uh and they named this first building

after them so if if you're free and want to come we'd we'd love to have you. I think it's gonna be a pretty big deal. Um very impressed with the building and that's June twelfth. I don't I don't remember what time. Right you can get it to us. Yeah, we'll get it we'll get it.

Mariano

Yeah. That'll be good. If you can get that to us because I don't have my calendar either.

StarkeyVice Chair

Yeah. And I I wasn't at the uh fire depart uh the fire top off or the jail top off because I was at a habitat for humanity.

OakleyChair

Oh that's what you were doing? 'Cause they said you were at a ribbon cutting. Yeah, it was for

StarkeyVice Chair

a habitat house. Um

OakleyChair

you missed uh a good time, but really

StarkeyVice Chair

Yeah, I'm sure I'll see that deal. But um this family wasn't allowed to be photographed so I can't really have any photographs. Um that that's it. We can only do that just. We have to cover the name. Um but five bedroom house. Really really nice neighborhood and um so congratulations. They're good homes.

OakleyChair

That's good deal.

StarkeyVice Chair

Okay, that's it.

OakleyChair

Okay.

Mike Carballa

All right, Mr. Kabala. Thank you, sir. Um just real quick, I want to uh

StarkeyVice Chair

leave that open then.

Mike Carballa

How good?

StarkeyVice Chair

I didn't talk about this. This is my cleanup. Next it's Saturday.

OakleyChair

All right. Good cleanup.

StarkeyVice Chair

Sunday.

It's coming this weekend.

OakleyChair

Okay. Mr. Kabala?

Mike Carballa

Sure.

OakleyChair

I'm thinking I'm sure.

Mike Carballa

Uh I'd just like to take a moment to uh publicly thank Sonia Toulouse. As you know, uh she's spreading her wings and moving to uh the public safety branch administration. So she's been our administr our agenda coordinator for the past ten months and has done just a lot of great things to advance the ball. So I'd just like to give her a round of applause and thank her for her service. Yeah.

Then I would like to welcome back a familiar face, Miss Gina Jeffers, who will be sliding right back into the role as agenda coordinator. She was our previous agenda coordinator, so we're happy to have her back. So welcome back, Gina. The only other thing I have, sir, is I've spoken with board members individually about the private direct payment provider program with local hospitals. It's a program that enables Enables hospitals to recover additional federal matches for the underinsured and uninsured

that they have to treat. And so, really, what I was just looking for is just a motion to direct myself and the county attorney to develop an ordinance that will enable the county and the hospitals to take advantage of the direct payment provider program and waive the introduction, which will help enable us to implement it in time for the new physical.

OakleyChair

Okay, I mean a motion for that. So move.

Mike Carballa

I got

OakleyChair

a motion.

Jason Mickle

Second.

OakleyChair

One second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion pass five zero. Thank you sir. That's all. That it's You're getting ready to talk.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I am. I'm bringing you one of your favor your very most favorite things to do.

Mary Mcknight

Oh.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Um I would like to set a litigation assessment meeting for the June eighteenth board meeting for the case of Nikki Alvarez Soles. as clerk and comptroller versus Pasco County, case number 2021 CA twenty six thirty five. Um we can do it either before the board meeting at lunch break or after the board meeting, but I need to need to have your indulgence. What

is it? When did you want it? The next board next board meeting. Lunchtime? The eighteenth. It waited

OakleyChair

you can do it at uh nine o'clock. How long will it take?

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Probably half an hour, forty five minutes. Okay.

OakleyChair

Say nine o'clock before the meeting starts, or we can do it at lunchtime or

Unidentified speakerVoice C

it's that's the that's at the board's discretion.

OakleyChair

Okay. So what you wanna do?

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Morning's good.

OakleyChair

Morning? Hour eight on me. Nine o'clock. I'm good for that. We'll have a quarter reporter.

Oh no, I won't be around.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I'll set it for nine AM. Um

That does mean you're gonna have to do a special board meeting announcement though. 'Cause we've got to convene it in

But we'll we'll make that work. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All

OakleyChair

right. Appreciate it. Thank you.

StarkeyVice Chair

Mr Chairman M

OakleyChair

We're eating candy.

StarkeyVice Chair

I am.

OakleyChair

Anyone want

StarkeyVice Chair

any?

OakleyChair

We're so happy we uh got the make your staff come forward today so to wish her well. So thank you. I um I have about a hundred things to do here. Which is not me. Um I tend ribbon cutting for the splash pad. If you'll see this right here, here in Dade City. It's right over here on Church Street. You should have seen the little kids lined up to go in that splash pad that day. So it was pretty

amazing. So But it it's it's a great facility and it's got a it's got a playground park along with it and it's the spoke right next to the trail here in Dade City. It's right over on Church Street just past where the chamber office is.

StarkeyVice Chair

It's very popular.

OakleyChair

Yeah. And it's it's been doing real good. So that's something I really enjoyed doing. I was also with the graduates the other day and and I wanted to mention this. Yeah. and public safety this year. For the entire year we lost three people. Three. You know what's really great about that? As we that that class was 32. So we added twenty nine members. Oh

StarkeyVice Chair

I thought you were meant three dollars.

OakleyChair

No no no I was gonna say that's

Mike Carballa

lost to um

OakleyChair

and other agencies. They went in other places. No, not lost

Mariano

in that. So But I thought we're up to seventy this year total.

OakleyChair

Normally we lose seventy, but this year we only lose three.

Mariano

Gotcha.

OakleyChair

So we save from losing those, but then The three we lost, we've of course got. Thirty-two more and then so we improved our numbers by twenty-nine this year, which is very unusual but a great Yeah.

Mike Carballa

For the first time this year, Mr. Chair, I think we will finally have achieved our minimum manning levels. Um Yeah, yeah the first time in quite some time.

OakleyChair

It's a great thing really. So it's uh and then of course I went to uh the topping out ceremony we had there at the detention center. Beautiful facility, we toured that and I mean Just just a great facility. Great. I don't know exactly where that barbecue place is, but I gotta I gotta find out where it's at. So but it it was great to be able to be there. And also one last thing I have is I want to uh

What am I gonna do? I wanna thank and and uh

the fact that we are continuing with our county administrator because his contract renewed on Sunday. And so we have him for at least two more years and hopefully more than that. So but look forward to working with you the next two years.

Remaning He had about enough of us, but he decided to stay. So But we're we're proud to have you as our administrator and you've done a great job and you've got a great staff that works for you. So

Mike Carballa

Couldn't agree more. Thank you, sir. And it's it's been a pleasure serving this board, serving our community, serving my community. Uh you know. I mean it's it's it's really a fantastic honor. So uh but uh you guys, you know, make it make it worthwhile and and the team is simply amazing. You know.

OakleyChair

So

Mike Carballa

Yeah,

OakleyChair

can't find a better team. That's right. And you gotta give David off a half a day somewhere so he can improve his golf game. He's been so busy lately. H his golf he's lost weight, his golf game's gone to heck and I mean just on and on, so Well

David Engel

I'm sure I still hit the ball straight, straight into the lake.