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PEG 247768 special exception for duplexes in R4 district

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Denise

Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman Planning Commission members. Denise Hernandez Planning and Development. The One and only item on today's agenda is PEG 247768. It's a special exception in the name of John Ozuki. It's for a special exception for duplexes in an R4 high density residential district. The applicant has requested a continuance to the June 20th, 2024 Planning Commission meeting at 1.30 in Newport Ritchie.

We do have several residents signed up to speak. Um so I'm not sure if the planning if the Planning Commission is is inclined to to grant that continuance, so request from the applicant for continuance. Um then perhaps we can provide the um rules for those who may not be able to speak um on June twentieth because perhaps there are other engagements that they may have. So Okay.

GirardiVice Chair

Very good. So you don't know anybody that wants to speak today. Um You can if you can't make it on what is the date again? June

Denise

twentieth, twenty twenty

GirardiVice Chair

four, one

Denise

thirty New Port Richey here

GirardiVice Chair

in the state.

In other words, you don't get two bites at the apple. So But we understand that some people some of you may not be able to show up on June twentieth. And if this is your only chance to speak, then you can get up and speak to the item.

GreyChair

So uh just as a show of hands, how many people think they might want to speak today?

So Three people, four hands. Okay.

Barbara Wilhite

Mr. Chairman Mariano Heights, sixty three twenty seven Grand Boulevard, New Porichi, uh for the applicant. I requested the continuance and um did so because I could see that we are have interest in what we're doing and I'm sure a lot of people just They may have concerns, but they might also just want to know what we're doing. So I have recommended that our my client um have a neighborhood meeting. I'm hoping that a lot of the people have have signed up so I can reach out to them. Um but that is what my intentions are. I wanted to say that um to you

all. That's my recommendation. That's why we've continued it out sixty days. We're not just asking for 30 days, so that we can reach out uh to the neighborhood. Um and talk with them. So wanted to let you know that and put that on the record. Thank you.

GreyChair

Thank you. Thank you. Mm mm mm.

GirardiVice Chair

And Barbara, is it safe for me to assume that even though we have a few people speaking today that you're gonna hold back rebuttal until the June.

Barbara Wilhite

That's correct.

GreyChair

Okay. Um

For those of you who do want to speak today. Do you want to hear the presentation from the county first?

GirardiVice Chair

It's bold.

Yeah.

Okay. It it's really up to you all if you want to move to continuing now or wait till the the folks speak. I mean it's possible somebody can say something that might be the date of what you continue it to. So I I don't

GreyChair

Yeah.

So a show of hands, who who would like to hear the presentation from the County? Show of hands.

Okay. Mm mm. All right. Is that is Liam gonna do that?

Denise

He is, he's just escorting uh Miss Shram. to speak to the legislative aid. Okay. So he'll be right back.

GirardiVice Chair

While we're waiting on Liam, some of you that raised your hands, I know that you did not get up to be sworn. So could we go in and I swear anybody that wants to speak today needs to stand up and be Sworn in by the clerk. So could if you intend to speak today, please stand up, raise your right hand so you can be sworn in.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give it to the truth cell?

Jonathan Pfister

Yeah.

GreyChair

Okay. You're welcome to come up front here and set so you're handy once it's time your turn to speak. Mm. We're just waiting for our our presenter to come in and and uh give you you the details of the application. Have a seat. He probably didn't realize he had to

Denise

It's okay. I could start it.

GreyChair

We can start then.

Denise

Absolutely.

Again, Denise Hernandez Planning and Development. Today we're going over item PC2, which is PEG 247768, which is a special exception request by John Azuki for duplexes in an R4. High density residential district.

So the future land use classification is Res 6, residential six dwelling units per acre. The applicants are proposing to develop the property with seven duplexes, so there'll be a total of 14 units. Uh single family detached, and uh it's in conformance with the R4 High Density Residential District, which states that special exceptions that duplex units are special exceptions in the R4 High Density Residential District. It's located on the south side of Smoky Drive, approximately 125 feet

west of Blue Pine Circle. This is the site location, which is shows the site within the central market area. It is outside of the urban service or concentration areas and they're not and it's not in the rural area.

This is the outline um showing the entire parcel. Um it just shows that the parcel is generally within the Sugar Creek DRI, uh former DRI because it was just uh fairly recently rescinded area. It is surrounded by several different neighborhoods which include Shadow Run Village. It shows the location of Sugar Creek Boulevard in proximity and State Road 52 and as well as a subdivision by

the name of Woodland Village at Shadow Run.

This is showing you the context map, so the area within a thousand feet of the proposed use. This is the aerial map showing that the access is through Smoky.

Future land use which is res six, six dwelling units per gross acre, the po the potential for that. And the existing zoning, which is R4, and it's surrounded by PUD, a Plan Unit Development District.

It's approximately 7.06 acres. It's undeveloped. Um access to the property is from Smokey Drive, which is a county maintained local road that has fifty feet of right-of-way. and it was part of the Sugar Creek uh development of regional impact which was rescinded in twenty twenty three by the Board of County Commissioners. This is the concept plan as to where the duplex units will be located or proposed to be located on the property, which are in very close proximity to the road. Swan along the northern

portion of the property?

And staff recommends approval with conditions. Again, we're not recommending the approval with conditions. I apologize, I'm used to doing a full presentation. This is uh we're asking that the out that the item be continued to the June 20th, 2024 Planning Commission meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie. And of course, I know that there are some residents that would like to provide public comment today.

GreyChair

All right. Thank you, Denise. Thank you.

GirardiVice Chair

Denise wants to talk to Horium. Um Should do either one of you know how many units They could get on the the property sing if it was if they were detached, in other words In the absence of the special exception, how many Single family detached units would they be able to put on the property?

Denise

I can answer that question. They can get approximately Based on Res 6, because um R4 is higher density than Res 6, so you're capped at the comp plan, they can potentially get 42 units.

I'm not sure what the wetlands so not uh not taking any wetlands into consideration. Purely based on the zoning, forty two units.

Moody

How was the number arrived? Good.

Denise

Res six, six times seven is

Moody

forty two.

There's seven duplex units and one single family. How was that number arrived at?

Denise

Perhaps Liam can answer that question.

GreyChair

Thank you, Denise.

Denise

Thank you.

GreyChair

Lamb.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Please check with Barbara.

Liam Devine

Liam Devine, Planning and Economic Development. Um that would be from Res 6. So again, zoning looks at your overall from their conceptual showing what acreage from their property was actually wetlands, that's how that number came up. So they took the upland acreage from their conceptual.

So they couldn't actually build forty two

So that would they would have to have a wetland delineation survey, which isn't required at this point. So when they actually get a wetland delineation survey to get the exact number of upland acreage, so then they would be able to get that. So since there is a wetland on the property, they wouldn't be able to get to the total 42. Now, if they have a wetland delineation survey and all of a sudden there is no wetland on the property, their their maximum density would be 42. I'm getting it based upon the estimate.

Moody

Correct.

Do

Liam Devine

you have any other questions?

Connected City

Is that is that why one unit ended up being single family of the rest of the duplex? Correct. To to stay at that number.

GreyChair

All right. Thanks,

Connected City

Vivian. Thank you.

GreyChair

Okay, so for those of you who would like to to ask questions or make a statement, please come forward, give your name and address.

Anthony Mistracio

What a time?

Jonathan Pfister

Yeah.

My name is Jonathan Pfister. My wife Anne and I live at uh [address removed]. I'm here today to speak about our concerns regarding the rezoning and development of Project SE 7768. When we first bought our home six years ago, we discovered an ecological oasis in our backyard. which abuts a wetland conservation area. Every day we experience new wildlife adventures as we look into the conservation

area behind our yard. We see a wide variety of songbirds, many stopping to visit during migratory periods. but some of the mainstays are pileated woodpeckers, a family of barred owls, and a family of barred owls. Although piliated woodpeckers are not endangered, They are not commonly seen or heard, so having them present daily is a special treat. Bard owls, however, are a protected species. There are several laws and regulations protecting barred owls and

their habitats, especially in southern states, including Florida. And since barred owl's favorite meals are squirrels and mice, that helps keep the rodent population under control. We also regularly see Florida model ducks and ducklings, which are not migratory ducks, whose protection is the responsibility of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission. Other species that are threatened and and or of special concern that inhabit this conservation area year round

or during migration are swallowtail kites, sandhill cranes, little blue herons, Mariah's marsh wrens, and snowy egrets. When we learn that the proposed development is either on or adjacent to the conservation wetlands, that are part of the area behind our home, we became quite alarmed. When we bought our property, we were immediately informed that the conservation area behind us meant no development. Period. When we added to our

home a Pasco County official had to verify that our small project would not encroach upon the wetlands behind our yard. We are determined to respect and protect our wetlands and our wildlife. Pasco County touts the phrase, open spaces and vibrant places. We trust that the county really means what it says, and then it's not just meaningless rhetoric. If this project goes forward, we will be watching to see if the county stands behind the protections of our threatened wildlife.

I guarantee I'll take it personally if the woodpeckers, owls, deer, egrets, great blue herons, and other species disappear simply to line the pockets of another developer. The conservation area is there for a reason. I'm asking you to not betray our trust in you. Yes, I am concerned about bird beaks and duck bills. I suspect, however, the developer is only concerned about dollar bills. And finally, our area is zoned for single-family residences and

includes considerable green space surrounding the homes. Granting this zoning variance violates the intent of the original zoning and differs only to the d desires of a developer to maximize the return on his investment, at the expense of the entire neighborhood. Thank you.

GreyChair

All right, thank you. Excuse me. Do you have any questions?

It's uh it's customary that we don't clap or Yell or anything like that. So you know, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but Just try to hold it down. Is there any questions for the person that just spoke?

No. All right. Next. Who would like to be next?

Again, your name and address please. Sure.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Vince Kiefer, [address removed]. Um I'm not. I'm right off sm I'm in a cultivated. And I did o what he says exactly. The only thing that I have really concerned about is traffic, among s everything else. Um moved here. For the same reasons. We were kinda like told that it was just gonna be single family homes here. Um

My only other concern is Well like I said, traffic Uh it's already notrocious as it is. being with an H O A

Monday. I resigned. One of the other issues that we've had in that in that same area on that road is at the other end. was another person that you guys okayed. uh that the county okayed to build on there was which was church slash daycare.

Um To this to this day, that was five years ago. It's atrocious. I've I've we as a board we tried to sit there and talk to this gentleman about getting it taken care of. You guys signed or somebody signed off from the county. I don't know if it was a little bit more than a little bit. and he's friends with somebody from the county. He's had issues big time. I just don't want any more garbage on on our streets or in our neighborhood like that. That's my that's my main concern, and I'm

sure 100% of everybody would back me up on this. We don't need this here. Thank you.

Next.

William Nixon

Hello everyone. My name is William Nixon. And I live on [address removed]. Me and my wife. We've been there probably about twelve years. Um, you know what this gentleman said, the wildlife, it's one hundred percent accurate what he's talking about. Same thing with Vince. One of our main concerns, we live on Smoky Drive. That street is just a small two lane street. It's a neighborhood street.

Shadow Lakes is a deed restricting community and it goes into Shadow Ridge wherever that goes wherever they want to build it. Most of the people that live in that area They don't go out of their main thing. The reason why there's dips in the roads or stop sign. They turn out of there And they hit our street to go to work or wherever they're going. It's a straight shot. And the traffic is already it's bad. It's increased tremendously over the years. And we have a lot of kids there, a

lot of wildlife. They speed up and down the road and all that, so That's one of our main concerns. And it just if you could just actually see it and be there, I'm s it just does not belong there. Okay? And we have a really good community. Everybody's great and we're just trying to keep it that way as far as Uh it's balanced. There's just no room for that. It's just not meant to be. There's other places All over Florida, I think something

like that would be better fit. That's about it really.

GreyChair

Okay. Well thank you for coming. Thank you. Appreciate it. Is there anyone else that didn't raise their hand?

Okay. All right. So when we get back together on the twentieth, Anybody who didn't speak today. We'll have an opportunity to speak then. And uh raise your concerns that the meeting will be here in this room. On the twentieth. So we'll be right back here. Hopefully by that time.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Uh uh.

GreyChair

Um Ms. Will High will have had an opportunity to arrange a neighborhood meeting where you can all uh get face to face. with the people that are involved on both sides. And see if it can be anything can be worked out. If not, we're going to make the ultimate decision. Uh on the twentieth. So Uh We appreciate your participation and we appreciate you coming today and being here. And uh I'm sure that uh We'll

work out some amicable solution. So um Anything further from the county, Denise?

Denise

No, Mr.

GreyChair

Chairman Mariano. If not, uh do I hear a motion to continue? moved. Second. We have a motion and a second to continue. Any further discussion on the motion? If not all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign? Notion carries.

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

June

GreyChair

twentieth? June twentieth, yeah.

Denise

June twentieth, one thirty PM, um the same room.

GreyChair

Be there and be square. All right, well thank you very much. Appreciate you coming. So Mr. Chair,