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Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAL22(01) Odessa Town Centre PD (Planned Development) - Transmittal Of The Proposed Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 22) From RES-9 (Residential-9 DU/GA) And ROR (Retail/Office/Residential) To PD (Planned Development) On Approximately 86.38 Acres Of Real Property Located At The Southwest Corner Of The Intersection At State Road 54 And Gunn Hwy; And A Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.68 – Odessa Town Centre PD; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(68) Odessa Town Centre PD; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDD-23-0148District 3

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Staff recommendation

Approve

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DispositionApproved

Approved to transmit the item by roll call vote.

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PDD-23-0148 in full →

PDD-23-0148 was taken up 6 times between Jan 19, 2023 and Jun 20, 2023, continued 1 time — this is appearance 4.

  1. Jan 19, 2023PlanningRES9No disposition in the minutes
  2. Feb 16, 2023PlanningRES9No disposition in the minutes
  3. Feb 21, 2023BoardP59No disposition in the minutes
  4. Mar 21, 2023BoardP51Approvedthis item
  5. May 23, 2023BoardP55Continued
  6. Jun 20, 2023BoardP45Adopted

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MarianoChair

All right, item P fifty one.

Clerk

Uh the approval? Yes, the item was uh published in the Tampa Bay Times on January 4th, 2023 and March first, 2023, by affidavit of certified mailings.

Kathy Pearson

Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah. He wished you a happy anniversary, even there.

Starkey

Oh, thank you. I'm hoping I get to make my dinner, but me

Unidentified speakerVoice B

too.

Starkey

Mm-hmm. My husband's like, Get

Amy Heiler

in the car. I'll try to make this quick for ya. I know

Starkey

this is Well I'm very excited about this. This is very special what we're doing here. So the anniversary or the ordinance? No this this ordin this ordinance. This ordinance is very good.

Amy Heiler

All right. Uh good afternoon. Amy Heiler with Long Range Planning. This is the transmittal hearing for a proposed large scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of CPAL 2201 Odessa Town Center PD. The subject property is located in the South Market area and urban service area. So the first couple slides is gonna go through a little historical background of the project and the scope of work that occurred. Um on 1014, 2021, uh the county

initiated a comprehensive plan or or strategized working towards initiating a proposed comprehensive plan amendment that is staff initiated or county initiated. The area is located west of Governor. Highway north of Interlake and along State Road 54. This is where the old flea market is located. And so at this meeting, uh you'll see the proposed conceptual plan that was uh that was crafted by the the um by

our develop not developers but I'm sorry, I'm losing my the time. Planning department. Not just the planning department, the the consultant. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. So that was crafted by the consultant to kind of give a visual representation of what could have occurred in this area and what some of the strategies that the planning department wanted to see in this area being your mixed use, vertically integrated, and employment generating land uses. At this meet neighborhood meeting we showed this visual and

cr ended up gathering some comments from the attendees at this meeting, um, which is represented here and it is also in your attachment as um uh to a summary of what the comments were. So With some of the comments that were captured, we were went back to the drawing board, worked with our consultant, and crafted three scenarios. So the first scenario that you see here on the left, on the upper left corner, is a scenario that is basically

taking into consideration status quo, how the development is occurring as is, without any change. As being your multifamily development. So, this is visualizing what this area would look like with an additional multifamily development. Your second scenario here is taking into consideration the existing uses along Gun Highway and Interlakin, and integrating some of these mixed use planning efforts, being your multifamily higher density

residential, your employment generating land uses, any commercial retail office opportunities that we would see in this area. There's also an interlacing Integrated roadway network to ensure that there is internal capture and provide that alternative relief to both Gun Highway and State Road 54. And then scenario three is just a complete overhaul. Scenario three is disregarding the existing land use and saying these are the proposed uses that we would like to

see here in these proposed locations.

So after we went to the drawing board and received some of those conceptual plans, we had a second neighborhood meeting on 512 of 2022. These are some of the slides that were presented at that neighborhood meeting. Basically going through these proposed conceptual plans, but also engaging the community in various ways. What you see here are two separate activities. That we had, it was basically like a charrette. We had 18 by 24 inch maps printed, conceptual

plants printed. We had trace paper on top, and we put the planning effort in the hands of the community. So we had various engagement opportunities for them to provide us with some recommendations, ask questions, and advise. On what some of the uses or where the uses they would like to see in these areas. So scenario one or activity one. Was basically a review and a collaboration of sticky notes to say what are

some of the things that you would like to see here and what are some of the concerns that you have in this area. And then activity two was our breakout session where the community did engage in these area plans and put little dots on where they wanted to see some of these uses occur. And so here are just some visuals capturing the outcome of how many people attended. It was pretty a pretty good out turn pr pretty good turnout. Almost every landowner. And after that meeting, we ended up going back and

uh captured some of those comments with the consultant. So this is the third round of uh quote unquote conceptual plans that we used to capture uh meetings or capture capture information from both of those neighborhood meetings. So scenario one, maintaining status quo, still that reflecting the uh multi. Multifamily units in that area. Scenario 2: As you'll see, there is a little bit of change where some of the buildings are placed along the frontages of the right-of-way.

The red is representing more of your mixed-use commercial areas, the yellows representing your residential, purples representing your industrial, and the blue is representing your office use. So scenario two still maintains status quo, took into consideration the existing land uses. As you all are mainly aware, we do have the Lowe's project coming in as well. So Lowe's being located at the southwest corner of State Road 54 and Gun Highway. That

was also taken into consideration when scenario two was drafted, and then scenario three. complete overhaul where you have your non-residential uses, your mixed uses of your commercial retail or commercial and residential located up along the frontage of 54, and then some of your employment generating uses located internally. And these are some of the meeting notes and concerns that we did receive as a summary from that neighborhood meeting as well. And as

you'll note on some of these comments, basically the main one of the main concerns that we did receive from residents was the fact that they just didn't want this change or this plan to negatively impact their project or their project. I'm sorry. And so here's just some representations of the engagements that we had and some of the concerns from these overlays and that breakout session. So, with that,

here we are. So, we are here to propose a staff-initiated comprehensive plan amendment. As you see here, the proposal is to amend the future land use from a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to maps 2-15 and sheet 22 from Res9 and ROR to PD on approximately 81.47 acres. It is located at the southwest corner. The intersection of State Road 54 and Gun Highway, and an amend and a resolution to the proposal is to amend feature land use maps 2-15

and sheet 22, as well as create sub-area policy 7.1.68 Odessa Town Center PD, and amend map 2-9, creating map 2-968 in the name of Odessa Town Center PD. There is an accompanying rezoning that you shall be hearing. Um within the next couple months or so, weeks or so, probably four to six weeks anticipating, and that is going to be for a portion of the overall Odessa Town Center PD. So these are

the policies that the proposed amendment is consistent with.

As you see the subject site is located at fifty four and gun highway, north of Interlaken. Uh the existing future land use being Res9 and R O R The existing flu being P D. And this is the accompanying conceptual plan. So within the Odessa Town Center PD, we have established this area in villages. So we have three separate villages. We have a village EG represented in

your goldish color, goldish, ground, brownish, yellowish color. Village L I in your purple color, and village Village MU, EG is the employment generating use, or village L I is the light industry village, and MU is your mixed-use village. So I'll go into just a little bit of detail on this. So the mixed-use village is going to be where your high density residential is primarily located. This village is intended

to act as a mixed mixed-use village with your Residential, non-residential employment generating uses. We are also imposing the requirement that or policy directive that we have been discussing for quite some time now, where any of the non-residential uses or excuse me, any of the multifamily uses located up along State Road 54 shall be vertically integrated. So the applicant or the proposed MPUD or Portion of the proposed MPD will be accommodate, accommodating

that. However, this area is intended to be within the sub-area policy, the Odessa Town Center allows for 32 dwelling units per gross acre as a density, and it also allows for 3.0 floor area ratio as your intensity that will be implemented through a series of MPUDs over time. So the mixed use. village is where your residential components, higher density residential, is going to be primarily located. Your light industry, which is located along Gun Highway, the light industry

was crafted to maintain status quo if you look at the existing excuse me. Oh I don't have the zoning in here. Okay, well, if you look at the existing zoning land use, it is C2 currently with ROR. We wanted to maintain that. So those those residents are not negatively impacted by this. They are maintaining status quo, still have that opportunity for your employment-generating land uses as well as your retail office commercial uses along the corridor. Internally, however, that is where

one of the major major changes are occurring. That's going to be your village. EG. That is where your employment generating target industry village or target industry uses are going to be prioritized internally within this area. As you see, there are also roadway segments delineated in this conceptual plan. This is going to be treated as your local internal capture roadway to ensure that there is capacity alleviated from State Road 54 and internal capture as well. And then within

the sub-area policy, just to ensure everybody's aware, we do have a language in the sub-area policy that if a property owner does not want to opt in to the Odessa Town Center PD, they still have the right to use the prop property as is to the full extent. So they would not negatively be impacted by any of these changes. Mm-hmm. So with that, we would like to uh recommend or authori ask you to authorize transmittal of the proposed amendment

to DEO and the other reviewing agencies. And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

MarianoChair

Commissioner Starkey. Well this was

Starkey

Yeah, this was a really interesting um educational experience. You know, we we held these meetings at the Starkey TLC. invited all the landowners. The only one I think that didn't come maybe was Eric Swajnan just 'cause I I don't know why we just didn't have his contact information. But he's in. And we would have had this before, but we had another landowner say, Wait, wait, I want my property to be in this as well. Correct. So so we had to wait and readvertise.

And And he had a big piece and so he has joined here. I only wish We had started this before the Lowe's came in. Because We would have made it. fit better I think. Um But there's a trail system going. We're we're not getting into any of that with the trail or

Amy Heiler

um yes, I

Starkey

can go into that a

Amy Heiler

little bit. Sure. Yeah. So uh you will and this will be you'll see more of a visual when the MPD comes in that will implement this a little bit stronger. But yes, um along State Road 54, there is a trail. Um it is going to be connected, and I believe that this is going to connect. In the future to the Orange Belt. Correct. And so there is a trail proposed along the western boundary where your mixed use is from State Road 54 to Interlaken. There's also a

trail within the m the center of the project being located along Blissfield. So in what you'll see is you'll have a trail along the western, the trail will connect through Blissfield. Up gun and then through or up old gun and then through the Lowe's project to Gun Highway, and that will provide a level of connectivity from the school to the old gun highway, and in the end it will connect to the old Orange Belt Trail System.

Starkey

And right near here, there will be a mid-block crossing for that orange belt to get across the street to Starkey. And that trail going down between um the on the left edge or the western edge of this to interlock in, that that goes to a couple of schools and a church that are back there. And it a and it activates the community that's down there, Trinity East and others, um to be able to go to the restaurants that will be along fifty-four uh on the first floor of the building that

will be along fifty four. Um without having to you know, they can do it they can come in a golf cart, they can come on a bike, they can walk the stroller. And so it acts it's really activates this as pedestrian center. So pretty excited about it.

Yeah. I it is p I think there's some residents here.

MarianoChair

All right. And there's a public hearing, so any public like to speak to this item?

Starkey

We do have one person who signed up, Gerald Speer.

Gerald Speer

Uh my name is Gerald Speer. I live at [address removed], and I have been sworn in. Uh I have some things here I'd like to enter into evidence.

Starkey

Move

Gerald Speer

to

Starkey

a

Starkey

Stephen File.

Gerald Speer

Sag it. Roll call vote. I made one for each one at the

Starkey

District One, Commissioner Oakley.

Gerald Speer

Aye.

Starkey

District two, Commissioner Weightman.

Gerald Speer

Bye.

Starkey

District 3, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District 4, Commissioner Bradford.

Bradford

Aye.

Starkey

District 5, Chairman Mariano. Aye.

Go ahead.

Gerald Speer

Well I was hoping you could get the pictures I could go with them and explain to you as I Um Uh I would like to mention the one thing about you uh you were saying earlier about we'd have choices to sell or not. Well, unfortunately I have one of the smallest pieces of property, so it's you have very little minimum of what you can do with it. And you've decided to make my property a park. Uh I have no problem. I think what you're doing is uh uh gonna be a wonderful when it's finished it's

gonna be something really wonderful. Uh but I will not have a choice on selling or not because on one site well first let's go since you have the pro uh pictures. Uh when you turn uh off of Monmouth Road, that that that's Blitzfield Road, it says number one on it at the top. This is uh Blitzfield Road. And uh that's if you see at one time I had b uh beautiful trees and people living there and that's been taken away from

me. Now I have all as a as a white fence. Uh when I turned left into my property in picture number two, uh that's that is the house I live in. And if you look, that's the driveway that I turn in for off of Blitzfield. Picture thicker three is if you're on my front porch, which I have a beautiful big southern back uh front porch that you can stay on. If you look in the that's what my front porch is. All it is is construction now in front

of me. Uh if you look Uh a picture number four it shows some of the equipment that they're bringing in to work in now, what they're doing now to Yeah.

Uh I was told at one of the meetings that uh the w this probably wasn't exempted uh at the at the time. But some of this stuff would not be done until we were bought out or a developer come in. Because uh this construction it wakes me up sometimes in the mornings when the the the noise it makes, the these machines hitting the ground and stuff. Uh if you look at picture number uh five, it shows uh from the front uh

that there's where that tree stump and stuff is. They're putting in a a road so that they can build that uh on in picture number six where you can see uh mission self-storage. That's what's coin in the front of me.

And then the last picture is a picture of uh if you look at the top of my house, it's a the it's a large house. It's it's it's a it's it's a big house. And on the right side of the picture is a long part. If if you if you look at the paperwork that I give you with that. uh mainly stuff in the yellow Uh if you look at uh my house is in the big yellow all yellow spot, that's where the park will be. That's where the house sits. And if you look Um

That you if you put a road through there like it might be planned it someday, my house will be tore up right there. Uh if you look at the front of it, uh on the map too. Blitzfield will be w uh widened so it takes the front of the property a lot of it. If you look at the back of it, it says that that's where one of your trails are going to come through, which is a good idea for a park to have a trail next to it. I agree. What you're doing is a wonderful thing. But I am going to have

to leave. Uh I'm seventy years old. If this takes five years to do, and I'm seventy five, I I've already been in the hospital uh last year once. Uh I've got another hernia that I have to go to the surgeon next Weak. to find out when I can have this fixed. I've had so many uh you know, at the age I'm getting, the moving is gonna be very, very hard on me. And I feel an urgency to come to you guys and try to get this done so

that you can either buy my house or get me moved. Because w if I get to be eighty, I'm not going to be able I I can't move. And this stuff has to be done. So I am the one piece of property out of all the land that you're talking about. I'm not trying to stop you from doing any of this. I commend what it's gonna look like when it's done. It's gonna be beautiful. Uh it's sad for me because I have it if you if you look at the lat the second piece of paper. Uh in nineteen ninety

four. Uh and two thousand uh yeah, two thousand four, I bought this piece of property and I saved this piece. I paid ninety-two thousand dollars for this house uh nineteen years ago. So when I sell it and I have to move, of course I'm gonna have to, it's just time. Uh my property tax is gonna go up wherever I go. Uh I'll no longer have a well receptive so I'll start having to p my uh all my bills are gonna go up. Everything And

I understand that and I'm willing to take the responsibility. But I'm asking uh for an urgency to you guys to help me 'cause I feel like that if you guys don't, that I'm gonna have to go to some kind of uh commercial real estate people and try to get help. 'Cause I I ha I I'm gonna have I I don't wanna be stuck and the county just run over me. And I would like some input from you guys because I'm really uh you know, the older

you get the more you worry about, you know, am I gonna have to live my remaining ten, fifteen years in a trailer in some trailer lot? Is that what you guys are gonna put me in?

Starkey

I think your time's up, but

Gerald Speer

I I I requested for ten minutes. I came down here. And I can show you the piece of paper. I I didn't get the request. No,

MarianoChair

sorry.

Gerald Speer

But I I here's a piece of paper I came down here and requested for it for ten minutes.

MarianoChair

Okay. I I didn't see it. Did you get a response from

Gerald Speer

somebody?

Starkey

Yeah. Um can we can we get the planning director to come up and explain how this would work for him? 'Cause he has legitimate questions.

MarianoChair

Thank you.

Starkey

And I'm trying to find on the project

MarianoChair

before we get to

Starkey

I have a question for Terry.

MarianoChair

So let's hang on. So we'll we'll talk with you even after the meeting, sir?

Gerald Speer

Sure. I'm just I'm just worried I don't want to end up my last fifteen years in a in a eight hundred foot foot square trailer.

MarianoChair

And I think if you'll we'll meet with you after, but if you if you would go on. Is anyone else here from pu to speak on this item? Public comment? Yes, sir. Have you been you were sworn in? Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Doesn't matter, this is legislative. Okay. So let me know. We moved the legislative.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

All right.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I'm a Herbert

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Heap, live at [address removed]. And if you come out of the southwest rear corner of the flea market, you're gonna be looking at a place. Got twelve acres there. Got road frontage on my north side is Blissfield Road, east side is Old Gun Highway. I got a r right away going out to Inter Lake on the South. And let's see, Pasco County School Bus Garage is on my uh rear side, uh west side, and then Lynn's Abel, which is sitting back there, has ten acres on my west side. And I feel like

I got a big target on me. With that big piece of ground sitting right where I believe somebody wants to put a town center. When we started all this about two years ago we had a Bef before I had I tell you, my wife was with me uh when we started this two years ago. Two weeks ago my wife passed away at hospice at Gulfside. So I'm doing this alone now. Anyway, uh Two years ago. There's a fellow showed up named Michael Seltzer. Seltzer Sakehouses

sound familiar? Same guy from Montreal. Said his client was Sovereign Company. which and they s give a plan and the plan is right up there. And so now two years later we're working on the plan. And a couple of the problems is there's two roads I'm gonna put in. If I'm not living there, that's fine. But if I'm living there the it looks like it's gonna go through my house. The other problem was Everybody because we got that twelve acres at that corner

We got probably about a hundred different people coming after the property And you oughta see the letters of intent, the most fraudulent pieces of Not very nice stuff anyway. Well if a Pasco County could really get in there and get a legitimate Developer uh I'll move. You know, give me the money, I'll move. Money talks, you know how it goes. But uh just get some legitimate people in there and do the development. Not somebody sneaking in the back door of the courthouse trying to, hey, we'll get this old guy outta here. You know what I

m understand what I mean, any of you or It's When you got that big a property, I'm sitting on the corner And if we don't sell it That sort of ties up everybody else's property too. So okay. Well, I don't know, I'm out of time maybe. You still got a minute to go. Okay, you all understand what I'm talking about. I've been there I've been there uh fifty one years. We bought it December of uh Nineteen seventy one and we built that house and And my wife and I uh carved our homestead out there. And

uh because of an operation over here at the hospital. He botched the operation and And it didn't work and my wife has passed away and so I don't know what I'm gonna do now. I'm one guy on one big piece of ground. And they all want me out of there. Got white hair and an old guy. Okay, I'm running out of time.

MarianoChair

Sir, just a quick question for you.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Yeah.

MarianoChair

Um did you say you were at the corner of Gun Highway in Blissfield?

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I'm old excuse me. I think it's the old Gun Highway in Blissfield. And if you came out the Southwest, I probably did. I'm not sure.

MarianoChair

I just want to make sure I knew. Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Okay. Well, say my wife went in the hospital December 19th and I was with I've been with her every day. even to the day she died and and seven days a week and I'm really tired. And uh and then they have the planning meeting which was about a month ago, wasn't it, I believe, and we had I came to it and now I come to this meeting and Like I said, I'm really tired, not thinking straight, but Gotta be here. This old guy's here, I'm willing to sell. I believe we talked to Kathryn at one of the meetings. She said, Would you be willing to sell? Yes,

we'd be willing to sell, but let's get a legitimate developer, s not a bunch of shysters. You know, uh at the uh Just trying to think, it must have been at the planning meeting. One of the lawyers stood up and looked back at our area, the flea market. He says this blighted area. Well we might be blighted. But I've been there for fifty one years and it's paid for, my house is paid for. And uh I d I don't wanna move, but now that I've lost my wife it's really Change my thinking.

Starkey

Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

And uh I know uh

Starkey

I'm so sorry.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I know you got some big plans for the area. And I I and they're good plans, they sound good. But just watch these developers and I don't like the way they like to sneak in the back door of the courthouse and talk to people behind your back. It's not exactly the sunshine law. It's not transparent. You want to talk to us? Get us at a round table, sit down and hey, this is what we like to do. And these people are legitimate. You know, I don't need a bunch of size too.

Starkey

I'll get with you after the meeting.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Can you understand what

Starkey

I'm saying? Not today.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Okay. Okay, talk about it.

Starkey

Next week, yes, I will definitely get with you. Okay, thank you. Um

MarianoChair

anyone s anyone here from public comment?

Starkey

I I do want um someone from the Pl oh should

MarianoChair

Okay.

Starkey

Oh. She's here for public comment.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Christy Barrera with Height Design. I represent the Gato MPUD, which is on the western side. It's about 15 acres. Amy was alluding to it earlier. We've been working with staff on the north-south trail as long as well as the east-west trail along Blissfield. And you'll be hearing about our MPUD in May or June. We'll be here before you. But just wanted to say I support the county in this Comp Plan amendment. And we're looking forward to bringing the MPD forward as this moves forward as well.

Nectarios Pittos

Okay.

Starkey

So

Unidentified speakerVoice D

I didn't know if you had any questions about the Gato project specifically, but I'm here to answer anything you have.

Starkey

Well I will just let you all know that um that we have strung this developer on. For at least an extra year as we went through this process, but um we had a willing seller. that was willing to wait and you know this this company that's coming is very well funded So everyone could hang on uh um because it took a long time to get this plan through and you know we want to make sure we met with the community and they they understood and you know this is

not an area Th this is this is an area where people have lived for a long time and they're not developers and they're not builders and they're not planners. So it um I really appreciate them coming along with us. We haven't had anyone sell. uh since we went through this though y they are circling, circling around, as you heard. Um but it would have been uh a kind of community that no one would have really liked, you know, if we were letting it go without this kind of plan. And they can

still do that. But our hope is that we we end up with a really good community. um plan here. That's to everyone's advantage and by us take by the county taking on the cost of upzoning, because that's kind of what we did here. Um we increased we believe we increased the value of their property. Uh I thought I thought we were gonna have a land use attorney here to help explain this, so I I guess I'm not a land use attorney, but we did we we took the guesswork out of the zoning. For

Uh or is it zoning or comp plan change? What's the right word?

We took the uncertainty out of a comp plan change for anyone for developers and we and and the residents did not have to pay for it. So that is the benefit, if I'm saying that right, of doing something like this. Did I say that right? Yeah. Any do you guys have any any questions? Anyone have a question? Hang on.

I am not gonna make my anniversary dinner till six o'clock in Dunedin. I will be very brief.

Bradford

And I'm not sure. Uh I appreciate your uh I appreciate the developer. I appreciate everything. This is a great project. If we could find the money to uh We can pay off mortgages for sinkholes. And other neighborhoods. We should be able to help two of our elderly citizens. Now how you do that, I don't know. I'm not one of the lawyers. But uh I do know that uh

It's great to develop, it's great to create jobs. Love I I love everything about it. We cannot leave a vulnerable citizen behind.

Starkey

I I think you're gonna find when this is done that they're gonna Not have any issues.

Bradford

Thank you very much and I hope you enjoy your anniversary. Okay.

Nectarios Pittos

Mr. Chairman Mariano Commissioner Starkey had asked the question earlier. So w one thing for the board to know and for the community to know is that The way we designed this uh sub area plan and policy was to maximize the flexibility of the existing landowners such that if they want to sell, they it's their choice. And if they want to stay, again it's their choice. And their existing current uses may remain there until such

time that they choose to sell and when they do sell the new developer or the new property owner that comes along will then have to comply with whatever zoning changes they want to make that are consistent with the comprehensive plan that is proposed before you today.

MarianoChair

So Mr. County Attorney, is it best just to let these gentlemen talk with the developer coming in at this point?

Starkey

Well that's the only way.

MarianoChair

So

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yes, I mean they they have the choice of of maintaining their property the way it is. Now the conditions are changing around them. Um or to have or or to deal with who whoever becomes the master or multiple master developers of the of the this conceptual plan. So best for them to wait just a little bit

MarianoChair

longer then?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah, I

MarianoChair

guess probably best you wait a little bit longer and then get

Starkey

Yeah that there and I My my office will will help all weekend. Okay. Uh but this is gonna generate activity.

MarianoChair

Okay. Is there any other public to speak to this item?

Starkey

Mr. Chair, I don't know if I stated on the record, but there's no one on WebEx for this item.

MarianoChair

No on WebEx, I don't see any rose comment full of closed public comment. Do we have a motion?

Starkey

Move to

approve.

MarianoChair

Move that would be moved to transmit it. Move

Starkey

to transmit this.

MarianoChair

Okay. Motion is second. Roll call vote.

Starkey

District one, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman.

Kevin Frazier

Uh-huh.

Starkey

District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District five, Chairman Mariano.

Barry Jackson

Aye.

Starkey

And I will

Barry Jackson

say

Starkey

Terry said that this was uh a project that his department Really enjoyed getting in and having this experience. And I've got another site for them, but he says they're busy. But You might find some in your district.

MarianoChair

This was a great project you brought forward. You did it the right way. And just like Liam's working with our commercial stuff not nearly as uh intense as this, but that's what we need to do just like we did in Boatyard and Hudson too a little while ago. So great job. Thank you. All right, so we'll I've just got uh the committee reports to go, so Uh County Administrator.