Public comment on proposed 7-Eleven at County Line and Livingston
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The county’s agenda for Planning Commission, Mar 28, 2019
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So uh Before we start the regular meeting, we uh open the meeting for public comment. And I understand we have a few people that want to make some comment on a Items not appearing on our agenda. And they may never appear on our agenda but you do have the opportunity to come up in uh and speak and you will be afforded uh th no more than three minutes each. So are any people that like to come up and speak?
Excuse me, we have to approve the public case.
Yes, go ahead.
The items were published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 15, 2019, or by affidavit of Mell Out and Site 15.
All right, thank you for rem rem reminding me of that. All right, so if you will step forward and state your name and address. and tell us what your
hi good morning my name is Deborah Pritchard. My address is [address removed].
And you've been sworn, right?
Yes, I have. Thank you. I'm here to talk about the proposed 711 number 38410 for the northeast corner of County Line and Livingston. Last Monday the developers had a meeting for the residents in the neighborhood to come voice voice our concerns. We showed up at the meeting with the developers. Basically it was the Monday of Pasco County spring break, which I thought was kind of convenient because a lot of people were out of town. Um talking with the engineer from Bowman Consulting, he had said that if they resubmitted
plans the week prior to that meeting. And we were l at that meeting looking at the old plans. So the actual new plans didn't hit until the 19th and the meeting was on the eighteenth. So basically, in all of our opinion, we took time out of our lives to go to this meeting and it was a waste of time. So the developers really didn't care about our comments or anything else. One of them j um told my husband basically this is a done deal, which I I'm sorry, but I refuse to agree to that. There's so many things that are wrong with this the plans that are on record right
now. First in the warranty deed for the property from when it was sold, it states right in the warranty deed that they cannot have a well on this property. The plans have a well on the property. Also um In the land development code. the actual building structure Has to be so many feet from our property as well as a property from the north when it's a gas station supposed to be 75 feet. This is on the north, it's 58 feet to the property where you actually pump your gas, not the
pad. I'm talking where you pump your gas. It's 58 feet from her property line, and the driveway going in is less than 30 feet to our property. The building is less than 75 feet from our property. So um and then last but not least, in 2006 our county commissioners voted unanimously to keep the RS3 designation on that property. And which basically that 0.27 of usage of land usage that they could have, it couldn't be more than 15,000
something square feet. The plans back in 2006 were 18,000 square feet and they were voted down by our county commissioners. These plans are 27,000 square feet. It is a 7E11 with six gas pumps, two things at each pump. Like six, you know what I'm saying? Um right on not even two acres. Right in the middle of a residential neighborhood. So I just want to voice these concerns because um I know the the permits have not been issued yet. I
know the County notes have to go back to the engineers here in April. So I I just wanna be um one of our concerned citizens voicing concerns. You guys didn't start the timer.
And ma'am, just so you're clear, I believe that item is being reviewed by staff administratively. So the only way the Planning Commission would hear it would be if there was an appeal Of staff's decision to the Planning Commission.
Okay, who's staff?
That would be um Corlin, you want to say who would who's your
That would be uh current planning the development review manager who is acting as Brad Tippin at the moment.
Okay, he's emailed me when I've voiced some of these concerns and they're very vague, and he hasn't told me anything about the RS3 designation and the size of this.
So he's here, he's right there in the audience. audience. He you might want to talk to him after the meeting or email him your concerns and then he
Okay, yeah.
He's been great at giving me information, but it it it's very vague and I don't understand how that RS3 designation has just disappeared.
Okay. Just wanted you to know that there's nothing Planning Commission could do about that
Okay. So we sh shouldn't have even bothered to be able to do that.
I'm not saying you shouldn't bother. I mean you're welcome to come and speak under public comment. I just didn't want you to expect a reaction from them because
they can't do anything about it
unless there's an appeal before them.
Which
you
could do. Okay. Okay.
Which you have the right to appeal if you that's what you wanted to attempt to do.
Yeah, I need to find out about that process. Mr.
Tippen can tell you about that as well.
Okay, perfect. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. So uh you didn't waste your time because your man is right here.
Okay, anyone else or is this the same topic?
You are welcome to talk about it, but it's not necessary because we've already explained. But you're welcome to come talk about it if you'd like.
I would like to.
Sure.
One that caused me very aggravated. So I can bet to someone.
Yeah, we just want we we want you to get it out of your system. Okay.
Thank you. My name is Sherry Robertson. I live at [address removed]. So I own a small mobile home park and this property I know it's um commercial. It's right in the middle of residential. But one of the big problems is that nobody understands it's on a canal. And this big deep water canal goes into the lake. When we have a lot of
rain. That canal will overflow, come under my shed, almost up to the mobile homes. So they are putting in a small retention pod. That small retention pond will have the gas coming off the driveway. the oil coming off the driveway going into their small retention pond. That's going to overflow. Enter the canal. It into the lake. it's going to be
an environmental hazard. We have the mobile homes there. They're not made out of block. We have children there. Somebody pulls up in the parking lot and the kids turn their base way up and it's booming at night. These mobile homes, the walls will just vibrate. We have cars, trucks that are going to be li delivering there coming in and out. You come in on County Line and only out on my road. I'm the first driveway. These cars
cannot go back south. they cannot go back west. So they are either gonna try to turn around on my septic tank or come down our driveway with lights shining. All night long. And it's just not and the noise. All night long. These are all houses round here that's gonna hear this noise all night long. It's just not a place in the middle of residence for something like that. Thank you very much for listening.
Thank you for coming.
Yes sir.
How you doing? My name is Brett Richard, [address removed]. Along the same topic. Basically just one question. Back in 96 the commissioners voted on the same, I guess the same boat. There was no access to that property from County Line Road. So it'd just be on Livingston access in and out. And the developer told me that the Um Pasco um it's right at Hillsborough, there's about maybe eight to ten feet of Hillsborough County Attorney. entranceway.
So there was no access granted then, but now the developer told me Hillsboro County granted access, so Pasco was forced to agree to the access. I wasn't sure maybe you guys would understand that more than I how Pasco was forced to do something because of Hillsborough granting access.
Mr. We don't answer questions under public comment. Okay. I mean you can pose that question to staff.
Okay. I just wanna get it on record.
We don't respond to questions during public comment.
Okay. I just wanted to make it uh get it on record because it was I mean It was voted that way.
So you probably should either mail your question to Mr. Tippen.
Thank you, sir.
Okay, thank you. All
right, thank you.
Thank you for coming.
Uh my name is uh Sydney Andrews. Um I live at [address removed]. Um for 35 years I've lived in the middle of this lake. Um it's referred to as Lake Tampa, Tampa Lake, or Turtle Lake. So anything you want to use. I've seen the the development that's been on this County Line Road. For some reason, both these counties now have decided that they're going to build everything they want to on this road. So it's already need of a four-lane highway already.
It's still two lanes to congestion at that intersection where they want to build this 7-Eleven. is the corner of Livingston and Kyline Road. So it is a mess. In fact it backs up on Collier Parkway, which comes into Kyline Road. It backs up a couple miles during rush hour. Can you imagine these people wanting to go in that gas station? In one way and out the other, or in Livingston and stuff like that. It's a very joke. There's already gas stations just north of there on Livingston from
this intersection. There's already gas stations less than a mile away. There's two of them. There's a racetrack, there's an Exxon. If you go Collier, there's two more up there. There's one leading out of our development in Turtle Lake. So A gas station needed here is not. I mean, the congestion it would create and just the idea of building a gas station so close to a lake. How would you like how would you guys like to be living on a lake and realize they're gonna put a gas station on this lake? This lake is
not spring fed. I've had people come out and look at it before. It's not spring fed. On the Turtle Lake side, the overflows come into the lake to fill up the lake they're just drainage from property that bring in phosphates and fertilizer. So I mean it's it's subject to all this stuff. But the ent the idea of putting a gas station on here which would introduce gasoline into the lake with overflows. We have uh lots of storms and stuff like that. The surface water coming off this thing and dumping
into this lake, it's just I mean who would want this? Who would want this? It's just a joke. They've been trying to do this. I've been there for 35 years, they've been trying to put something on the corner. I don't mind anything else, whatever it's commercially zoned for. I don't mind anything else if it's something like a nursery or something like that. But a gas station near a lake, it's just ludicrous. Come on, think about it, guys. And if you guys live on a lake,
Unfortunately I don't I can't afford to live on a lake.
But uh thank you for your opinion, Joy uh and give us a heads up in case we have to hear this in the future. Yeah.
Okay.
Seeing no one, then uh let's move on to the regular agenda.