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An Ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners Amending Ordinance No. 21-08 to Expand the Moratorium Area; Providing for Authority; Legislative Findings of Fact; Moratorium Area; Temporary Moratorium Imposed; and Severability.

Proposed Ordinances at 1:30 p.m.PDD-22-0168District 2

What the county recorded

Published agenda

Staff recommendation

Approve

Approved minutes

DispositionAdopted

Approved to adopt by a roll call vote including the noted modifications which included that the proposed moratorium expansion area did not include parcels collectively known as the Wiregrass Ranch DRI.

The source document

Published agenda

The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Feb 8, 2022

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Approved minutes

The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Feb 8, 2022

The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.

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PDD-22-0168 in full →

PDD-22-0168 was taken up 3 times between Jan 6, 2022 and Feb 8, 2022 — this is appearance 3.

  1. Jan 6, 2022PlanningPC9No disposition in the minutes
  2. Jan 25, 2022BoardP64No action
  3. Feb 8, 2022BoardP35Adoptedthis item

What was said

Transcript

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StarkeyChair

Okay, P35.

StarkeyChair

This item was originally published for hearing uh at the d January twenty-fifth Board of County Commissioners meeting in New Port Richey continued to this date and time. Anyway. That doesn't

Unidentified speakerVoice A

sound right.

Denise

The first reading was one twenty-five of twenty twenty two. Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So it's first re this is a two hearing. Oh okay, so it's a good thing. It should have been advertised

Liam Devine

for this data as well.

StarkeyChair

Okay, let me verify that.

Denise

May I proceed?

StarkeyChair

What oh sorry. Uh and we do have proof of publication for this date and time, a second uh reading um in the Uh in the Tampa Bay Times of December twenty second, twenty twenty one. Thank you.

Denise

Now you can go. Okay, thank you so much. P35 is PDD 220168. I do want to mention that there are some documents on your on your uh areas. providing some some modifications to the item. So basically the modification to the item that you are receiving today is that the proposed moratorium expansion area does not include parcels that are collectively known as the Wiregrass Ranch DRI. The Wiregrass Ranch DRI and Development Order, Comprehensive

Plan, PD, Future Land Use Designation and Associated Sub-area Policies, and the MPUD. The reason why we're removing those, those require employment center uses with higher density and residential development and multi- multifamily development nearby. Multifamily within development within the Wiregrass Ranch is designated to be better integrated into the overall development and thus the moratorium expansion area exclude those areas. So you have a modification to the agenda memo and to the expansion area moratorium map. So

I will read this. This is actually the adoption, and we're asking that you take public comment and you adopt by roll call vote. It's an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending ordinance 2108 to expand the moratorium area, providing for authority, legislative findings effect, moratorium area, temporary moratorium imposed, and severability. And um this went to the local planning agency with the With the exclusion area. Um that and they found it consistent with the

comprehensive plan and recommended approval to the board of county commissioners on one six of twenty-two and this went to the board of county commissioners on first reading on one twenty-five of twenty-two. And I believe you have some folks signed up to speak on this matter.

StarkeyChair

Yes, we do.

Denise

Okay.

StarkeyChair

Uh first uh person we have signed up is uh Cynthia Spidel.

Cynthia Speidel

Good afternoon and thank you. My name is Cynthia Speidel. I'm with Stern's Weaver at 401 East Jackson Street in Tampa. So good afternoon and thank you for the opportunity to speak to this issue. I'm here today to revise a f to to raise a few concerns and to object to the moratorium area expansion. As a board members may recall, and also during my decade plus tenure at Pasco County in the Planning Department and Capital Budgeting, we had invited the ULI to evaluate Pasco County market areas. And they came up with proposed market areas, which included the

South Market and the Urban Service Area. And these areas were adapted. These areas include the State Wheel 54 and 56 corridor and are the intended target for growth. The multifamily moratorium is slowly expanding and extending into the urban service area and south market area. I am glad that you removed Wiregrass. This moratorium is counterintuitive to this growth management strategy. Unintended consequences may include promoting multifamily outside the moratorium boundary, such as suburban and rural market areas, as well as

promoting inn unintentionally or inadvertently promoting smaller single-family lots, including the 40s, as the market adapts and seeks to achieve density in other housing products. that these types of moratoriums perpetuate urban sprawl, do not promote getting people out of their car. And lastly, during the recent PD PEDC economic forecast luncheon, rent was shown to be the largest contributor of inflation. Restricting excuse me, restricting density on the supply side will continue to exacerbate the already

high rents. Lastly, if dimensional standards are considered for this area, please have such design standards go through the traditional LDC amendment process and not via a BCC policy board memo. Design standards and LDC implementation tends to be better when everyone has a seat at the table. Thank you very much. Thank you. Um anyone else signed up?

StarkeyChair

Yes. Uh Nicole Lynn.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Good afternoon everyone, Nicole Lynn, 4921 Memorial Highway, Tampa, with our Dura group. Thanks for hearing us on this subject matter. I just wanted to also reiterate what Cynthia said a second ago about exclusion for Wiregrass Ranch, much noted. In addition to that, I just wanted to say that the expansion of the moratorium area obviously seeks to limit the housing opportunities where the ULI study had previously identified for a concentration

to be. So obviously urban sprawl would occur. And make sure that you are aware that there are folks that are here that are not in agreement with moving forward with the expansion of the moratorium. Thanks. Thank you.

StarkeyChair

Uh Hope Kennedy.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Good afternoon. I'm Hope Kennedy from the North Tampa Bay Chamber of Commerce, 1868 Highland Oaks Boulevard, Suite A. This is absolutely terrible for business. Please do not continue with these moratoriums. This is not a creative use for coming up with a problem. We have a workforce problem, and the housing crisis is directly correlated with. the uh affordable housing. Um moratoriums are lazy. Um, and I encourage you to look for other creative

ways to find affordable housing solutions. the moratoriums in general are just absolutely lazy. And so we encourage you to be pro business, help us out with the workforce issue that we have. As I've mentioned before, the um Affordable housing. So Please be very smart in making those moves. Thank you.

StarkeyChair

Kennedy, uh just to clarify, were you speaking on behalf of the the Chamber of

Unidentified speakerVoice C

that address or your home? One hundred percent. They absolutely did, sir. It's on our priorities list for affordable housing as well as workforce.

Moore

Actual matter for it.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I'm sorry.

Moore

They vote on this actual matter.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

It's our legislative priorities that are put forth to our board of directors each year. This was on our agenda last year and continues to roll over to the agenda this year. But

Moore

not

Unidentified speakerVoice C

that is already approved. This is part of our legislative priorities. The actual agenda item. It's an actual priority item, affordable housing and workforce. Please do.

StarkeyChair

Uh that was the last person signed up in advance.

StarkeyChair

Um is there anyone on WebEx who would like to address this issue?

StarkeyChair

We have no one on WebEx.

StarkeyChair

And is there anyone else here that would like to address the expansion of the moratorium?

Okay, and I ha I have a question. Um so I'm confused on the dates, the dates of the moratorium.

So when would it end?

It's a one hundred and eighty day. Oh no, we extended that.

Nectarios Pittos

Uh Nictorias Petos with the Planning and Development Department. Uh Madam Chair. The moratorium was extended uh yes, extended time wise. in October until April of twenty twenty two.

StarkeyChair

So this will it's more train will go for two more months.

Nectarios Pittos

Uh yes, but the if if the moratorium were to pass its retroactive back to January, I believe.

StarkeyChair

So it What I'm sorry. When does

Unidentified speakerVoice A

it expire? Expansion can is not going to expand the time the moratorium is in place. Right. So if if The original ordinance expires April 2022 without further action of this board. That's when it's gonna expire.

StarkeyChair

I don't think legally we can expand it more than one year.

Okay.

Moore

I you know we Oh.

I don't think I need to Continue to speak on this. We know my con my uh issues with it um as well as we've heard from economic development professionals actually have written this letter. We've heard from the sheriff's office. We've heard of their concerns. We've, you know, the people that spoke today, I appreciate them speaking. We spoke to people that represent um the apartment industry from Tampa. We've also heard from somebody that lives in Tampa. I mean I didn't have one person that actually lives in Pasco

County, come up and speak against this item today. The majority of people, I'm sure you've heard the same, that live in Pasco County are for this. And I represent the citizens of Pasco County.

MarianoVice Chair

Madam Clerk

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Yes.

MarianoVice Chair

You know, when we look at the traffic in the corridor. We're trying to do improvements. It's gonna take time. Um the e east less east west gridlock. There's no solution that ULI first looked at down the fifty-four card. That did not happen. So all of a sudden now we got the extra density without the traffic flow to go with it. Um some of these decisions could have come in where we take a job creating piece of land and turn into apartments where costing ourselves jobs. So I'm I'm comfortable with what we've got on place. I'll

make a motion. Approved.

StarkeyChair

Under okay. Now we're under discussion. Um You know, I'm I'm a little torn here because it's only two months uh is this extension, so uh I don't think I don't think um If it was a year, I for sure wouldn't be voting for it. Um, but I I I agree with um the representative from the chamber. That That um we need more workforce and affordable housing. Um And

I hear it I get calls all the time. People can't find a place to live. We're trying to attract companies here. And where are they gonna live? because there is no inventory out there for someone to um be purchasing a house or or uh renting an apartment. Um So uh I know this is gonna pass, but just because of my work with workforce housing and affordable housing, I think I think I'm gonna vote no, but I know it's gonna pass. And um

uh Com uh just a minute, Commissioner Oakley, I have one more thought I was gonna say. Um I I agree that we want to protect jobs. Um but I think we can have housing and jobs. And I I think we've been shown that opportunity and When you saw the report from The Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council that showed vertical mixed use. And uh that is jobs and housing. And so I think it can be done if we if we put our mind

to it that we can have both. Commissioner Oakley.

Oakley

Right. The problem with this issue and and we've seen it grow pretty good is not affordable housing because these houses, these apartments are renting for $2,000, $2,200 a month. That's not affordable housing for people. We do need affordable housing in our county. Um but some of this housing is is not for jobs in our county, but for jobs in other counties nearby. And so we need to focus on jobs in our county and housing in our county. And because of

this moratorium, We've had other areas of the county. that have come up with some multifamily uh projects. that wouldn't have come up if this was still open and they could come here. But it's in other areas of our county that we're going to get some of the uh multifamily housing up.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, and you know, you bring a big point good point. I want to ask our staff, um, and just kind of going to what Hope said, I think that we do have an exclusion for workforce housing. So is that correct that this m moratorium would not exclude workforce housing?

Nectarios Pittos

I Madam Chair, I would have to uh refer to the documents really quick if you give me a moment.

StarkeyChair

Because I think we are, you know, working to incentivize workforce housing.

Unidentified speaker

I believe affordable housing in the West Market area were exempt from the moratorium. Well

StarkeyChair

everything outside of his district is not in the moratorium, but I just wanna know If um not that I know of any um workforce housing that's coming, but certainly we want some in that area. Oh yeah. So people who live who work there can live there. But I I'm just checking to see if we've included because if not, I maybe would want to make an amendment, though it's only two months. That if someone came in with an affordable housing project We would want that, right?

Moore

Madam Chair, since we're while we're waiting and I mean, again, the motion we have a motion and a second, so I don't know how much um I'll call the question in a second. Um well he's and why after he does that, then I'll call the question. Um but again, you know, talking to people obviously on the economic development side, in the and people that are trying to bring businesses to this county, um the big concern is that along that fifty four and fifty-six corridor, we're running out of that land. So it has the proper zoning now to bring in commercial not only retail but office as well. We have

master mill plant communities that were very well thought out. E.G. Wiregrass, for example, that has the entitlements. Avalon Park West has entitlements. When we work together with those communities to build that quote, really true walkable community, that's when it makes sense. But we can't continue to lose our job-creating sites. It makes it very difficult on our economic development team. It makes it very difficult on our EDC to be able to recruit those companies or bring those companies here because they want to be. Along major corridors. And we heard when I asked

the questions to Bill Cronin, which is the obviously economic development pro for our county and knows more than anybody about that. He said that's a concern. So I

StarkeyChair

had I had breakfast with Mr. Cronin yesterday and we talked or Friday, we talked specifically about this, and he agrees when you're bringing in a company that is bringing 500 jobs, they need to have one of the things they're gonna look at is is housing available for the people that are coming here. So uh listening. I work very hard on economic development and bringing jobs here. That's why I started a workforce training program. It's why I chair economic development or vice chair for the National Association Accounting. So I I do know a lot. I

do work with economic development. I think you need both. And I'm looking forward to the study to see where we are. But I'm asking you about workforce housing.

Nectarios Pittos

Madam Clerk. uh original ordinance for the moratorium did not distinguish between uh any type of multifamily. So the multifamily in general, it did not carve out any exceptions for affordable. Uh housing.

Moore

We have a motion second call the question.

Fitzpatrick

Commissioner Fitzpatrick. I believe that was when I re made the motion to remove multifamilies from C2 housing. That's when they kept in the West Market and the affordable housing and other exceptions.

Moore

He is

Unidentified speakerVoice D

correct.

Fitzpatrick

Yes,

Unidentified speakerVoice D

sir.

Fitzpatrick

All right. Well we'll we'll go. When when is this presentation gonna be ready to be presented to the board? Because the moratorium is allowed only until the ordinance is updated.

Nectarios Pittos

We're working on the study uh with the intent of bringing Uh information to the board members. Towards the end of March.

Fitzpatrick

Okay, thank you. So it will be before the moratorium ends.

Nectarios Pittos

Um In terms of the initial information, yes, but in terms of presenting at the board meeting, that may occur in April.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Um so I guess I'm gonna go ahead and support it because it's just for a few more months and I think we'll have Rogall or Yeah. So uh Roll Calvo.

StarkeyChair

District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Moore. Aye. District four, Commissioner Fitzpatrick.

Fitzpatrick

Aye.

StarkeyChair

District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District three, Chairman Mariano. Starkey. Hi.

Thank you all.

StarkeyChair

Um common sense

Moore

prevailed. Good job. Appreciate it.

StarkeyChair

Then we're at

StarkeyChair

a big yeah.