Zoning Amendment (Regular) - Ridge Road MPUD - Carolyn S. Sells, Trustee - Rezoning Request from E-R Estate-Residential District to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to Allow 230 Apartment Units and 10,000 Square Feet of Commercial/Office on Approximately 21.453 Acres - West Central Pasco County, on the Southwest Corner of the Intersection of Ridge Road and Tanglewood Drive
What the county recorded
Staff recommendation
Approval with Conditions
DispositionApproved
Approved Staff’s recommendation with Commissioner Moore and Commissioner Mariano voting nay.
The source document
The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Dec 7, 2021
The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.
The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Dec 7, 2021
The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.
This case, across meetings
PDD-22-7568 in full →PDD-22-7568 was taken up 2 times between Nov 18, 2021 and Dec 7, 2021 — this is appearance 2.
- Nov 18, 2021PlanningP4▶No disposition in the minutes
- Dec 7, 2021BoardP126▶Approvedthis item
What was said
Machine transcription of 20m of recording, with speaker names inferred from voice matching. 57% of 75 lines carry a name. It shows what was said, not what was decided, and both the words and the names can be wrong.
All right. Madam Chair, Commission members, Jessica Cole with Planning and Development Department. This is did receive some ex parte on this item, which have been given to the clerks. Item P 126 is PDD two two seven five six eight in the name of Carolyn S. Sells, Trustee, for a requested change in zoning from ER estate residential to MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District to allow for two hundred and Apartment units and 10,000 square feet of commercial office uses on approximately 21.45 acres. I'm
gonna skip through the project's details as we have heard those. Pretty extensively this evening. But I do want to call out the deviations that were requested by the applicant. Land Development Code 4022C8 allows for the board to consider variations from the uh land development code. If the proposed variations meet or exceed the intent of the code, the applicant is seeking the following variations. From section 805, restrictions on post-development wetlands, upland
buffers within residential lots, and non-residential parcels. This provision requires post-development wetlands to be platted as tracks along with their upland buffers. In res one and lower of our future land use classifications, we do allow. for projects to conserve the wetlands as easements rather than platted tracts. And per staff analysis, with the project being a sole user, this intent of preserving the wetlands and their upland
buffers can still be met with the easements and other instruments rather than platting as tracts.
The second deviation is from 901.6 D11 street design and dedication requirements that requires all projects connect to adjacent properties. to continue existing street patterns.
Per staff analysis, providing the interconnection to the adjacent properties west of the subject site is not possible due to the platted subdivision. An interconnection to the south would require impacting a category two wetland. Therefore, the applicant is proposing to provide vehicular connection to Ridge Road and an emergency access only to Tanglewood. The next deviation being sought is 905.2 C1G, the use of existive non-invasive plant materials to accommodate the applicant's buffers, landscape
buffers. Our current code requires the applicant submit an alternative standard application to utilize these. STAS analysis identifies that the use of non-invasinvasive existing vegetation is encouraged to protect healthy and viable vegetation while also assisting in erosion. The landscape buffer requirements in conjunction with the existing vegetation can be verified at the time of construction plan review and approval. Therefore, the applicant is proposing to meet the landscaping requirements set forth in the conditions
of approval and to use the existing non-invasive vegetation to meet those requirements where feasible. I would also like to call out that the agenda memo did neglect to note a further deviation from the land development code that is being sought. It is found in condition thirty-eight of the MPD conditions of approval. It is to allow for parking spaces to be uh at Calculated at one point nine. cumulatively for the development rather than the 2.25 that it would require according to
our land development code, and then the subsequent uses of the non-residential uses per use in our parking tables. Staff's analysis did note that this project is within a quarter mile of a bus stop, which will allow for the automatic reduction without this approval. But our multifamily projects do encourage a reduction in parking so that we can use our Pathwa pedestrian and non vehicular uh access points to get to these non-residential uses rather than people having to
use their vehicles and park. It is pr to encourage the Non vehicular use. Of The non residential uses for the site. As a whole.
The applicant, as you heard, also just sought a comprehensive plan amendment for P D. This MPUD rezoning petition does not become effective until the corresponding plan development Future land use classification becomes effective. The Planning Commission did hear this MPUD petition on November twenty-eighth, and with Chairman Gray recusing himself, did unanimously vote for approval. The proposed request is in consist is in compliance with the land development code and the
applicable provisions of the comprehensive plan. This is a presentation of the master plan proposed. And also at the November eighteenth Planning Commission, the Commission did ask if the applicant would be willing to Substantially comply with the conceptual plan that was presented. So it was incorporated in the MPUD conditions of approval and presented in the packet and presented here. This item comes to you with staff and planning commission recommendation of approval.
Madam Chair. Yes.
Um I I didn't have the opportunity to put in the publication. May I do that now?
Yes.
Um item P 126 was published in the Tampa Times on November 3rd, 2021. Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay. Barbara Will Heights to 327 Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey Florida for the applicant. Mr. Steinschner, would it be appropriate? Yes, I've been sworn in. Would it be appropriate if I could just have the same records that were before that we had received and filed, received and filed over here, and then just have the same testimony received as well?
You can ask for your presentation that was made in the comprehensive plan case to be added to this presentation rather than doing it again.
Could we did the A receive and file or f agree to that or or
motion to achieve that motion? Yes. Second.
Move to wait.
No, they they made the motion. I say all in favor. Aye. Boy, we're getting bad. Thank you very much. And anyway.
I do have two conditions of I want to go over, but let's go ahead and listen to the public and then we'll come back and um because I noticed I was remiss. in not having a specific condition that prohibits the sewer extension on Tanglewood. So I'll but I'll maybe bring that back to you when uh after you listen to public comment. Thank you.
All right, we have um two individuals signed up for this item. Uh first person signed up is Anne Corona.
And
who else? Who else is there? Let's go. Okay, the next person is uh Sunny Farah.
We've moved from afternoon to evening. So good evening, Commissioners. Um my name is Anne Corona, [address removed], have been sworn. I find myself in the same position for the fourth time, unfortunately. Uh interesting enough. Interestingly enough on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor Day. We have felt embattled in our neighborhood since the inception of this plan, March of twenty-one. and continue continue to feel that way.
I absolutely refuse to recognize the Commission's inability to Accept the fact that a four-story apartment complex in the middle of Tanglewood is completely incompatible and discordant to Tanglewood communities as a proposed site. We are not a giant community of cookie-cutter houses an arm's breadth apart. We don't need roundabouts to navigate. We have one small, uh the main road is 11 feet wide, it's very
dangerous. It's very windy, with other roads that are similar in size and construction. We're a rural subdivision with residents who enjoy a quiet, secluded existence in a neighborhood where we can spot a stranger in an instant. Where where people choose to live because they appreciate the serenity of nature and the beauty of wildlife. were deeply offended and disgusted at the mere thought of this architecturally bereft dense housing of unknown voyagers
who have no roots in our community. This alien blip on our radar has totally disrupted our lives. Since I recall the Commission's statement that they prefer numbers and statistics over opinions and human emotions, allow me to give you a few. My husband and I have lived at our current forty two hundred square foot five bedroom home. on three and a half acres for over thirty-five years. Overlooking the pool is the tree house my daughter grew up playing in with all her friends who went to Cyprus. They
also lived in Tanglewood. My mother drove them to school. My family dentist, my attorney, and my doctor across the street. We have all lived here for over forty years. Um the roads in Tanglewood are completely inadequate to support the need that would be created by dumping a thousand more residents and their vehicles. They're very dangerous, uh, especially in pickup and delivery times right now. Mr. McConaughey can find another place to put himself. Say nineteen. I visited the sister complex and Largo,
which is an industrial area, which is right where it belongs. Put it on nineteen. That needs transformation. The most interesting number is that that there's two thousand influential voters that are gonna be voting. Uh next and next election. This location is simply ill ill-advised, presents a danger to the community and school, and is greed, not need-driven. Please take the moral-ethical high ground here. Make the appropriate decision for the constituents of
District 4 rather than forsaking their interests with a wink and a nod for the almighty dollar.
Hi, I am Sonny Farrer. I have been sworn in [address removed]. I'm back up here, uh continue this on a little bit. I understand what's going on here. It's and it makes sense and it doesn't, whatever. It's a pretty good deal for the county. You're gonna get a sewer line for free, you're gonna get like a crap load of more tax dollar out of that property than what you were getting before. Financially, whatever it makes sense, but from but we're people.
We live here. It's not always about the dollar. A lot of people most of us live in Tangowood East. It's not about money. It's about the lifestyle. And that's why we live where we do. because of that lifestyle. It's nice and quiet. And this is a very good thing. I pretty much resign, you know, all the the the votes that have gone along, uh that this is probably gonna push through, you guys are gonna push this through. You like you're gonna go with the money and the builder and
We the residents don't count in in this van in this issue. So with that in mind, I live on Actually my address is actually [address removed], but I live on the on the corner of Cowan and Sycamore. Sycamore Drive. has kinda become a main thoroughfare as a bypass when Tanglewood is jammed up. people coming through that wanna go on to Ridge Road, especially to go west, They come down Sycamore and then they can avoid the Tanglewood entrance onto Ridge Road. When this apartment complex
goes in, people coming in and go to the apartment complex, they're definitely coming down Sycamore. They're not gonna go to the end of Ridge R or uh uh Tanglewood, make a left and then try to make another left to go into their apartments. They're gonna come sycamore, make a right-on ridge, and then make a right-hand turn right into their complex. Makes perfect sense. I mean that's what I would do. if anybody's coming in from Trinity or from uh off of fifty four anywhere in that area, that's that's how they're coming. And that's, you know, if they come off a Starkey or or if or if they come off like the cupulus. And
so My issue is is That's fine for Tanglewood. Tanglewood is a county road that's paid for by the county and maintained by the county. But sycamore isn't. I pay for that. I actually paid for two streets for Callon and Sycamore in 2007. Cost our family was over eleven thousand bucks to have them both basically paved and assessed. 'Cause I got hit with two roads. Now, what I'm looking at here, I'm paying, and so are all the rest of the homeowners that live along Sycamore. We pay for that road. But now we're gonna be paying. for
a road that's gonna get worn out probably four times faster than what it would have normally. With the traffic just going in and out. That comes through now naturally. And then the traffic that's gonna be coming in out of the apartment there. Never mind any existing building that's gonna be taking place. uh on uh a Ridge Road. I guess across the street north of the or um east of the airport there's like a whole apartment complex or condos or something going up there. It's a big but there's been a big billboard there for a long time saying that like condos are coming in. there. So that's even more traffic
that's gonna cut through. Personally I kinda like the ridge going down when it's open to go down to the airport. It would be a lot faster for for me personally. But again, thank you. So If you guys could do something about sycamore, that'd be great. Make the thing at County Road.
Thank you. Um Well uh I am gonna look into that. That's your district though.
I was gonna ask if sycamore turns into a cut-through shrone, Microbala, will it turn into an arterial aura? Will the county take it over?
We'd have to look at that. I I I don't know the answer. Yeah, that's not
not to be decided here, but something to look into. I just wrote it down. Thank you. Thank you. Um Okay, Barbara.
And um Madam Chairman just for the record there's no one on WebEx for this item. Oh thank you very much.
So I did hand out the first piece of paper here. It's got two uh conditions for the MPUD. One is because like I said I was remit remiss it said we the condition thirty four says we have to acknowledge that we have to do off site utility improvements, but it did not prohibit yes.
Just because it's late. Can you call? I don't see any public there, but we only called the people that were on the sign-up sheet. So just so that
Is there anyone else that wants wants to speak to this issue? Is there anyone on WebEx or No one's on WebEx for this item?
Yeah.
Okay.
So
close public comment. What? Public comment is closed. I'm looking for the paper you're talking about. I don't know where it is.
So the first condition says the project will be required to connect into Pasco County Water and Wastewater Systems. Tanglewood Drive should not be used for any water or wastewater extensions or connections for the project. The second condition is a revision to condition one. At the Planning Commission I was asked on the fly to um add the concept site plan um as a binding site plan and so we came up with a condition Um but I wanted to the it's this is like the how-to language we're adding. How does that binding site plan as
it goes through the county's uh review process, how does that happen? For example, Commissioner Starkey looked at the site plan and said, I don't think tr the parking should be right there. I think it'd be better if it was the building, the mixed-use building was right up against the park. So we want to be able to make those minor changes and so this language allows for that process. I didn't come up with this language. I took it from two rivers. I took it from Clark Crowby's M PUD that you approved from two rivers. Um they also had a plan that they were binding themselves to, and that's where this language came from. So if you would if you see fit to
approve the uh MPUD, if you could Make these two revisions to the conditions. Thank you.
You know, I I did see your site plan and I I do think that mixed use building pulled up to a green space. would be much more attractive for people to hang out. You know, the kids can play in the park or whatever. So I made that suggestion that if it worked To move that over. So Madam Chair. Yeah.
I move approval.
Okay. Wait, second with condition with speaking. Okay, just a couple things. Um Did you want to second it? Yes, I second it with discussion. So with the mixed use, um, I agree to that. I think that will be beneficial. And also I did want to discuss, even though they've already left the East Tanglewood in reference to their wall. And I know they were concerned with the sinkholes and the vibrations of their wall falling down. Would you be willing to install a eight to
ten foot wall on the Mm. West Side.
We can accommodate that. We just have to change our buffer detail both in the sub area policy because I have the same buffer detail in the sub area policy, the M P D plan that provides for not only the twenty foot buffer and the arbor body landscaping, but we can also do a wall within that twenty feet. Okay, thank you. And we'll just need to change the MPD plan, wherever Jessica went. There she is. And we have to change the subway policy. But with that um understanding that we can change those, we can do that. Thank you. Thank you.
Madam Chairman Mariano Um so in addition Um Ms. Cowell when she w did her presentation talked about the parking Um as part of the motion the board is gonna have to find that the parking variation uh meets or exceeds the intent of the code.
Okay. If
you're that's the board's desire to reduce parking spaces for this project.
Yeah, I did have a question on the parking, do the garage parking spaces count as parking spaces?
The answer is yes. And one thing I did not say about this project, not only did we bind ourselves with that concept plan and sub-area policies and landscape details, we're also a mudderum project, and that's the basis for the parking reduction.
So um and I'm gonna say it again uh and I Consider myself a friend of Anne's and I guess we're just gonna disagree that I don't feel this is in the middle of a neighborhood. This is on Ridge Road, a major, one of the major arterial roads in the county. It's the same road the community college is on and many other uh non-residential um structures. Um Also I I've I've seen where people worry worry and then the reality isn't really what
they've seen. I've seen it over and over here. So I'm confident That the neighborhood won't um feel the impact like they think they will, but I understand their fear. Um I am wondering if Tanglewood wouldn't be uh a candidate for safe routes to schools for a sidewalk. And I think we should look at that. Um
They will be added to the list.
Yeah, that if every every child in that subdivision has to take a bus to school, there's something wrong with that road. So
there's only twelve within that neighborhood that's riding the bus, a hundred and fifty car riders. So Well, we still need to add the safe routes to
school. So with that we have uh anyone else want to make any comments?
Okay.
Um broke cover.
No, this is not a roll call.