RG7901 zoning amendment from AR to R4 for 77 units
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You mean Justify Hope Planning Development and Economic
Growth?
This is RG7901, interest family extended LLC. Interest project.
It is
a Euclidean zoning amendment. Going from AR and Bulshian Residential District to an R for I Dent City Residential District. Future land use classification is REST III, residential three-dwelling use Bureau of Sacre. Purposive developing up to seventy seventeen maybe. Catch tones. The location of the property is the west side of Kent Grove Drive, uh a mile north of State Grove. Sorry. 52.
Here's the general location of the property that is in the central market area. Here we're nearing the context map. It is just the west of Kent Groove Drive and the CSS, CSX Railroads. to the east across the rivers is Al Vera M D U D. When the further pieces for one. To the south is C Route fifty two. And then over to the west, you can see the South Coast Parkway. It's
sure they're digital. Yeah, central market area is actually positioned to
be a more suburban area.
Here's the air of the shot at the property.
Uh the wooded areas along the Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Here we go with the future land use map in the area to see if it's all residential three in that area.
Here's the zoning map. Properly is AR, uh you have the total area MPUD to the east. A R to the north. And that's maybe C to the northwest.
Subject site consists of approximately forty one or just under forty-one acres. It's developed one single family mobile home. Uh Property has about ten acres of category violence. Proposed access to the property is from Cancode Drive. Currently it is via Hamlin Road, which is a privately maintained
easement to the sound.
Um the
applicant has volunteered deed restrictions, uh some of which the maximum number dwelling units is 77. There is a fair share of value uh contribution of $375,000 to the Ken Grove Drive Improvements. There will be in um in sellers contracts when they're going to buy homes, there will be a railroad disclosure warning. the level of potential noise from the railroad over spell
There also addresses monotony control and then additional landscaping and buffering requirements. Subject site is not adjacent to any trails. There is a 10-foot wide multi-use path that goes in Long State from
route 52 gas to set.
Yeah, it's coming to you. That recommendation do you recommend approved to the Board of County Commissioners that they're
And
I'm here.
Thank you.
Mr.
Chairman, uh Planning Commission members, Clark, Hobby, Hobby and Hobby, PA 109, North Rush Street Tampa, Florida have been sworn. Uh before I get going, I'll make it very brief. I did want to alert the Planning Commission. Uh, you all may have heard that our good friend Chris Williams lost his father last night. His father was a legend. In the county, Ted Williams, he was a property appraiser for twenty-eight years. uh served on school board before that. So let's all be thinking of and praying for Chris and his family in the days to come. So
want to make sure everybody knew that. Um you heard a staff presentation which was uh not only accurate but but pretty thorough. The sites located in the central market area and the board adopted policies and the comprehensive plan in about 2011. To create market areas and located this site in the central market area. And that was in part due to a ULI study that we had done. And the ULI panel identified the area north of 52 between the
Suncoast and 52 as being an area that already has significant infrastructure in place. And for that reason, the board adopted policies to encourage growth in the area. So what we're seeking to do here is uh you know, generally low density uh project, etc. 77 units on 40 gross acres. It's about 25% less than the existing future land use would allow. The future land use would allow 102.
We're seeking 77. We've capped the units, even though we weren't required to, we agreed to abide by all the PM26 memo requirements for landscaping architecture for the units there. We increased the buffer on the south side because that's really the only neighbors we have on the north side, west side. There's a large wetland system, and I think some of our neighbors may want to talk about that. but it provides about a two or three hundred foot bumper from most of the folks
on the north end. Uh and just Two last things. This hasn't even though it there is an uh unrecorded subdivision with larger lots to the south of us, this area has never been in one of the county's identified rural areas. The county does not have any rural preservation goals for this area. And lastly, when I got involved, I could see Kent Grove Drive had a lot of problems and needed to be repaved. And I
worked with uh Jason and Public Works and they actually repaved Kent drove in the last couple of weeks. And our client is contributing a significant amount of money towards that cost. We couldn't afford to do it all ourselves because it's over a mile long, but we did agree to contribute 375 grand. So I have our engineers here and everybody answer questions that the Planning Commission may have, or we'll hear from our neighbors and respond to those. Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Jared first individual signed up. It's Cody and Brad. Right.
Thank you, gentlemen. Cody
McBride, 1745L Coon High Road, Spring Hill, Florida. I have been sworn in. Um, you know, I'm the longest resident other than my dad in the Kent Grove area, been there 59 years. I'm intimately aware aware of this property. In fact, I used to bail ale on when I was a kid. I'm very aware of the environmental hazards. uh the north side that Mr. Hobby spoke about. The uh the tributary there is called the Riles Branch. Miles Branch feeds out of Greens Green Lake at Galler's
corner. Uh F D O D was very uh Diligent put drainage under under forty-one and fifty-two. So that all of Connor Preserve Some people may disagree. Of County Preserve can be drained through the Route Ranch. Directly in the Pilcuty River. Fifth Cootie River, the upper Pithacuti River Preserve County Park. It's just the the uh western there. It's a wall led corridor. I submit to you that there's a lot of wildlife that uses the Ryles branch
as well. And that's all I want to say about the uh the environmental impacts, although they are very substantial. The surrounding community is one acre or greater parcels. I was glad in that way with Mr. Kent and Mr. Whitmer years ago. That's the way it was designed. So that septic tanks and wells would be allowed. Mr. Hobby talked about the infrastructure, the significant infrastructure that was in the area. There is no water. There's no sewer. Part of King Grove Road
is or King Grove Drive is now paved. only to the applicant's entrance. Uh you know he's he's mentioned a little bit about the uh the buffering on the south side. Everybody in the neighborhood has chickens. They are pigs, they are goats. It's a rural community. And it always has been. People who live in that community treasure that, and that's what they appreciate. That's why they live there. I speak for the majority of the residents. Because I've attended all the community
meetings. Also attended the meetings at Talamaran. C D meetings. Those meetings were uh based on Applicant trying to get the the infrastructure, the water, the sewer. Tied into the Talavera community. And run underneath CSX Railway. and underneath the Ryles branch. Хоч і майні. Good DA. Environmental disaster. I appreciate your time. I appreciate you guys listening so closely
to all the previous uh notions and previous uh Discussions that were had I appreciate your input. Thank you very much for giving me a moment to speak to you guys and I hope you take my get my comments. Uh under advisement. Thank you very much, Shellman.
Thank you very much.
The other individual signing to speak on this item is Timothy Help.
It's not public or one two eight one can't grow to draw it.
This is the Pope's classic. And uh
Not only does it share wetland, it shares the same, I a whole bunch of us share the same contiguous FEMA flood zone A. Uh huh. area with that property. So that bark is that can fill in on not even in wetlands, but at land. Slats down there. Outside of the planting is filled. our clock these can't be a slight more. So another thing that wasn't mentioned. We did talk about paving a road. That road already floods, not that the pavement didn't fix that. So you know if you fill a couple of potholes
got filled in. That road still floods when it rains to the point where we have to drive around the other way. And the back end of the stairs neighborhood. The dirt rope. Uh the dusty dirt rope. Every every time someone goes up and down this road, there's dust clouds. And it's not I guess my concern and probably everyone else who hasn't like been able to show up here because it's in the middle of a a work day. This is a big listed rural com community, low density, and there's not infrastructure here for putting up a whole bunch
of high density right in the middle of a name of a rural community. Um this isn't my calavero where it's accessible straight off 41. Um no traffic. So I I guess I'm saying I guess you're basically saying it. uh can can you guarantee with this goes in that there's gonna be no no flooding impact on my property. Um And then Can we get
appreciate it by everyone who was along that road.
Anybody else?
Yeah. Yeah. If he wants to
speak. Julia Bartonic to 645. Now it would drive me for a cheap story three four six five five. And yes, this uh area is continuous to the upper Cody River preserved. It's an extremely important uh wildlife area and there are lots of species in there that need to be preserved. But during a hard rain, which we really haven't had much of lately, until north of north on 41, that's
actually ponding. So we really need to be really, really careful, like what areas we're developing and behaving over. Any development in this community would be incompatible with the existing community. It's in the next community, and it's a wonderful, wonderful rural community. And this would just be an eye score and this would be an environmental disaster. because we need to preserve what is left of that Ricodi
River Pluto Basin. Angelina's already there on the south side. That's enough. Enough needs to be enough. And this would not be the place for a
development like this. Thank you.
I explained. Just for a moment. Thank
you. My name's Jan Brown. Address is 17451. Mini Ola. Drive. I use Brooksville. Still three, four, six, fine, zero. Only thing I want to do is ask the board, ask the county commissioners. according and accordance to Florida State Statute 125.66. that we have next month's meeting. In accordance with this
after five o'clock, please.
Inter Seth Weightman South. I'm not meaning to say that. Throughout the year, so if we can't.
We can't change the time. What are statue set? 125.66.
After five o'clock. And if we request it's
a
magic
button. Yeah. Thank you. Pardon me? After five right now. And yes, after five.
So our community can be there. Our community works. We're working people.
I know. Everybody here works. We all have jobs.
Okay.
Except for all. Make a sacrifice behavior.
And that's what the statute says is to ask. Or to be after five o'clock.
The statute can be way our county attorney says the statute can be way five board. Well it has to be overplayed. All that keys that cleaning. Yeah,
There's a couple of protection version like one about two. hours some meetings after five o'clock, so You just keep a lie that
Because when we have a meeting like this, that means we're here still one or two o'clock.
That's fine. That's fine. That means our community can go. Our community can't come to meetings like this.
So they can't speak.
So I think we have a pretty good representation.
I think we have a pretty good craft today.
So That's it. Because we have a community that would like to speak on something that's going to come into our community. We ruin our tributary. Ruin our property. I've lived there since nineteen seventy-one. I think I'm the second oldest. Mr. McBride here. And We don't want that in our community. It's gonna ruin
it.
Christine Summer. Got
my address on record. Kent Groves is a very unusual, very special neighborhood. It's very rural. And I lived out there for 10 years, so I do know and I did deal with the impact of the flooding. The road was washed out on multiple occasions. The paving that they've done is only to suffice their unit, their interests. And $375,000 is not enough to go towards a contribution to that. And Why would you want to change
the zoning to a high, high density when the future land use zoning isn't that high? Why do they have to have it maxed out with that? Granted, with the high with the four, they're gonna be able to get more, but they're not, so they're making it look good. But when the fact is the area is not conducive to that kind of density at this time, and even their future land use three is less. So think about that. But Is there any parks? Is there any recreation
facilities being included in this? Are there sidewalks being included in any of this? Let's take a look at that plan and take a better review before you approve it. Thank you.
Because it's changed. We're not here to review the site plan. And they're asking for R force only.
And it's three. Future land use is three.
Yeah, us. This is a Euclidean rezoning request which Isn't it like an M V U D. In fact if I were gonna ask the applicant a question why he didn't e M V D I'm dirty. What? By virtue of him asking for the Euclid District. Yeah.
Bound bound. the land development code in all of its requirements in in all respects. So that will be it.
The land development code requires a neighborhood park. That's not up for debate here. He has to be the land development code.
Okay.
Thank you.
Hi,
Michaela Krause, 35920, Praise Place, Unit 102, Zephyrhills, Florida, 33541. I have sworn. I'm here today because it is very emotional for me being brought up in a rural community, living in Zephyrhills, watching. The concrete. The concrete that It's an eyesore, the concrete that killed all of the wildlife that I would
make friends with going outside. to lower than the quarters of a level, you know, to Be stress free, relax. You know this land we have to respect it. This is sacred land. Okay. Native Americans were here before us. Sacred, sacred land. And we are just letting these developers come in, look at it from a satellite, have no emotional connection to it. And add concrete. And
people like me, I'm Generational Z. You know, I love animals and farmland and I'd love to grow up and raise my family in this county. I'd love to buy an agricultural piece of property and just You know, honor it, respect it. You know, we are residents. We have feelings. We have eyes and nose. We like fresh air. We like clean water. You know, I really hope that you guys Think about us and Don't think about
the money, but don't think about easy. Short term profits. Yeah, think about What unites us? This divine kрішен.
Thank you.
Native Americans on your land where you live? I said, were there Native Americans on the land that you live on? So then what gave you the right to build on yours?
Sorry, I didn't build anything, I just sort of try and build somebody
built on it, right? You live in something, you live in a built house.
And I was too young to come and defend it. Somebody else's
fault, is what saying. But somebody did that.
I was just saying if the where I'm living now, if I was old enough to come here and defend the land I would And I'm here now and I'm old enough to defend this land. I'm trying to protect it. And just you know, we have stored this land. And we have to honor it. If if we have to put something in every single piece. Why does it have to be high density? Why does it have to go from agricultural to this high density? You
know, why can't we just honor it and look at the people and Say hey these citizens might want to pet pig, you know. They might want a cow. They need a little more room. For that. It's kind of art with high density.
understand your feeling as someone who lives on a large lot. I don't have any pigs, but I've had a pig and I have chickens. And I can understand that. What I'm getting at. Yes. We hear from people all the time who come in here and tell us. Well, we need to respect this land and keep
it in our natural condition, but we all forgot that somehow the house that we live in got built by somebody too. And some developer
divided the land we live on in up into It deluxes. No, what what what made it okay for us to be here but nothing?
I just hope that the developers, we give them a lot of our trust and that you guys trust them. But firsthand, I I don't trust them. I have friends that work for developers that find Indian spearheads. And they don't know. They don't know to report these things. They just say, hey boss, I found a cool spearhead. And it's like, whoa, hey, this land is actually maybe something we shouldn't. Widows, you know, and maybe just
respects just A
little bit more than
we are.
Thank you.
Okay. Just keep in mind
we're a mediating body. So that the you know, we're not making decisions to develop anything. Yeah.
Property. Other people that are neighboring that that also have rights. Yeah, sorry to We our job is to try to
get
a
mediator between them. So just keep going.
Somebody else.
Is the Hayeswood 34110 a nice place? Maybe we can change the rules and regulations some so it's not as easy to do this. Anyway, that's not what I wanted to s to uh to address. Um, I heard them talk about flooding and I'm running into a lot of people that are having flooding problems. I never had it before. It's not the county's fault. It's not the developer's fault. It's something that's a hundred years.
And I'm I'm hearing it over and over and over again. How can you make sure that if this sky, these people get start getting flooded? That they aren't all of a sudden having to pay for the damage done because it's not the developers' fault. It's not the county's fault. It's nobody's fault because it's a 100-year thing. But it's happening more and more.
What?
Because of development. Yes. Thank you.
Page.
Mr. Chairman, I'll try
to be brief. I did I do want Jordan Schrader, our engineer, to speak to some of that flooding and those type of issues, but just a little bit of further background for the Planning Commission as you consider this matter. Talavera is within a stone's throw literally of the site on the other side of the railroad tracks, and it has 60-foot lots. And that and we're also in close proximity to so-called mosquito control site. And the board just did a future land use change in a rezoning to allow the same-size lots that we're
seeking today. When it again coming to the density, we're essentially asking with the deed restriction. We have 2.25 units per acre under the calculations that the county uses. So we're under the existing future land use density. When it comes to Kent Grove Drive, just again to give you all a sense of things, this project is proposing a path of 77 units. There are already well over 200 other units in the area that access.
Um uh their properties from can't grow drive. So we're not in a small area with, you know, a few 10-acre tracks and 10 units. There's a a fair amount of people out there. I do understand that they're on a legacy project with larger lots. I get that. But again, the board's adopted policy for this area is res three and to encourage growth there. And we feel like we're being very responsible. possible in the way that we're doing it. With with that, Mr. Moody? Uh uh that's
what I was gonna say. I was gonna just leave any engineering uh follow-up to Mr. Trader to ask a question about the road and put it. There was three hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars. That's where we're okay.
Grove Drive County Maintained. It is past our sight. at some point it splits off but there it goes further north. And there may be a section up north of us that isn't and Luzier is dirt that there soil lights and goes into Lusier, which is why that's a good question. So I'm looking to the north of you.
Rogue Drive is an ingress appears to be an ingress egress easement. And there's a section to the south of you.
That appears to be penning grassy grassies, but Well we do have I I don't have the map in front of me, but we have confirmed that we have public right-of-way to our site. So that's what I'm getting, is it maintained right-of-way, right?
Well it's
just not showing. The county the county paved can't go. Kent Grove Drive about 25 years ago under a dusty road exemption, but I don't know that the county actually conducted any maintenance. And and to your point, Mr. Moody, the the pavement of the road goes right up to the edge of the right-way in many cases. So I don't know if the county's out there mowing the side of it.
It was paved in nineteen seventy-nine.
Yeah, try it. Yeah.
That doesn't watch that case to run side.
Don't forget.
What is
talking?
When we're in the res three land use in higher zoning. Right. allow subdivisions where access is by decent. Right. It looks to me it's it's when we're coming from wherever. I mean from fifty to where the door and at some point we're forced to pass through an easement. not a right-of-way. That's why I'm asking if it's maintained right of way or if it's actually right of way.
I'll have to go back and look at that. I was screwing I need to see your client in a only to know that he can't subdivide
not being accessed by right of
waivers.
Um Mr. Moody, I I looked at the Hasco mapper and it shows this road is county maintained from the project's site south.
All
all maintained.
I
can check higher, but it's well we'll look into it, Mr. Moody. I I certainly understand your position. Correct. There's but it doesn't show as right away, it shows as an easement, but But I think
David can confirm that if the county maintains the right of way, whether or not it's an easement or not, then it's Then it's a counties right of way, maintained right-of-way, right? Okay.
Sounds like that's happened for far more than that. When they pay all the training in the right-of-way. That's a good point. And we may want to clean that up prior to development as far as the boundary of the maintained right line. That's a good point. If if it's a How are you bringing?
We don't have a final answer on that. We've actually looked at a couple of different ways that we might bring utilities over from RD One. We did talk to Talavera. We haven't completely shut the door on that, but there are other properties that we're talking to where we could come in and uh go under the railroad track. Um so that's what our our plan is for right now. It's not going to be credit incredibly cheap. But or or short, but that's what the plan is for right now.
Of course, could you
address the statement that you're gonna be accessing the dirt road part of
Okay, growth. Well, we are not. I mean Kent Grove, I mean our site is only on the portion of Kent Grove. It's paved. It's paid past our site.
He won't
be
accessing the journal part.
Yeah. Pen road that ends up there. I think what they're talking about is there's another road named Lazier. I mean, if you follow it on out, there's another quarter or a half mile that you hypothetically could go up there. But that's not where proposed
access is. I'm not the same road.
I can add Mr. Shreves. I think it would be good to hear from infrastructure.
Good afternoon, members of the Planning Commission. Thank you for your
service, especially on a day like today. We appreciate all your time. Jordan Trader, 3010 West Azale Street, suite 150, Tampa, Florida, 33609, and I have been smart. Um I took notes. I'm going to try to address some of the neighboring concerns. If anybody has additional questions we go through, but I did feel like I captured everything, but if I miss anything, please feel free to add. Mr. McBride, we have met with Mr. McBride, both Cody and Jim previously. As a lot of people know, Mr. Jim McBride has been our clean for a long time and is very well respected. Um
Mr. Cody brought up the The wetland system on the north side that is tributary to the Cody River is a category one wetland. There are no proposed impacts to that. We recognize and understand the significance of that wetland. Again, that's a system along the north side. It's a well-defined drainage system. He also talked about Ryles Branch, which goes into that. And I want to mention this project, because it does not have an existing planned development and as Euclidean, it will be subject to the new statewide stormwater rule, which improves and reduces
nitrogen and phosphorus as it goes into this system. So we recognize that this project will comply with additional stormwater treatment as it drains into that tributary. I missed his last name, but Tim earlier has talked about the flood zone A that straddles it. This is a watershed that's been studied by Swift Mud. And it is a relic zone A on FEMA's map, but there is a Cody River watershed that was done by the Water Management District. That more clearly defines the floodplain. And one thing about this property is it's it's characterized
as really a local high point. It's an old orange grove. It has a very well-defined drainage system along the north side. And the vast majority of the floodplain is well contained within that category one wetland. So there are essentially nominal or de minimis floodplain any impacts from this project because that floodplain is contained in there. There are existing homes on the other side of it that built structures in the floodplain. Okay, that they flooded with Milton. They've seen that. This project. uh through construction plan design and permitting will not
adversely impact or alter any of the floodplain for their surrounding
neighbors. Temptal.
Tim mentioned the dirt road. Further to the north, I think as you can see, Cantgrove Road, it essentially dead ends into the McBride house. So there's really not a lot of pass-through traffic that will go on that dirt road section. I think that kind of addresses itself.
There was a lady and there was uh Jane Brown, they talked about the significance of the Cody River, which is due west. And again, this drainage system to the north will be subject to the new stormwater rule, so we'll remove, and it's actually a reduction in total nitrogen phosphorus, not just what it discharges today. So the new statewater rule ensures that there's less nitrogen phosphorus that enter that system. As far as Michaela and the last person go, she mentioned something about emotional connection. I just want to say that. A lot of us do have a very, very intense emotional
connection. One of the reasons I became a civil engineer is because I realized you can either watch people do it and be frustrated or become a part of it and help with that process. That's what led me into this path. I chose this profession because we have a direct impact on people. It allows us to make sure we don't have flooding. So I want you to know as a licensed engineer, we take it very seriously. This project will go through Swift Mud and County and all of these, all of the technical draining things will be addressed at that point in time. If there are any
other questions, I'm happy to answer them. I
Very honestly. I'm concerned that
there's no utility service and I saw the comments in here from utilities about their not being adequate. Pressure in Talavera.
Trying to figure out what's the
plan for utilities.
So there was a
history
chapter
beyond the record.
So we received that comment. We have had extensive discussions with utilities about this area. And when the Talibera issues were happening with pressures in the area, Mr. Moody, the utility department found out that there were a whole series of valves that had been accidentally closed in the area. Yeah, and once they fixed that, we're hearing from Talifera that the pressures have risen considerably. I would also say that we've done a bunch of work for the Mitchell 41 project
and other projects in the area that are coming online. And we're looking at a couple of other potential fixes, some of which involve looping some lines and some involve uh installing uh uh pumps for potable pressure uh increases in the area. And so we're looking at all that. We obviously have to meet all the technical requirements that you know PCU imposes on us. So we're we're confident we can get there. Jordan's firm has done extensive
modeling in the area. Since that comment was given.
And they later by the way, they later repressed seventy
seven.
Lots. Is an economic To bring utility. Right. We've discussed that with our client numerous times. Our client's very sophisticated and they
believe that it is.
They developed several thousand lots in the Bay Area, so they're They believe they can do it.
All right, thank you.
All right, any other questions, comments, discussions? Oh discuss more easily.
Chance for rebuttal from the public.
Yeah, we didn't hear it.
Any chance for a
rebuttal from the public, sir?
Please. The republic doesn't doesn't get rebuttal and if you if you give if you get the public rebuttal, then you're gonna get the applicant rebuttal again. So Second Trump doesn't not in you can speak to the
Board of County Commissioners. Absolutely. Thank you, sir.
Right. Not in trends, please. Bottom triangle.
Yeah. Okay.
Continue the project. Thank you, sir. Very almost like any idea. The reason
for that is
I don't want to deny this project. But there is not a plan for utility services. on this property there's not a clearly defined plan to get Utilities here. Thank you. Part maybe you'll kind of say. for the force.
What if it's
to
Develop land.
Yeah. Airs. Water and sewer
are critical to this.
And I don't see the point. Of giving it an R4 zoning and high density zoning if we don't have the adequate facilities there. were to be
a feasible plan to get it there.
Is
where I'm
at. I if I might, that the comment that Mr. Moody's referring to, and I understand this overall point. But staff later rescinded that comment and added another one that said we will evaluate, as we always do, utilities at the time of the proposed development. So even though we have a R4 zoning, there's nothing to stop my client to come in and build half acre lots if they want to later, even with the R4 zoning. At that point, we would have Well and Subtic.
So until the development Time is not. And I'm fine with that. come back and ask for half acre lots. We can talk about R2 or R one lots. I appreciate your sending it, Mr. Modi, but that you're asking us to do something that no one else has to do on a Euclidean zoning. You're not required to do what you're talking about. I appreciate your comment. We will solve the issue at the time of site plan approval as we're required to do by the code. That's when we're trying to solve it.
How many rebuttals does he get when we can't have any? Yeah. I don't
have comments from the crowd. We're Just
We gotta be funny and not in talk. Right.
I don't make the same here.
Got it. Thanks.
If they are granted the R4, then it's their problem to solve, right? I mean they in order to move forward with the R four, they have to solve the problem. They have to get the utilities, adequate utilities like
correct course. Okay. It has. I
would
also note Yeah.
We don't have clear evidence that they have access via a public right-of-way either. They admitted here today that, well, we need to look at that and we might need to get that cleaned up. There's a time in the future. Go get it cleaned up. Go figure out what you're going to do, utilities, and come back. Like I said, I don't want to deny the zoning. I'm just saying to continue it so you can come back. With some Answers. Near cloud access and utilities.
Doesn't the county maintain right away give them in it's county maintained growth
don't know if it's staff testified if it's county maintained not all
If it began to four years, I mean don't know. I mean that that's a factual question, but I
don't have that evidence in front of me.
I'm assuming somebody in staff can answer that but I don't have that fact the fact that I just paid it twice.
Yeah.
Exact question. No sir, I can't answer that question. Well I can say is on Mapper It's county maintained from the
Can
you please use your microphone, sir?
Sure.
Uh
the
only thing
I could stipulate to is on Pasco Mapper. The county maintains the right of way. With the easement. from the property boundary or the place where they're going to interconnect all the way down to State Road
52.
But I can stick to it. Okay.
Couldn't I suspect we've maintained it for longer than four years? I just don't have the information from
Good evening everyone. My name
is Barrett Dow, Assistant Public Works Director. Pleasure to see you all this evening. I can tell you that uh from a public work standpoint from 52 going north to um Uh the name of the road's escaping. Uh past that also. But basically we maintain all of Cancero, I can tell you, as far as uh pavement. The portions that aren't paved degrading. uh as well as any kind of mowing or or landscaping. Now as far as how back, how far back that goes, I'm
not sure, but I can certainly find those answers out for you all. That wouldn't be no problem. We could just look at service requests, work orders, but I can't confirm that our or main staff does perform. uh the work from 52 north all the way
up to our canky robots.
So
I hope that's helpful.
I wasn't paid that far. Uh oh we have motion on the four, we have a second.
Mm-hmm.
Are we Ocean Sky. Mm-hmm. Go back in a second. Okay, I'm another motion.
Make motion to approve.
That's
right.
Motion to approve is a second.
That's
the recommendation to the important county commissioners.
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Oh, is Like Stein?
Thank you.
Still have the BSC. You can get the
right spell.
I know.