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Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Consent) - CPA22(04) Seven Diamonds Commerce Park PD - Providing For A Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 05) From RES-1 (Residential- 1 Du/Ga) To PD (Planned Development) On Approximately 188.7 Acres Of Real Property Located East Of U.S. Highway 41, South Of Seven Oak Trail, North Of Alabama Road; And A Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.67 – Seven Diamonds Commerce Park PD; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(67) Seven Diamonds Commerce Park PD

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Denise

The next item is PC 13, and that is presented by Amy Toll.

GreyChair

Okay.

Ms. Hiler? Oh Ms I miss Tolony.

Amy Heiler

Whatever whatever works. Whatever, huh? Whatever works.

Moody

Just Amy.

Amy Heiler

Uh Amy Tolpe with Planning and Development. So the item before you is PDD twenty three dash zero four nine two. It is a proposed comprehensive plan amendment in the name of Seven Diamonds Commerce Park. So, as previously stated, it is a proposed comprehensive plan amendment. The applicant is proposing an amendment from RES 1 residential, 1 dwelling unit per gross acre to PD plan development to allow for the development of an industrial park, which includes a mixture of heavy and light industrial uses on approximately

557.46 acres. There is an associated sub-area policy that will run alongside this, which establishes the intensities and development standards for this project. And it is located on the east side of US 41, on the west side of the CXX CSX Railway. So the subject property is located in the North Market area and rural transition area two.

Here's a visual location of the subject site being uh east of US Highway 41 and west of the CSX Railroad.

The existing future land use of Res One.

And the proposed future land use to P D.

Here's a context map that is provided alongside the applicant sub-area policy. What you see here is the proposed development with light industrial uses along the outer edges adjacent to the category one wetland and existing residential development and heavy industrial uses proposed on the interior. This is a context map. That also identifies the uh the residential MPUDs adjacent to the subject

site. So to the north, you have Pasco Lake Acres MPUD, to the south, Pasco Lake Estates MPUD, and to the west is the Log Lago Verde MPUD, aka Seven Diamonds Mine. The intent of the applicant's proposal is to is to expand the mine operation. transform across the street or across US Highway 41. The following comprehensive the following uh uh the proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies.

And with that, we recommend the local planning agency uh find the proposed amendment consistent with the comprehensive plan and approve to the Board of County Commissioners. Um and you are acting as the local planning agency for this item. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer. Applicants here as well.

GirardiVice Chair

One question and Either you or Barbara can clarify. I don't remember Seven Diamonds being an M PUD. I thought it was

Yeah.

Amy Heiler

Um is that correct? Okay. Yeah. She says that was right.

Barbara Wilhite

Barbara Will High 6327 Grand Boulevard in New Port Richey for the applicant. Um couple things. We are not Lager Verde. My client is is Seven Diamonds. They own Seven Diamonds Mine, which is a Lime Rock Mine to the west. There's also another Lime Rock Mine, and that's a conditional use. There's another Lime Rock mine, Lago Verde, to the west as well. The other thing is we are not expanding either of those mines. This is a separate project. Currently it is a or

was used as a borough pit and they um took sand out of it and they now like to develop it into a commerce park. So if you look at this tragic location of this property, it sits across from two limrock mines with blasting that produce materials. Normally, what's happening today is those materials are leaving those mines and going north or south on 41 to facilities where then they can be processed into things.

So the idea here is to co locate this commer this park for light and heavy industrial certain heavy industrial uses right across the street. So the materials only have to go from where they're located coming out of the ground and across the streets this location. To our east is a CSX railway line, so that presents certain opportunities as well and it makes a very good place to put something. We are doing light industrial,

can go anywhere. Within the center of the of the park is where we can have some, in addition to light industrial, some heavy industrial uses. When I read those two you'll get the point of Of why we're saying that here, because they all relate to the materials that are coming out of the ground across the street. Those particular those specific uses are Ready Mix Plant, Paver Plant, Concrest, and specialty product concrete products manufacturing, soil cement mixing plant, road-building materials manufacturing, and asphalt plant. So that is our request.

And we are here to answer questions after we hear what the public comment is.

Moody

Okay. Does the mine that exist the sand mine that exists on the property today Do they have the ability to still operate that mine today? Not

Not considering this Comp plan amendment.

Barbara Wilhite

The answer is yes. They have the ability to continue to be able to do that.

I extend them every year to if there's a hurricane, they're ex usually get extended by emergency order. So I don't remember what the but they get extended every year. They also have full permits for a subdivision as well. So we're definitely converting this to an employment generating use versus

Moody

So will the up will the Mining operation stop on the property if this Happens if this is approved.

Barbara Wilhite

Yes. Okay.

Connected City

Just as a matter of clarification, the

Barbara Wilhite

We'll stop. Yes, when this is approved. Yes, the answer is yes.

Moody

But they have the legal right to do it to continue the mining if they want.

Barbara Wilhite

That's correct.

Connected City

Uh just as a matter of clarification, the um here it states 188.7 acres approximately, um but on the presentation it was five hundred and something acres it was noted.

For consistency.

Barbara Wilhite

It's a hundred and eighty eight point seven acres.

Connected City

Okay. Yeah, it was a five hundred and something on your slide. Okay. Just double checking.

Um

Also regarding so wastewater as well. There's no um capacity, future capacity for wastewater. Is this uh

Has that been addressed?

Barbara Wilhite

It's gonna be served by well and septic and then whatever fire protection the fire marshal requires.

Moody

They'll have half acre lots, right?

Barbara Wilhite

I could say so much, but I won't.

Denise

So on this item there are some folks signed up to speak. Um first is Kathy Alvarez.

GreyChair

Yeah, so you give us your name and address please.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

And I live at [address removed]. Now, my house is not that far from where they want to do this. When I moved up there over twenty years ago, I was told that all this land where they knocked down all these trees and got rid of all this habitat for all these animals was protected. And now I sit outside and all I see is this big empty field and I hear all these trucks going by. I've my house has been subject to blasting. It

shakes every time they m they mine. Every home on my road except for two is over twenty years old. Who's gonna pay for the damage of my house if all of a sudden my well goes down or my septic goes down or my house goes down? Who's gonna pay? I'm gonna have to contact my insurance company and then my rates go up. And what about air quality? I've got serious lung issues. And they're g they want to bring in cement factories and stuff? What about people like me with serious lung issues? They've

been out there burning and burning and burning. I can't even go in my backyard. Because the smoke is so bad. I walk in my house, all I can smell is smoke from out there in the fields. They need to stop and look at people. And animals. Not just these big old corporations. Because we m we matter too. Thank you very much.

GreyChair

All right. Thank you.

Denise

We also have Stephanie Shatzman.

Stephanie Shatzman

Stephanie Schussmann [address removed]. I've lived there for 30 years in the Winding Creek subdivision and Pasco County has never, ever done anything to benefit our community. In 2013, Lego Verde Mine was approved with the understanding Pasco County was going to change the Land O'Douvel Code to stop a proliferation of mines. That mine was approved when

in Pasco County's records. They were in a foreclosure, but Pasco County approved them anyway, and eleven months later they went bankrupt and of course it started the seven diamonds. Um Mm-hmm. Seven Diamonds was approved in twenty seventeen. And they have a Facebook page. This and they said they were gonna blast different Than Legoverti mine, because people are horrified when Legovertime blasts. They said they had a different method. Well, their

Facebook page, which has a little number of people, they blasted by the second blast and somebody commented that they had never been impacted. They felt it. I thought about your Shady Hills two developments that you just approved. 'Cause there's some guy over on Suncoast that he goes to a different Facebook page and he comments on how he feels those blasts and how he doesn't think his house is gonna make it. Now We

flood from the Pasco Lake Weir. There's a 42-foot, 42-mile basin. It goes around seven diamonds property and it goes under 41 and it literally floods us. These are I'll just put them over to records. But this is a house that is at becomes an island. This is the uh Seven Diamonds Weir. This is what you're seeing what happens almost on a yearly basis to us where our Mahoney Drive properties,

they just flood. So the one acre home development uh is a better idea for our area. It's safer for us. Um I could go on and on, but I I really think I'm talking about Goliath. It's already done. As the lady said, the whole property's been ripped up, um, all clear lotted. When we were in a burn band, they were burning and burning and burning and um I thought maybe by the grace of God we'll actually get city water up

there. No, apparently we're gonna get wells and septic. We're over they're probably seven or eight miles from the fire department. I I don't see any more industrial. We're overloaded with dump trucks already. Now they want to put it what? Cement and all kinds of heavy industry. We're we're a rule. residential area. They Pasco County destroyed us in 2013

by approving when it was in a bankruptcy. I don't know how they missed it. My husband had just died. And it took a while for me to recover. When I did it was the first thing. I don't know. I don't think you guys do a thorough research. I don't think you do anything, but rubber stamp approvals for Goliath. It's all about money. Us us citizens we don't stand a chance.

GreyChair

Okay. Thank you for coming.

Stephanie Shatzman

Oh, can I submit this stuff to see

GreyChair

your photographs?

Stephanie Shatzman

Excuse me? Can I

Moody

see your photograph?

Stephanie Shatzman

Absolutely. Because this is what happens in since 1994, and we have complained and complained. There are literally

GirardiVice Chair

Ma'am, you can't keep testifying a period. Can we have to go back there if we're going to make a motion to receive and file a second? Move to receive and file. Second.

GreyChair

Okay.

Aye. Aye. Yes. I understood. Okay.

Did you have something else you wanted to say?

Stephanie Shatzman

No, I think the buzzer went off. My time's up.

GreyChair

Well, you know, I've tried to be polite and give you as much time as possible.

Stephanie Shatzman

Oh well. I mean we sent The commissioners from Lagos. That is Laura Wilmingham's home.

Is that where is that on a map? Can you show us where that is on a map?

Um If you can do uh Winding Street or Shady Hills Home Owners Association. Mm.

We also abut seven diamonds.

GirardiVice Chair

And again you can't testify from that location. You have to come back over here. Can you

GreyChair

not see

GirardiVice Chair

the uh screen from over here?

GreyChair

Yeah, if you can just point and we'll figure it out.

Stephanie Shatzman

Okay, so except I can't see it. But Mahoney Drive Where you see the curve of it?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah.

Stephanie Shatzman

To Mahoney Drive.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Mm-hmm.

Stephanie Shatzman

before it gets to the curve There is Mahoney's I mean there's Williams William Hands. That becomes an island. I mean I have zillions of these pictures because I used to go up in a plane every year and take pictures of these. And then right to the south of her is another property that becomes an island. What happens is The Weir, seven diamonds weir. It's not really theirs, but it butts their property. floats Pasco

Lake fills It flows under forty one and And it comes into our subdivision. and our subdivision floods. It doesn't flood from the hurricane rains from above or heavy rains. It floods from this coming in.

Moody

Are you but are you saying the water comes from this the proposed development?

Stephanie Shatzman

It comes from the Pasco Lake. So I'm just saying the more that you concrete that, the more that you put more houses there, whatever. There's more of a tendency for where's that water gonna go? Because if you notice um

Pasco Lake, uh not Pasco, um Mike Moore last year or wherever, whenever, he said that more and more existing subdivisions were complaining that new development was causing them the flood. We already flood. We don't need a saturation of concrete.

Moody

Okay, that's a that's all I'm trying to figure out is you're trying you're not saying that they are currently flooding you. You're

Stephanie Shatzman

concerned that they might

Moody

flood you.

Stephanie Shatzman

No. That that's that's a forty two mile basin and it's just when that Pasco lake gets filled, it comes to us. So the more you Do high density or concrete or whatever, you're just gonna end up Changing the flood pl pattern as far as I na I'm not an expert. But that's what I believe.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Okay.

Stephanie Shatzman

Okay. And so you have approved these to go over there?

GreyChair

Yes.

GirardiVice Chair

I sure I have. Thank you.

Mm-hmm. Mm mm. Mr. Chairman I have a question for staff. Yes. So Amy, can you explain the utility findings in your staff report because I'm I f I feel like there's a disconnect between What you're saying in the staff report in terms of the availability of water and sewer And then the actual testimony this is gonna be Well in septic. I mean is there a plan to bring water and sewer to this Area that's

Amy Heiler

Uh Amy Haller Planning and Development. So or Amy Toll. Um the the table and the statement that for utility capacity, that is is that the what you're referencing with the numbers and the capacity. So that is the official capacity statement from our utilities department.

GirardiVice Chair

But I yeah, I mean, I think that's a good thing I just attended a luncheon yesterday where all the industrial users are saying how important water and sewer is for light industrial. It's a little bit of a concern to me if you're telling if somebody's saying that It's gonna be well in septic. I mean I don't know how that It seems like that's gonna be hard to support a viable commerce park on Mm-hmm. Well. Is there a plan of some kind to bring water and sewer to this area?

Amy Heiler

I could verify that. I'm not sure what the utilities department is noting.

Connected City

And that goes back to my question about sewer capacity.

Amy Heiler

Yeah. Yeah. Are you referencing the zero? Zero, yeah. The zero. Okay. So with the sewer capacity, the numbers that were captured from their analysis, basically it shows what's the the uh existing capacity, what's the proposed capacity, and the uncommitted capacity. So when

you exactly and basically, Basically in their statement, they say that even though they recognize that there's an overcapacity that they're planned for, they are going to accommodate or make the changes to the CIP to accommodate for that overcapacity. So that's their statement or the generalized statement in the assessment that they provide to us.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay. And to be clear, my question wasn't about the plant capacity. And I it's a legitimate concern, but I mean the the county usually finds a way to build plant capacity. I'm more concerned about Transmission line. Is there a transmission where is the closest water and sewer Transmission line for to this property and is it something they can connect to?

Barbara Wilhite

This is Barbara Woolheit for the applicant. The uh it's down at Talavera. uh the MI's project, south of the project and My client met with the utilities department and They don't tend to in the

We are not going to be a big plant. um like a manufacturing plan or something that would have a lot of demand or Gary plastics or those types of things, we're not gonna have those types of in light industrial users that need that. We basically have employees that flush toilets and wash their hands. So

GirardiVice Chair

I I recognize that your heavy industrial probably won't, but you have two light industrial pieces which presumably

Could be something that has more employees that flush toilets and

Barbara Wilhite

Yes. There would be people working there but the we don't expect the industry that needs water. So we don't need water and sewer.

Moody

I h I hear you, but one of the things that I know that goes along with light Light in d light industrial development. is overhead doors. And when the health department evaluates the estimated sewage flow for that type of use, they look at the number of overhead doors. And I know from designing these types of facilities that that's what they want, that's what they're gonna have, and

I think what What's gonna happen? doesn't necessarily mean we can't do this, but I think what's gonna happen is you're gonna find that a lot of the developable area especially in the light industrial part, is going to end up being consumed by septic drain field. By virtue of having the overhead doors in the metal buildings. So that's gonna severely maybe a severe limitation on their ability to actually

maximize their potential for light industrial use. Not saying it's a reason to deny it, but I'm just saying that that's a Something they may have to recognize. It's easy to say, Yeah, we'll have well and septic, but when you go look at the code and how they estimate the sewage flow They may find that That m might not be as practical as they think.

Barbara Wilhite

Yeah, I could either have my plans here if you want to do that.

GirardiVice Chair

I I'm just I'm more adequate disclosure to the the board and public and I don't even know if P D C and economic growth news about the I mean To me it's very misleading to put a comment on a staff report that There implies there's water and sewer capacity. When you're not planning to put to use any of it. I mean there should have been a statement from utilities in here saying But we have no plans to provide any water and sewer to this site.

Moody

What would be their responsibility to extend the lines to their site, correct?

GirardiVice Chair

Well I mean if the applicant says they're willing to extend the lines, that's a different conversation, but uh but that's not what I'm hearing.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Perhaps I I may be able to straighten this out. I I haven't been sworn in but

GreyChair

Oh okay. Well let's get you sworn in then.

GirardiVice Chair

Mm. He doesn't technically have to, but if if out of habit if you're the applicant. He's such a s he's such a nice guy, let him swear.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Lou Friedland, uh eight thirty-one James Street in Dunedin, Florida. Um The the concept of what we're doing here is that um we have we own um the mine across the street that has Um significant materials that get delivered to all over the place in Pasco County. One of the things that we've learned is that Pasco County's not thrilled

about having uh heavy industrial one plant over here and another plant down the street and those kind of things. And um Owning the property across street. The delivery of materials, number one. Instead of having to take the raw material and deliver it twenty miles to a Um a processing plan versus doing it across the street will save significant money. in transportation and and take

a lot of trucks off the road. Um And the and if you'll look at our application Um You know, they wanted us to identify specific type uses. That would be on those and those are related to the supply of the rock mining materials. that we're processing across the street. So if you look, there's not if you go to the heavy industrial

uses in in your ordinance as you'll see hundreds of things. Here we've talked about These are concrete uh products that can be built there, ready mix plants, paper plants, excuse me, block plants, those kind of things. So The types of of Of um Uh the types of uh products that are gonna be in there.

Ten acre, twelve acer, fourteen acre. sites that are gonna have, you know, a couple of hundred employees throughout the entire side and They're gonna be washing their hands and flushing toilets and And when we went to the utility department, we're about three and a half miles from the closest water and sewer. and talked to them about it, they said, you don't use enough water to ever you know, you're gonna have to flush out the end of the line every day. And

your sewers sewage is gonna rot in the in the either in the well that you're pumping it back from or in the lines in you know, we we don't wanna serve you at you know, maybe it in some future date we would. So we've we've we talked about it but Um our uses are gonna be very small and the light industrial on both sides If you look at at what's going on in light industrial and according to the

PEDC guys, They're a light industrial parks going up all over the place. Ours are anticipating light industrial uses that support the the products that are being manufactured in there. And again, we're not talking about Big deliveries. If you look at the acreage It's about ten percent light industrial and then the rest is heavy. So We don't anticipate any multi-door

trucking, delivery, warehousing of of light. We're expecting things that um are guys that fix things for light and heavy industrial users and those kind of things. So

Our use is going to be very, very low in water and sewer and and that's what the

GirardiVice Chair

I'll just ask you a direct question, 'cause I know you're a street shooter, so When P D C supported this project. I know they said they wanted a certain amount of light industrial.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

No, no, no, they didn't want they didn't want it. You guys wanted it. Let me

Barbara Wilhite

answer the question. Let me just answer the question for

you.

Because I do remember the call. So I remember when Dr. Gills and and Mr. Freeland, I was there, we met with PEDC. They The b the project was heavy industrial and there Everybody's very supportive of that given the location. They asked Handshake across the room, would you do some light industrial for us? That's how that was born. So it wasn't a we don't support what you're doing unless they asked gentlemen and gentlemen, would you do some light industrial? And and Mr and Dr. Gill said yes.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay. Well they've supported what the current application.

So my question is when they supported it, were they aware that it didn't have water and sewer? That's my I Because

Barbara Wilhite

it never came up when I was in our conversations.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay. I'm only asking this question because I just sat sat there with lunch yesterday where they kept talking about how important water and sewer is to light industrials. So If if they can mark if they think that this c site can be marketed for a light industrial without water and sewer That'd be fantastic. I just it'd be nice to hear from them that maybe before this goes to the board, if they could just confirm that They still support the project.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

I can tell you that the users, light industrial users that we're already talking to, because This has all of a sudden become an an interesting spot because o of our location. Um We tell everybody what we're doing over there and it's it's a you know, well in septic kind situation, so And th there's I like I say it's a very small Portion of light industrial.

Moody

David is there any you know the utility

Is there anything that would stop them if they needed A bigger Water supply. or sewage treatment capacity that would stop them from doing their own on site package plant or their own on site water treatment plant?

GirardiVice Chair

I'm not keep I'm not qualified to answer that question. I don't. I don't know the answer to that.

Moody

I just think that's a good thing. You know, does Pasco County have a is is that a monopoly for Pasco County?

GirardiVice Chair

I've heard that there's some that we have another project Up in northeast Pasco where they're proposing something like that. But I don't know if utilities would accept that here. or not. Um I mean, I think that's a good thing. if there was a light industrial user that really needed water and sewer that somebody could pay to extend the lines. But it would not be cheap, but it but It could be done. Um Right. I just want to make sure all I'm asking is that when is it 'cause

Part of the reason I know staff supported this project was because PDC supported this project

My concern is the disclosure issue because Staff has got a staff right up making it sound like there's water in sewer. I don't know if P D C knew there wasn't. Okay.

Connected City

So could you say again what what some of the intended uses were? You said block production and

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Go ahead and read.

Barbara Wilhite

Sure.

Gotta find my piece of paper here.

Connected City

You rattled them off a second ago, but short term memory.

Barbara Wilhite

And I have to look here. Yeah that's it looks like that one, but it's not that one.

I hid it for myself. They're limited to ready mix plant, paver plant, concrete plant. These are the heavy, lights light, but heavy is mix uh ready mixed plant, paver plant, concrete products, and specialty concrete products manufacturing, soil cement mixing plant, road building materials manufacturing, and asphalt plant.

Connected City

So the concrete, I mean I know concrete uses a decent amount of water, so Do you you feel that that's going to be supported by Well, Service on that property? Concrete and block?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Um they'll each have a uh separate well for non potable water.

Moody

The majority of our public water supply if you're on county water, comes from wells. there are big wells and there's multiple wells but that's where it comes from, the vast majority of it. So I don't think there's any technical reason he can't do it and I'm Looking at the sand mine. It looks like there's water down there. So I mean they've got the ability to get the water. And they don't mind

Unidentified speakerVoice D

using that water

Moody

for

Unidentified speakerVoice D

manufacturing of

Moody

the Okay.

Is the amount of land they'll have to allocate for drain field systems. which also gonna depend on employees' uses.

Wells don't occupy much land.

GreyChair

Some of these sites are gonna be acreage type sites. I think they're gonna have plenty of room. All of them

Unidentified speakerVoice D

are gonna be acreage

GreyChair

for well and septic tank.

So I mean I don't see that as a problem really water and sewer based upon this type And size of lots they're doing.

In fact, in my in my opinion, I think it's gonna consume

uh than if if you put two hundred homes on the property. Oh yeah. You're right.

Moody

You're definitely less public. Where they could potentially run into some depending if you had a big manufacturing option, thinking of the plastics. Right. Over on Hayes Road, but for the uses they're talking about, I'm not sure that that creates that big of a problem.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

And that's why we identified the types of uses that we're using was the You share with the They were specific to

GreyChair

I mean we have a number of those uses right there in Trinity on fifty-four. um concrete block plants and Stuff like that. I mean you just drive by 'em every day, you don't even think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, paw

Moody

materials

GreyChair

are over there,

Moody

aren't they? And would you be able to do that? Is it that you're planning to develop a concrete Plant or you'll be selling a parcel of land to somebody to come in to

Unidentified speakerVoice D

We're we're not gonna be in the retail concrete and We we have Lots of good uh

Moody

the reason for my question was to address the lady's comment. She was concerned about air quality and I wanted to let you know that operations involving cement and concrete require air pollution discharge permits from the Department of Environmental Protection, so it's not that they can just start going out and pumping concrete dust into the air willy nilly with nobody looking at 'em. They're there is a process to make sure that doesn't happen.

GirardiVice Chair

So we've already made it clear to the applicant that we would be addressing those issues in the MPUD. They're they're aware of it. We've already had those conversations. Um so Right. I think when the M P D comes back to you you'll see see some language addressing those protections. I'm aware that the state's gonna require it,

Moody

so that's

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Yeah the and the the new the new rules on air pollution for Those kind of uh Processes are are v have gotten very strict in Florida.

Moody

Same thing. I understand that the state is going to you know, hold your feet to the fire when it comes to stormwater discharge issues too. So I'm not concerned that this is going to create Some additional flooding impact.

Connected City

Has there been talk about buffering be f between the neighborhoods to the north and south? Against the light industrial.

Barbara Wilhite

Yes, we have um on our MPD plan which I think our PD concept plan here is similar, it has the buffering and the setbacks.

Gotta see what

Amy, did you click do you have the PD concept plan?

The answer's yes. There is specific we've been very thoughtful about the buffering we did. I can't find the numbers at the sec at this moment, but maybe Paul might know, Paul Manual back there. Um about buffering and the setbacks from the north and the south. Our south has a wetland on it. Um so we We have a built-in separary policy that deals with the the wetland buffering and to the north we have a specific s building setback and buffering up there as well. Right there we go. Thank you. Yes. We have a seventy foot to

the north a seventy five foot building setback and a uh twenty foot type C landscape buffer um to the north. Those are as I recall exceed code. And

Unidentified speakerVoice D

those are right industrial, which uses only.

Barbara Wilhite

And then and both to our north and our south we have light industrial.

Connected City

Yeah, so it's kind of a buffer in itself to the heavy industrial in the middle.

Barbara Wilhite

And we did to the w east we did a zero landscape buffer because that's where the um C SX Railroad is.

GreyChair

All right. Are there any other questions?

Okay.

Barbara Wilhite

No, I think we cover everything unless you want me to do anything else.

GirardiVice Chair

The only thing I would ask if we are gonna recommend approval, that it be with an instruction to Staff to update their utility needs assessment in the staff report to more accurately reflect Availability of water and sewer to the site.

GreyChair

Okay, I think that's a good idea.

Connected City

Okay.

GreyChair

So mm somebody gonna make a motion? Concluding that statement.

Moody

So moved. Okay. I move to approve and One of the things that I am most pleased about with this application. is its proximity to the CSX Railroad. The county would like to have light industrial and maybe some heavy industrial development. And if you want to have that you have to set the table for that. Those Especially heavy industry. Heavy industry

requires a major mode of transportation and you know, let's face it, US nineteen is not the best way to get raw materials in and finished goods out. But that's what railroads are for. And I would love to see the county one day invest in some type of railroad spur somewhere where we can get that service in here so that we can create more areas that are conducive to this type of development and bring bring better paying jobs.

Connected City

Okay.

GreyChair

So we have a motion. We have a second.

Connected City

I'll second that too and state, you know, I I understand the concerns of the residents nearby and you know hopefully some of the buffering and some of the uh the the the things that they're looking at doing with the light industrial and near the neighborhoods as opposed to heavy industrial there can help uh assuage some of those issues and concerns. But um I agree with Mr. Moody that it makes a lot of sense in between a major roadway uh and uh a rail. Um it And and we need more job

generating uh spaces like this in the county. There's a lot of complaints about all this multifamily going on. Well this is not that. Um and so Um we need when a development like this presents itself we need to uh Do the best we can to try to make it work.

GreyChair

Okay, so we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?

Christopher Poole

I'll agree with everything that my colleague said. It's I mean we we uh This is a great I appreciate the vision of the applicant in in uh bringing this forward. I think it's a it's a great development where it's where it's needed. Um Fully in favor of it.

GreyChair

Okay.

Christopher Poole

Chris or anything? I don't vote on this one. He gets away

GreyChair

easy. That's right.

Christopher Poole

Yeah,

GreyChair

but you still live here.

Okay. So uh We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign. Okay, motion carries.