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Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPA22(04) Seven Diamonds Commerce Park PD - Providing for Transmittal of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 and Sheet 05) from RES-1 (Residential-1 Du/Ga) to PD (Planned Development) on Approximately 188.7 Acres of Real Property Located East of U.S. Highway 41, South of Seven Oak Trail, North of Alabama Road; and a Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.67 – Seven Diamonds Commerce Park PD; and a Map Amendment to the Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(67) Seven Diamonds Commerce Park PD

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDD-23-0492District 1

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MarianoChair

Aye. Okay. Okay. Item P seventy seven. Do we have proof?

Stephanie Shatzman

Yes, sir, we do

Starkey

Tampa Bay Times, July fifth, twenty twenty three, and by affidavit uh certified mailings and site postings.

OakleyVice Chair

Item P seventy seven is uh C P A twenty two oh four seven Diamonds Commerce Park P D. And we have staff to make a presentation regarding the comprehensive plan transmitted to the Formerly the Florida Commerce Department, which is formerly DEO.

Amy Heiler

Good afternoon, Amy Tull with Planning and Development. The item before you is CPA 2204, Seven Diamonds Commerce Park. As Terry mentioned, this is the transmitter hearing for the proposed comprehensive plan amendment. So, as stated, this is a proposed comprehensive plan amendment. The existing future land use is res one residential one dwelling unit per gross acre. The applicant is proposing a future land use change to PD plan development to allow for a mixture of heavy and light industrial uses

on approximately 188.7 acres. The subject site is located on the east side of U.S. Highway 41. Approxim a couple miles north of State Road fifty two. There is an accompanying sub-area policy running alongside the Planned Development Future Land Use Classification in the name of Sub-area Policy Flu 7.1677 Diamonds Commerce Park PD. There is also a proposed rezoning petition to MPUD to implement the standards set forth

in the sub-area policy. The proposed uh site is located in the Northmark area and rural transition area.

Here's a location map or aerial view of the proposed area location. Your current zoning district is currently R two low density residential. The applicant is proposing a accompanying rezoning to MPUD master plane unit development.

The existing future land use being res one.

And the proposed future land use being P D.

Here is the accompanying sub-area policy concept plan. As you can see, the entire area is actually planned to allow for light industrial uses, with heavy industrial uses only located along the interior of the proposed development. It is also located west of the CSX Railway as well as east of US Highway 41. There is a residential community to the north of Pasco Lakes Acres, and then there's also a

residential community to the south after the Category One wetland called Pasco Lakes States. The Seven Diamonds Mine is also on the other side of the street or on the west side of US Highway 41. The proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies. Uh primarily the applicant's proposal from RES One to PD to allow for industrial uses is supported by various employment

generating uh land use policies in place. And with that, we recommend you authorize transmittal to the Department of Commerce and other reviewing agencies. And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

MarianoChair

Any questions for staff?

Okay.

Amy Heiler

Thank you.

Barbara Wilhite

Yeah. So

Keith Wiley

Makes sense.

Barbara Wilhite

Good afternoon again. Barbara Wilhite, sixty three twenty seven Grand Boulevard, Newport Ritchie, three four six five two for the applicant. Make sure an owner of the property. Ms. Wilhite, you've been sworn, right? I I've been sworn, thank you.

Just wanted to point out that um we have not asked for all heavy industrial uses. So as Ms. Hyler said, Stoll said, Mrs. Stoll said that um all the property can have light industrial. We've asked for certain heavy industrial uses centered in the property. But those certain ones, and when I tell you what they are, you'll be able to make the connection to why. We're requesting these ready mix plant, paver plant, concrete products, and specialty concrete products manufacturing,

soil cement mixing plant, road building material manufacturing, and asphalt plant. Basically, the concept is to take the materials that are generated over at Seven Diamonds Mind and be able to move them here and make things with them, just as simple as that can be. And so that cuts down on trips. If not, we take the things from the materials from mine and they go other places like to Hernando and they do this manufacturing and processing and then they come right back down on your roads to serve your development and your construction including you know county products projects as well.

So I just want to give that perspective of of why this is here. And obviously this area across from two lime limestone mines, this makes a lot of sense next to um CSX Railroad. And we do have the MPUD coming. We've been working on it with um with staff and the county attorney's office. A lot of unusual conditions in there that I haven't um ever had the benefit of doing before. But the County Attorney's Office really want to make sure that when we have some of these uses that we w we worry about air

quality and and making sure that there's conditions that not only the DEP, we actually move the DEP conditions into our MPUD conditions so that the county can enforce them if the if the DEP doesn't. So we of course we can talk more about that. This is just transmittal. Because it's a large scale, we don't bring them together. So we'll we're gonna do if you'll transmit it today, then we'll bring back and you'll see the MPUD and the and the adoption at the same time. So thank you.

MarianoChair

Uh Barbara? So question for you. As far as the uh buffering goes, uh I'm glad to see that you're putting length industrial on the edges. Are you doing any anything extra to what the code says as far as to buffer the property? I know you did that before with the mine next door, but

Barbara Wilhite

Yes, we do have setbacks and additional buffering. If I could read the scale of this plan, um but we'll we will have that in the MPUD. Okay. So we will make sure that we bring that forward.

MarianoChair

I'll be looking for it.

Barbara Wilhite

Good.

MarianoChair

Any other questions for Barbara? Yeah, yeah. I have a question

Unidentified speakerVoice A

for staff,

MarianoChair

but Okay. Uh let me try to do public comment. Okay. Anyone here to speak to this item in public comment?

Starkey

You have two individuals signed up, Stephanie Shatzman, followed by Jack Jones.

Stephanie Shatzman

Stephanie Schossman, [address removed]. John Moody on the planning board said this was a good place for a concrete plant because Pasco County didn't want this type of heavy industry in other parts of Pasco. Seriously, Pasco County has no concerns for crossbar welfare, the environment or prosperity, economic viability. mobility and health of the residents that call this section of Pasco County home. Uh John Money said

that we would drive by the concrete plant without noticing if it as he drives unaware by the state road concrete plant. What a stupid statement. According to the Pasco County Growth. and management department in tw 2011, the consistie determination stated, as disclosed in the comprehensive plan and policy review section, the proposed limestone mining operation is considered as incompatible, inconsistent with the surrounding uses and development. First limestone blasting mine was

approved on May 7, 2013 when it was in an active foreclosure lawsuit. I guess you don't check your records. That opened this this whole mess up. The mine expert for Lake Overney Mine said the distance a blast would be felt was twenty three hundred. feet. Blasting started and it was at a much greater distance that People were complaining. So the same mind expert for seven diamonds Com uh changed the distance to four thousand

to five thousand feet. At that hearing he said there is a difference between the two mining operations. He stated a seven diamonds blast would reduce ground vibrations to probably half, if not more. Here's just one comment from somebody. We were rocked today severely. My neighbor has things fall off his wall. I have to go check my swimming pool for cracks. And if my grandfather Grandkids are in it, I have them pull out in case there's something catastrophic happens. How are the citizens surrounding the proposed diamond concrete

plants supposed to be safe? Бісптикали when there's so many misleading and inaccurate information. Will there be an air quality system? To sound an alarm when the air is polluted. There is quali currently no air quality system near this part of Pasco. Will there be unpleasant smells? The fire station is eight miles away. What are they gonna do? Why are they getting wells and um septic tanks. And if

they do, are they gonna be metered? US forty one is a two-lane road. And it was shut down on Thursday, August 10th, due to an incident near US 19, um US 41 bookstore. There are no shortcuts, there are no alternative it no easy alternative routes. Gut concrete is two miles north of the proposed concrete plant. It has CSX Railroad in back of it. Why do we need a second concrete plant? The zoning

should remain as it currently stands. The Pasco County Water System Crossbar Regional Welfare, abutting the proposed concrete plant, needs protection. We need protection from pris businesses that pollute to affect our health, our safety, our properties, the aquifer, and the environment. Uh also This week there was an article from the uh Tampa Bay Times that stated that. More water is gonna be needed. There is

across the street the two open pits, they're massive for the Lego Verde mine and seven seven diamonds. So are they gonna be polluted? But anyway This Times article says that there is going to be uh increased pumping. So this is a very sensitive area. The first mine should have never been approved. It was in an act of foreclosure lawsuit. How y'all missed it, I don't know. Anyway, I am and very opposed to it. And

there was a letter that I s sent to Miss HILER to ask that it be included with the transmittal information. And I would like to include the Tampa Bay Rude

Starkey

to receive and file? Second.

Starkey

District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Hi. District five Chairman Mariano.

MarianoChair

Aye.

Anyone else from the public here to speak? Anyone with that? Jack Jones?

Starkey

And there's no one on WebEx.

MarianoChair

Okay. Can I ask to have a question first? Back to staff.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So Amy, when this came to the Planning Commission I thought the applicant was pretty clear that they were not gonna be getting County water and sewer. The staff report still sounds like they are.

Amy Heiler

The it the staff report is just reflecting the utilities comments. So I could put a statement in the staff report that says even though that this is the comments or the the capacity statement from utilities, they do not anticipate utilizing that.

Mike Carballa

The utility will state that it has capacity. How it said capacity gets to the utility is up to the developer.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

But the applicant made very clear that they have no intention to connect two county water, that they're gonna be on well and septic so My concern is this is somewhat misleading to The board and Department of Commerce. It's it makes makes it sound like they're connecting to could I mean the statement is we will have adequate wastewater treatment services.

But They're you're not requiring them to actually connect to those services. So I'm not sure why this is even in here. Uh uh it just seems to be to it's very misleading to the board and the state to say that there's adequate water and sewer supply When the applicant has no intention of connecting to any of it.

Amy Heiler

I'd have no problem modifying if necessary before it gets to D E D O C

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I mean I guess if it's a if they connect. Here's the Here's the supply that's available, but you should make it very clear the the applicant does not intend to connect to they tend to be on well and septic.

Amy Heiler

Understood. I can add a statement in there, no problem. Mm-hmm.

Yes, I did forget to mention that at the beginning. Um the packet that I sent or put on all of yours, I would like to also receive and file that I sent an email earlier this morning to the clerk's office with letters of opposition. So those are the the documents that you have in front of you.

MarianoChair

Yeah.

Amy Heiler

On

Bradford

a motion.

Weightman

Move receive and file. Second.

Starkey

District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. District five Chairman Mariano.

MarianoChair

Okay, so the applicant?

Barbara Wilhite

Barbara Wellheit for the applicant. Um of the different comments, a lot of it had to do with the mines across the street. Um but I did want to the crossbar Wellfield comment, I did want to make sure that that was addressed. And we have Gary.

We know all about the crossbar wheel field because we permitted um our blind stone mine across the street. So I thought Gary could uh explain that to you.

Starkey

Who has that article? Is it down there?

Barbara Wilhite

Yeah, yes.

Starkey

Can you pass it? I saw that but I didn't get a chance to read that.

MarianoChair

Name and address, sir.

Gary Ubelauer

My name is Gary Ubelauer. I'm a principal engineer with a consulting firm called ECT. Business address is fourteen oh eight Northwest Shore Boulevard in Tampa. And I had been sworn. The comments about the cross crossbar Wellfield. Have to do with the direction of water flow beneath the ground. And The location of the proposed park Uh will not adversely affect operation of the well field or any of the component

wells Um you have maps in your comprehensive plan. that show what is called the cone of depression. um that is An area to be protected. And you'll see that the commerce park is located outside of those areas of concern. And but that Any questions?

OakleyVice Chair

Well only only difference is the aquifer below below ground moves east to west. Which moves that order back the other way. Correct. If there was any issue, but I don't think there would be. Correct. Okay.

Barbara Wilhite

Yeah, I do have my team here if you have any additional questions.

MarianoChair

Any additional questions? Um Barbara, just me ask a question. As far as there's gonna be a lot of traffic coming from one side of forty one to the other.

Barbara Wilhite

Say it again.

MarianoChair

This can be a lot of traffic going from one side of 41 to the other. Or not how many trips we estimate?

Barbara Wilhite

I'd have to ask a teammate help m team member here how much traffic's gonna go from one side to the other. But uh we did that road has been improved all the way through that area for Lager Verdi and for Seven Diamonds, so And I think the l driveways line up. Okay. The driveways line up between our driveway and Lago Verde's driveway. So Did you want somebody else to come up or

MarianoChair

No. I think that at this point we'll we'll look at it later on down our own.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So it will be an act. Yeah if I if I could comment, you don't have the MPD before you if you wanted to impose additional improvements at that intersection to address your concern, that would be the time you would Mm request those additional improvements.

Barbara Wilhite

And we do have a lot of people. As I recall, the M PUD, 'cause we were working on it yesterday, uh, does say that at the time of um preliminary site plan we have to do access management that time. We didn't do it with the M PUD, so we will have to do that with staff and look at that protec specifically.

MarianoChair

I know when Lago Verde came in, um I was not pleased with the changes that happened from the first came into it. So just give me a little sand pit. With a little bit of a lake and then they went down so deep and I know with seven diamonds mine you guys did put a lot of buffering in place. Uh I hope you'll do the same thing with the thing coming up here.

Barbara Wilhite

We did a lot of it moving

MarianoChair

forward.

Barbara Wilhite

And we also did a lot of notifications. We have a c elaborate notification system thanks to Mr. Goldstein up there. Um before we blast. There's a lot of notifications that go out there that go out. So I think all those things have helped. Um

OakleyVice Chair

Yeah.

Barbara Wilhite

Thank you.

Bradford

Go ahead. I'm sorry.

OakleyVice Chair

Mr. Oakley. How far is the driveway from uh

They Property that or the product they're gonna be bringing across, how far is it from the

Barbara Wilhite

We'll have s I know Steve designed all of this, so let's have him tell you.

OakleyVice Chair

It's not right across the street then, is it?

Barbara Wilhite

I'd be going on memory, which isn't that good anymore.

OakleyVice Chair

I think it's actually south. This is a good one. Entrances south of the other.

Henry

Steve Henry Linkson Associates, 5023 Westlaw and I have been sworn. Um so there the access between the Seven Diamonds Mine and and the entrance here is about a thousand feet to the south. One of the things we are going to do to talk to DOT about the potential for having a separate driveway simply for trucks directly across from Seven Diamonds Mines. So that that would so the trucks would come directly across forty one as opposed to turning right and then turning left into it. So that that would be the option that we're going to explore. If

for some reason DOT were to say no, then we would just have to come out and then turn about a thousand feet. So but we have built Turn lanes. Both acceleration and deceleration lanes for Seven Diamonds Mine is a part of the construction of that mine to be able to accommodate that.

OakleyVice Chair

Right. Yeah, because there is a there is a concern about

Henry

Well the the reality is and one of the things is is that this particular is not is actually going to decrease the amount of traffic because the reality is The demand for the product And for the end product is there. So whether the trucks leave here and go to another concrete batch plant ten miles away. Or they go across the street. So it's going to decrease the traffic in the overall area for those trucks. Right. And again, the trucks that will be leaving this facility delivering that product are already on the road. So really from that standpoint,

we're decreasing the trade.

Right. We're decreasing the overall truck traffic on the road by providing this. Yeah.

MarianoChair

And for the people who live to the north there'd be less trips because they're just going south at that point for the most part.

Weightman

Just being a Supporter of septic to sewer conversions, if there's ever an opportunity to to hook in, I'd That'd be great to see. Uh instead of living. Living on a septic septic system forever. I there's never an opportunity or we can move that direction for hook up. Uh That'd be good to hear.

OakleyVice Chair

That that hookup's only for those businesses on that property, right?

Barbara Wilhite

That's right.

I would add the MPD will have a live local condition in it.

MarianoChair

Thank you, ma'am. Um on the on the access, Steve going from From the mine to where I see the light industrial, it's the The picture we're looking at the map just doesn't quite show up, but d is there enough access, do you think, to go from right across?

Henry

Yes. I mean we we've got uh a um if you go directly across and again it would only be to be able to go directly across. So there would not be trucks that are coming either north or south on forty one would not be able to turn in. It would simply be able for the truck That are delivering their product across the street to go directly across. But yes, there are left and right turn lanes at that location.

MarianoChair

No, it'll make it would make sense for DOT to give it to you to have the access to the north as well as Lager Verde having this too.

Henry

Okay. Well we'll talk to D O T again. Worst case if it's not the the the driveways were built to be able to handle the

MarianoChair

Yeah. Well I'm I'm happy to get involved in that conversation to bring that up to prohibition. I move for submittal.

OakleyVice Chair

Second.

Starkey

District One Commissioner Oakley.

OakleyVice Chair

Aye.

Starkey

District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District five Chairman Mariano.

Bradford

Aye.

MarianoChair

I believe that brings us to committee reports.