An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Providing For A Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 22) From RES-9 (Residential-9 Du/Ga) And ROR (Retail/Office/Residential) To PD (Planned Development) On Approximately 86.38 Acres Of Real Property Located At The Southwest Corner Of The Intersection At State Road 54 And Gunn Hwy; And A Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.68 – Odessa Town Centre PD; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(68) Odessa Town Centre PD; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency; Providing For A Repealer, Severability, And An Effective Date
What the county recorded
Staff recommendation
Approve
DispositionAdopted
Approved to adopt by a roll call vote.
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The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Jun 20, 2023
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The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Jun 20, 2023
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Item P 45 was published in the Tampa Times on January 4, 2023 and June 7, 2023.
Item P forty five, I'll read the title into record. In ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a large scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map, map two-fifteen and sheet twenty-two from Res 9, Residential Nine Dwelling Units per Gross Acre, and ROR, Retail Office Residential. to P D Plan Development on approximately eighty-six point three eight acres of real property located at the southwest corner of the intersection at State Road fifty four and Gunn Highway, and a text amendment creating sub-area policy flu seven dot one dot sixty eight Odessa Town Center, PD. And a map
amendment to the future land use map map two-nine, adding sub-area map two-nine sixty eight, Modesta Town Center PD, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for the internal consistency, providing for repeat or serverability on effective date. This comes with a recommendation of approval. We have staff to do the presentation.
I believe there is someone to speak to the height.
Well I I I want everyone to see it. I want everyone to see it. See the work that we did.
Okay, let's let's do a presentation.
All right, good afternoon. Amy Toll with Planning and Development. The item before you today is the adoption hearing for the c uh small or large-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Odessa Town Center.
It
moved. No more case. Okay. Sorry about that. Um so the proposal is a uh comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Odessa Town Center. The uh comprehensive plan amendment is amending the future land use, which is existing currently as uh Res9, residential nine dwelling units per gross acre, and ROR Retail Office Residential to PD Plan Development. There's also an associated sub-area policy included in this plan amendment that establishes
a series of three villages within this area, as well as guiding design principles to ensure connectivity, land use placement, and open space criteria involved within this plan development. The subject site is located generally at the southwest corner of State Road 54 and Gun Highway. And the property is located in the South Market area. Here is your visual for the aerial showing where it is located at the
southwest corner of Gun Highway and Interlakin. And the future LAN use currently is ROR and Res9. And the existing uh or the proposed future land use is P D. So, as you most of you are aware, uh this is a approximately a two-year venture. Uh, we had a series of neighborhood meetings over the last couple years to gather input and and information from the community to plan this area, uh, to align with
the intent of you know what we wanted to establish here being a uh uh village core j prioritizing. I'm sorry, prioritizing employment generating uses. However, we did take into consideration the existing residents and kind of brought them involved into the planning aspect to see what they would like to see and how we can incorporate that into the plan development. So this is that was just a couple images of the neighborhood meetings that occurred as a result. Thank
you. We had um Three we had a consultant draft up three scenarios in relation to the comments that were received from the community. So scenario one was retaining status quo, meaning simply putting in multifamily, that is your normal type of development pattern. Scenario two was taking into consideration your existing usage. And existing infrastructure and kind of retrofitting in a mixed-use
type development. And scenario three was a complete overhaul, disregarding what the existing land uses were, and then completely overhauling that area. So with this plan and after taking into consideration the community's wants and needs, we went with scenario two.
So, this is going to be your conceptual plan that runs alongside the planned development. The conceptual plan establishes the different land use categories being villages. The three villages that you see here are villages EG, which is employment generating, village LI, which is light industry, and village MU being mixed use. The mixed-use village is going to be your primary residentially led village. That allows for multifamily, no single family will be incorporated in this area. So multifamily attached
with commercial retail components as well. The EG area being your middle portion or the yellow-goldish color. That's going to be your employment generating. That is target industry led, employment generating led. No residential uses are permitted within this. Area and then the I L or L I excuse me light industry along Gun Highway and Interlakin. That area is prioritized to retain what's already existing, being your ROR future land use and your
C2 zoning. So it kind of kind of retained what was already existing, being commercial light industry led, with the opportunity to allow for residential to occur only if vertically integrated.
So the proposed comprehensive plan amendments are consistent with the following policies. As you can note, policy flu 8.1.2 being your south market area, policy flu 1.4.3, transitional land uses, policy flu 1.4.7, limits on industrial uses, policy flu 1.6.7, hierarchy of access, policy ED 1.4.4, limitations of conversions of implementation. Important employment locations, policy flu 9.1.7, urban service area, and policy
flu 1.8.7 and 1.8.70, which uh preserves the economic development of the area. It's important to note policy ED 1.4.4 and policy flu 1.8.7 and 1.8.10, as those policies. Are set in place in the comprehensive plan to ensure that employment generating uses are prioritized in this area or prioritized just in general. So with the Odessa Town Center, we ensured that the
existing employment generating capacity within the ROR future land use was not diminished and it was actually enhanced, as well as the creation of the employment generated. Village and the light industry village both retained the existing employment generating capacity along Gun Highway as well as increased the employment generating capacity within this corridor itself. Oops, sorry. I think it worked. It like worked, but it doesn't work. Okay. Um so with that, the recommendation is to find the proposed amendment
consistent with the comprehensive plan and adopt by roll call vote. And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Uh any questions for staff?
No questions. I'm just excited and grateful that we had this opportunity and um It would be very good for the community and the county, so and the residents.
Well I thought you had your public meetings and get the community involved. Commissioner Weightman.
Thank you. Good work, Commissioner Starkey. Starkey. This looks good.
Yeah.
Now to protect it based
Yeah.
And live local in our discussion this morning, we need to condition or deed restrict the zonings that are in here, especially the job creating sites. How do we how do we do that? I guess this is a county attorney question. Because I have several notes and the same question is going to be a redundant theme throughout today's Uh afternoon session, so how do we how do we protect what's being created here and not eroding away to The live local issue.
If the if the applic I I think as Mr. Goldstein explained this morning, um the MPU generally the MPUDs and the straight zonings that are or Euclidean zonings that are coming forward are either deed restricting or conditioning They're um their projects um You can uh I don't believe if you uh I don't believe it Yeah. You can't really s
um can uh put a sub-area policy on this that basically says you're not gonna allow Live local to apply. It has to be an applicant choice. Is that
possible? Can I can I add uh there's actually one awakening your agenda, the Gito MPD where they have voluntarily agreed to not that their mixed use area will not be subject to Senate Bill one oh two. So we are handling it at the zoning stage. As opposed to the comp plan stage.
Commissioner
Weightman
This is Commissioner Bradford, could you hang on for a minute? We'll just let Mr. Goldstein come and then we'll come back to you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear it.
Okay.
Trust me, all these have to go through me. Can you? Um I don't let staff. rezoned a commercial industrial without addressing this issue. You can ask them. I yell at them all the time. Okay.
Commissioner
Bradford.
I'm sorry.
I got a question and I don't know if it's uh for staff or the commissioner. What is it, Euclidean? What was that word,
Euclidean? Euclidean zoning. Euclidean zoning is
that
is your is your otherwise known as your straight zoning categories. It is the C two, C one, uh, M F one, uh those categories that are not planned development.
Okay, thank you.
And it ca it it comes from the long time Supreme Court case of the Village of Amber versus Euclid, which is why it's called Euclides.
Oh, that's interesting. I thought it was something Latin.
I thought so too.
We'll
learn it today, Mr. Brad Commissioner Bradford. Thank you. Yeah. Uh Commissioner Weightman. Thank you.
I know that Siri's having a hard time with it too.
Yeah, so thank you, Chair. Thank you, Commissioner Bradford. So Mr. Goldstein We vote on this today. We're not jeopardizing the zonings that are currently being proposed within this project.
That is correct. And as as zonings come in within this
We will make sure that there are a lot of people. Well we can't really force it, but we strongly suggest that they privately detristrict the property so that They cannot put multifamily in the industrial or commercial or mixed use areas. If for some reason somebody refused to privately restrict it I would make staff put some disclosure in the agenda memo saying that they refuse to do it. So that the board was fully aware that they were refusing to do it.
So far every project that's come in with commercial, mixed use or industrial Since Live Local Act was adopted, they voluntarily have agreed to this condition. So
We're making a bet by voting on this today versus having that commitment before this vote. You don't have that commitment now.
That the problem is you can't We can't impose it. So the point is that the And they can't
and they can't use it because this is a comp plan amendment. They'd have to have the zoning in place to be able to To do that. Okay.
In addition, just in this particular comprehensive plan amendment case is a county initiated. So it's been county led and brought to this point.
I do also want to add, um, with this plan amendment, although it is going to PD, we do have some provisions in place that kind of allows for whoever is a current zoning district now that it's not gonna impact them. But if there is any change proposed, they will have to amend to an MPUD at the time of rezoning. So
Hmm,
okay. Okay.
All right. Any other questions for staff? All right. And we do have one person signed for public comment.
Yes, we do, Mr. Chair. Herbert Heap.
Mr. Heap if you would just state your name and address for the record and then you can start.
Herbert Heap live at [address removed]. I'm sure you're all familiar with me. I got the land Commissioner Starkey knows. One time over at the meeting at the school you said, Well you've had your little bit of paradise in Odessa. Well, you're right. We had it. It's gone. But anyway, uh I won't land on corner of Gun Highway and Blessfield Road, old Gun Highway. Make it get it right there. and uh my land goes clear down to Interlakin I got
a Pasco County school bus garage on one Western Corner and Lynn Sable. Has ten acres on my West Side also. What I was concerned about on One of these maps at uh Conceptual Plans is showing two roads they wanted to put in. And if they put 'em in they're both going through my land. Now if I'm still there Is that I mean it's gonna be a problem. What I'm trying to say is are they gonna wait and do this after the land is developed or sold or That's one of the problems. I've had a
Quite a few people contact me, naturally, having that corner, and they think this dumb old guy doesn't know any difference and that uh what's going on in the neighborhood But uh anyway, uh how how am I gonna figure out? Does Pasco County want to help find a good developer and put in there? But I g you won't believe I bet you I've got a hundred letters, phone calls. People contacted me. Matter of fact I've had to block some of them. One guy called me eight times in one day and his wife parked
his her Mercedes over there on Old Gun Highway and she would get out and walk up and down the road taking pictures. This went on for about three months until I blocked their phones and I guess they decided I didn't want to sell. But anyway this is some of the questions I uh Own on that corner I guess I'm sorta tying everything up in the Odessa town center. Yeah I wanna know is I would sell As you all know, I lost my wife March uh sixth and uh and I'm doing this alone now. And I know you all know
me and uh I just wanna know uh are you gonna run me out of there or
Um so Mr. Starkey. Yeah, we we've tried to explain this at the Planning Commission and at our um meeting before. But maybe I would well we have an I'm not sure who is the right person to speak to you outside uh Mr. Karbala who who so so we can explain to him how it works. Uh
someone from planning could probably handle that.
Can but we have a new okay.
Maybe Sir, if you could maybe maybe wait till the end of this meeting and then we'll get you with a staff project
to sit down. Yeah, let's wait till this is over.
And no one's gonna put a road over your property. That it that isn't how it works. Um we will um Uh m uh maybe I'll just bring you into my office and we'll sit down with staff and we'll
What it is because I know There have been people circling all around here. Um who have been Um Trying to take advantage of some people there. And you know what we did in doing this was increase all their property values. But Um N not everyone understands how development works. It's complicated, uh especially in this kind of uh change of plan, so why don't I get you into my office and we'll work. We'll we'll help you.
I appreciate it. Just if I get somebody just t talk to me honestly. Right. And quit trying to I can't say all those words in here but anyway uh Bamboozum. Because yeah. And I was thinking, you know, we got that big tower up there on the corner, got a lot of vultures on it. Well we got a lot of vultures circling my property. Yes. Circling me and trying to get a hold of it.
Well how
you wait okay I'll get out of your way. I just want
to know you're aware
of me.
You sent um us pictures of the um storage facility going up right across from you? Yeah, they're working on it now. So um I went and looked at it and the fence was improperly placed. And um uh is the fence down or has it been moved?
No, they took a they cut a hole in the fence. It's well, I tell you they originally had a gate there and they had a walk through gate and drive through gate. Well Seems like one night they mysteriously disappeared. So they put a fence back up. And anyway they've taken the fence down. They're running concrete trucks on Monmouth Avenue. They're running construction trucks. All the construction trade goes in and out. And I talked to uh Mark Lanton. uh about it and he says, Well where's Pasco County says we're
gonna have to fix that road up to where they have the fence tore down. And there was some survey stakes up, but nobody's done a thing.
So what so what's going
on
usual. What's going on there is you is you know that we put in this rule that if you're putting in a storage facility you have to have the retail in front. And and they did that, there's I don't know if it's a Dunkin' Donuts or something up in the front in a cookie store. And then now the storage facility is going in in the back. But um they put the fence in incorrectly and this is something that we're I'm gonna talk about in commissioners items. And they put it on the property line so there was no landscaping that and they have to buffer. um that fence from the residential all around it.
And so um hopefully we will get someone to make sure they're doing that because I thought we did in Key. So we'll follow up.
So let me let me so when you get to your conversation with him again, yeah.
Katie's waiting back there. My assistant's waiting in the back to talk to you. Okay,
you you're also aware that on the west side of that property is a fifty foot county right-of-way and he doesn't own that. So they're not allowed to use that. I see they're bowdozing in there, maybe made arrangements with the county.
So if I could let me let me end this conversation between the two of you. Okay, thank you. Take care of it afterwards.
All right. And and her assistant's right in the back. Okay. Oh,
if they're taking out the trees on the county right away, I'm not gonna be happy because it's all full of oak trees. Okay, thank you.
Okay. Is there any anyone else who would like to speak to this item?
I have no one else signed up for this item and no one on the right-of-way.
I think we should make the attorney who worked very hard on this come up since he's retiring.
He's not listening and he's not coming. Okay. Well I want to thank Joel too. Uh on his own, he came to um some of the community meetings and and really tried to um help explain how the property rights works and the development works so that people understood it wasn't a taking of anything but really at the end it was increasing their property values and and um adding taking out uncertainty to what uses could
be and and so therefore adding value. Am I saying that right, Jill?
Okay.
I move.
Second.
And roll call vote?
District One, Commissioner Oakley.
Aye.
District two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford.
Aye.
District 5, Chairman Mariano.
Aye. Moved item P forty six. Um Commissioner Weightman, do you want to vote on that?
Say aye loudly. What are you telling me to do?
We we've made we've made the motion. It's been approved. We've got full vote so far. Commissioner
Weightman. Okay. Unanimous.
Unanimous it is. Okay. Item P forty six.