PDD-23-0148

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6 appearances between Jan 19, 2023 and Jun 20, 2023, at 2 boards — continued 1 time.

OutcomeAdopted by the Board of County Commissioners on Jun 20, 2023

Approved to adopt by a roll call vote.

Official title

Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAL22(01) Odessa Town Centre PD (Planned Development) - Transmittal Of The Proposed Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 22) From RES-9 (Residential-9 DU/GA) And ROR (Retail/Office/Residential) To PD (Planned Development) On Approximately 86.38 Acres Of Real Property Located At The Southwest Corner Of The Intersection At State Road 54 And Gunn Hwy; And A Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.68 – Odessa Town Centre PD; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(68) Odessa Town Centre PD; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency

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1Jan 19, 2023
Planning CommissionRES9Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAL22(01) Odessa Town Centre PD (Planned Development) - Transmittal Of The Proposed Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 22) From RES-9 (Residential-9 DU/GA) And ROR … (Planned Development) On Approximately ~~86.38~~ 81.47 Acres Of Real Property … Amendment Creating Subarea Policy ~~FLU~~ Flu 7.1.68 – Odessa Town … As Necessary For Internal ~~Consistency~~ Consistency.
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2Feb 16, 2023
Planning CommissionRES9Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAL22(01) Odessa Town Centre PD (Planned Development) - Transmittal Of The Proposed Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 22) From RES-9 (Residential-9 DU/GA) And ROR … (Planned Development) On Approximately ~~86.38~~ 81.47 Acres Of Real Property … As Necessary For Internal ~~Consistency~~ Consistency.
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3Feb 21, 2023
Board of County CommissionersP59Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment … Odessa Town Centre PD ~~(Planned Development)~~ - Transmittal Of The … (Planned Development) On Approximately ~~86.38~~ 81.47 Acres Of Real Property … Necessary For Internal Consistency
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Kathryn Starkey
In the Tampa Bay Times on January 4, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mail.
Denise
Um this following item P59 is PDD 230148. This was to be the transmittal for a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment, C PAL 2201, Odessa Town Center PD. However, the team is requesting, this is a county-initiated uh comprehensive plan amendment. The team is requesting a continuance to the March 21st, 2023. Um Board of County Commissioners meeting at one thirty in Newport Ritchie because the area is expanded. We've added
some property. So that needs to be renoticed.
Kathryn Starkey
Um so I have a question on this, Mr. Chairman. Go ahead. This is and just for a little background, this is a project that we started. And I just want to give other commissioners a heads up that they can do this too in their districts if You know, if you s find a place that you think this would benefit. Um this is Gunon fifty four where the old flea market used to be. And it's an interesting quadrant surrounded by the Cemetery uh and um a road to the south that I'm gonna think
of the name that goes that the bus Interlake Interlaken. Interlock 'em Interlakin. Um and we were very worried that it was gonna be piecemealed into development in a and a poor planning process and that and people were swirling all around it to buy it and everyone wanted to put multifamily. And there's job great job potential there if we do it right. So we initiated a board, what do you call it?
Denise
Initiated. County initiated comprehensive plan amendment.
Kathryn Starkey
Yeah, co uh County initiated comprehensive plan amendment. But I and so I listened to it on the com uh and I saw that we added Mark Blanton added his piece, but why can't we go ahead and send this and then just add that? Why do we have to hold this up? 'Cause I'd I'd rather not hold it up personally, 'cause I know people are knocking on those people's doors and I wanna preserve what we can. Sure.
Amy Heiler
Amy Heiler with Long Range Planning. So it's my understanding that due to the boundary change, we needed to renotice and per statute 14 days before the public hearing, so we didn't have that enough time to renotice. It was also at the direction of our CAO to ensure that we do notice because we wanted to make sure that we sent DEO all of the accurate information. Change we don't want to send them something and then have them review and have a modified change too. So we wouldn't have to do that.
Yes, they are, yes, correct. So so it's just it's more of a statutory alignment.
Kathryn Starkey
David, were you gonna say something?
Unidentified speakerVoice A
If you're adding property to If you're adding property to what you're noticing for a land use approval, you need to renotice it. You're you're making it bigger than what it was before.
Kathryn Starkey
Which is a good thing. All right. I'm just ready for this to be
Unidentified speakerVoice A
I'm excited for you guys
Kathryn Starkey
to see it.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
At the at the final adoption.
Kathryn Starkey
All right. All right. I was so excited to vote on this today.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
There we have a motion.
Kathryn Starkey
I'll motion to continue. Sadly.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
To March twenty first. To
Kathryn Starkey
March twenty first.
Thank you.
Jack MarianoChair
All in favor say aye.
Gary Bradford
Aye.
Jack MarianoChair
Any opposed?
Gary Bradford
Just for the record, Mr. Chairman, I knew all that.
4Mar 21, 2023
Board of County CommissionersP51Public hearingApproved
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Approved to transmit the item by roll call vote.
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Jack MarianoChair
All right, item P fifty one.
Clerk
Uh the approval? Yes, the item was uh published in the Tampa Bay Times on January 4th, 2023 and March first, 2023, by affidavit of certified mailings.
Kathy Pearson
Yeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Yeah. He wished you a happy anniversary, even there.
Kathryn Starkey
Oh, thank you. I'm hoping I get to make my dinner, but me
Unidentified speakerVoice C
too.
Kathryn Starkey
Mm-hmm. My husband's like, Get
Amy Heiler
in the car. I'll try to make this quick for ya. I know
Kathryn Starkey
this is Well I'm very excited about this. This is very special what we're doing here. So the anniversary or the ordinance? No this this ordin this ordinance. This ordinance is very good.
Amy Heiler
All right. Uh good afternoon. Amy Heiler with Long Range Planning. This is the transmittal hearing for a proposed large scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of CPAL 2201 Odessa Town Center PD. The subject property is located in the South Market area and urban service area. So the first couple slides is gonna go through a little historical background of the project and the scope of work that occurred. Um on 1014, 2021, uh the county
initiated a comprehensive plan or or strategized working towards initiating a proposed comprehensive plan amendment that is staff initiated or county initiated. The area is located west of Governor. Highway north of Interlake and along State Road 54. This is where the old flea market is located. And so at this meeting, uh you'll see the proposed conceptual plan that was uh that was crafted by the the um by
our develop not developers but I'm sorry, I'm losing my the time. Planning department. Not just the planning department, the the consultant. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. So that was crafted by the consultant to kind of give a visual representation of what could have occurred in this area and what some of the strategies that the planning department wanted to see in this area being your mixed use, vertically integrated, and employment generating land uses. At this meet neighborhood meeting we showed this visual and
cr ended up gathering some comments from the attendees at this meeting, um, which is represented here and it is also in your attachment as um uh to a summary of what the comments were. So With some of the comments that were captured, we were went back to the drawing board, worked with our consultant, and crafted three scenarios. So the first scenario that you see here on the left, on the upper left corner, is a scenario that is basically
taking into consideration status quo, how the development is occurring as is, without any change. As being your multifamily development. So, this is visualizing what this area would look like with an additional multifamily development. Your second scenario here is taking into consideration the existing uses along Gun Highway and Interlakin, and integrating some of these mixed use planning efforts, being your multifamily higher density
residential, your employment generating land uses, any commercial retail office opportunities that we would see in this area. There's also an interlacing Integrated roadway network to ensure that there is internal capture and provide that alternative relief to both Gun Highway and State Road 54. And then scenario three is just a complete overhaul. Scenario three is disregarding the existing land use and saying these are the proposed uses that we would like to
see here in these proposed locations.
So after we went to the drawing board and received some of those conceptual plans, we had a second neighborhood meeting on 512 of 2022. These are some of the slides that were presented at that neighborhood meeting. Basically going through these proposed conceptual plans, but also engaging the community in various ways. What you see here are two separate activities. That we had, it was basically like a charrette. We had 18 by 24 inch maps printed, conceptual
plants printed. We had trace paper on top, and we put the planning effort in the hands of the community. So we had various engagement opportunities for them to provide us with some recommendations, ask questions, and advise. On what some of the uses or where the uses they would like to see in these areas. So scenario one or activity one. Was basically a review and a collaboration of sticky notes to say what are
some of the things that you would like to see here and what are some of the concerns that you have in this area. And then activity two was our breakout session where the community did engage in these area plans and put little dots on where they wanted to see some of these uses occur. And so here are just some visuals capturing the outcome of how many people attended. It was pretty a pretty good out turn pr pretty good turnout. Almost every landowner. And after that meeting, we ended up going back and
uh captured some of those comments with the consultant. So this is the third round of uh quote unquote conceptual plans that we used to capture uh meetings or capture capture information from both of those neighborhood meetings. So scenario one, maintaining status quo, still that reflecting the uh multi. Multifamily units in that area. Scenario 2: As you'll see, there is a little bit of change where some of the buildings are placed along the frontages of the right-of-way.
The red is representing more of your mixed-use commercial areas, the yellows representing your residential, purples representing your industrial, and the blue is representing your office use. So scenario two still maintains status quo, took into consideration the existing land uses. As you all are mainly aware, we do have the Lowe's project coming in as well. So Lowe's being located at the southwest corner of State Road 54 and Gun Highway. That
was also taken into consideration when scenario two was drafted, and then scenario three. complete overhaul where you have your non-residential uses, your mixed uses of your commercial retail or commercial and residential located up along the frontage of 54, and then some of your employment generating uses located internally. And these are some of the meeting notes and concerns that we did receive as a summary from that neighborhood meeting as well. And as
you'll note on some of these comments, basically the main one of the main concerns that we did receive from residents was the fact that they just didn't want this change or this plan to negatively impact their project or their project. I'm sorry. And so here's just some representations of the engagements that we had and some of the concerns from these overlays and that breakout session. So, with that,
here we are. So, we are here to propose a staff-initiated comprehensive plan amendment. As you see here, the proposal is to amend the future land use from a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to maps 2-15 and sheet 22 from Res9 and ROR to PD on approximately 81.47 acres. It is located at the southwest corner. The intersection of State Road 54 and Gun Highway, and an amend and a resolution to the proposal is to amend feature land use maps 2-15
and sheet 22, as well as create sub-area policy 7.1.68 Odessa Town Center PD, and amend map 2-9, creating map 2-968 in the name of Odessa Town Center PD. There is an accompanying rezoning that you shall be hearing. Um within the next couple months or so, weeks or so, probably four to six weeks anticipating, and that is going to be for a portion of the overall Odessa Town Center PD. So these are
the policies that the proposed amendment is consistent with.
As you see the subject site is located at fifty four and gun highway, north of Interlaken. Uh the existing future land use being Res9 and R O R The existing flu being P D. And this is the accompanying conceptual plan. So within the Odessa Town Center PD, we have established this area in villages. So we have three separate villages. We have a village EG represented in
your goldish color, goldish, ground, brownish, yellowish color. Village L I in your purple color, and village Village MU, EG is the employment generating use, or village L I is the light industry village, and MU is your mixed-use village. So I'll go into just a little bit of detail on this. So the mixed-use village is going to be where your high density residential is primarily located. This village is intended
to act as a mixed mixed-use village with your Residential, non-residential employment generating uses. We are also imposing the requirement that or policy directive that we have been discussing for quite some time now, where any of the non-residential uses or excuse me, any of the multifamily uses located up along State Road 54 shall be vertically integrated. So the applicant or the proposed MPUD or Portion of the proposed MPD will be accommodate, accommodating
that. However, this area is intended to be within the sub-area policy, the Odessa Town Center allows for 32 dwelling units per gross acre as a density, and it also allows for 3.0 floor area ratio as your intensity that will be implemented through a series of MPUDs over time. So the mixed use. village is where your residential components, higher density residential, is going to be primarily located. Your light industry, which is located along Gun Highway, the light industry
was crafted to maintain status quo if you look at the existing excuse me. Oh I don't have the zoning in here. Okay, well, if you look at the existing zoning land use, it is C2 currently with ROR. We wanted to maintain that. So those those residents are not negatively impacted by this. They are maintaining status quo, still have that opportunity for your employment-generating land uses as well as your retail office commercial uses along the corridor. Internally, however, that is where
one of the major major changes are occurring. That's going to be your village. EG. That is where your employment generating target industry village or target industry uses are going to be prioritized internally within this area. As you see, there are also roadway segments delineated in this conceptual plan. This is going to be treated as your local internal capture roadway to ensure that there is capacity alleviated from State Road 54 and internal capture as well. And then within
the sub-area policy, just to ensure everybody's aware, we do have a language in the sub-area policy that if a property owner does not want to opt in to the Odessa Town Center PD, they still have the right to use the prop property as is to the full extent. So they would not negatively be impacted by any of these changes. Mm-hmm. So with that, we would like to uh recommend or authori ask you to authorize transmittal of the proposed amendment
to DEO and the other reviewing agencies. And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Jack MarianoChair
Commissioner Starkey. Well this was
Kathryn Starkey
Yeah, this was a really interesting um educational experience. You know, we we held these meetings at the Starkey TLC. invited all the landowners. The only one I think that didn't come maybe was Eric Swajnan just 'cause I I don't know why we just didn't have his contact information. But he's in. And we would have had this before, but we had another landowner say, Wait, wait, I want my property to be in this as well. Correct. So so we had to wait and readvertise.
And And he had a big piece and so he has joined here. I only wish We had started this before the Lowe's came in. Because We would have made it. fit better I think. Um But there's a trail system going. We're we're not getting into any of that with the trail or
Amy Heiler
um yes, I
Kathryn Starkey
can go into that a
Amy Heiler
little bit. Sure. Yeah. So uh you will and this will be you'll see more of a visual when the MPD comes in that will implement this a little bit stronger. But yes, um along State Road 54, there is a trail. Um it is going to be connected, and I believe that this is going to connect. In the future to the Orange Belt. Correct. And so there is a trail proposed along the western boundary where your mixed use is from State Road 54 to Interlaken. There's also a
trail within the m the center of the project being located along Blissfield. So in what you'll see is you'll have a trail along the western, the trail will connect through Blissfield. Up gun and then through or up old gun and then through the Lowe's project to Gun Highway, and that will provide a level of connectivity from the school to the old gun highway, and in the end it will connect to the old Orange Belt Trail System.
Kathryn Starkey
And right near here, there will be a mid-block crossing for that orange belt to get across the street to Starkey. And that trail going down between um the on the left edge or the western edge of this to interlock in, that that goes to a couple of schools and a church that are back there. And it a and it activates the community that's down there, Trinity East and others, um to be able to go to the restaurants that will be along fifty-four uh on the first floor of the building that
will be along fifty four. Um without having to you know, they can do it they can come in a golf cart, they can come on a bike, they can walk the stroller. And so it acts it's really activates this as pedestrian center. So pretty excited about it.
Yeah. I it is p I think there's some residents here.
Jack MarianoChair
All right. And there's a public hearing, so any public like to speak to this item?
Kathryn Starkey
We do have one person who signed up, Gerald Speer.
Gerald Speer
Uh my name is Gerald Speer. I live at [address removed], and I have been sworn in. Uh I have some things here I'd like to enter into evidence.
Kathryn Starkey
Move
Gerald Speer
to
Kathryn Starkey
a
Kathryn Starkey
Stephen File.
Gerald Speer
Sag it. Roll call vote. I made one for each one at the
Kathryn Starkey
District One, Commissioner Oakley.
Gerald Speer
Aye.
Kathryn Starkey
District two, Commissioner Weightman.
Gerald Speer
Bye.
Kathryn Starkey
District 3, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District 4, Commissioner Bradford.
Gary Bradford
Aye.
Kathryn Starkey
District 5, Chairman Mariano. Aye.
Go ahead.
Gerald Speer
Well I was hoping you could get the pictures I could go with them and explain to you as I Um Uh I would like to mention the one thing about you uh you were saying earlier about we'd have choices to sell or not. Well, unfortunately I have one of the smallest pieces of property, so it's you have very little minimum of what you can do with it. And you've decided to make my property a park. Uh I have no problem. I think what you're doing is uh uh gonna be a wonderful when it's finished it's
gonna be something really wonderful. Uh but I will not have a choice on selling or not because on one site well first let's go since you have the pro uh pictures. Uh when you turn uh off of Monmouth Road, that that that's Blitzfield Road, it says number one on it at the top. This is uh Blitzfield Road. And uh that's if you see at one time I had b uh beautiful trees and people living there and that's been taken away from
me. Now I have all as a as a white fence. Uh when I turned left into my property in picture number two, uh that's that is the house I live in. And if you look, that's the driveway that I turn in for off of Blitzfield. Picture thicker three is if you're on my front porch, which I have a beautiful big southern back uh front porch that you can stay on. If you look in the that's what my front porch is. All it is is construction now in front
of me. Uh if you look Uh a picture number four it shows some of the equipment that they're bringing in to work in now, what they're doing now to Yeah.
Uh I was told at one of the meetings that uh the w this probably wasn't exempted uh at the at the time. But some of this stuff would not be done until we were bought out or a developer come in. Because uh this construction it wakes me up sometimes in the mornings when the the the noise it makes, the these machines hitting the ground and stuff. Uh if you look at picture number uh five, it shows uh from the front uh
that there's where that tree stump and stuff is. They're putting in a a road so that they can build that uh on in picture number six where you can see uh mission self-storage. That's what's coin in the front of me.
And then the last picture is a picture of uh if you look at the top of my house, it's a the it's a large house. It's it's it's a it's it's a big house. And on the right side of the picture is a long part. If if you if you look at the paperwork that I give you with that. uh mainly stuff in the yellow Uh if you look at uh my house is in the big yellow all yellow spot, that's where the park will be. That's where the house sits. And if you look Um
That you if you put a road through there like it might be planned it someday, my house will be tore up right there. Uh if you look at the front of it, uh on the map too. Blitzfield will be w uh widened so it takes the front of the property a lot of it. If you look at the back of it, it says that that's where one of your trails are going to come through, which is a good idea for a park to have a trail next to it. I agree. What you're doing is a wonderful thing. But I am going to have
to leave. Uh I'm seventy years old. If this takes five years to do, and I'm seventy five, I I've already been in the hospital uh last year once. Uh I've got another hernia that I have to go to the surgeon next Weak. to find out when I can have this fixed. I've had so many uh you know, at the age I'm getting, the moving is gonna be very, very hard on me. And I feel an urgency to come to you guys and try to get this done so
that you can either buy my house or get me moved. Because w if I get to be eighty, I'm not going to be able I I can't move. And this stuff has to be done. So I am the one piece of property out of all the land that you're talking about. I'm not trying to stop you from doing any of this. I commend what it's gonna look like when it's done. It's gonna be beautiful. Uh it's sad for me because I have it if you if you look at the lat the second piece of paper. Uh in nineteen ninety
four. Uh and two thousand uh yeah, two thousand four, I bought this piece of property and I saved this piece. I paid ninety-two thousand dollars for this house uh nineteen years ago. So when I sell it and I have to move, of course I'm gonna have to, it's just time. Uh my property tax is gonna go up wherever I go. Uh I'll no longer have a well receptive so I'll start having to p my uh all my bills are gonna go up. Everything And
I understand that and I'm willing to take the responsibility. But I'm asking uh for an urgency to you guys to help me 'cause I feel like that if you guys don't, that I'm gonna have to go to some kind of uh commercial real estate people and try to get help. 'Cause I I ha I I'm gonna have I I don't wanna be stuck and the county just run over me. And I would like some input from you guys because I'm really uh you know, the older
you get the more you worry about, you know, am I gonna have to live my remaining ten, fifteen years in a trailer in some trailer lot? Is that what you guys are gonna put me in?
Kathryn Starkey
I think your time's up, but
Gerald Speer
I I I requested for ten minutes. I came down here. And I can show you the piece of paper. I I didn't get the request. No,
Jack MarianoChair
sorry.
Gerald Speer
But I I here's a piece of paper I came down here and requested for it for ten minutes.
Jack MarianoChair
Okay. I I didn't see it. Did you get a response from
Gerald Speer
somebody?
Kathryn Starkey
Yeah. Um can we can we get the planning director to come up and explain how this would work for him? 'Cause he has legitimate questions.
Jack MarianoChair
Thank you.
Kathryn Starkey
And I'm trying to find on the project
Jack MarianoChair
before we get to
Kathryn Starkey
I have a question for Terry.
Jack MarianoChair
So let's hang on. So we'll we'll talk with you even after the meeting, sir?
Gerald Speer
Sure. I'm just I'm just worried I don't want to end up my last fifteen years in a in a eight hundred foot foot square trailer.
Jack MarianoChair
And I think if you'll we'll meet with you after, but if you if you would go on. Is anyone else here from pu to speak on this item? Public comment? Yes, sir. Have you been you were sworn in? Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Doesn't matter, this is legislative. Okay. So let me know. We moved the legislative.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
All right.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
I'm a Herbert
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Heap, live at [address removed]. And if you come out of the southwest rear corner of the flea market, you're gonna be looking at a place. Got twelve acres there. Got road frontage on my north side is Blissfield Road, east side is Old Gun Highway. I got a r right away going out to Inter Lake on the South. And let's see, Pasco County School Bus Garage is on my uh rear side, uh west side, and then Lynn's Abel, which is sitting back there, has ten acres on my west side. And I feel like
I got a big target on me. With that big piece of ground sitting right where I believe somebody wants to put a town center. When we started all this about two years ago we had a Bef before I had I tell you, my wife was with me uh when we started this two years ago. Two weeks ago my wife passed away at hospice at Gulfside. So I'm doing this alone now. Anyway, uh Two years ago. There's a fellow showed up named Michael Seltzer. Seltzer Sakehouses
sound familiar? Same guy from Montreal. Said his client was Sovereign Company. which and they s give a plan and the plan is right up there. And so now two years later we're working on the plan. And a couple of the problems is there's two roads I'm gonna put in. If I'm not living there, that's fine. But if I'm living there the it looks like it's gonna go through my house. The other problem was Everybody because we got that twelve acres at that corner
We got probably about a hundred different people coming after the property And you oughta see the letters of intent, the most fraudulent pieces of Not very nice stuff anyway. Well if a Pasco County could really get in there and get a legitimate Developer uh I'll move. You know, give me the money, I'll move. Money talks, you know how it goes. But uh just get some legitimate people in there and do the development. Not somebody sneaking in the back door of the courthouse trying to, hey, we'll get this old guy outta here. You know what I
m understand what I mean, any of you or It's When you got that big a property, I'm sitting on the corner And if we don't sell it That sort of ties up everybody else's property too. So okay. Well, I don't know, I'm out of time maybe. You still got a minute to go. Okay, you all understand what I'm talking about. I've been there I've been there uh fifty one years. We bought it December of uh Nineteen seventy one and we built that house and And my wife and I uh carved our homestead out there. And
uh because of an operation over here at the hospital. He botched the operation and And it didn't work and my wife has passed away and so I don't know what I'm gonna do now. I'm one guy on one big piece of ground. And they all want me out of there. Got white hair and an old guy. Okay, I'm running out of time.
Jack MarianoChair
Sir, just a quick question for you.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Yeah.
Jack MarianoChair
Um did you say you were at the corner of Gun Highway in Blissfield?
Unidentified speakerVoice D
I'm old excuse me. I think it's the old Gun Highway in Blissfield. And if you came out the Southwest, I probably did. I'm not sure.
Jack MarianoChair
I just want to make sure I knew. Yeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Okay. Well, say my wife went in the hospital December 19th and I was with I've been with her every day. even to the day she died and and seven days a week and I'm really tired. And uh and then they have the planning meeting which was about a month ago, wasn't it, I believe, and we had I came to it and now I come to this meeting and Like I said, I'm really tired, not thinking straight, but Gotta be here. This old guy's here, I'm willing to sell. I believe we talked to Kathryn at one of the meetings. She said, Would you be willing to sell? Yes,
we'd be willing to sell, but let's get a legitimate developer, s not a bunch of shysters. You know, uh at the uh Just trying to think, it must have been at the planning meeting. One of the lawyers stood up and looked back at our area, the flea market. He says this blighted area. Well we might be blighted. But I've been there for fifty one years and it's paid for, my house is paid for. And uh I d I don't wanna move, but now that I've lost my wife it's really Change my thinking.
Kathryn Starkey
Yeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
And uh I know uh
Kathryn Starkey
I'm so sorry.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
I know you got some big plans for the area. And I I and they're good plans, they sound good. But just watch these developers and I don't like the way they like to sneak in the back door of the courthouse and talk to people behind your back. It's not exactly the sunshine law. It's not transparent. You want to talk to us? Get us at a round table, sit down and hey, this is what we like to do. And these people are legitimate. You know, I don't need a bunch of size too.
Kathryn Starkey
I'll get with you after the meeting.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Can you understand what
Kathryn Starkey
I'm saying? Not today.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Okay. Okay, talk about it.
Kathryn Starkey
Next week, yes, I will definitely get with you. Okay, thank you. Um
Jack MarianoChair
anyone s anyone here from public comment?
Kathryn Starkey
I I do want um someone from the Pl oh should
Jack MarianoChair
Okay.
Kathryn Starkey
Oh. She's here for public comment.
Unidentified speakerVoice E
Christy Barrera with Height Design. I represent the Gato MPUD, which is on the western side. It's about 15 acres. Amy was alluding to it earlier. We've been working with staff on the north-south trail as long as well as the east-west trail along Blissfield. And you'll be hearing about our MPUD in May or June. We'll be here before you. But just wanted to say I support the county in this Comp Plan amendment. And we're looking forward to bringing the MPD forward as this moves forward as well.
Nectarios Pittos
Okay.
Kathryn Starkey
So
Unidentified speakerVoice E
I didn't know if you had any questions about the Gato project specifically, but I'm here to answer anything you have.
Kathryn Starkey
Well I will just let you all know that um that we have strung this developer on. For at least an extra year as we went through this process, but um we had a willing seller. that was willing to wait and you know this this company that's coming is very well funded So everyone could hang on uh um because it took a long time to get this plan through and you know we want to make sure we met with the community and they they understood and you know this is
not an area Th this is this is an area where people have lived for a long time and they're not developers and they're not builders and they're not planners. So it um I really appreciate them coming along with us. We haven't had anyone sell. uh since we went through this though y they are circling, circling around, as you heard. Um but it would have been uh a kind of community that no one would have really liked, you know, if we were letting it go without this kind of plan. And they can
still do that. But our hope is that we we end up with a really good community. um plan here. That's to everyone's advantage and by us take by the county taking on the cost of upzoning, because that's kind of what we did here. Um we increased we believe we increased the value of their property. Uh I thought I thought we were gonna have a land use attorney here to help explain this, so I I guess I'm not a land use attorney, but we did we we took the guesswork out of the zoning. For
Uh or is it zoning or comp plan change? What's the right word?
We took the uncertainty out of a comp plan change for anyone for developers and we and and the residents did not have to pay for it. So that is the benefit, if I'm saying that right, of doing something like this. Did I say that right? Yeah. Any do you guys have any any questions? Anyone have a question? Hang on.
I am not gonna make my anniversary dinner till six o'clock in Dunedin. I will be very brief.
Gary Bradford
And I'm not sure. Uh I appreciate your uh I appreciate the developer. I appreciate everything. This is a great project. If we could find the money to uh We can pay off mortgages for sinkholes. And other neighborhoods. We should be able to help two of our elderly citizens. Now how you do that, I don't know. I'm not one of the lawyers. But uh I do know that uh
It's great to develop, it's great to create jobs. Love I I love everything about it. We cannot leave a vulnerable citizen behind.
Kathryn Starkey
I I think you're gonna find when this is done that they're gonna Not have any issues.
Gary Bradford
Thank you very much and I hope you enjoy your anniversary. Okay.
Nectarios Pittos
Mr. Chairman Mariano Commissioner Starkey had asked the question earlier. So w one thing for the board to know and for the community to know is that The way we designed this uh sub area plan and policy was to maximize the flexibility of the existing landowners such that if they want to sell, they it's their choice. And if they want to stay, again it's their choice. And their existing current uses may remain there until such
time that they choose to sell and when they do sell the new developer or the new property owner that comes along will then have to comply with whatever zoning changes they want to make that are consistent with the comprehensive plan that is proposed before you today.
Jack MarianoChair
So Mr. County Attorney, is it best just to let these gentlemen talk with the developer coming in at this point?
Kathryn Starkey
Well that's the only way.
Jack MarianoChair
So
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Yes, I mean they they have the choice of of maintaining their property the way it is. Now the conditions are changing around them. Um or to have or or to deal with who whoever becomes the master or multiple master developers of the of the this conceptual plan. So best for them to wait just a little bit
Jack MarianoChair
longer then?
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Yeah, I
Jack MarianoChair
guess probably best you wait a little bit longer and then get
Kathryn Starkey
Yeah that there and I My my office will will help all weekend. Okay. Uh but this is gonna generate activity.
Jack MarianoChair
Okay. Is there any other public to speak to this item?
Kathryn Starkey
Mr. Chair, I don't know if I stated on the record, but there's no one on WebEx for this item.
Jack MarianoChair
No on WebEx, I don't see any rose comment full of closed public comment. Do we have a motion?
Kathryn Starkey
Move to
approve.
Jack MarianoChair
Move that would be moved to transmit it. Move
Kathryn Starkey
to transmit this.
Jack MarianoChair
Okay. Motion is second. Roll call vote.
Kathryn Starkey
District one, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman.
Kevin Frazier
Uh-huh.
Kathryn Starkey
District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District five, Chairman Mariano.
Barry Jackson
Aye.
Kathryn Starkey
And I will
Barry Jackson
say
Kathryn Starkey
Terry said that this was uh a project that his department Really enjoyed getting in and having this experience. And I've got another site for them, but he says they're busy. But You might find some in your district.
Jack MarianoChair
This was a great project you brought forward. You did it the right way. And just like Liam's working with our commercial stuff not nearly as uh intense as this, but that's what we need to do just like we did in Boatyard and Hudson too a little while ago. So great job. Thank you. All right, so we'll I've just got uh the committee reports to go, so Uh County Administrator.
5May 23, 2023
Board of County CommissionersP55Public hearingContinued
~~Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAL22(01) Odessa Town Centre PD (Planned Development) - Transmittal Of The Proposed~~ Providing for A Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment … (Planned Development) On Approximately ~~86.38~~ 81.47 Acres Of Real Property … Amendment Creating Subarea Policy ~~FLU~~ Flu 7.1.68 – Odessa Town … As Necessary For Internal ~~Consistency~~ Consistency.
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Kathryn Starkey
Yes, advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on January fourth, twenty twenty three.
Ron OakleyVice Chair
Item P 55 is providing for a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map 2-15 and Sheet 22 from Res 9 residential 9 dwelling respect, gross acre, and ROR retail office residential to PD plan development on approximately 81.47 acres of real property located at the southwest corner of the intersection at State Road 54 and Gunn Highway, and a text amendment creating sub-area policy flu 7.1.
And a map amendment to the future land use map two dash nine, adding sub area map two dash nine sixty eight, Odessa, Odessa Town Center P D and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for an internal consistency. This is a request for a continuance to a date uncertain.
Mainly to align with the M with an M PUD that's currently making its way through the public hearing process. It just needed to be readvertised anyway. So it'll come together.
Kathryn Starkey
Uh Move to continue.
Jack MarianoChair
Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. MP56.
Kathryn Starkey
Um I apologize. Uh Chairman, there was somebody signed up for P fifty five. Did we need to take public comment on the no? This
Unidentified speakerVoice B
advertised as a continuance.
6Jun 20, 2023
Board of County CommissionersP45Public hearingAdopted
~~Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAL22(01) Odessa Town Centre PD (Planned Development) - Transmittal Of~~ An Ordinance Amending The ~~Proposed~~ Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Providing For A Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment … 22) From RES-9 (Residential-9 ~~DU/GA)~~ Du/Ga) And ROR (Retail/Office/Residential) To … As Necessary For Internal ~~Consistency~~ Consistency; Providing For A Repealer, Severability, And An Effective Date
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Kathryn Starkey
Item P 45 was published in the Tampa Times on January 4, 2023 and June 7, 2023.
Ron OakleyVice Chair
Item P forty five, I'll read the title into record. In ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a large scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map two-fifteen and sheet twenty-two from Res 9, Residential Nine Dwelling Units per Gross Acre, and ROR, Retail Office Residential. to P D Plan Development on approximately eighty-six point three eight acres of real property located at the southwest corner of the intersection at State Road fifty four and Gunn Highway, and a text amendment creating sub-area policy flu seven dot one dot sixty eight Odessa Town Center, PD. And a map
amendment to the future land use map map two-nine, adding sub-area map two-nine sixty eight, Modesta Town Center PD, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for the internal consistency, providing for repeat or serverability on effective date. This comes with a recommendation of approval. We have staff to do the presentation.
I believe there is someone to speak to the height.
Kathryn Starkey
Well I I I want everyone to see it. I want everyone to see it. See the work that we did.
Jack MarianoChair
Okay, let's let's do a presentation.
Amy Heiler
All right, good afternoon. Amy Toll with Planning and Development. The item before you today is the adoption hearing for the c uh small or large-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Odessa Town Center.
Kathryn Starkey
It
Amy Heiler
moved. No more case. Okay. Sorry about that. Um so the proposal is a uh comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Odessa Town Center. The uh comprehensive plan amendment is amending the future land use, which is existing currently as uh Res9, residential nine dwelling units per gross acre, and ROR Retail Office Residential to PD Plan Development. There's also an associated sub-area policy included in this plan amendment that establishes
a series of three villages within this area, as well as guiding design principles to ensure connectivity, land use placement, and open space criteria involved within this plan development. The subject site is located generally at the southwest corner of State Road 54 and Gun Highway. And the property is located in the South Market area. Here is your visual for the aerial showing where it is located at the
southwest corner of Gun Highway and Interlakin. And the future LAN use currently is ROR and Res9. And the existing uh or the proposed future land use is P D. So, as you most of you are aware, uh this is a approximately a two-year venture. Uh, we had a series of neighborhood meetings over the last couple years to gather input and and information from the community to plan this area, uh, to align with
the intent of you know what we wanted to establish here being a uh uh village core j prioritizing. I'm sorry, prioritizing employment generating uses. However, we did take into consideration the existing residents and kind of brought them involved into the planning aspect to see what they would like to see and how we can incorporate that into the plan development. So this is that was just a couple images of the neighborhood meetings that occurred as a result. Thank
you. We had um Three we had a consultant draft up three scenarios in relation to the comments that were received from the community. So scenario one was retaining status quo, meaning simply putting in multifamily, that is your normal type of development pattern. Scenario two was taking into consideration your existing usage. And existing infrastructure and kind of retrofitting in a mixed-use
type development. And scenario three was a complete overhaul, disregarding what the existing land uses were, and then completely overhauling that area. So with this plan and after taking into consideration the community's wants and needs, we went with scenario two.
So, this is going to be your conceptual plan that runs alongside the planned development. The conceptual plan establishes the different land use categories being villages. The three villages that you see here are villages EG, which is employment generating, village LI, which is light industry, and village MU being mixed use. The mixed-use village is going to be your primary residentially led village. That allows for multifamily, no single family will be incorporated in this area. So multifamily attached
with commercial retail components as well. The EG area being your middle portion or the yellow-goldish color. That's going to be your employment generating. That is target industry led, employment generating led. No residential uses are permitted within this. Area and then the I L or L I excuse me light industry along Gun Highway and Interlakin. That area is prioritized to retain what's already existing, being your ROR future land use and your
C2 zoning. So it kind of kind of retained what was already existing, being commercial light industry led, with the opportunity to allow for residential to occur only if vertically integrated.
So the proposed comprehensive plan amendments are consistent with the following policies. As you can note, policy flu 8.1.2 being your south market area, policy flu 1.4.3, transitional land uses, policy flu 1.4.7, limits on industrial uses, policy flu 1.6.7, hierarchy of access, policy ED 1.4.4, limitations of conversions of implementation. Important employment locations, policy flu 9.1.7, urban service area, and policy
flu 1.8.7 and 1.8.70, which uh preserves the economic development of the area. It's important to note policy ED 1.4.4 and policy flu 1.8.7 and 1.8.10, as those policies. Are set in place in the comprehensive plan to ensure that employment generating uses are prioritized in this area or prioritized just in general. So with the Odessa Town Center, we ensured that the
existing employment generating capacity within the ROR future land use was not diminished and it was actually enhanced, as well as the creation of the employment generated. Village and the light industry village both retained the existing employment generating capacity along Gun Highway as well as increased the employment generating capacity within this corridor itself. Oops, sorry. I think it worked. It like worked, but it doesn't work. Okay. Um so with that, the recommendation is to find the proposed amendment
consistent with the comprehensive plan and adopt by roll call vote. And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Jack MarianoChair
Uh any questions for staff?
Kathryn Starkey
No questions. I'm just excited and grateful that we had this opportunity and um It would be very good for the community and the county, so and the residents.
Jack MarianoChair
Well I thought you had your public meetings and get the community involved. Commissioner Weightman.
Seth Weightman
Thank you. Good work, Commissioner Starkey. Starkey. This looks good.
Jack MarianoChair
Yeah.
Seth Weightman
Now to protect it based
Unidentified speakerVoice F
Yeah.
Seth Weightman
And live local in our discussion this morning, we need to condition or deed restrict the zonings that are in here, especially the job creating sites. How do we how do we do that? I guess this is a county attorney question. Because I have several notes and the same question is going to be a redundant theme throughout today's Uh afternoon session, so how do we how do we protect what's being created here and not eroding away to The live local issue.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
If the if the applic I I think as Mr. Goldstein explained this morning, um the MPU generally the MPUDs and the straight zonings that are or Euclidean zonings that are coming forward are either deed restricting or conditioning They're um their projects um You can uh I don't believe if you uh I don't believe it Yeah. You can't really s
um can uh put a sub-area policy on this that basically says you're not gonna allow Live local to apply. It has to be an applicant choice. Is that
Unidentified speakerVoice A
possible? Can I can I add uh there's actually one awakening your agenda, the Gito MPD where they have voluntarily agreed to not that their mixed use area will not be subject to Senate Bill one oh two. So we are handling it at the zoning stage. As opposed to the comp plan stage.
Commissioner
Gary Bradford
Weightman
Jack MarianoChair
This is Commissioner Bradford, could you hang on for a minute? We'll just let Mr. Goldstein come and then we'll come back to you.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
I'm sorry.
Gary Bradford
I'm sorry, I didn't hear it.
Jack MarianoChair
Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Trust me, all these have to go through me. Can you? Um I don't let staff. rezoned a commercial industrial without addressing this issue. You can ask them. I yell at them all the time. Okay.
Jack MarianoChair
Commissioner
Unidentified speakerVoice A
Bradford.
Jack MarianoChair
I'm sorry.
Gary Bradford
I got a question and I don't know if it's uh for staff or the commissioner. What is it, Euclidean? What was that word,
Unidentified speakerVoice B
Euclidean? Euclidean zoning. Euclidean zoning is
Gary Bradford
that
Unidentified speakerVoice B
is your is your otherwise known as your straight zoning categories. It is the C two, C one, uh, M F one, uh those categories that are not planned development.
Gary Bradford
Okay, thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice B
And it ca it it comes from the long time Supreme Court case of the Village of Amber versus Euclid, which is why it's called Euclides.
Kathryn Starkey
Oh, that's interesting. I thought it was something Latin.
Jack MarianoChair
I thought so too.
Kathryn Starkey
We'll
Jack MarianoChair
learn it today, Mr. Brad Commissioner Bradford. Thank you. Yeah. Uh Commissioner Weightman. Thank you.
Gary Bradford
I know that Siri's having a hard time with it too.
Seth Weightman
Yeah, so thank you, Chair. Thank you, Commissioner Bradford. So Mr. Goldstein We vote on this today. We're not jeopardizing the zonings that are currently being proposed within this project.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
That is correct. And as as zonings come in within this
We will make sure that there are a lot of people. Well we can't really force it, but we strongly suggest that they privately detristrict the property so that They cannot put multifamily in the industrial or commercial or mixed use areas. If for some reason somebody refused to privately restrict it I would make staff put some disclosure in the agenda memo saying that they refuse to do it. So that the board was fully aware that they were refusing to do it.
So far every project that's come in with commercial, mixed use or industrial Since Live Local Act was adopted, they voluntarily have agreed to this condition. So
Seth Weightman
We're making a bet by voting on this today versus having that commitment before this vote. You don't have that commitment now.
Unidentified speakerVoice A
That the problem is you can't We can't impose it. So the point is that the And they can't
Unidentified speakerVoice B
and they can't use it because this is a comp plan amendment. They'd have to have the zoning in place to be able to To do that. Okay.
Ron OakleyVice Chair
In addition, just in this particular comprehensive plan amendment case is a county initiated. So it's been county led and brought to this point.
Amy Heiler
I do also want to add, um, with this plan amendment, although it is going to PD, we do have some provisions in place that kind of allows for whoever is a current zoning district now that it's not gonna impact them. But if there is any change proposed, they will have to amend to an MPUD at the time of rezoning. So
Jack MarianoChair
Hmm,
Gary Bradford
okay. Okay.
Jack MarianoChair
All right. Any other questions for staff? All right. And we do have one person signed for public comment.
Kathryn Starkey
Yes, we do, Mr. Chair. Herbert Heap.
Mr. Heap if you would just state your name and address for the record and then you can start.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
Herbert Heap live at [address removed]. I'm sure you're all familiar with me. I got the land Commissioner Starkey knows. One time over at the meeting at the school you said, Well you've had your little bit of paradise in Odessa. Well, you're right. We had it. It's gone. But anyway, uh I won't land on corner of Gun Highway and Blessfield Road, old Gun Highway. Make it get it right there. and uh my land goes clear down to Interlakin I got
a Pasco County school bus garage on one Western Corner and Lynn Sable. Has ten acres on my West Side also. What I was concerned about on One of these maps at uh Conceptual Plans is showing two roads they wanted to put in. And if they put 'em in they're both going through my land. Now if I'm still there Is that I mean it's gonna be a problem. What I'm trying to say is are they gonna wait and do this after the land is developed or sold or That's one of the problems. I've had a
Quite a few people contact me, naturally, having that corner, and they think this dumb old guy doesn't know any difference and that uh what's going on in the neighborhood But uh anyway, uh how how am I gonna figure out? Does Pasco County want to help find a good developer and put in there? But I g you won't believe I bet you I've got a hundred letters, phone calls. People contacted me. Matter of fact I've had to block some of them. One guy called me eight times in one day and his wife parked
his her Mercedes over there on Old Gun Highway and she would get out and walk up and down the road taking pictures. This went on for about three months until I blocked their phones and I guess they decided I didn't want to sell. But anyway this is some of the questions I uh Own on that corner I guess I'm sorta tying everything up in the Odessa town center. Yeah I wanna know is I would sell As you all know, I lost my wife March uh sixth and uh and I'm doing this alone now. And I know you all know
me and uh I just wanna know uh are you gonna run me out of there or
Kathryn Starkey
Um so Mr. Starkey. Yeah, we we've tried to explain this at the Planning Commission and at our um meeting before. But maybe I would well we have an I'm not sure who is the right person to speak to you outside uh Mr. Karbala who who so so we can explain to him how it works. Uh
Mike Carballa
someone from planning could probably handle that.
Kathryn Starkey
Can but we have a new okay.
Jack MarianoChair
Maybe Sir, if you could maybe maybe wait till the end of this meeting and then we'll get you with a staff project
Kathryn Starkey
to sit down. Yeah, let's wait till this is over.
And no one's gonna put a road over your property. That it that isn't how it works. Um we will um Uh m uh maybe I'll just bring you into my office and we'll sit down with staff and we'll
What it is because I know There have been people circling all around here. Um who have been Um Trying to take advantage of some people there. And you know what we did in doing this was increase all their property values. But Um N not everyone understands how development works. It's complicated, uh especially in this kind of uh change of plan, so why don't I get you into my office and we'll work. We'll we'll help you.
Unidentified speakerVoice D
I appreciate it. Just if I get somebody just t talk to me honestly. Right. And quit trying to I can't say all those words in here but anyway uh Bamboozum. Because yeah. And I was thinking, you know, we got that big tower up there on the corner, got a lot of vultures on it. Well we got a lot of vultures circling my property. Yes. Circling me and trying to get a hold of it.
Kathryn Starkey
Well how
Unidentified speakerVoice D
you wait okay I'll get out of your way. I just want
Kathryn Starkey
to know you're aware
Unidentified speakerVoice D
of me.
Kathryn Starkey
You sent um us pictures of the um storage facility going up right across from you? Yeah, they're working on it now. So um I went and looked at it and the fence was improperly placed. And um uh is the fence down or has it been moved?
Unidentified speakerVoice D
No, they took a they cut a hole in the fence. It's well, I tell you they originally had a gate there and they had a walk through gate and drive through gate. Well Seems like one night they mysteriously disappeared. So they put a fence back up. And anyway they've taken the fence down. They're running concrete trucks on Monmouth Avenue. They're running construction trucks. All the construction trade goes in and out. And I talked to uh Mark Lanton. uh about it and he says, Well where's Pasco County says we're
gonna have to fix that road up to where they have the fence tore down. And there was some survey stakes up, but nobody's done a thing.
Kathryn Starkey
So what so what's going
on
usual. What's going on there is you is you know that we put in this rule that if you're putting in a storage facility you have to have the retail in front. And and they did that, there's I don't know if it's a Dunkin' Donuts or something up in the front in a cookie store. And then now the storage facility is going in in the back. But um they put the fence in incorrectly and this is something that we're I'm gonna talk about in commissioners items. And they put it on the property line so there was no landscaping that and they have to buffer. um that fence from the residential all around it.
And so um hopefully we will get someone to make sure they're doing that because I thought we did in Key. So we'll follow up.
Jack MarianoChair
So let me let me so when you get to your conversation with him again, yeah.
Kathryn Starkey
Katie's waiting back there. My assistant's waiting in the back to talk to you. Okay,
Unidentified speakerVoice D
you you're also aware that on the west side of that property is a fifty foot county right-of-way and he doesn't own that. So they're not allowed to use that. I see they're bowdozing in there, maybe made arrangements with the county.
Jack MarianoChair
So if I could let me let me end this conversation between the two of you. Okay, thank you. Take care of it afterwards.
All right. And and her assistant's right in the back. Okay. Oh,
Kathryn Starkey
if they're taking out the trees on the county right away, I'm not gonna be happy because it's all full of oak trees. Okay, thank you.
Jack MarianoChair
Okay. Is there any anyone else who would like to speak to this item?
Kathryn Starkey
I have no one else signed up for this item and no one on the right-of-way.
Kathryn Starkey
I think we should make the attorney who worked very hard on this come up since he's retiring.
He's not listening and he's not coming. Okay. Well I want to thank Joel too. Uh on his own, he came to um some of the community meetings and and really tried to um help explain how the property rights works and the development works so that people understood it wasn't a taking of anything but really at the end it was increasing their property values and and um adding taking out uncertainty to what uses could
be and and so therefore adding value. Am I saying that right, Jill?
Jack MarianoChair
Okay.
I move.
Kathryn Starkey
Second.
Jack MarianoChair
And roll call vote?
Kathryn Starkey
District One, Commissioner Oakley.
Jack MarianoChair
Aye.
Kathryn Starkey
District two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford.
Jack MarianoChair
Aye.
Kathryn Starkey
District 5, Chairman Mariano.
Jack MarianoChair
Aye. Moved item P forty six. Um Commissioner Weightman, do you want to vote on that?
Kathryn Starkey
Say aye loudly. What are you telling me to do?
Jack MarianoChair
We we've made we've made the motion. It's been approved. We've got full vote so far. Commissioner
Kathryn Starkey
Weightman. Okay. Unanimous.
Jack MarianoChair
Unanimous it is. Okay. Item P forty six.