Zoning Amendment - Substantial Modification (Consent) - Pristine Lake Preserve MPUD - Walker Development Company - A Rezoning Request to Substantially Modify the Pristine Lake Preserve MPUD to Amend the Pristine Lake Preserve MPUD Uses and to Allow for the Development of a 7,500 Square-Foot Office Building
What the county recorded
Staff recommendation
Approval with Conditions
DispositionApproved
Approved the item per Staff’s recommendation.
The source document
The county’s agenda for Planning Commission, Jan 23, 2025
The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.
The county’s minutes for Planning Commission, Jan 23, 2025
The published PDF, as served by the county. This item is one entry in it.
This case, across meetings
PDE-25-7799 in full →PDE-25-7799 was taken up 2 times between Jan 23, 2025 and Feb 25, 2025 — this is appearance 1.
- Jan 23, 2025PlanningAPC8▶Approvedthis item
- Feb 25, 2025BoardP38▶Approved
What was said
Machine transcription of 6m of recording, with speaker names inferred from voice matching. 96% of 25 lines carry a name. It shows what was said, not what was decided, and both the words and the names can be wrong.
We got one more. P C Eight.
Yeah.
Excuse me, I just want some clarification. Um for APC eight. Did you want a presentation? No presentation.
Uh just if you could pull up the uh mapper for this one, that'd be that'd be helpful because we're gonna talk about similar things to what we were just talking about for this last one. So yeah, if we could pull up the mapper for it, that'd be a bull.
It's not over. Fix the traffic problem before we have the problem.
Yeah, if we could back up a little bit. A little bit further and pull it down from the north. There you go. Okay, so I'm not opposed to this project. I assume this is gonna be a daycare center which is needed in this area. My concern is you can see actually if you could click off the parcel. But we could see the road alignment of Aaron.
So click uh on the X there. On the X area, click that search result. So you can see that curve from the north there. I live in a wilderness like preserve which is just to the north of here. I drive this road. Pretty much daily. Um you know, to Parkway. and beyond and it's very much a racetrack. Uh this parcel here is is pretty well landlocked. I actually drove past it today to to see if there was any potential for cross easement to pristine um lake which goes directly
across to parkway and I think will eventually be signalized, which would be an ideal out for this, but there's not because there's stormwater pond there. So as we look at access management for this one, this parcel's landlocked. There's no opportunity for them to go south, no opportunity for them to go any any direction. They could, there is cross-seasement to the north, but there's no plans for that to be developed. So truly the only ingress and egress is directly to air and cutoff. the geometry
of that road, it's it is a absolute racetrack. People come flying around and I've been known to do it myself unfortunately, but people come flying around that corner there and you're gonna put them on top of that ingress and egress. So I assume there's gonna be D cell lane into that or the D cell lane that's existing into pristine is going to be extended further up. But I just wanted to go on the record to share my concerns about the traffic and the the uh air and cutoff there.
Yeah.
I might build help because uh, Commissioner Weightman has raised a similar concern and we've had residents raise concerns about air and cutoff. Um The county does have a talk about vision roadways. This is more than just a vision roadway, but And maybe we could zoom out. I don't know if we have the highway vision map, but The County's long term plan is actually to extend Collier Parkway Straight up straight up to fifty two so that we don't have have all this traffic using during cutoff. Um and I know
that Commissioner Weightman It's a high priority for him. He's got concerns because eventually Ridge Road is going to connect to Conter to Boulevard and Colin Con Boulevard's gonna connect to air cut off. Which will probably put even more traffic on air cut off. And so He has asked our transportation engineering department to look into What needs to happen to get the Collier Parkway extension built from It's existing terminus up to fifty two. We have a lot of the right-of-way already. um from
Connerton and so I think it's a lot of it just a matter of getting it designed, constructed. Um But he has asked our transportation engineering department to look into that extension so that we don't have so much traffic using air and cutoff. That's the long term plan. I do predict that road will get built before colony. Um b just because of the regional traffic to It's likely to carry once Conerton Boulevard once Ridge Road and Conerton Boulevard connect
to it. So um I I If we had a map that shows the highway vision map I could Show it to you better, but that that is the county's long term plan.
I I know what you're talking about, Dave. I've looked at that map pretty extensively, but it's again that this area is kind of south of that Arian is just I'm pointing it out again, I'm not not opposed to the projects. I just wanted to go on the record uh to point that out. It is a very dangerous uh it's gonna be a dangerous intersection there with with traffic coming around that corner. Similar to what John was saying for the for the other project. I mean it's it's a blind corner coming south there and people are at speed, a great speed coming around that corner. So I just wanted to go
on the record to express that concern.
And by the way, I think the approval is actually for an office or a daycare, not necessarily Well I assume it's gonna be daycare, but that that's what I was saying. I guess we could let the applicant speak to that. I don't it but it's for one of the above.
It's regardless of what the use is gonna be. It's the the same concern would would be there because traffic is gonna be on top of that ingress egress before people know it. It's it's gonna it's it's very short distance there, coming around that corner. And that parcel is unfortunately landlocked. I mean there's no direction if Even if there's ultimate development to the north there and there's a cross axis there, I I don't think it really helps that that issue at all. Makes it worse. Farber, would you like to speak?
Again, I'm I'm not objecting to the project.
Barbara Will Hight, [address removed]. We have not done the access management analysis yet and I appreciate you pointing that out. Um and it'll be officer daycare, most likely daycare.
Okay.
Which will be community serving, so Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, Barbara. Anyone here to speak? Against it or Jack or have questions? Single one. Okay, any further discussion on this one? Not all in favor, uh let's make a motion.
Motion to approve.
Second. Phone favors you can define by saying aye. Aye. Those like signed?